Do you enjoy exchanging ideas with people who disagree with you?

[Julie4]

Personally, yes, I like it. Actually it doesn't last very long because my intellectual capacity to debate is limited. but otherwise I like it.

[nightdrot]

First of all, having debated you a number of times, your intellectual capacity is anything BUT limited. It is always a pleasure.

Second, yes, I do enjoy debating people I disagree with. Partly, I work in politics and it just comes with the job description. Partly, I enjoy the challenge and you learn things - either substantively, or depending on the context, just in debate technique.

Suffice to say, one of the reasons why I - a VERY non-computer guy - am on this site is because I enjoy crafting an argument, writing it out and debating it if anyone cares to.

The only caveat I would put on that is a question of manners and etiquette. I enjoy the cut and thrust of debate, but when it degenerates into name calling and epithets, then I just as soon walk away.

Happily, on this site you almost never see bad manners and name calling. Most are reasonable and open to debate - that very much including the good tempered and highly intelligent asker of this question.

[Miristheiss]

It depends if they are easy going, calm, respectful and just rationally talk about their points and let you talk about yours.

These psycho zealots who walk around enraged and want to label everyone the devil who doesn't believe exactly like they do, they can go play in traffic or on the train tracks.

[Anonymous]

My parents said when they were in college you could have these big all-night debates on subjects and everyone disagreed about everything and you could learn a lot and still be friends afterwards, but nowadays if you disagree with anyone all they do is try to shout you down and attack you and "cancel" you. There's no tolerance for critical reasoning or intelligent debate. I wonder how debate teams even survive these days? What do they teach in J school? Always lie to your audience? What do they teach in law school? We're going to teach you all these laws, but none of them matter in real life anymore?

[Anonymous]

That’s the best way to learn lol, flow the dumbest argument out there even if you know you’re wrong. They’ll elaborate for you, you’ll get to see their perspectives and now you’ll have a wider view of what’s going on lol!
Debate, I learn to debate when I was in high school, trying to win arguments and do a bunch of talk but you learn nothing if you wanna be right all the time. Now I learn sitting in the back like a boss silently listening is the boss move. Just flow a trigger here and there.

[RavVid]

Yes but there is a reason why pub political arguments never resolve. That is because logically to have a logical discussion you have to have values (supposition) in common. In general people don't.

Generally I am more interested in understanding your values and questioning you about them. If you want to win pub politics you have to go for their values and question them, not what they reason from those.

You often find contradictions in values. That is an exchange to have.

[Joshydavid25]

It depends on what ideas I'm exchanging or at least the subject.. If it something like entertainment or a less serious subject.. Absolutely.. It's fun seeing the differing opinions on it.. But something like politics or religion... Eeehh.. It'll be more like I'm opened to dialog than enjoyment.. But I might enjoy it if it's something in between as well.. Like maybe History or science..

[ohmyguy]

I love it ... cause I tend to break barriers for people n offer points n perspectives valid enough to consider thinking things though with a wider band with... ie open mind... n i m also not shocked when I realize I'm the duech bag.. narrow minded one... cause I. fall to grasp a concept or two

[sawno]

Absolutely, I had moments where i'd just join political streams of opposing views and began to express my views. Naturally everyone would jump at that with bad assumptions and then eventually they'd see I'm actually really reasonable.

[KostasKouvalis]

Unfortunately, most people don't want to do that anymore. But it's fun to trigger them. Sometimes we can find common ground and stay civil if I'm neutral and they're libertarians. But most liberals don't want to listen to the other side.

[OldBlue]

I’ll debate a libertarian, but never ever a liberal.😂😂

[KostasKouvalis]

@OldBlue I don't know if you saw the friendly between Newsom and De Santis, but that's exactly why I don't debate Liberals either

[OldBlue]

Hmmmmmm
I'm not sure I'm aware of that debate.

During the Ron & Gavin debate; why do you think that Gavin didn't want to address California's theft under a thousand policy? ↗

[bededazzle]

yes. i always learn something. living in a world where everyone agrees with me would be like hell on earth.

[Julie4]

As a French philosopher wrote

"When you only see people who think like you, you run the risk of seeing a lot of imbeciles." 🤣

[bededazzle]

hahaha i haven’t heard this one before, but exactly. one thing i always admired about lincoln was that he basically took his greatest political enemies into his cabinet. he was able to see them as fit for the position and wanted to be challenged by their perspectives

[Julie4]

Yes, it's a sentence that made me laugh out loud. This philosopher came from an aristocratic family. A man with a lot of spirit.

Exactly. I'm not American but I admire Lincoln a lot, who is for me the best president in the history of America.

[bededazzle]

sigh the lost art of discourse. in the us now, a lot of people want to silence our practically censor their opposition. it is as though everyone should care that you are offended lol. though maybe it’s always been like that. who knows.

[Julie4]

What worries me is that even debates between politicians, at least in my country, have become very impoverished. It's as if today's politicians are only looking for the buzz.

[bededazzle]

i understand what you mean :(. it seems a bit like market research though—giving people what they desire. I don't know i can’t think about it too much without getting depressed lol

[findacure4wokeness]

Yes talking to like minded people is good and all but you will be in an echo chamber. Talking to people that disagree with you will expose the scrutiny the your world view and ideas need to hold up to. That is the scientific process.

[Chandelier8]

Yes, as long as their civil. I'm 100% finished with rude, disrespectful people. Blockity-block-block time.

[Chandelier8]

They're*

Is there an edit button on here?

[strateguy632]

in theory, but very rare they EVER say an idea, they just have "vague talking points" that dodge the issue.

[mobiusforniner]

That’s my career. Every day. It’s rewarding and exhausting at the same time. It demands a TON of emotional intelligence.

[IslaTheWitch]

my reality at work...

I'm the only technical manager... rest are business people... :D

[ProbablyClueless]

I do enjoy that, yes. Although, I'm more of a listener than a talker, so I tend to like to hear why the person thinks what they do.

[Andres77]

I like learning and a little debate. If I’m wrong about something then I want to know the truth.

it also depends on HOW they disagree

[DJB72]

As long as it doesn't devolve into personal attacks

[Staximus]

That depends on if the subject is something that can be divided logically and in a civil manner

[Danny_dan92]

So long as it’s civil and there’s no disrespect? Sure. I’ve done it many times

[love_conquers_lust]

Yes. So I can argue them into the ground or learn something new.

[HouseMoat]

If it's a debate, sure. But not if they're just going to yell and scream/repeat themselves over and over (Trump)

[motownplayer2000]

All the time. Different perspectives are always welcome

[LiamJHayden]

Yes. I won't learn much living in an echo chamber.

[msc545]

I do, as long as they don't start name-calling.

[worldscolide]

I do. It's better to know the other side than not.

[KatherineJ]

Sometimes, as long as it’s respectful.

[Gezbelle]

Really depends on the person. How they argue

[eagle1951]

yeah if they are open minded

[ColHathi]

Same.