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1 yWell, I’d say that, first of all, it’s a badly mischaracterized issue. I don’t think it’s what the detractors think it is, procedurally. Also, due to the nature of that procedure (basically a tiny vacuum, as I understand it), it’s not something you can really easily do after a certain period. I knew someone who had an abortion at three months, because she didn’t know she was pregnant (her BC made her have very infrequent periods, she just started feeling weird, sore breasts, etc, and decided to take a test, and was shocked that it could have happened). The doctors were like “ok, you’re pregnant, and pretty far along, so if you want an abortion, it’s almost gotta be TODAY.”, as the vacuum would no longer be able to handle a fetus developed past that point. I think there must be more invasive procedures after the first trimester, but that’s the point, that shit almost NEVER happens, and if it does, it’s not just based on “ehhhh, I don’t think I want a kid”, it’s like “the fetus has severe abnormalities” or “the woman is going to die of sepsis if we don’t get this thing out.”
Basically, if you think women are just deciding they’d rather keep Netflix AND Disney+, crunch the numbers, and decide six months in that they just don’t feel like doing it…. take a lap, you’re badly misinformed. These are not things that are happening.
The “whoa, I can’t have a baby NOW” abortions are happening in the first trimester, and a clump of cells get sucked out, and she’s in and out of Planned Parenthood in like 10-15 minutes. This whole idea that fully formed babies are being delivered and killed is PREPOSTEROUS, there’s absolutely no valid evidence of that happening anywhere.
Maybe you don’t like abortion at any point, and that’s your opinion, but all the heinous stories are nonsense meant to shock people, it’s a deliberately dishonest emotional appeal.
All that said…. my opinion is pretty simple: it’s none of my business. There are WAYYYYYYYYYY too many humans alive as it is, like at least two times the amount we reasonably should have, so “preservation and proliferation of humanity” is not any kind of factor to me.
I also can’t help but notice that human society broadly sucks, lmfao, so “the gift of life” should come with a return receipt😂 We’re not doing anybody any favors by making them be alive, particularly with parents who are unable or unwilling to pour themselves into parenting and providing. And before anyone says “adoption”, we’re already struggling to get all the babies adopted, and not for nothing, motherfuckers are out here specifically REQUESTING white babies when they do adopt, so I don’t have much confidence in the adoption alternative. Like “how many kids do YOU plan to adopt?”, is what I want to ask those types.
One thing I’m realizing more and more is a bad policy is “states’ rights.” We can’t be allowing enclaves of primitive attitudes, because not everyone who lives there subscribes to these primitive attitudes, they’re just outnumbered. Not all state governments are “good” or guided by logical, real-life principles, some of these places are governed by Bible thumpers. And you just really can’t have that in the modern world. Government desperately needs to remain secular, and I trust the federal government to adhere to that. 50 states is a lot of places to be pulling the American wagon in different directions. You need nationwide uniformity of social principle and law, that’s SO IMPORTANT.
It’s tough to have the conversation with religious people because it’s so existentially foundational to them, and I want to remain respectful of people’s beliefs, but the fact of the matter is that adherence to religious scripture for ONE religion in multicultural, multi-theist society is extremely limiting to human progress. It’s hard to ask people to believe one thing and socially act differently, I get it, but it’s how it has to go, until the day that a God of some sort physically reveals themselves to all of humanity and proves beyond a reasonable human doubt that religion and this deity are all Real Deal Holyfield. We can’t be doing the “leap of faith” routine with society and law, that has to remain completely separate.
That extends well beyond abortion, but applies to it here for sure. Bottom line: I don’t view it as “murder” in the strictest sense of the word. If we get technical, I guess you can argue that, but in the case of a clump of cells…. I'm not one of these people who believes a soul has been assigned to said clump. So it’s “no harm, no foul” to me. And I just favor the already-established life of an already-alive human over just a potential human, which we can’t truly count on being born until it actually is, there could still be a miscarriage, so a fetus is no sure thing. That’s why we don’t count them in the census, haha
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One more thing to add….
Pro-life people lose NOTHING if some complete stranger gets an abortion. The complete stranger needing or even just wanting an abortion stands to lose a lot more if the pro-life folks get their way. So it’s really a no-brainer to me - 1 y
We ALSO "lose nothing" when a stranger gets murdered. So we can't condemn murder?
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@strateguy632 I understand the logic you’re running with, but I think I just don’t share the common starting point with you about the importance of protecting unborn life. I don’t look at abortion as “murder”, and if it is, by definition, then I still see it as much less significant “murder”, as an unborn child has no established ties to the mortal world yet, no relationships, no experiences, no one relying on them existing. And if we get religious about it, I’d like to think a supposedly omnipotent god could just reclaim an unborn soul and reassign it, if it’s so essential that that soul see worldly existence. If god is perfect, they could and would overcome any and all attempted human interference. That’s not my angle, personally, but that’s my feeling in terms of objections of that nature. Bottom line: I always defer to already-born humans with fully developed lives and interpersonal connections over the unknown and unestablished quantity of a fetus.
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6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. There can be valid reasons for getting an abortion, including mistakes.
Two of my girlfriends had gotten early-term abortions in their early teens because they were young and naive with their first boyfriends. But they learned their lessons and started using the pill for contraception. They also went on to get married and have families later in life.
I have zero problem with chemical abortion that can be done up to 8 weeks after her last period.
I don't even have a problem with abortion up to the end of the first trimester. A fetus doesn't have nerves, a brain or consciousness at that point.
I can't think of a good reason for not doing it by then. With the availability of pregnancy tests, a woman should know that she is pregnant and be able to make a decision within three months.
I do have a problem with later term abortions unless they are for a medical reason.
An abortion is often an agonizing decision, but sometimes it makes the most sense for the mother, her potential child, and others who would be effected.
I have a major problem with serial abortion being used and a form of contraception. That is some callous shit. I wouldn't have a problem with tying the tubes involuntarily of women who are guilty of that. They shouldn't be allowed to procreate.03 Replyno woman is using serial abortion dw
examples doesn't mean they’re real, i really doubt that
1 yA woman and a man need to sit down and talk about this they made this baby together and I think they need to really need to think rationally too I personally don’t agree on abortions because you made a baby and then you want to k*ll it by aborting it
216 Replywhat if they can't afford it? or what if someone was raped? what if it was a kid?
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If they can’t afford it they should have worn condoms and double protection
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I understand where you are coming from with rape but also with the help of family I think they’d be fine with the baby and as for kids they need sex education so they know what they are doing
condoms can break
okay so ur gonna traumatise and embarrass a little girl more than she already is? most families dont support it and js leave them on the streets, women should have a choice
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I didn’t say I was going to trumatise and embarrass the girl! And yes family do help out because I’ve seen it before also yes condoms can break that’s why there should be double birth control she should be on birth control and the guy too
okay so every girl should be on birth control, which ruins a girls mental state and body, understood. by forcing a little girl by going through birth and having her look at her baby as proof of her rape she will be traumatised
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I never said EVERY girl have to be on birth control those who DONT want a child should be!
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But what if it’s too late to abort? I bet you never thought of that
i doubt a teenage girl wants kids, define too late pls
thought u ate with the ”i bet you never thought of that”💀
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Too late when she discovers it’s too far in pregnancy to get rid of the baby
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And what do you mean with “thought you ate with”
yeah but how far is the pregnancy when its too late for an abortion, its different from place to place. nvm ab that ur too old to get it sry
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I’m not too old I’m 27 😂😂
okay👍
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u 1 yNot something I would do personally, but I believe every woman should have the right to make that choice for themselves.
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That is about which food, but not when abortion has a victim.
Can a mom beat her daughter? Would you say choice! "Every woman should have the right to make that choice for themselves."? - 1 y
That's a dumb analogy.
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Kuz you can't refute it.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 both my analogy n abortion has victims. Should abortion IN WEEK 31 be legal in the US? ↗ - 1 y
I can refute it, it's just stupid and I choose not to.
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u 1 yIt is the legalized murder of unborn children.
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1 yIt's a state right.
I personally think it's okay in the early stages and for rape and any medical complications to the mother or baby. I'm not an expert on those things nor do I read about them, I live in a state where it's very legal so idc and I don't know why women in my state care.
I don't think it's okay to promote it as a way to push safe sex as your alternative for not being intelligent. Largely that's what people are against, nobody should have 10 abortions, that's fucking disgusting.
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As even the pro abortion wrote a "fetus is just a clump of cells" limiting that justified until more complex than a clump of cells.
for example when 3 distinct layers! nobodys having 10 abortions
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@chocolatetwopointo
Ah the 19 year old who thinks she knows everything. Hang out in poor minority neighborhoods then get back to me on your statement lmao, show me a woman whos had 10 abortions, id love to see ur sources
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www.guttmacher.org/.../repeat-abortion-repeat-unintended-pregnancy-repeated-and-misguided-government-policies
This is a good resource. It's not proof of a person having 10 abortions but it details how the same people use the service multiple times for casual sex that gets them pregnant. That's what I'm against, you don't have a right to that operation.
It's a disgusting degenerate procedure that was created to make sure minorities die off quicker. and u believe that bs?💀 anyway, some of the times it can be for important reasons, like being raped, not being able to afford a kid, like do u want a kid to grow up in a home (if they even have one) where they’ll be neglected?
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@chocolatetwopointo
I originally said it's absolutely necessary for certain circumstances. Look at my original comment. It's still not a right. You never have a right to a medical procedure. I don't have a right to open heart surgery do I?
It's a power delegated to the States, not some grey law caught up in a federal Court case. It was not magically made illegal, each state has it's own laws that effect you. That's how state governments and state elections are supposed to work in the USA. well bc u dont need a heart surgery and having it when u dont need it can cause health risks
m 1 yThat apart from some adjustments we have it set up fairly well, 2 doctors must okay it. Your own doctor refers you to an abortion service, this is where you go through the assessment, work out how many weeks, ultrasounds, if it’s under 10 weeks or under 24 weeks. Also counselling is provided as it has a huge emotional impact on a girl and also possibly her partner.
Yes I’m pro choice, it’s a freedom that some 3rd world and overly religious ones do not allow or tightly restrict.
I think Iran has better abortion controls than some states in the us.
The fact that in 2024 people say God made the decisions that it’s wrong, would be laughable if it was not such a serious topic, one that it appears religious guys in the US are making for women.00 Reply
1 yGives women too much power over a man's child. Takes 2 to make a baby. Decision should be 110% mutual. They both made the decision to fuck.
Men shouldn't only have an opinion when in today's world, women don't need to only give men their opinion anymore.19 Replywhy can't the man js find someone who wants to have his kid?
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What kind of woman today actually wants to have a kid? When they cn change their mind on a whim and get an abortion? Thankfully it depends on what state you're in before a woman can go behind her husband's back and abort his child without his opinion. I thought women didn't like it when they only had an opinion. Why should men have to put up with it?
ik a lot of women who want kids, and do you want unloved children in this world who will probably be neglected, abused by their mothers bc they were forced to have a kid by their husband?
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Why is it immediately thought of as the kid being unloved by the mother? The father who actually wanted the kid would love the kid. Why is it only what the mother wants?
the father can love the kid and handle it alone but the kid will grow up without a mother or a mother hating them, its traumatic for a kid, and most parents can't make up for that
because its her body? she's the one who has to ruin her body for something she doesn't even want, the man can easily find a woman who wants his kid
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Than she shouldn't be having sex in the first place. Wait until marriage when you women find someone you won't regret it with. It's not the man's fault you fell into his bed.
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Abortion isn't birth control. It doesn't make you women look good at all.
nobody uses abortion as birth control, u do realise she could’ve been raped too right? and are u saying she shouldn't have sex js bc she doesn't want kids?
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1 yDepends which week so the question is stupid.
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1 yLegal safe and rare are my goals.
First person who mentions God or religion in context of abortion is going to get the equivalent of a digital punch to the throat36 Reply- 1 y
God!
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You think people don't have the right to disagree with you, subject to threats?
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No I'm tired of ignorant people showcasing their ignorance as if it's just as comparable as my knowledge.
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This issue is not about people being ignorant of facts which are within your ken. Disagreements on this issue stem from a fundamental difference oon choices. Abortion rights advocates do not want to lose the convenience of abortion because the prospect of having and raising an unwanted child are monumental. Pro life people believe that the convenience of the mother is not more important than the life of her child. All of these arguments about 'when does life begin' are false arguments that are intended to distract us from the real issues. And people who are pro life are not all ignorant fundamentalists.
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Agree to disagree. ✌🏻☮️
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Okay.
1 yNo, it should be avoided
Consider the same as gift of God and just proceed and bring the life to earth, may be that life changes everything
Kindly read story of Cristiano Ronaldo story, her mother wanted to abort the kid and doctor convinced her to go ahead for the kid, now he is one if the finest football players00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)1 yif abortion was only limited only to the limited number of rare exceptions as they keep advertising then it wouldn't be an issue except they don't

they literally celebrate this shit feminists love to keep the reasoning for abortion a secret, just like their reasoning for divorce as well as hiding any paternity fraud
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Anonymous(36-45)1 yIt's pretty horrific any way you cut it. In terms of legality, I'd say it probably makes sense for it to be legal up until some point and then illegal after some point. That line probably should be drawn somewhere between 13 weeks and 26 weeks (3 and 6 months). In the absence of a federal law passed by Congress, it should be determined by the states (in the US context).
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1 yIn my opinion it shouldn’t be considered a constitutional right to have abortions. I think abortions are okay in situations of rape, incest, or danger to the mother’s life. Also I hate when people say, “My body, my choice!” No it’s another body in your body. If abortion isn’t murder then why when a pregnant mother is murdered by someone, it’s considered a double homicide.
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1 yIt SHOULDN'T be abolished but it also shouldn't be abused! Like, a girl loves to fuck a lot and doesn't care if she gets knocked up because she can always abort. Maybe put a limit on how many you can get.
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1 yI thought I answered this question; I think my response was deleted for some reason (probably too detailed). :D
00 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It is the greatest crime of our age, I am not telling women that babies are punishment for having sex, but a human life is a human life. If you can't raise a child get the embryo transferred or give the kid to an orphanage.
00 Reply11.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. 100% pro abortion for myself, always have been. For everyone else 100% pro choice without restrictions.
00 ReplyIt's a satanic ritual by women that take pleasure in murdering children.
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1 yBetween a woman and her doctor, though she SHOULD discuss it with her partner and the baby's father.
01 Replywhy’s that?
1 yTeenage and forced sex abortion is ok but normally other are not
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yIt should be the nuclear option, the last resort, an unthinkable choice. If you're not mature enough for pregnancy than you're not mature enough for sex.
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1 yIt's her body and her choice. No one besides her as the right to makes choices about her body.
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I guess you dont know the fetus has DIFFERENT chromosomes and D. N. A. than her so not ma body so not her choice.
1 yAbortion is murder.
420 Replyhow exactly?
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Baby -> Snip snip -> dead baby.
wdym?
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It’s really as simple as that
how is it murder
so you care more about a fetus than an actual human being?
no its not?
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What is an unborn baby? a cat? a mouse? If it's not human, what species do you think it is?
a fetus..
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fetus
The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.
In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo.
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Saying a fetus is not a human because it's a fetus is like saying a child isn't human because he's a "child", or saying a Mexican isn't a human because he's a "Mexican". y'all always care ab it until its born and u won't give a single shits ab it then
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And you just like killing anyone who is inconvenient for you. There are at least 60 forms of birth control that don't involve killing a baby.
and if someone has been raped? what happens then?
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If you need to satisfy your unquenchable bloodlust after a rape, how about using it on the evil rapist rather than the innocent baby?
There's be a LOT less rape if you did. i agree we should kill rapists, but rapists rarely ever get sentanced to jail and if they do its usually for a short time and some are falsely accused.
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Yeah I'm also for heavy sentences for false accusations.
yet, there's already a lot of kids in adoption centres
Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yNecessary patch for systemic issues in our societies.
00 Reply487 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If it’s not my child being aborted then I shouldn’t have an opinion on it
02 Replyso you’d want a say in what the woman carrying the baby y'all made should do with her body?
1 yIt’s murder and a cowardly thing to do
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yShould be legal up to the first 24 weeks then only legal for life of the mother or a seriously ill or deformed fetus.
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But fetus has nerve cells and feels PAIN before that. Same as my hand jumps back from a hot mug! Even before brain feels. Fetus has that before 24 weeks.
Opinion Owner1 y@strateguy632 Let's ban guns then. If we ban guns, gun crime goes away just like banning abortion makes abortion go away
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What a coincidence.
See my answer to Since laws dont stop criminals, whats the point of having ANY laws? ↗
It's murder, I'd never do it
02 Replyokay so what if u were having a misscarrige and not allowed to abort? or ur going to die if u dont get an abortion?
1 yReally wrong almost all the time
216 Replywhys that
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Because it's killing if thats ok why can't I kill people who shouldn't be alive
bc a fetus is not a living thing yet
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That's what a fetus means, I thought you meant the egg not an actual baby. What's wrong with you?
what?
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What I said you can't kill babies that's just wrong
yeah not birthed babies, fetuses who nobody wants u can abort
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I don't agree a fetus is a baby, the first few days of pregnancy I only could agree with and that's just small maybe, people never fail to deliver on my feelings that humanity isn't worth saving at all its closer to devil worshiping when there's a debate on is it ok to kill a fetus that is a baby just slightly less formed
ok u do u ig
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I dont or couldn't kill babys thanks
one question, if u got a girl pregnant and she wanted an abortion, what would u do?
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You probably don't want to know but death isn't on the table as a choice so ye lets celebrate 🥂
so youd force a girl to give birth?
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Why would she want me to kill my kid? 😭
bc she doesn't want a kid? or she js doesn't want a kid with u
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She should not have been a slut then who has sex with someone they don't like so much they want to kill the kid 😣
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u 1 yI am very strongly opposed to abortion.
00 Reply 4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Not my body, not my decision.
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1 yAgainst
04 Replywhys that
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@chocolatetwopointo, killing of innocent soul
so you care more for a clump of cells thats inside a woman, instead of the woman carrying the baby, and when the baby is born and the mom can't afford it, what happens then?
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@chocolatetwopointo, it is on your society, where women have multiple husbands , when woman gives birth to a child nobody owns him, so the woman suffered for his breeding ,
ungodly
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