Is male life worth less than female life?

[Anonymous]

You need men to go and die in all the wars. You need them to be the backbone and be slaves building everything in society for pennies.

Women are allowed in and out of clubs for free while men have to wait/pay

Men aren’t worshipped by women like men worship women. Women are attracted to a small minority of men. Most men are invisible to most women.

No one cares about the suffering of men. We’re supposed to suffer and work our ass off.

Most women view men negatively because of a small minority of men.

It just takes a small amount of men to populate the world so we don’t need all these men.

Yes male life is worth less

No it’s not

[NamerOfStars]

To who? That's the real question.

To biology? No- you need genetic diversity, and you need a lot of men going out to do the grunt work that women can't or won't.

To society? No- the downsides of the absence of strong masculine role models affect not only every culture and society, but across species lines, and even beyond mammals into crocodiles. The current related damaging trend in Western societies is a lack of masculinity, not an overabundance.

To governments? Yes- they need men willing to endure back-breaking labor and run insane risks, because SOMEONE has to, and that won't happen nearly often enough if men start valuing themselves the same way women do.

To delusional self-centered Feminists who've never seen genuine hardship or had to run a real dangerous risk in their lives? Absolutely- it's a core tenet of their philosophy.

To me? No- I'm an actual egalitarian; a philosophy almost everyone pays lip service to, and almost no one actually wants.

To you? Ah, there's the rub. But I can tell you right now that indulgent self-pitying and biological determinism isn't going to win you any sympathy. Remember that women aren't unreasoning beasts controlled entirely by their instincts. They, too, can think, and while an appallingly large number choose not to, that's a choice- and they can always choose to start. But they're not likely to if you demonize them, and building empathy for men's struggles is going to require female participation.

[BoopBoopBeep]

"women and children first"... don't forget that one

[Apple1996]

Not sure how you see getting in clubs for free and being creeped on (worshiped) by men as a good thing? That's the last thing I'd ever think of as postive in my life. Women get those things because we are treated as sexual objects. Men are allowed to be acutal human beings that are respected

[MzAsh]

I believe these ideas are why men are so angry and envious of women.

[Wedsf]

@MzAsh @Apple1996
True. Yet no man wants to be a woman.

[Apple1996]

@Wedsf but they are jealous of our power

[Wedsf]

@Apple1996 privilege.
Even then that privilege only lasts 20-29 years of age and it’s over.

The power women have is the ability to destroy a man’s lying about abuse etc…

[MzAsh]

Yes, indeed Apple. They’re envious of how easy we have it in life in general. We get to just be and we’ve got men living and dying for us.

[Apple1996]

Yeah so easy and privileged... I'm totally not sacrificing my body, health and life right now by growing and birthing life (a male life by the way)

[Iouyes]

@Apple1996 @MzAsh
I feel sorry for your son. Once he realises how competitive the world is as a man he’ll want to jump off a cliff.

Most men in the future are going to become incels and jerking off to virtual reality porn. Because the world is so ridiculously hyper competitive for a man. All women want the most handsome, most successful men with with the most status.

You girls are right being a man sucks unless you’re in the top 1% of looks/money. Like I know handsome tall dudes who can’t seem to find girls.

[Iouyes]

Most men are invisible to most women.
Only 1/17 men in history have procreated because we’ve always been treated like less than human.

But the other guy @Wedss made a good point. I still wouldn’t be a girl.

[Apple1996]

@Iouyes I have 5 sons 😂

[Apple1996]

@Iouyes y'all are incels now because of your attitudes towards women. Learn to treat us better and more of y'all might reproduce

[Iouyes]

@Apple1996 treat you better? It’s the nice guys that don’t reproduce haha.

[Apple1996]

@Iouyes yeah I let my husband reproduce with me 5 times cuz he's a big douchebag. Not cuz he's nice or respectful 😆

[Iouyes]

I hope in the future women have to suffer just as much of men. I hope role reversal happens. You guys deserve it.

You’re all evil deep down. You take great joy in male suffering. In my university class all the guys are all single. I don’t know a single guy that gets chicks. We’re all intelligent and no guy is bad looking or even overweight.
Cause we’re not nice?

[MzAsh]

The problem is so many guys stuck in juvenile mentalities of the superficial are consumed by trying to compete for the wrong girls entirely, girls also consumed by the superficial. there's women like me who don’t expect him to be a 10, or make 6 figures, or be 6ft. We just need him to have his basic shit together and be cooperative and don’t expect us to acts like a maid or his mama… you know, do some of the chores around the house, and actually take care of his kids… and so many guys act like this is actually harder than anything else. It seems they’d just rather watch Andrew Tate and learn how to scam people towards millionaire status. Or die trying. And that’s not at all what us grown women even want.

[Apple1996]

@Iouyes werent women just suffering and were beat/abused for 1000s of years? And men complain about dating as being why they suffer🙄

[Iouyes]

@Apple1996 that’s a very narrow minded way to look at it. Do you think it was fun being a man during the titanic? Building the pyramids? Men have just been dying for no good reason and still are.

Men are slaves. Can you really not see that? Men have built everything. With little in return. Being a man has always been shit, it will always be shit unless you’re in the top 1% where the world is your oyster.

[Apple1996]

@Iouyes men are slaves? Where? cuz all of them get rewarded for the things that they do. Not like they are doing it for free

[Apple1996]

I agree that most men are trying to attract the wrong time of woman. They want baddies that only care about their money. I could care less about my husband's height, looks or wealth. He's a respectful caring man

[Iouyes]

@MzAsh

So I am over 6 foot and may also make 7 figures one day with how I’m set up in life, I’m still dependent on my parents so I’m broke. I’m in great shape.
Looks wise I’m an attractive guy, guys tell me a lot. It’s still not enough.

I’ve just been rejected and never had a girlfriend. I’m also a nice guy, polite etc. family oriented.

@Apple1996 Yet I don’t see girls that want to procreate with me 5 times.

[Iouyes]

I’ve used dating apps as well and I’d match with some pretty girls but of course they would never reply.

Throughout history, women always used to go a tiny minority of men. It still happens now, you can be a standard chick and you can get as many guys as a very hot guy can get girls.

[Iouyes]

@Apple1996 see in my experience being a respectful caring young man means nothing. It only counts when you hit the jackpot in looks

[Iouyes]

My friends always get shocked like how are you struggling. Tbh, I’m not white. If I were white I think it would be a lot easier as women want Caucasian/white features.

[Apple1996]

@Iouyes looks and race don't mean anything either. You need to attract a woman with your personality. If not the relationship isn't gonna work out long term

[Iouyes]

@Apple1996 we’ve discussed all these issues as a group of friends and honestly I think so many men in the future are going to be incels. We’ve had depressing conversations. It’s over.
It’s going to continue to get more competitive with social media. Because women too are only capable of seeing the men that are so handsome, with lambos and a million followers. You can’t be a normal man anymore.

In my country the birth rate is only like 1 per woman. probably cause many women can’t get with the 0.1% of men so they abstain.

[Iouyes]

Like at least men used to slave away for their woman and kids. Now what will the new men be slaving away for?

[MzAsh]

Louyes, you’ll need to at least change your attitude before you’re qualified for a relationship with a woman.

[Avicenna]

You don't want relatively few men fathering all children- there wouldn't be enough genetic diversity

[IslaTheWitch]

women don't create wars... so...

every life is precious

[Pohjolan]

On average societally and biologically male life is or has been less valuable.

However this might change with more gender equality and a more individualistic society.

[Hanrej]

I think that should be obvious given that society has put in place laws to exclusively protect women.

[Anonymous]

This is a biological reality. Women are the key to reproduction. You only need a few men if you've got lots of women. Women are inherently valuable just by existing.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Nah.

[Anonymous]

You need to troll better. This shit is YAWN

[Anonymous]

They use to be, but not anymore.

[laly520]

its not