People who know that Trump wants to close Education Department, do you think it’s good idea?

[Kelly6]

[purplepoppy]

Surely there needs to be a body that oversees the quality of education for all. Once you let places go there own way you risk letting nutters into schools to push their own agenda. It wouldn't be hard to imagine science being dropped and replaced with more religious indoctrination in some states.

[DrPepper12]

Some local areas teach "the war of northern aggression"?

No geography requirement?

Abstinence only health classes?

Canonical literature & theatre banned?

Creationism?

No foreign language requirements?

This is reality in too many places NOW you MAGA chucklefucks! Listen to @purplepoppy.

[monorprise]

@DrPepper12 What is wrong with people like you and @purplepoppy thinking you not only know better than everyone else but must FORCE your views on everyone everywhere?

That is a serous question.
What makes you think this bigoted and imperial attitude is ok?

What makes you just assume that if others held your same imperial and bigoted additive they wouldn't use these tools to do exactly that to you?

The Federal Constitution is a peacefully cooperation contract that you can either respect or try to use as a weapon against your enemeis.

Those people trying to get rid of the entirely unauthorized Department of education want Peace, otherwise they would be using the same power to FORCE your children in your state to learn just that.

You are indeed ignorant, not only of the Terms of that Constitution which grants the common goverment NO POWER WHATSOEVER over education. But the nature of that so called "Civil War" being a war of independence not a "civil war" over control of a common goverment at all.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I'd be upset if they did that to science.

[Shiprex]

@monorprise CHILDREN protected and provided for in a civilised society have the right to an education. That parents seem to think THEY have the right to decide what "education" means is where parents need to sit back and use their political power to TELL government to educate those children who have rights in way's that are acceptable. Parents even have the opportunity to HOMESCHOOL their children which HAS to be legitimate and resilient enough to match standards and expectations of competence in society. NOT TO BE BRAINWASHED into extremist mythologies which are not conducive to civil society. If parents want to indoctrinate children into whatever cult or mythology and "train" them to behave in antisocial and harmful ways towards others then those parents are not fit to be parents and should be disallowed access to children in a way that pedophiles are prevented from accessing vulnerable children.

[monorprise]

@Shiprex Children are the property of the parents who actually went thou the effort to have and make them NOT the "community". We demonstrate this fact in allowing parents to take thier children with them wherever they go including immigration to other nations.

How they choose to raise their children is not your buiness nor really subject to your control. You might demand the children follow certant rules just as you do of the parents to live among you. But you don't get to tell them what to think.

Indeed if you can't be troubled to even bother to have enough of your own to sustain your culture they would be wise to iqnore and reject any advice you might have on how to think. Clearly your ideas are not working for you, why would they agree to jump off the same cliff you did?

[DrPepper12]

@monorprise the "customer" in purchasing education for its children is the community at large if which parents are just one of many stakeholders.

[monorprise]

@DrPepper12 The fact that Goverment rather than parents thou tuition, or kids thou loans finance education is a major reason for its corruption and failure.

The community at best has a real interest in the kid knowing the division of power under the constitutional agreement. This is something that can be taught at anytime and indeed should if you want to have immigrants.
When it comes to the skills for living and without a doupt
The values of living are the business of the parents. Such values really does need to be from the parents as such values must necessarily be sustainable enough that they lead to the children themself likewise doing so themself in passing it on. Otherwise such values are as dangerously worthless as they are doomed.

[Apple1996]

Nope terrible idea

[Kelly6]

@Apple1996
I agree with you,
But why do people in US hate education I don't know

[Apple1996]

The rich and powerful want the regular people to stay dumb and uneducated

[Kelly6]

@Apple1996
That is very true, but sad part is that many people are agreeing with them.

[Juxtapose]

The federal government provides nothing the states can't do themselves. A lot of American states dwarf many countries, it doesn't make sense for a cumbersome centralized bureaucracy to dictate everything.

[Juxtapose]

Texas is literally bigger than Germany but you don't see Germany begging the EU to dictate how they educate their people.

[Juxtapose]

As another user said:

"we won two world wars, built nationwide road and utility infrastructure, and become the globe's economic superpower without a Dep't of Education."

[Apple1996]

@Juxtapose i move states so often so for my kids that would be fucking hell to deal with trying to keep up with what each states offers for education. My oldest son is in 4th grade and has been to 5 different schools and also homeschooled one year lol

[Kelly6]

@Juxtapose But you feel happy for federal government to send money to other countries? in 2024 US sent minimum of $200 Billion in two wars.

If you agree for federal to shut down some agencies to save money, then they should lower your tax rates too?

[Juxtapose]

@Apple1996 well that's just how it is. The federal government is not fit for the job, clearly.

@Kelly6 You're attributing happiness towards something I have never expressed happiness towards. Why?

I don't like foreign aid. It is money laundering.

[Apple1996]

@Juxtapose they are fit for the job 😂 my kids who have disabilities need the things they offer and need those services to be available across all states

[Apple1996]

@Juxtapose i don't understand how this is even a argument. If people don't like the way it's ran then homeschool the kid. Don't make all others suffer

[beefcakebradybatson]

Anti-intellectualism has always undergirded America's history, and since Ronnie Ray-Guns has become the predominant opinion, as "the elites,"i. e., learned folk who because of their education, are usually more progressive than the average Joe and Jane, are scorned in favour of entrepreneurs, many lacking college education, let alone a degree, many of whom are rightist, even, as the tech bros have shown, even far rightist as they line up behind Trump to finance his final dismantling of U. S. Democracy.

[Juxtapose]

There's no reason this can't go to the states and they can't do it.

[msc545]

@Juxtapose Bullshit.

[msc545]

Homeschooling is like no school at all.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@Apple1996
Here is a bright idea. Don't keep moving around so much and it won't be as much of a problem if it is at all.

[Apple1996]

@MysteriousDarkness um litterally not mine or my husband's choice that we move so often

[MysteriousDarkness]

@Apple1996
Is someone in the military?

[Apple1996]

@MysteriousDarkness yess my hubby

[OlderAndWiser]

The states have all the expertise needed to run their own education systems. Federal involvement has just provided an opportunity for the left to indoctrinate young people with political ideologies that are quite divorced from educational goals. WHen this issue comes to the forefront, you will see that all of the opposition will come from the left.

[DrPepper12]

What curriculum items in particular do they force on the states?

[Sirenboobzilla]

Education isn't a left-right issue. Your argument could be made with Republicans wanting more religion in public schools and no CRT. Issue with leaving it to individual states is that each state will push their own agenda in to their curriculums. If you grow up and study in Florida, you'll be unfairly challenged if you, as an adult, move to a state in a whole other region like New York or Illinois.

[DrPepper12]

I've had students from Florida here in NY. 💯 Right. They were studying "local history" a Confederate propaganda course while in NY multiple years of world history are required. Don't even get me started on the sex ed / health classes from Florida.

[exitseven]

Yes, I wonder why that is?

[OlderAndWiser]

I have no desire to engage in a meaningless argument. That is not as concession that you are right. It is simply an acknowledgement that i am not going to waste my time.

[blackeagle007]

@Sirenboobzilla all people do is make it a political battle

[SixFootSexy]

NOTICE how education has been going DOWNHILL since the creation of the department of education. ANYONE who's had kids get through the public system in the US KNOWS that there is NO discipline in the classrooms and everything is focused on liberal progressive DEI nauseating ********. END the insanity. END the department of education and focus on STEM. Bureaucrats do NOTHING to benefit students. Simply have mandatory standardized exams to WEED OUT MORONS and then spend the money on the kids who want to learn and have the capacity to learn, the rest can be sent to clean toilets.

I intentionally got into an argument with a woman once about the Dep't of Education. She insisted that we need it. I pointed out to her that we won two world wars, built nationwide road and utility infrastructure, and become the globe's economic superpower without a Dep't of Education. She still insisted we need it. I then told her to point at one person who would NOT have finished high school if the Dep't of Education didn't exist (a logical fallacy, I know - but I wanted to pin her down). Her response?

"Educating kids is not the purpose of the Dep't of Education."

I said, "Yeah, that's pretty obvious with the way education is in the crapper."

College is even worse in many ways

[loveslongnails]

This post is a lot of chest pounding that says very little, but it does make a case for your "lack of education" because you sound like the propaganda machine the USA wanted to you be. The Department of Education began operation in 1980 under the Reagan regime, and I do mean regime. He was responsible for much of the bullshit in the corporate tax structure and the downfall of higher education when he flipped the cost structure from states to individuals.

Along with Rockefeller's well known statement about " I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers", Reaganomics made higher education a thing for the wealthiest among us. The General Education Board, established in 1902, played a significant role in standardizing education across the nation, promoting a curriculum that emphasized conformity and rote memorization over creativity and critical thinking. This was easily done since Rockefeller and Carnegie controlled all the publications in public schools.

So you could argue that the D. O. E. has accomplished EXACTLY what it was created to do - create a nation of non-thinkers incapable of critical analytics, which is what this current regime took advantage of to win the election. The Dept of Ed "could and should" be important to the USA, but only if it cared about teaching people the truth.

PS > The US entering WWII helped turn the tide, but they didn't "win the war nor even make the greatest sacrifice in terms of troops. Like it or not, that distinction goes to our then ally, the Soviet Union. They suffered 11.4 MILLION casualties, while the USA had 446,000. Without the Soviet sacrifice, and yes, without US help, we'd all be speaking German right now.

[SixFootSexy]

@loveslongnails
Agree with many of your points. I recommend reading Weapons Of Mass Instruction - John Taylor Gatto

I disagree with your take on the Soviets. They fought a bloody battle, no doubt, but Russian tactics have always been the same. Let 'General Frost' treat your enemies brutally.
It doesn't matter how many lives you throw away in a war, it's about how effective you are at taking/destroying or holding/denying strategic goals. Americans always were good at grandstanding, about being the greatest generation, best country in the world. For a while, it was true.
There's no way the Nazis would've held all the territory they conquered unless the populous was in alignment with their ideology.

[loveslongnails]

" There's no way the Nazis would've held all the territory they conquered unless the populous was in alignment with their ideology."

That's an interesting take on why they lost, but I see no data to support it WHATSOEVER!

[SixFootSexy]

@loveslongnails Why do you think the Roman empire fell apart?

[loveslongnails]

The topic was Nazi Germany, not the Roman Empire, and I'm not biting on it anyway. LOL Have a good day! :)

[abc3643]

No, of course not. And there's good reason for the Department of Education.

First, various ignorant people here who are too young don't remember that there's been a "Department of Education" for a long time... even before it was a standalone department. 50 years ago, we had "HEW" which was the "Department of Health, Education, and Welfare". During the Carter Administration, "HEW" was split into the Department of Education ("ED") and the Department of Health and Human Services ("HHS"). (Also, created during that time, was the creation of the Department of Energy, but that's another story.)

Conservatives don't want ED because they don't want their kids "infected" with ideas they disagree with... like evolution instead of creationism. However, Congress, in the act of protecting America, has an interest in maintaining that the population is sufficiently educated. This is why there have been national education standards for generations.

Without ED, two things would happen: 1) racism and other anti-social behaviors (like rebellion) will rise and 2) ignorance will proliferate in those states with poor education standards; those states will suffer accordingly. Furthermore, other states would then also be affected since the damage from the ignorance cannot be isolated.

[ohsheeT]

No it's not a good idea it's not even close look at your pan in China and Sweden and Germany they work their kids their teach their kids knowledge real knowledge and our American government wants our kids to fail they don't want them smart because then we might figure out what they're doing when we already know it.

And out of everybody in politics I would think Trump would want our kids to be smart...

And I think Trump really should have thought about this one a little bit deeper

I'm sure all his kids have gotten a good education and his youngest son I'm sure Trump is going to do anything and everything he possibly can to be good this time because I will guarantee his son will run for president because Trump only has one term.

One of these days we all just have to stand up and say hey enough is enough

He has the opportunity of a lifetime twice to become the greatest president we've ever have had. I'm curious if he does it or if he gets to the very end and blows it RV does really good so his kid can run it right after him become the youngest we'll see I guess but with the kids know they need to know math they need to know everything they're not even disciplined.
With work ethics sorry I know that was a question lol. The most of your questions just get me thinking deep lol

[CheeseMonster]

No. It will make education even more uneven and lower quality overall, and it is kids and their future that will suffer for it.

Education is like the police: the system is broken, but there is clearly a hole that it's trying to fill. You can't just "shut down" or "defund" it, you need to actually have a plan of what you're going to do instead. It's bad to have a nail in your arm, but it's much worse to take it out before even looking for a bandage to control the bleeding.

[WindAtMyBack]

I would conditionally support closing the Department of Education. I say conditionally for a few reasons. I don't know exactly what they do, but I know that the large majority of education is at the state and local level. I also know that the feds only provide a token amount of funding for K-12 education. They use the token funding so that politicians can say they are doing something, and also so the feds can have a certain amount of control over education.

I think the feds should stay the hell out of education. Keep it at the state and local level where it belongs. We don't need to be giving more power to politicians in far off Washington.

Education is highly politicized. If it's going to be politicized, at least keep it as local as possible so it's within reach, not in some far off land with politicians who barely remember where they came from,

[Kelly6]

@WindAtMyBack they provide billions to giant universities like Harvard

[WindAtMyBack]

If you are referring to the Department of Education, I'm pretty sure that's not true.

[Kelly6]

@WindAtMyBack
That was my guess, because I don’t know much about US government cause I live in Spain

[WindAtMyBack]

A little over half of their money goes to grants and loans to individual students, not to universities. The other half goes to help fund schools in low income school districts, and special education programs (which means kids with physical or mental disabilities).

Federal grants to research universities mostly come from whatever agency wants a particular research done. For example medical research might come from one of the health agencies. As far as I know, it comes directly from the agency and does not funnel through the Department of Education.

Education in the US is almost entirely at the state and local level. That's especially true for Kindergarten through high school level. In my school district funding is split roughly evenly between state and local sources. The state sets minimum graduation requirement. Local school can add to that. I'm guessing that they can't get too crazy in additional graduation requirements.

If the Department of Education is abolished that does not mean all the programs will be abolished. Potentially none of the programs would be abolished.

[ChicoFromThe305]

I'm just gonna copy and paste what I said in the other



Some quotes of what trump said for the people that only read titles of articles

“I say it all the time, I’m dying to get back to do this. We will ultimately eliminate the federal Department of Education,” he said in September during a rally in Wisconsin.

“We will drain the government education swamp and stop the abuse of your taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s youth with all sorts of things that you don’t want to have our youth hearing,” Trump said.

Personally I think this is a big issue in the education system, I would hope this also includes things that are messed up like not feeding someone's child cause they don't pay for lunch, I think if they are gonna be responsible for children they should feed them for the time they are responsible of them for.

[AviatorTom]

The Department of Education (DoE) was started by Jimmy Carter almost 50 years ago, breaking it off from the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (HEW). Its goal is to coordinate educate among the various states. Over the years, that goal has been abandoned and instead it has gotten into feeding children, funding Title I teaching supplies, supporting woke teaching and other things that are not part of its charter.

Since its original charter is not being accomplished, and states and local areas have the best idea of teaching for its local area, why do we need the federal government involved? It's time for DoE to go.

Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars go to funding my local school district, than to the federal government for funding activities that I don't believe in at other school districts.

[DrPepper12]

Woke teaching. Do tell.

Feeding kids? Wwjd?

Some local areas teach "the war of northern aggression" is that what you support?

Abstinence only health classes?

Canonical literature & theatre banned?

Creationism?

No foreign language requirements?

Those are the kids that will struggle. Good job!

[overlord337645]

trump does not have the legal power to do so and if he defies congress he can get arrested or impeached for it leading to legal trouble and a loss of support might i add this would not be good for him as he is currently weakening the justice department and getting rid of all his lawyers

[sage2021]

Most people were satisfied with our school systems before Biden became president. That's when everything went wacky. 🤪

Why don't we wait and see if the dust settles without Critical Race Theory and WOKENESS and the drag queens leave our schools alone and maybe things will be back to normal.

If Trump wants to close down the Department of Education it's probably because the Democrats ruined it otherwise why didn't he want to close it down the first time he was President?

[Anonymous]

Yes, I personally worked at a State department of education and seen how Federal 'department of education' works.

The 'Federal Department of Education' just takes our money and uses it to compel our Actually Elected State Department of Education has to abandon the elected will of the people in favor of doing whatever the unelected politicians in distant D. C. want to to do instead.

We instead we play a game of maintain a education system that attempts to do it all while in more and more cases failing to educated our particularity children effectively at all.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Great idea. I destroy the Dumification Department with this question...

In the last 20 years, what has the education department achieved?

The kids are getting dumber and they can barely read and write, don't even know what gender they are, and like my generation, they still can't do their own taxes.

[Friendlybro79]

Pay attention to people that say everything Trump does is good just repeat like parrots what they hear him say. Education is bad because it teaches critical thinking and the GOP does not want you to be able to understand how to question what they say so you can believe anything they say or do. Funny enough is the avg Maga head is walking in and opening the door for the deconstruction of our constitution and society.

[Juxtapose]

As another user said..

"we won two world wars, built nationwide road and utility infrastructure, and become the globe's economic superpower without a Dep't of Education."

[Friendlybro79]

@Juxtapose That argument proves nothing. By that logic, we won two world wars, built infrastructure, and became an economic superpower without the internet, modern medicine, or even interstate highways, so should we get rid of those too? Just because something didn’t exist at one point in history doesn’t mean it has no value.

And let’s be real, public education did exist before the Department of Education. The soldiers, engineers, and scientists who made those achievements possible weren’t self-taught in a vacuum. Federal programs like the GI Bill (1944) and the National Defense Education Act (1958) were massive investments in education that directly fueled America’s dominance. The DOE was created to improve and coordinate those efforts, not to "invent" education.

If you want to argue against the DOE, or say it needs to be better, fine, but at least come up with something better than “it wasn’t around in 1945.” That’s like saying we should get rid of indoor plumbing because the Roman Empire managed without it.

[exitseven]

Every state has it's own Dept of Education which really makes the majority of policies. The federal DOE gives out grants money but also pushes for DEI initiatives , pornography in school libraries and other abominations. It is just a big waste of money.

[DrPepper12]

Dei & porn? Oh do tell

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 Unless you live under a rock or else just get your news from CNN. Oh, never mind.

[SarahP080106]

It is a great idea. Our Global Educational Rank has dropped since it was createc

[DrPepper12]

Pisa tests are useless for comparison in unitary vs balkanized education systems.

[molonski2]

Be a good idea to completely start again with a vastly changed system that allows for far better overall outcomes , shouldn't make so much difference where you go to school.

[DrPepper12]

You support nationalized k-12 funding instead of over reliance on inequitable property taxes?

[Pudsmucker]

Department of education was started by President Reagan. He started it because it was a thing to get the students taught and brought into the competition with other countries. No the department of education does not be involved with our children anymore. We have stupid idiots that try to teach their ideology and they do not stick with a fixed curriculum. It's best to be left up to the States for The education of our children.

[Intheclouds00]

Close the system created and put in place by the Rothschild's and Rockefellers to train worker slaves to be just smart enough to do shit , broken enough to acquiesce to authority and too dumb and divided to think they have any real power? Oh no, let's keep that train a rollin. I mean, the world is doing so well after 150 years of that shit don't you think?

[Juxtapose]

We literally became the world's economic superpower, won two world wars and did many other cool things without the department of education. Thinking we need a clunky, cumbersome centralized bureaucracy to manage education is ridiculous.

You may as well say Germany needs the EU to dictate how it educates its citizens.

[DrPepper12]

And the 70% of their job is collegiate level stuff. Relax. Do you think a balkanized education system is better?

[Magda1992]

Scary even though I don’t live in The US. But deal with lot of Americans. Their trying to erase people minds like in men in black.

[Friendlybro79]

@magda1992 Not all Americans. I know we look crazy cause of the news but more than 50% (barely but still) didn't vote for Trump. That said the right wing politicians are trying to rewrite history. I promise it's not all of us and we're trying to get ourselves out of this. We need to win the mid terms first and take it from there.

[Magda1992]

@Friendlybro79 I think people are self-destructive.

[Friendlybro79]

@magda1992 I can't disagree completely. I also think there are good people out there and we need to continue to stand up for what's right. Once good people give up it's over.

[Jennz6]

@magda1992
I agree with you

[Tamera952]

WTF do you think? …duhhh…. what a great idea? Yea, right. Make people even MORE stupid than the fucking idiots that voted for this moron.

[worldscolide]

I'm all for it. Look up what Michelle Obama did to school lunches, essentially starving students. Literally expecting high-school football players to survive on the same meal a first grader would get.

Fuck the DOE.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Then America will become EVEN DUMBER !!! SWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

[Anonymous]

Yes, 100%. The federal government should NOT be dictating to states how they educate their children. That should be up to the citizens of the states and the officials they elect to represent them.

Notice how the people who disagree are always on the left? That's because the left has controlled the DOE for many years. They have abused that power, and they don't want to give it up.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes. Never understood why even have one in the 1st place?

Let all states take care of their own education.

[DrPepper12]

Some red states local districts teach "the war of northern aggression".

Abstinence only health classes?

Canonical literature & theatre banned?

Creationism?

No foreign language requirements?

You sure you want complete local control?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yep. Nothing you mentioned is important to education

[DrPepper12]

How then sir, do you define "education"?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Math, literature, science, nation's history, world history, political science, social studies, geography, general health, economics.

Those are core subjects that should be taught K1-12

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

* 1st grade

[DrPepper12]

WTF do you think is actually taught if not this? What DoE policy do you object to?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

What policy do they have?

[DJB72]

Watch who objects. It won't be conservatives. There's no need for central control of some things, including education, unless the end goal is indoctrination.

[DrPepper12]

Yeah! It's so much EASIER at the local level!!

Some local areas teach "the war of northern aggression"?

Abstinence only health classes?

Canonical literature & theatre banned?

Creationism?

No foreign language requirements?

[DJB72]

I rest my case...

[chrissykerdock]

yes only because they're so bad you assume they're decent but they're not

[slatyb]

We need some non-local funding for public schools because the current system in most states is grossly unequal.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

That doesn't sound good. But that guy is an awful president anyway. Of course he doesn't care about education, among many other things.

[Notherndude84]

Defunding education is always a bad idea. I imagine the dumber people are the better it is for republicans

[BCRanger10]

Oh yes. That useless department should never have existed to begin with.

[DrPepper12]

Why not?

[genericname85]

since the introduction of the education department, education quality has continuously gone down. before it's introduction, it was on a steady upward trend. so it's probably not a bad idea.

[Surely]

I can understand possible guidelines. But whatever happened to the three R’s? Reading, Writing and Rithmetic

[Surely]

Reading, Righting and Rithmetic!
They were the core classes when I went to school.

[onedarkcloud]

He can not do any worse than what the Government has done in the last 4 years 8th graders read at a second level and math is non-existent, but DEI is king in school girls are boys boys are girls

[NordicInScandinavia]

Why not, doesn't seem like it can get any worse.

[Bricealan]

@Kelly6 Yes, I do... a really dysfunctional department

[UrsulaY]

Less intelligent citizens makes for good voters?

[SolitarySolace]

Yes, because it will get people to truly consider who their governor is once it is up to the states. The people will finally get to decide.

[DrPepper12]

This is what some people decide:

"the war of northern aggression"?

Abstinence only health classes?

Canonical literature & theatre banned?

Creationism?

No foreign language requirements?

Why bother funding it or calling it an education?

[SolitarySolace]

Better than teaching people to view straight white men as oppressors 🤷🏻‍♂️

[DrPepper12]

You can't be serious

[msc545]

Bad idea, but then most of his ideas ae very bad.

[SmokinAces2000]

No it’s not. There needs to be a federal educational curriculum because for example, conservative states can decide to completely get rid of science and just teach religion.

[Anonymous]

Only a dumbass Trump supporter would see any logic in this idea. Idiots.

[Celticwolf78]

I don't think anything about what he's doing is good

[Dargil]

I support reasonable infrastructure regulations. Nothing else.

[Ethan_T]

Yeah... how will I go to school? I mean I don't like going but I know I have to. I don't want to be dumb 😅

[Grond21]

Yes. It has been a failure on every metric, without exception

[Jerre]

Yes, a good idea. States can run their own schools. The DOEis a joke

[Kelly6]

@jerre
You do know that big universities need lot of money from government, like Harvard etc.
Billions

[Jerre]

Yes, but they get the majority of their money from private donations

[Max3205]

Maybe it would be better to have a worldwide Department of education. The federal government in the US can't do the job.

[Anonymous]

Dept of Ed does nothing whatsoever for my schools locally. It’s just one more waste of a department.

[4ngelic]

horrible idea obviously

[Anonymous]

Yes, far far too much indoctrination these days to actual teach anything

[jimmy2]

Common sense you sign trillions and no effect to learning then go learn on 50k

[Paige90]

Yes!! It should be up to the states

[XXblack88]

Yes I agree with him on this one.

[Jennz6]

@XXblack88
Me too

[stupefy]

It's an excellent idea.

[stupefy]

In reality the Department of Education is primarily a loan originator for student loans. People complain all the time about having to pay off student loans for degrees that have not landed them a career. The Department of Education sold them on the idea of that debt slavery. A regular bank would consider your career prospects and your current earnings before giving you a loan. So if you wanted to study underwater basket weaving and you never had a job before, they would say there isn't much of a market for those skills and you haven't shown you are a financially responsible adult yet, you are a high risk loan. We do not want to give you a loan to study underwater basket weaving, because you will probably end up working at Starbucks and never be able to pay us back. It's bad for us and it's bad for you. There is a glut of people trained in fields that have no work for them. Many of those people took student loans to get that education. Now they can't escape that debt trap and have no career prospects. That is all thanks to the Department of Education. Economies are local, and thus states and counties need to manage their education goals to create the workers they need for their local economies. Central governments are real bad at that. They have proven they are incompetent and thus should be fired.

[MrOracle]

Absolutely. Look at the results

[zombiewoof]

No way he wants to dumb down the country

[Jennz6]

Save money and let the states handle it

[Jamie05rhs]

Yes. It is.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Yuuup

[Bklynbadboy12]

Bad bad idea