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I don't believe in vigilantism, but I definitely believe in self defense. Most trouble can be avoided if you are paying attention, and that's always the best way to go. But when trouble can't be avoided, you need to be prepared to defend yourself at the same level as the threat against you.
You will need to be able to defend your actions, so you need to know and understand the laws in your state. But first you need to survive, and your survival is NOT assured. Plenty of innocent people are killed every year, and many others are maimed and suffer for the rest of their lives. My first job is not to be one of those. The health of my attacker (s) is WAY down my list of concerns as long as they continue to be a threat.
It would depend on the situation.
I'll happily hand out instant justice if someone tries to harm someone I care about. Under those circumstances I wouldn't think twice about sending them to the ultimate Judgement.
Finding out later is different. It's more morally grey for me. My best friend has a teenage daughter who was abused aged 3 just before we met. This country being the juristic nation it is, despite it being 13 years ago, them knowing exactly who, what, how, when and why he did it the case is still "pending". I love the girl like she's my own kid, so her mum refuses to tell me who did it. I'm not sure what I'd do to him now, but I promise it'd be slow...
Is it really any different than, say the US or Israel, taking matters into their own hands and giving their attackers a taste of their own medicine? The difference being, with them it's do as I say, not as I do. When a private citizen does some vigilante justice they get in trouble. I'm sure everyone has seen examples of this. Maybe Mangione was doing vigilante justice. We all know how expensive Health Care is and how fast you can run up a $million dollar tab, or that they won't cover something or refuse coverage. So, unfortunately, sometimes it is not worth it, even when the justice system lets you down. Because you are the one who will wind up in prison. 😝
When the system fail, absolutely
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How do you define "justice", the problem with taking "justice" in your own hands is we don't agree on what it is.
So even if you were not a nutcase pushing unjust and poorly defined ideas like "social justice" we still wouldn't agree on who is guilty or innocent. Indeed we still don't given how courts are corrupted which is why some people want to do it themselfs.
Ultimately you only have sympathy for such up to the point of your own self-defense in clear cut cases where there is little time to make better choices.
Well, considering the low mental level of most humans, I'd say taking justice into own hands to be a bad idea in spite of the official justice instances being very defficient, because they won't even be able to imagine consequences in different fields. In case of doubt, don't !
I have lost faith in our justice system so I do handle things my own way. The guy who tried breaking into neighborhood cars a couple years ago met me and my neighborhood watch committee. He had to visit the hospital when we got done with him. Haven't seen him in our neighborhood ever again
You and your neighborhood watch committee should be ashamed of themselves. What you did was illegal and you may have gotten the wrong guy and even if you did get the right person putting somebody in the hospital for breaking into cars seems really excessive. What if you had killed him? Would that have been worth it to you? Please think about that before you answer.
@msc545 I thought about it and we'd do it all over again. When the cops came, the one cop said " neighborhood justice I get it". We showed him a video of the guy in one of the cars and after the guy went to the hospital he went to jail. We knew we had the right guy and we taught him a lesson that he would never forget
Yes, once in a while when this happens, it works as a waking up the masses about the wrong happening in courts. Sometimes powerful people forms an elite class which made laws that do more harm than good. It reminds the courts, elected politicians, police, and lawyers to not overstep their boundaries and enter in our homes.
Well, sometimes it's necessary to make your own hands dirty. What matters is to remain cold, calculated, prepared and ruthless, emotions and excitation lead to errors.
Luigi didn't really have an escape plan and didn't use distance that is best concealing. This short euphoria after eliminating the CEO will cost him a lot.
Yes I do believe it is needed at times! I also wish there was a federal law which would require the death penalty for any person (absolutely without any question the person) who commits any crime of any kind where he has a gun ON him at the time of the crime. These have no doubt so trial should be quick and sentence carried out within 30 days of conviction.
to save or stop an assault absolutly. as revenge id almost never ends well even with faults the justice system is best. turn over evidence and testify. but there is a problem that results in vigulantyism
government unable or refusing to do there constutitional duty. and thats very often the result of politicions
Emotionally speaking? I've felt temptations, rarely, but it wasn't Justice, it was payback.
Philosophically speaking? It would be inherently unfair because Justice is an external entity, for a sound reason.
That's exactly what I'm gonna have to do 💫💢✨🫧〽️this not anybody else's reality to be messing with, not smoke forbidden pot yet, not my time to be in don't belong won't be able to handle me churches not sacred neither is much of anything else, they were told lies forgotten about ways of the ancients
Absolutely not, although a lot of people seem to believe in it these days. I think it leads to a breakdown in the rule of law and it leads to a lot of disorder and it potentially leads to a lot of mistakes when you decide with the wrong person is guilty of something and you punish them for something they didn't do. At least our legal system attempts to make proper determinations regarding guilt.
Yes. It's one of the things that makes me not a very good Christian. I have a hard time turning the other cheek. Because I rationalize it as this. If the lord works in mysterious ways, maybe I'm the person that that person just shouldn't have f***ed with. God's modern plague on pharaoh. God's holy avenger.😆
No. It would ultimately be a transaction. so you are effectively fairly trading a death of a love one is the the same value for death of a scumbag.
When it is self defense of self or family, yes. You need to respond in seconds. Then cops may arrive in minutes, if at all. And when you whack the perp, ya gotta know what your next plan is. My Oldsmobile has a 2-Tony trunk.
I believe in letting the justice system do what it does. But if it fails, I would have no problem implementing my own justice.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya... you killed my father... prepare to die."
No. We the people can't be the judge, jury, and executioner.. This is wrong. You become the bad guy if you do. This isn't the work of a hero. It's the opposite.
Very very much though everything else is waste of time. DO IT THE RIGHT WAY COWBOY WAY NO MATTER WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE. THE COURT SYSTEM IS A BIG JOKE WASTED TIME. It just lands up working out for the evil
Yeah, sometimes you can't rely on the justice system to make sure your loved ones and you or even your community is safe..
It’s certainly a popular idea in this day and age, look how many people back up Luigi Mangione.
When Justice comes in one's hand it Transforms into Vengeance!..
Absolutely!!! Everytim!! I'll take it into my and 11 other citizens hands and vote my mind
Vigilantiasm is not justice.
Deep down I do in certain cases but it's not the christian way.
Law officials are suppose to make justice.
Yes , I believe that some law enforcement agencies are useless , if someone comes after my family , they won’t have to worry about the cops.
No, I don't believe in lynching. Personal revenge, maybe.
Sometimes and when I did or do I tell nobody not a fucking soul.
It should be a exception enforcing the rule.
There is a time and place for extrajudicial action.
Its too bad that they would’ve made you out to be the bad guy nowadays if you shot an armed robber who broke into your house
@WhiteBoyChill Very true.
courts made rulings on those. I’d be careful of vigilante stuff
One way or the other you’re gonna end up in prison girl
Only if justice can't or won't be administered by the proper channels
I Leave That in God's. xxoo
Absolutely fucking yes.
I would not rule it out.
If the legal shit doesn't work why not
100%. Up to a point.
Depends on what's needing to be dealt with
Luigi Mangione sure did !!!
I guess I could depends on the situation.
It all depends on what they did
No that what laws are for
The Queen's Justice maybe
Sometimes
Yeah
No, I do not
i wonder
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