Based on your personal experience, who is more intolerant of opposing views?

[Anonymous]

As an independent, it's been my experience that people on the left are far less tolerant of opposing views then people on the right. It's not that I share a lot views with people on the right (I don't as I have a mix of views from all over the political spectrum), it just that, in my experience, they tend to be more tolerant and don't get as hateful and toxic as the left does when you have a view they don't agree with. I had friends over the years from the left and right, and can honestly I have lost more friends that were leftist over disagreements then I have friends that were rightist.

Democrats/Liberals

Republicans/Conservatives

[msmissydc]

I accidentally voted wrong. Missread the question thats on me, at least I realised it.

I am not neutral. I am far left. Probably incomprehensible left for American standards. When it comes german politics its nearly proven, that the left is more tolarable and only the right is intolarable. Atm the right wing extremists are oposing anyone. Even the arch-conservatives are their sworn enemies. Here is the important part, you dont have to agree with opposing views. You dont even have to let them have their say without countering their argument. But let it be a political talk. I can easily do that with conservatives.

I dont tolerate being insulted, I dont tolerate hatefull behavior. Its not an oppinion! I dont tolerate you if its only you, making enemies with me outside of the actual political debate. In my experience that always comes from the right-wing. (The last part is obviously biased, but the first part is not)

When it comes to American politics: If you actually think independent is the neutral position in this please read what the two candidates stand for and what they are trying to achieve. You are NOT actually neutral if you think they are equally bad and dangerous. One is trying to end your democracy and imprison everyone that disagrees with him (at least when what they are saying is not ALL a lie), the other might not agree with your views but lets you have them. HAving a far right and a center left and than look for the middleground won't leave you at the center!!!

In my experience there is rarely an actual neutral center person. They are either not informed and easily sway in one direction after actually reading and informing themselves or they aleady have a side and try to disqguise as the center which they are not. Last option they have opinions from both sides but didn't rank them, what they value most. In that case they think they are neutral but often are not.

[Asker]

The same party who claims to protect democracy, rigged their last 3 primaries and filed lawsuits in multiple states to keep 3rd party candidates off the ballot. I've read what the two candidates stands for, actions speak louder than words. So I respectfully disagree about an Independent not being neutral.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpGCQa8LpQ

[msmissydc]

I am not claiming thats a good thing I am claiming thats a problem with the system. The irony is, that Trump atm is literally doing the same thing and claiming its a good thing. It was all within the system. So claiming one party is doing it wrong while the other is making the exact same stuff but you only saying one made an error, thats not neutral as I feared. The rest of that video sounds like conspiracy theories.

[Asker]

Both are actually wrong, and I can make the argument Democrats are more wrong, they are the one's responsible for Trump. Yes, Democrats are responsible for Trump, they are the one's who worked behind the scenes with various media outlets to help Trump win the Republican nomination through the pied Piper campaign thinking he'd be a cake walk win. While the pied Piper campaign was taking place the DNC actively stole the primary from Sanders who in poll after poll fared better against Trump than Hillary. So if the DNC, had given Sanders a fair shot, he would have won the Nomination to go on to beat Trump. I have no regrets voting Libertarian, Democrats made this Trump mess, and did nothing to correct it except guarantee a Trump victory by handing the nomination to Harris is a weak candidate and a terrible campaigner. I warned when Biden dropped out, handing Harris the nomination would be a huge mistake that would result in a Trump victory, all's got me cheap attacks and smears from the left. Harris was a weak candidate and terrible campaigner in 2020 resulting in her dropping before any primary votes were cast. Your free to respectfully disagree agree, unlike some users, I won't delete your comments because I'm an adult who doesn't get offended by disagreements. Have a nice day.

[msmissydc]

Not sure I would call it pied piper campaign. They did call out extremist views in the opposing party. Something they thought, voters would never vote for. They just didn't think republicans are as extremist as these comments and support it. They played a poker game thinking republicans aren't that inhumane and far right and lost their gamble.
I am not sure if nominating harris is good or bad. Biden was not a good choice. At least not strategically. He is a good politician but his public image makes him seem weak. I dont know about harris. She did good so far and her campaign looks promising and at least believable. Putting a prosecuter against a felon is a smart choice.
I agree that sanders would have been the better choice but he is old as well (which was a valid call against Biden) and if you have a more moderate candidate you have a bigger chance catching the undecided actual center voters. Americans are super quick calling everything thats a bit left, comunism. Bernie would be a much easier target for that. Not that he is a communist. Far from it those that call people communist in america, dont know anything about commumism.
Also democrats couldnt have forseen that trump would build a cult and openly talk about dictatorship while still getting supported. They just didn't think americans are that stupid.

[Asker]

I would, because the campaign specifically mentions pies piper candidates. The pied Piper campaign wasn't to call out extremist, it was to elevate certain candidates in the Republican primary the DNC viewed were the easiest to beat. True, Sanders would have been a target, but he was well respected and had a lot of support during the primary from independents and a bit of Republicans. Part of the reason Hillary lost in 2016 is she was more disliked than Trump, and another part of the reason Hillary lost, is she lost rust belt states because she championed bad trade deals that shipped jobs over seas, and Trump campaigned against them and went after Hillary aggressively for supporting the. Sanders, he opposed the trade deals Hillary championed, so Trump's attacks on trade deals would have been null and void.

[Asker]

I don't, but many independents views Trump's felonies as being politically motivated, so they are not a factor when voting, so while a prosecutor vs a felon is a smart move winning over Democrats, doesn't do much winning over independents. Watching the media paints a picture that Harris is doing good, but if you look at the raw data, she's not fairing to well which is what I predict when Biden dropped out. Part of the reason Harris isn't doing as well as Biden did in 2020, is she has an off-putting personality (same thing contributed to Hillary losing) and her campaign is focused on why you shouldn't vote Trump instead why you should vote for Harris. In a perfect world, DNC would have held legit primaries allowing voters to pick a strong candidate to go against Trump, but they would rather lose with a hand picked establishment candidate than win with non-establishment candidate. And yes Democrats could have predicted MAGA, as it's an evolution of the tea party movement that started during Obama's term in office. I use to be a Democrat, and left the party in 2020 after Sanders was cheated out of the nomination second time ann got fed up with hate from fellow Democrats for not being 100% in agreement with everything the DNC establishment does and supports.

[DrPepper12]

The problem is our binary choice constitutional system. It makes the Constitution a suicide pack where you only have A and B. If we had a parliamentary system that would accommodate more diverse viewpoints as well as coalition governments Then we would have a proper center. In any other sane nation, the Democrats would be viewed as center right moderates.

[msmissydc]

Liberals ARE the center right party where I live.

[Asker]

Here in the US liberals are center left.

[msmissydc]

From your options. They are not in reality, worldwide. They are still center right but you have nothing more left winged.

[Anonymous]

Depends what you mean by "intolerant."

If you mean "fights for their own beliefs (which are different from mine)" then I'd say usually, yes, leftists are more intolerant.

If you mean "tries to outlaw/punish having different beliefs from theirs" then obviously righters have us beat in that kind of intolerance.

[Anonymous]

Leftist ideologically are about control when you want to control things you have to be very specific about what to do which means you also need to be rather intolerant about other ideas and behaviors to support your particular force position.


So no the modern left can't get away from intolerance it is at the core of whom they are, a people who don't trust other people to think, speak, or act for themselfs.

[DrPepper12]

It's not control. It's communitarian. That's where your type goes wrong. It's a shared sacrifice for the common good. Provision of publicly goods that we can't (or shouldn't).

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 I'm not sure how you can fail to observe that communitarian is only a justification for control when it has anything to do with the Force that is goverment.

[DrPepper12]

You do not stand alone outside society. Accept that and you'll see more clearly

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 I don't need to talk to you if i don't live with you. I don't need to live with you in most all of America. You see that and you will see more clearly. There is no "society" in the middle of nowhere.

[DrPepper12]

Then enjoy your solitude. Fight the government that steals your money through taxation. Forgo any public good (impossible).

I do suggest that you somehow procure without using currency Thoreau's "Walden" and "On Civil Disobedience". I'm sure you'll enjoy them...

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 This is the desire top be free of a great many Americans which is why the common goverment needs to be minimalist doing only those few services which we actually do share like de fence.
There should be no federal domestic programs at all, as these are really only of value to people who live in areas they are accessible to. Mostly a wealth transfer scheme to cities.

[DrPepper12]

No. But I'm tired tonite...

[DrPepper12]

The problem is two fold.

The left has COMPLETE wackos who I'm not sure if they can process ANYTHING outside themselves.

Meanwhile the right has COMPLETE wackos who I'm not sure if they can process ANYTHING outside themselves and they're armed to the teeth.

Anyway that's my.02¢...

[Anonymous]

The left for sure. If you disagree with someone on the right, most of the time they'll just label you and idiot or ill informed and move on. When you disagree with someone on the left, they become extremely hateful and start throwing around and labels and accusations. You can agree with someone on the left on most things, but they will always be hateful over the things you don't agree on. This hateful attitude is why I no longer identify as a democrat.

[strateguy632]

Ever heard of "political correct"? Libtards use facebook authority to bully everyone else what we are allowed to say to our facebook friends! So that shows intolerance.

Also look at the intolerance to christian!

[Syntosi]

Oh, that is easy. Its the right wing. If you have a different opinion then you probably share most of your ideology with the right wing which protects you from their intolerance. In fact I am pretty sure I read a study on this just a few weeks ago about how hostile to outside views the right wing in USA actually is. Its more of a cult which rejects reality than anything if you ask me.

[Asker]

I'm not right wing, I'm an independent with views from all over the political spectrum. This throwing baseless accusations at every one you disagree with is part of the intolerance. Pretty strange a Independent who recently had a civil debate recently with someone on the right about universal healthcare would be considered right wing.

[Syntosi]

Never said you were right wing, I said you shared in some of their ideologies or are otherwise close enough that they do not lash out at you.

It is kind of obvious that you will not face backlash from people who you nominally agree with.

[Asker]

My bad for the mistakes. That's not always true, during the 2016 primary, as a Sanders supporter, I received a lot of negativity from Clinton supporters, while with people on the right, we were able to respectfully disagree without being mean to each other.

[Syntosi]

Not that surprising either. Plenty of right wing people supported Sanders as well because he is anti establishment and has a massive political divide with the rest of the Democrats.

You might have noticed the position that RFK Jr has today in the Republican party which is strange considering he ran as a Democrat initially. Democrats has a much broader range of ideologies than Republicans with some of the extreme outliers such as Sanders having bigger overlaps with Republicans than with other Democrats.

[purplepoppy]

The problem is most views from the right seem to be based on hate which is never acceptable. The left can be a little loopy even irritating but that's better than being hateful.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Democrats actively engage in censorship of opposing views.