I think before February. This is historic, that clause of the 14th amendment used against Trump is gonna open up a baaaad precedent.
Florida and Texas are already talking about removing Biden. Good job numbnuts 🤣👍 Next time we get a George Walker Bush we're uber fucked because lawfair is acceptable.
America is a Banana Republic.
Not sure, based on what you wrote, what you means by "when," but frankly - and I write this as a Republican who is not a fan of Mr. Trump - but it already has backfired. The consequences of this in electoral terms are likely going to last.
To start, as a legal matter this ruling will likely not last long. In essence, the Colorado Supreme Court said, "You've not been formally charged with any crime, let alone convicted of said crime, but based on an unclear provision of the Constitution, you will be penalized for not having been charged or convicted of said crime."
Yikes! I've worked in politics for over two decades and memory runneth not to a time when I have seen a sloppier legal ruling. Worse, a ruling that seems nothing but politically motivated. Thus making the courts seem little more than instruments not of justice but political convenience.
Worse still, it seems tailor made to serve former President Trump's own political narrative. That narrative is a populist politics that says that the elites are trying to deny the common man his freedoms and, more specifically, that they are all out to get Mr. Trump.
In political terms, this is dynamite. It is hard to imagine an action - in law or in politics - that seemed to fit the narrative of one side's political agenda. In this case, Mr. Trump's and it will likely not only energize Mr. Trump's voter base, but will no doubt raise the eyebrows of that segment of the population that tends to be indifferent to politics but that is, in general cultural terms, ardent about the assertion of its' rights - especially the right to vote for whom they please.
It is hard to imagine an action that would play more to Mr. Trump's populist politics and absolutely infuriate his base and get them to the polls. With perhaps the only thing mitigating this action being the VERY strong odds that the Supreme Court will likely - and very quickly - overturn the Colorado Supreme Court's ruling. Thus giving the popular anger some time to dissipate and thereby mitigating some of the cultural and political consequences of this ruling.
This - and again, I say this as a Republican who is not a populist nor a fan of Mr. Trump - was perhaps one of the most misguided and slovenly legal rulings in American political and legal history. Mr. Trump was never charged with inciting an insurrection in a court of law, let alone found guilty of same. Moreover, in the one case where he was so charged - his second impeachment - he was found innocent.
Yet from that, the Colorado Supreme Court said that they would deny Mr. Trump his right to appear on the state's ballots. Worse still, not a general election ballot, but a primary election ballot which is actually the jurisdiction of the political party who is sponsoring the primary election.
In other words, the Colorado Supreme Court said, in effect, "You were not charged with a crime, let alone found guilty of said crime with which you were not charged, and so we will ban you from appearing on the ballot of an internal political party matter." It is hard to imagine a sloppier and blatantly partisan hack job from an alleged court of law.
Suffice to say, this already has backfired on the Democratic party and likely will continue to do so. Best not to wave a red flag in front of a bull.
It already has. A growing number accept the fact that we are ruled by an oligarchy. If they manage to railroad Trump’s nomination, only some boomer conservatives and the small number of remaining Christian zionists would even consider voting for Haley. The rest will boycott the election. This would result in the fake opposition RNC being completely swept out of office. The globalist neoliberals would go hog wild and the DNC would own all the blame for it. They would probably “fortify” any future elections, but they will lose the support and efforts of people they need to keep the country functioning. The slow grind into dysfunction, the lackluster recruitment numbers, the fiscal problems, the declining tax base… all these trends would rapidly accelerate until our elites are cleared out of power.
I mean, this literally sets the precedent of "you're guilty because we say so". Due process be damned. When will these idiots come to understand precedent? Are they just too arrogant to grasp that it can be used against them too?
Trump has done some bad stuff, in my opinion. So I disagree.
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Far-left liberals and socialists in this country continue to not understand that stunts like this just make Trump way more popular and far more powerful. It's like they actually WANT him elected President again. They just don't learn, and they're in for a rude awakening come November 2024. I really want to see the next series of polls from Colorado and from around the country immediately following this.
To be far, and for full disclosure, the seven Colorado Supreme Court Justices, all who are Democrats, voted 4-3 to remove Trump from the ballot, not 7-0. I only mention this because it's not fair to criticize all seven justices for the nonsensical decision from just four of them. This will be quickly overturned by the United States Supreme Court.
Red States will retaliate by removing Biden because of the pending possibility of impeachment and trials of him and his family for his (alleged) connections to China etc
Seeing as Republicans are threatening to keep Biden of the ballots in certain states, it could put us in a situation where neither Biden nor Trump is on the ballot in all 50 states, allowing 3rd party candidates get more votes then they normally would.
They are blatantly rigging the election, calling themselves the "democratic" party is a sick joke, much like North Korea calling itself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". I hope Trump wins despite them puts all these corrupt piece of shit democrats in prison.
As soon as Republicans get a chance to use it against them. And when it does, the dems will find ways to downplay it as the big bad scary Republicans is stomping down on the poor little Democrats who don’t deserve to be treated the way they treat others.
Like him or hate him, there's been no trial, there's been no conviction, we claim innocent until proven guilty, and I find it chilling how quickly that can be swept under the rug.
The reason for keeping Trump off the ballot is that a court (at trial) has established that he engaged in an insurrection against the United States, and the 14th amendment says that someone who does that is ineligable absent a supermajority in congress. Biden hasn't done anything like that. What excuse are the morons in Florida and Texas going to try and come up with?
I think this precedent is way bigger than Trump. With all the procedural issues from 2020 that haven’t been addressed and just swept under the rug. I would not be surprised if the election cannot be called and neither candidate gets to 270. The amount of finger pointing and accusations of cheating are going to be off the charts in both directions.
Prob never. I don’t think any independents question or really care. They DONT want Trump back. Biden has a slow economy beating him up, but he should feel the heat. It’s his job.
But Trump will probably be on all ballots and be convicted of multiple crimes by the time Election Day arrives. So I wouldn’t be popping Champaign for orange douche.
His drain the swamp comments are looking pretty bad with each conviction.
This is absolutely banana republic territory and is frankly scary to see occurring in America to any candidate.
It has already backfired. They just handed Trump the win.
It’s already backfiring. Anytime the left attacks him his popularity rises
can he be a write in?
it already has.
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