Did overturning Roe help America?

[Anonymous]

When it first was overturned I was worried. Years later it seemed to help save the culture. Maybe women’s rights are not good for society always?

[Anonymous]

" Maybe women’s rights are not good for society always?"

That's what you really wanted to get out there. Women having there rights taken away isn't going to help you at all. You won't get your pick of whatever girlfriend or wife you want. In the end you still won't be chosen. You'll still be single.

That's what is hilarious about men like you that want women's rights revoked. You think magically that it'll be cavemen times and you'll be able to just grab whatever woman you like and she would be forced to do whatever you want her to. Which will never be a reality for you. It just won't. You'll always be picked last if not single forever. And you know it. Our rights have nothing to do with it.

[Asker]

Not exactly my reasoning. That seems to be an angry and unrealistic way of seeing society. I am not single and it’s not about getting laid or something lol. I think a lot of the issues with homelessness, and addiction, that we see in the US comes from women’s rights with a lack of a safety net. We shouldn’t have the safety net because it’s not exactly free either. I think in reality women increasingly want to live an individual life, without the nuclear family, and I think bringing children into this world with that mindset, while maybe (biological, and evolutionary), it’s not good. I do think women should be able to enter the workforce but a lot of things that are status quo are not good.

[Opinion Owner]

A lot of things are not women's fault at all. Most aren't. I see this "oh women having rights and choices is the downfall" being very much how a toddler would blame things. Plenty of issues (in fact most historically) are because of men. Perhaps men's rights aren't good. Men are the majority of world leaders.

Hamas/ Israel issue? Men
Russia/Ukraine? Men
High inflation? Men

These are the Major world issues and the people in charge? Men.

So can we discuss removing your rights and blaming you for these problems?

Now it doesn't feel so good.

[Asker]

Men’s rights sounds like a victim mentality way of thinking. You might want to get some treatment for your anger problems, I’m not a professional in that field. Most of the social problems in the US with crime, poverty, and addiction, come from the women’s rights movement due to pushback from Vietnam in my opinion. I mean it already happened first year after roe overturned overdoses declined for the first time in over 8 years. It’s sad it has to be this way but without a safety net like you would see in a Scandinavian nation, the certain aspects women’s rights does have a negative social impact in the US at least. Wish it could be different but it’s the way it is.

[Opinion Owner]

Vietnam? You mean the war started by men?

It's not the way it is. The fact you blame everything on women's rights shows bias 100 percent. You actually believe women are the downfall of society. When men still make the majority Of the decisions.

This reeks of redpill/incel nonsense. You just don't like women but don't have the balls to come right out and say it. You are tiptoeing like a coward and you know it. You lack the spine to fully admit it.

[Asker]

No certain aspects of women’s rights are negative. I would say the same about sex work, if men could just pay to legally have sex it would be negative for society. It’s same with abortion, and divorce.

[Asker]

Vietnam kickstarted the greatest women’s rights movement we have ever seen. We look back at the crack epidemic, HIV/AIDS, the 1960s-1990s crime wave, and the opiate epidemic, and think maybe this could have been done differently?

[Opinion Owner]

Sex work is legal in a lot of societies. So there shouldn't be divorce at all? What if a man is abusing his wife? What if a woman is abusing her husband? 🤔

[Asker]

I don’t think prostitution is a net positive sorry. I mean before the divorce changes in the 70s if there was abuse it would be put out there publicly available for anyone see. Abuse would be an appropriate reasoning for divorce. We changed it in the name of women’s rights.

[Asker]

A lot of guys use the divorce laws which were made to help women to cheat, and abandon the children they have.

[Opinion Owner]

So divorce in some instances are ok? But say if 2 people just fall out of love which happens. They should just stay married and sleep In separate rooms and just act like roommates?

[Asker]

It depends on certain factors like if they are children involved. That’s not the point of what I’m talking about. Before Roe v. Wade was overturned in the Dobbs v. Jackson case, I would likely agree with your mindset but 2 years later, and crime has gone down, overdoses down, and the country has become more civilized with more women going to college and getting careers which is great. Not everything is so simple. Life isn’t so black and white.

[Opinion Owner]

Women have been going to university at a larger rate than men since before row v wade was overturned

[Asker]

Which is great. It’s not about getting laid or some immature view about getting women, it’s about helping tackle social problems. Many misguided generations are finally changing in a way I didn’t see before.

[Opinion Owner]

Nobody mentioned getting laid.
There's no movement that is going to keep removing our rights lol. Roe v wade was taken away, yes but now it's a state issue instead. Abortion isn't completely going away. Other rights that women have aren't going away either. There's also not some big ground swell movement calling for less rights for women. Only in incel forums and that's it. All 50 of them total lol.

[Asker]

“Incel” “you’ll be single” are not how I think. Maybe as a teenager, but not how I would think as an adult. I don’t think you get the point. It sounds like you are angry, I’m a sociopath, and don’t really feel emotions like that so it comes across as immature.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not angry but you're spouting about women needing to lose their rights. That's usually only spoken about by incels and the taliban lol.

It only comes across immature to you because someone is disagreeing with all of your points and I'm guessing for you that is bothersome. So calling people who disagree with you words like immature is a way of infantilizing those who disagree with you and counter all of your points. It's a way of saying "oh I'm smarter than you and you're childish if you disagree with me"

There is usually comorbidity with sociopathy and narcissism so this would make sense if you are this put off with others countering your beliefs.

Yes, I'm educated. How about that. An educated woman with a degree in psychology. Perhaps my right to an education should be removed?

[Asker]

I have a history of conduct disorder, and anti social personality disorder so I’m not actually a sociopath, but I don’t think in an emotional way, more of a logical way. I mean you aren’t gonna change my mind after thinking the same thing you did, and it didn’t turn out to be the reality of it, in the case of overturning Roe. I have a Bachelor of Science in Finance from Columbia. I actually said no women should be educated if you re-read my replies.

[Opinion Owner]

Antisocial personality disorder is sociopathy and psychopathy.

So women shouldn't be educated? Ok tells me everything I need to know about you. Lol. Now you're just being edgy. Women shouldn't be educated, should have their rights removed.

I've entertained this trolling long enough. Have a nice life lol.

[ApplePie409]

There are hundreds of companies that will pay for abortions and even drive you to a state that allows it. But the federal government should never been involved in this.

[Anonymous]

States with strict abortion laws are having a harder time attracting and keeping doctors, especially OB-GYNs. Even TX, who has a booming population is seeing fewer med students apply for residencies in TX hospitals. Idaho lost a lot of OB-GYNs. That's just two examples.

Fewer OB-GYNs means more pregnant women not receiving proper care.

[Asker]

Everything has its pros and cons. You are likely correct and I would assume medical students are going to states that allow it also, but I don’t think it would last. I think the country will eventually ban it nationally at some point.

[Opinion Owner]

the majority of voters would oppose that

[Asker]

Definitely not Democratic lol.

[normalice]

It takes about 18 years, when all the unwanted children become peak crime age, before anyone can comment on how it effected our culture. All it has really done so far is give us a moment when religious nuts are quiet, which is nice but temporary. They will come back to ask for more. They always do.

[gorydetails]

States rights over federal government intrusion is always good.

[Asker]

True, it’s a big country with many cultures.

[Asker]

I think banning it made women more responsible also. They might not be happy about it at least at the moment.

[Anonymous]

It changed nothing, loser. Everyone just goes to a different state if they need to. Go back to crying about being single forever.

[Asker]

Lol it changed nothing sure. Try driving out of south Texas to New Mexico, or Colorado, or Kansas. Flying is out of reach for some, not everyone can drive, or access a car. I’m not single but it’s random to talk about my love life, you don’t know me.

[ApplePie409]

It was unconstitutional, that's the whole point. How is this difficult?

[Asker]

@ApplePie409 Yes but my point is that it helped the culture, it helped children, and we had major issues with drugs, families didn’t stick together in the black community, and I do think getting rid of Roe looking back helped some of those issues also.

[ApplePie409]

But nothing really changed.

[Asker]

@ApplePie409 I disagree, American society became better.

[Anonymous]

it only pissed off the sex addicts and the irresponsible morons

[Anonymous]

A little bit. However, there are now more abortions now than before. So we need to work on getting states to ban it as well as teach society the value of human life.

[exitseven]

It probably helped a whole lot of babies.

[In_Trance]

It didn't do jack shit

[Asker]

Besides help the country, American families, and help immigrants.

[In_Trance]

Yea ok

[Pterodon]

It didn’t change anything