Do you support the idea to ban trans women from women’s sports?

[Anonymous]

My level is too low to post a link but I recently saw this article online it said Lia Thomas has recently hired a lawyer because World Aquatics has banned trans women who have gone through male puberty from competing in women’s sports. Trans women are male by birth.

If a person has gone through male puberty they likely will have bigger lungs, bigger heart, higher bone density, broader shoulders, bigger hands and longer legs compared to a person who was born female.

Can these things be reversed by taking hormone pills after a person has finished puberty? I’m guessing most likely not.

[NaultD]

We're talking about 8 million 8,000,000 athletes in high school. With 300,000 trans students with half of percentage going into sports so less then 100. How many are team sports vs individual sports?

I think this is a completely non issue that any sport committee can unbiasedly rule for themselves and any level of government should fuck off.

Let the sport committee set the rules. They are the ones most invested in a growing sport. If it's so one sided it's boring as fuck. People drop off and leave. If being trans is a problem they have a way to address the issue non prejudice way. Remember we're talking about less then a thousand people here.

Let's take chess for example. Chess was male dominated for hundreds of years and there has been a push for women to get involved but the barrier of any acceptance was too high. So a women league was created. That help boost women active chess players to 15%. If we get that number 50% 50% male to female the gender shouldn't matter and get some some amazing chess games to see if we get close to a billion active players.

[ShadezMcgee]

I do. Because at the end of the day it doesn't change the biological capabilities of the person who was born the way they were. A dude could get surgery and hormone change to look like a woman, but they will still retain the traits of a male at the biological level, same goes for women.

Plus, if we want to talk about equality with sports, keeping them as men and women only sports levels the playing field between the two genders because the competition is fair. If men were to go against women in sports, there is no contest on who would win.

So when you have women like Riley Gaines protesting trans inclusion in sports, I support her and don't think they should be included. That would also beg the question, did these athletes who transition do it because they truly felt like the opposite sex, or did they do it for a more selfish reason ie a reason to succeed and cheat competition because they couldn't hack it as their original gender or as publicity?

[Anonymous]

The way to look at this is, would a "trans" man ever play on an MLB team? No. Could she? No. Would she ever be allowed to? No. Because she physically cannot, and would get seriously injured. She is not a man, and cannot do what a man does.

So men should not be allowed to play on women's team because they make it impossible for real women to win in their own sport. Men take an easier sport calibrated for women's abilities, and unfairly dominate it with their masculine physical strength.

[Anonymous]

How come the only ones wanting to seem to be ones that failed going against men first? Then “oh I feel like a girl,” and come in and take our medals and trophies cause they have natural advantages from male puberty.

[puurikke]

That's exactly the problem. You'd want trans women to compete with women. That should be their right. But if a person went through male puberty, they would get an unfair advantage over women who didn't go through male puberty.

There is no easy answer. If you choose to let them compete, you are making it harder (and in many cases impossible) for women who went through female puberty to compete or win. If you don't let them compete, you are discriminating against trans women.

The same doesn't really mater for trans males. If they went through female puberty, they can't really compete at the highest levels with male athletes.

To make it even harder. The puberty thing doesn't matter in every sport. There are sports where both sexes have different qualities to bring to the table. In rock climbing for one it's more about agility and length. In equestrian sports it's not an issue. And there are a lot more examples.

So in short: I'm glad I'm not in charge. I'd have to choose between discriminating against either trans women or women.

[Lliam]

I am totally opposed. So-called "trans-women" are men. They shouldn't be allowed to compete in "women" sports. I am also strongly opposed to letting medically altered men compete in "women's" beauty pageants or any other competitions that are strictly female. It's an insult to women and it degrades what it means to be female. It's a travesty.

It also reverses the advancements that women have made since Title IX. And it robs women of scholarships, recognition and income opportunities.

What it means to be female should be celebrated. A man can never be a woman, regardless of cosmetic alterations. And fuck how they "feel".

[IceCreamSandwich]

Lia Thomas, who won 1 event at a national championship? No, I don't think people like her should be banned from sports.

Micheal Phelps, who won 23 Olympic gold medals and has a biological advantage of 2× larger than average lung capacity? No, I don't think people like him should be banned from sports either.

It's pro sports. You want to ban people for your "guessing" that they'll be better than average? That's stupid. "Let the best man win," as the saying goes.

[McLlovin]

I don’t support men playing in women sports. I like our women, however women will never be physically equal to a man. It’s biology. I guarantee you we will continue to hear of disparities of strength and men physically over powering women in the sports. but you will very seldom hear complaints if even ever; of women playing in men sports. Why is that? Lol

[Asker]

Males on average are physically bigger than females in the heart, lungs, legs and hands especially once they have hit or finished puberty.
A trans man (born female) likely doesn’t have a physical advantage against people actually born male playing in sports

[jshm2]

This is the downside to the "equality" bullshit that was all the rage last decade.

By equalizing one group in democratic law, they opened the gates to equalize anything that can get a political foothold.

So pedos, beastialists, necrophiliacs and worse will "have their day" as being "normalised" like trans, gays and others have done.

[Surely]

It seems like for the most part. These Trans women were not competitive in a male sport. So they take their physical advantages to compete against women of lesser physical strength and abilities. My guess is that they wouldn’t do that if they knew that they were not physically superior to women and could best them.
So, I say that we should have a class of whatever you want to call yourself in competition. Or, let’s have a class of competition on child birthing!

[Drewtate]

Absolutely. Imagine Mike tyson started boxing women.

https://youtu.be/mhfdezzjwyI?si=xQujrX4x74cZDjjI

[slatyb]

At top level competition? Generally yes, or women's sports don't mean anything. I'm happy to use whatever name and pronouns a person prefers, and I don't care where they pee.

[Avicenna]

Yeah, women's sports should be limited to biological women. Letting in biological males would make a mockery of Title IX.

[strateguy632]

they are considered women, can't pick and choose when. "women" sports includes women.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Yea come on deep down we all know that shit ain't fair 😂

[Berethor]

Someone born as a male is a male, yea trans should be banned from women's sports.

[OddBeMe]

I support experts in trans issues and experts in sports medicine and the particular sports leagues to get together to figure it out.

I’m pretty sure a compromise can be had.

[Starrrboy]

Anyone with a bird brain and without agendas would obviously say yes.. it's not even debatable lol..

[Pete671]

Yes it's denying the best women from being properly recognised,,,

[Anonymous]

The tiny woke minority have spoken, and the vast majority have no say.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Just look at a trans women standing next to a woman. It isn't right.

[HelpfulWoman]

yes. Trans people should have their own category.

[andreasderjuengere]

And what exactly IS ''women's sports''?

[Anonymous]

Yes absolutely