Why is it that the government hands out money to everyone to bail them out except for Social Security?

[Daniela1982]

People work all their lives and pay into this for 35 years, only to get maybe $2,000 a month, although the average is more like $1500 a month. So they raise the minimum wage to $20 because $13 an hour was not a living wage. So why are those on Social Security expected to live on $1500 a month, which amounts to a mere $5 per hour? And how many are actually expecting that SS will still be around when they retire?

[sage2021]

Biden is giving illegal aliens our Social Security retirement money so even the baby boomers will be homeless when they take it all.
President Trump on TV said Biden is giving Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.

That money is to be used for people that have worked and put money into it like I did for 30 year's.
It is also reserved for the blind and disabled people. They are always turned down on their first try the told to try again and it takes years where I live.
So our disabled citizens cannot get Social Security benefits but illegal aliens can.
That's a bunch of B. S.
People are going to end up hating illegal aliens if they don't already for the bad things they did to our VETs, using all the social security money and mediCare money, MediCaid money, black and Hispanic jobs they now get putting Hispanics and black people out of work and all the free benefits they get that Americans 🇺🇸 cannot get.

They are going to be very hated and shoved back and get beat up or worse because Americans 🇺🇸 shouldn't let them get away with the things they get away with.

If they are taking jobs from American's then they shouldn't take this lying down. Get out there and protest and fight for what is right.
Screw the illegal aliens! They are here illegally and stealing our job. Can't let it continue, get them out of our country 🇺🇸, take back America 🇺🇸 it's ours not theirs!!

[Daniela1982]

I definitely agree with you. My sister has 4 kids and she doesn't get much help from anyone for getting affordable health insurance. Yet illegals get all their medical care free. WTF?

[BetaBucks]

We literally don't have the money to raise social security to a livable wage. As for minimum wage, the assumption is that working citizens can afford the price increase they cause. But saying that, it's also clear that retirees have to pay those prices too. So it's a double edged sword. Corporate profit percentages are steady over recent decades (COVID caused some major dips and surges though) so there's really no way to not pass costs onto consumers. I think the only practical solution is to run government programs more efficiently and work towards reducing the abuse of those programs. This frees up more money for those in need, so they can survive the inevitable price increases from minimum wages increasing.

[Daniela1982]

@betabucks Seriously? If they only put 1/2 of the money into Social Security that they put into Ukraine, SS would be stable for another 50 years. Congress has "borrowed" money from SS several times and never paid it back. That is OUR money that WE put in. The government should keep their cotton-picking hands off it!

[BetaBucks]

Lol I meant in the social security program. Obviously we can pull money out from other programs, or even raise the SS tax. Just the current state it's in means we can't increase payouts within the budget. But removing abusers and reducing gov waste would provide a decent bump.

And yeah, the gov should never have been able to touch SS. It should have been kept isolated and partially invested. Basically like a group 401k.

[WindAtMyBack]

1) Someone making 2400 a month their entire life would get more than 1500 social security.

2) SS is tax free income unless you cross a certain threshold. So the equivalent pay is higher.

3) SS recipients also get Medicare. It's automatic.

4) SS was never meant to be enough to live a good life. It's supposed to be a supplement.

5) The only way to increase SS payments are through higher taxes.

6) The average SS payment is an average of everyone. That includes people who worked jobs that didn't pay into SS, part time jobs, and people who hardly worked at all. It probably also includes spousal benefits, which are lower than the primary beneficiary.

[Syntosi]

The GOP has been working to take money from social security since forever so its not that much of a surprise that its hard to get money back from it nor the fact that it has not been really expanded upon. Its a miracle it even exists today if you ask me.

[Massageman]

The problem is that burger flippers and table wipers (!) do NOT deserve $15 or $20.00 an hour. SS was a govt patch job after the Depression, but c'mon. They've thrown everything AND the kitchen sink into the pot and anything that breathes can draw from it, even if most of them do NOT deserve one cent because they haven't contributed one cent worth of work and effort!

[Daniela1982]

You mean like illegal immigrants?

[Massageman]

B-I-N-G-O!!!

[RetroReviews]

It's like bizarro world we don't do things that make sense we do the opposite of what we should do. That's what happens when you have crooked politicians in charge unfortunately there are so many

[Likes2drive]

Yeah it sucks but we can’t just rely on that to live on , everyone will tell you to put away money into an IRA or a 401K also to supplement it because there’s no to live on that these days

[exitseven]

Mostly old people are getting Social Security payments and most of them are Trump supporters.

[Daniela1982]

@exitseven You don't think Biden is getting his share in addition to what he gets from China?

[exitseven]

Biden will get a federal pension instead of social security. He never had a real job in his life.

[motownplayer2000]

Government… especially here in the states only bails out big corporations and those who they have personal ties too. The middle class and people don’t see anything. Only exception was COVID. Which probably will never happen again.

[Juxtapose]

Cut military spending by half and then it's all set.

[BetaBucks]

Did the math, and it would come out to a 29.8% increase to the SS budget if all of that half went straight to SS.

That raises the supposed 1,500 average to 1,900+. If we eliminated all military spending, we'd hit the 2,400 mark though. Using 2023 numbers. Probably best to get the other half from somewhere else 😂

[Juxtapose]

@BetaBucks there's plenty to cut elsewhere. Defund the FBI, CIA, NPR, woke institutions, stop giving favors to lobbyists, fuck Wall Street, etc.

[Surely]

You brought up some very valid points. Hopefully when you are eligible to retire. Social security will still be available for you!

[Daniela1982]

Don't count on it.

[Surely]

I am glad that I have collected from my retirement for seven years..
But if WWW 3 starts and turns nuclear. We won’t have to worry about it!

[Daniela1982]

Guess that is also a valid point. ☹

[jamesgoldman]

SS was meant to go bust in Obama's era based on predictions I've read from the 90's

[OhLongJohnsoning]

Because republicans think handouts, are socialism

[Daniela1982]

@ohlongjohnsoningIt's not Republicans who is giving all our money to Ukraine and illegal immigrants. You can thank out current President for that. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[OhLongJohnsoning]

Republicans believe handouts, are socialism