How would you feel if someone around you (a friend, colleague, or stranger) was carrying a legal firearm? Would that make you feel safer or uncomfortable?
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11 moGuns are a funny thing.
Overall, I feel they're a net negative for society. I don’t think it’s rational to walk around anticipating encountering lethal danger at any given moment, just as a baseline. Like you may be too fearful of a person to come out into society if that’s where you’re at, lmao. Fearful people are not folks I want carrying guns, to be honest. They’re most likely to shoot first and ask questions later, or resolve a situation more lethally than is called for.
The best gun owners are the gun owners who I have no idea that they’re a gun owner. The worst ones are the ones who can’t wait to let you know they’re holding, and you shouldn’t fuck with them…. because usually no one’s looking to, and they’re just hoping someone WILL BE, because they have some weird fantasy of legally murdering someone under the safety of “self-defense.”
I hear a lot of people try to say “a gun is like a fire extinguisher”, and I could maybe see the logic in some people’s cases. But I’m just saying I never see anyone posting videos of themselves practicing at the fire extinguisher range, and I never see an “Amerex Fire Extinguishers” decal next to the “Sig Sauer” one on the back window of anyone’s pickup truck.
I don’t think it’s a good thing for humanity to have some of us walking around emboldened to run off at the mouth and then just be like “come get some” to anyone who tries to check you, not because you can fight, but because you have a cheat code in a holster. I don’t know what else to call that BUT soft.
Crime isn’t non-existent of course, but the majority of us will probably go our whole lives without being mugged or carjacked or having our homes invaded or being present at a mass shooting. The odds of somebody getting mad in a fender bender, or over a woman, or anyone who just generally fears losing a physical altercation and getting their nose bloodied…. much higher than you just minding your own business and falling victim to a random street crime. Much, much higher. Where do we live, fuckin’ Gotham City?🤣Basically, if your gun is making you feel tougher or more badass, then you’re doing it wrong. And add onto that all the momentary lapses in good judgement otherwise normal people suffer everyday, and throwing your life and maybe others’ away because you lost your cool but felt invincible because of your heater…That shit ain’t it, man. I don’t know that this is a positive risk/reward.
I live in a pretty gun-unfriendly state, and it’s very safe here. Obviously shit happens like anywhere else, and you can find a news story here and there about an innocent person being victimized, but relative to the amount of people, I feel very safe here. I hear guys I know talking about “I won’t even drive into (insert ‘sCaRy’ city/neighborhood) without my gun out and ready.” Seriously?😂 I drive through these same places, all hours of the day and night, take shortcuts through back blocks…. never had a whiff of a problem. They just heard a thing happened there on the news back in the day, and just responded with irrational fear.
Usually the violent crime happens to people who aren’t staying out of the way. Can a bystander get it? Sure, but I don’t feel like that’s the norm. Those stories are the ones that get the most sensationalized. If someone shoots an crackhead in the drug zone over an unpaid debt, you probably won’t hear about that on the news, only if some store clerk gets killed in an armed robbery.
But again…. this is real life, we’re not in a Batman comic book. I don’t think it’s healthy to have such a level of expectation of trouble befalling you to the point where you don’t want to leave the house without more than your two fists to hold you down. Having “some” caution is totally normal, I just think the gun stuff is going overboard a lot of the time.
I’d say the underlying theme to almost anything I believe societally is that I don’t just inherently trust Joe and Jane Q. Public to make sound decisions for themselves, particularly in areas that will have an effect on the world around them. I don’t mean that as dictatorial as it sounds, lmfao, but trust is an earned thing, and I’d say AT LEAST 2/3 of humanity aren’t even passing the entry level round of cuts. I’m hopeful that it’s maybe 1-in-4 people can be trusted, but it may be as low as 1-in-10 or less, if we’re strict about it.Some areas of life, you can just roll with that and be generally ok. Other stuff, I feel like it’s societal suicide to just leave “the people” to their own devices. And I guess guns are one of the biggest areas that I’m concerned about in that regard. Whether the gun is legal or illegal doesn’t matter to me as much as someone’s attitude while carrying it. Is it for defense, or for offense? Does it quietly reassure you, or does it loudly embolden you?
I think your psychological profile is an extremely make-or-break factor to your fitness for gun ownership, but the problem is not all, maybe even MOST, of the negative psychological factors aren’t apparent, or aren’t seen as questionable or pre-criminal in a vacuum, and once you realize they have a problem, it’s too late.
There’d need to be a complete overhaul of the standards for evaluation and strict determination of psychological fitness, with frequent renewal reviews, etc, for licensing, plus regulation of the amount and type of munitions a person could have for me to start feeling good about it. I don’t think “gun nuts” should really be a thing, that’s weird. I have 50/50 trust at BEST in our trained law enforcement officers to properly identify threats and handle them judiciously. Rando civilians? FORGET IT, lmfao.
There’s some way this could exist to some degree where it would maybe be ok, but it’s wildly out of whack in its current state.
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Do you have insurance, or wear a seat belt when you drive? Do you have money saved for emergencies? Batteries? Any food and water stored?
I do, but it has nothing to do with fear, and the idea that it does is both short-sighted and condescending. Real emergencies actually happen, even to normal people. Ask anyone in the Palisades if they expected to lose their entire neighborhood, and I bet most of them didn't see it coming.
I prepare for emergencies because, even though you can't always see them coming, they still show up occasionally, and if you failed to prepare, things can go so very badly when they might not have if you were prepared.
I don't expect to get into a crash, but I put on my seat belt every time I drive. It's not out of fear, it's out of wisdom. Car accidents happen every day - hell, I see them (or their aftermath) with my own eyes on a near daily basis. Being prepared doesn't make me afraid, just wise.
My state has fires, floods, earthquakes, mud slides, and other natural disasters on a regular basis. It doesn't make me afraid to live here, but I prepare to mitigate the dangers.
That's all carrying is: preparing for an emergency you hope never comes in a world where they sometimes come anyway. - 11 mo
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Oh my God you actually typed all that up. I hope someone reads it. I certainly didn't.
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@MrOracle yeah, I mean, I can appreciate all that to a degree, and you may just be one of the people I’m not concerned about.
But to me it’s kind of a “one bad apple spoils the bunch” thing, all gun owners kind of have to wear the worst of gun usage. You’re choosing to make yourself lethal, and not through natural means like hand-to-hand combat training. Like, whether you’re right or wrong to shoot someone in self-defense…. you still cheated to survive, and something about that doesn’t sit right with me. And maybe somebody cheated to try to off you, I get it, but I’d rather just nobody be equipped for such a situation in the first place, not with such ease anyway. It should be hard to kill another person, both functionally and emotionally.
Like people who stab people with knives? I have odd (air-quotes) “respect” for that kind of kill, because you don’t just pull a trigger and the gun goes boom and the other guy falls down with no muscle used on your end. You have to get in close, put yourself in harm’s way, and you’re a REAL killer if you can emotionally embrace the feel of that blade sinking into someone else’s flesh, the resistance of bone your blade may run into, etc….. you gotta FEEL that kill.
And while I don’t endorse murder of course, I think there’s something preferential to me about a less “good vs bad” protective situation and more of a “I only want REAL killers doing the killing, and not enabling candyasses to suddenly become fake-killers.” It takes no heart to shoot someone from a distance, I’d rather only real and true psychos killed people, honestly, because there are so few real and true psychos in existence.
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@MrOracle And then overall the body count is lower, which is more my concern than enforcing societal right vs wrong, because I again can’t stress enough that I don’t trust most humans’ personal judgement capabilities, after 46 years of immersive life-research, even of supposedly “good” people. Humans lost and can probably never regain my confidence in them to broadly make wise and socially-acceptable decisions in their day-to-day lives. Like I’m pretty “done” with humanity in that regard, that ship has sailed and the dock was burned when it left.
You know the old Lincoln quote about justice, how he’d “rather see a thousand guilty men go free than to imprison even one innocent man?” I’m sort of like that with guns. I’d rather see a thousand convenience store clerks killed in armed robberies before I see ONE guy get shot to death because he beat some other guy in a fistfight or some girl liked him better another dude who happened to have a gun and couldn’t handle the disappointment. I just need to see so, SO much more from general humanity before I could find even a sliver of the confidence I would need to be comfortable with people being armed lethally. It’s not the guns themselves I don’t believe in; it’s the humans who desire to have them.
The one thing I really would push back on is that I don’t think a gun is necessarily just 1:1 comparison to insurance or seat belts or backup food supply. Maybe if you have a pistol in your nightstand or a rifle in the closet of your home, then I can see it more as “for emergency use only.” But I just simply wouldn’t live in or visit anywhere where I thought I’d be unsafe without a weapon. And it IS fear and being scared, we shouldn’t take it as a slight to suggest we feel fear. - 11 mo
@MrOracle I have insurance because I FEAR my house burning down and there’s nothing but my own nest egg to back that up, and now I’m poor because I need to buy a whole new house, and I fear the ease of my lifestyle would disappear. I keep a fire extinguisher because I FEAR a grease fire when cooking, possibly leading to the aforementioned situation of a house fire and losing everything. I wear a seatbelt because I FEAR being rendered quadriplegic for the rest of my life in an accident. That doesn’t make me a pussy. And it is “wise” like you say…. but let’s not pretend it’s not fear-based wisdom, and let’s not pretend it’s unacceptable to feel fear.
But I’d just say the gun is different in terms of being safety equipment, because natural disasters are different from a malicious safety threat from another human, an assault isn’t just some random emergency. Like I’m just fundamentally unable to view that in the same category.
But yeah, anyway, carry on, and it’s commendable if you’re one of the silent gun owners out there who would never draw unless another drew a weapon first. But I’m a person who has like 2/10 confidence in humans to by-and-large “make sound assessments of life around them”, so as long as humans are humans, I won’t really trust them much farther than I can throw a manhole cover. - 11 mo
@Godihateyou How did you know it was long if you didn’t read it?😂 If I was going to just post vapid, one sentence answers I wouldn’t even waste my time opining on things. I don’t read most of what people write here because they take no time or thought. It’s a waste of my time to even take one second to read some muppet just respond “Yes, lol” or “Sometimes”…. are we just hear to rapid-fire terse answers that give zero insight or nuance. This is big brain stuff, kid, maybe it’s not for you🤷♂️
I actually opened up the stopwatch app and timed how long it takes to read what I wrote. I’m a slow reader, and I did it in 3 minutes flat. If three minutes of reading is too much for you, I might not be your speed, and you may need to find something with more illustrations. Might I suggest Richard Scarry? I think they still really hold up….![How do you feel about people who carry guns legally?]()
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@Godihateyou *are we just here to rapid-fire terse answers
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Now we all gotta go get FID cards because @D_Bone_Steak is gonna gaffle us for all of our shit when the apocalypse comes, or maybe just significant snowfall🤦♂️😂
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Yup.
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11 moI’ve always been under the umbrella of ‘just because something is legal doesn’t make it right’ or ‘just because something is illegal doesn’t make it wrong’.
I believe the “Good guys with guns” is lacking. A Texas school police guard was able to prevent a potentially deadly school shooting by killing the assailant on site however the next day in Texas a school shooter took the lives of many….
A lot of people will take an armed ‘hero’ and bank off of it as proof that guns prevent guns though will miraculously ignore the unsuccessful standoffs when police confront a shooter with their many many guns like Uvalde, Texas… You can see on security cameras them barricaded far away from the shooter though will walk happily past the barricade just for ‘Purell’ Hand Sanitizer to guard against possibly Covid19 infected hallways.By making practically everywhere a ‘stand your ground’, we have those holstering a gun just waiting to sh—t someone. How do we know the person with the holster is a good guy or a bad guy? We don’t. There was once a woman in a McDonalds who was peeved a young man didn’t hold the door open…. She complained to a fellow customer, he took out his holstered weapon and took away the man’s life and he was a father with a wife also children….
There are flaws to this, if people want to wipe away the flaws then why can’t we do gun control with govt licenses, renewals, harsher tests, and forms in order to get a gun the responsible way. This won’t deter responsible gun owners, it will deter mentally impaired individuals, unstable individuals, and those wishing to do mass harm onto fellow human beings. People want to make it “you are taking our freedom” when in reality, we are promoting life. Human life isn’t meant to be a battlefield at a supermarket, or a mass casualty event at an elementary school. Human life is meant to be life, would you wish that onto your neighbor or your child or your wife?
I care about life more than a literal killing machine, I’ve seen people say “you blame the gun” then why do I want to restrict crazy madmen and their capability of getting their hand on a weapon?
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11 moHere's the thing, if it's my current partner, a trusted friend or relative, or a respectful dude who lives around the block, I probably wouldn't bat an eye. I might think, "cool they have hobbies" and I'd have to goodwill to think they'd step in the unlikely chance of a robbery.
However, then I think about my exes, or every incompetent coworker, or every asshole who has cut me off in traffic and had the audacity to flip me the bird after to name a few, and I think " my god, I would hate to live in a world where EVERYONE was carrying lol."20 Reply
3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I have a firearm license since I'm longer member of a hunting club than I can walk. A firearm is just a tool like kitchen knife. You can use a kitchen knife or a hammer the way you go life long in jail.
When you're accustomed with firearms, there is nothing magic, mysterious or demonic about those tools.40 Reply
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11 moGenerally carrying a gun is a pain in the ass that the average person will never use in anger. Guns in a holster are heavy and bulky whether it's a clip on for your belt, a separate side holster, or a shoulder rig. You have to worry about gun safety and security constantly. It's just annoying. And it can freak other people out.
Guns can also be expensive. And to get good with a gun, the average person will need to put a lot of rounds through that barrel. That means a lot of time at some sort of firing range and a lot of expensive ammo just to be a competent shot and responsible gun owner. If you have kids at home, you've got a whole nuther level of security concerns.
But it makes angry insecure assholes who live in fear of everything feel like men and gives them the illusion they have some control in their lives. It's a man-baby pacifier that will probably only ever get someone in trouble.
I've always wondered why these idiots who sleep with a gun on their nightstand don't just move if they live somewhere so shitty that they need to sleep with a gun.
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That's what I said!
When you point out the massive numbers of firearm murders in the US, half the time a pro-gun nut will say "most of them are gang and inner-city (meaning black, of course) related". I'd like to know why they think they need to carry a gun if they don't live in an inner city or aren't part of a gang. They should be safe, right? - 11 mo
@goaded ,
The truth is that wherever you have poverty you're gonna have crime. Chicago and LA or rural Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana. There is a lot of redneck crime in the rural South. Meth labs out the wazoo, fentanyl, somebody done somebody wrong trailer park romance shit, etc.
But again, my solution would be to pack up and get the hell out of East Buttfuck Mississippi.
I carry, so it'd be pretty hypocritical of me to have an issue with it.
That being said, there's a difference between responsible concealed carry, and the militia wannabes that walk around with ARs slung over their shoulders everywhere.
I don't have an issue with responsible gun owners carrying concealed for protection, hopefully with the understanding that they may never have to use it. With most people that carry, you'd never even know they have one, and that's kind of the point.
I hope I never find myself in a situation where I ever need to draw my weapon, and I don't carry with the expectation of ever using it. However, on the very slim possibility that I ever do need it, I'd rather have it with me, than not.
Generally, the people that carry responsibly also train themselves, and practice the necessary safety measures to ensure they, and those around them, are safe. Those people, myself included, aren't a danger to anyone, and help to keep society safer.
It's the guys walking around in camo gear, with rifles slung over their shoulders everywhere they go that concern me. Those are the kind if people that just like cosplaying militiamen, and acting tough through a show of force.
I feel that kind of person is just itching for a fight, and wants to intimidate others, which increases everyone's anxiety, and leads to less safety, overall.
10 Reply5.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Doesn't bother me one bit. If the gun is concealed, which is the smart way to carry it, nobody would ever know. I actually feel safer knowing that there are armed citizens around in case of emergency.
Quite a few of my friends have CCW permits and carry all the time. I have one, just in case, but rarely bother to bring my gun with me.
I won a little Sig P380 a couple of years ago and gave it to my wife. She has taken lessons with it and I'd like her to get a CCW permit.
Carrying isn't paranoid. It isn't looking for trouble. It's just pragmatic. It gives you an opportunity to defend yourself or others in the unlikely chance that someone is a physical threat to life.
Estimates of DGU (defensive gun use) instances range between 150,000 and over 3 million per year. Of course, many of them are in the home. The reason it's so hard to estimate the number is because few get reported to the police.
But how many instances of rape, robbery, brutality and murder are prevented by armed citizens? And most of those cases of DGU don't even involve firing a shot.00 Reply2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I have carried and don’t think much about it as I go about my day. I have lived in states where it is legal and never thought much about it. I have even seen people open carry which is usually a pistol on their waist while getting coffee or something but I have seen rifles and shotguns, usually stored on the back window of a pickup truck but I have also seen AR-15s on guys which seems a bit much to me, more silly than anything. Mainly they are just people minding their business getting a coffee something so no worries. If sh! t happens I will be glad they have a weapon.
20 Reply669 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Unless they are trusted by me and have a specific protective reason for carrying a weapon, I will simply feel concerned about it. If good reason, police or alike, I am fine with it. The uniform is more safety than the gun, but still a net positive.
No mentally healthy individual feels a need to walk around with a visible violence force multiplier on them without cause. If there is cause for them to do so , they are putting the people around them in increased danger.
Basically, I do not trust the average person I meet with my safety. There is no reason I would trust them with it just because they became more dangerous.10 Reply- 2.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
11 moThat’s an overly simple approach to an extremely nuanced discussion. I’m not comfortable with complete strangers carrying because i have no idea their intentions, training, skill and discipline. I know hundreds of gun owners that i would trust with my life and that of the people i love. That’s because we’ve talked about our principles, values and philosophies. We’ve gone shooting together. We maybe even hunted together.
Every reasonable person should feel exactly the same. I’ll point to the public’s general trust in law enforcement officers and agents carrying firearms in public. Two thirds of my family and friends will outshoot armed occupations all day every day, by miles. Of the remaining third, some are in the military, law enforcement or corrections, the majority would be competitive and a few are knuckleheads. I never go shooting with the knuckleheads and i don’t hang out with them if i know or suspect that they’re carrying.00 Reply - 1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
11 moI know people like that, I don't care. Also you don't know how many people are carrying a gun right next to you. I remember a dumb thug taking out his gun and pointing it at his friend so his friend could get a picture. He was sketchy and him having the gun concealed was probably "illegal". But, since the constitution is explicit in what it says, the gun can not actually be illegal regardless of what any court or legislative body says as they are then in violation of the law themselves.
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11 mounless they are military or police, they are part of the problem. that's what i think about armed normal people. like if you live in a warzone, fair enough. but there's no reason slinging your weapon around otherwise. like if it's a hobby, take it to the range, not into public space. and "self defense" is bullshit cause a gun doesn't "defend" you against someone shooting you. you'll still be shot and die even if you have your gun with you.
20 Reply 1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I carry anytime I can. Most of my friends do the same. It's just not an issue. Chances are you could hang around us for a year and you would never even know. It's like car insurance - unless you get into a crash, it probably doesn't come up much in your regular life. And like a car crash, it can come out of nowhere at any time with no warning, so you need to be prepared, at the same time you hope and pray that it never comes for you.
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11 moI feel neither safe nor unsafe. I am surrounded by people and friends who carry legally. I just appreciate that in spite of government over reach on our Amendments and ‘Unalienable Rights’ that at least to some degree that my fellow Citizens are able to exercise their “Rights”. If only more would.
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m 11 moI feel like they are cops because, in my daily life, this is the only way to carry, ready to use, guns, legally.
So how do I feel about cops, well... In most circumstances I feel okay, in some circumstances like unautorized protests I'd feel... Less okay!
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Anonymous(45 Plus)11 moI have no problem with people who carry guns legally, I lived in the US for 10 years and I carried daily for nine of those years, and no one around me knew that I was carrying ( I had a a concealed Carry Permit CCW), unless they had been to the range with me.
I have found that where constitutional/open carry is legal that the old saw 'an armed society is a polite society' is true by enlarge, also street crime, muggings, car-jacking etc is lower than in other areas where CCW are needed or it is Illegal to carry.
You may point out the massive numbers of firearm deaths in the US but if you take a serious look at the stats a largest number of those are Criminal-on-Criminal, followed by suicides (mostly men, we do not make 'attempts'), self defence, and accidental shootings.
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11 moI just like living in Canada where really no one has guns besides for hunting. I find guns to be scary and uncomfortable to be around especially after seeing all the "accidents" that happen because people are retarded when handling them.
00 Reply449 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I carry a gun legally, plus I use to carry for my previous jobs as well , so I am trained and safe with fire arms , I always keep one in my car loaded with the safety on , I don’t mind if someone is carrying legally and they have common sense to not pull it out unless of an emergency situation , I like knowing I have protection cuz you never know what could happen , it’s better to be safe than sorry
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11 moI just hope to God that whoever carries a gun around are good, responsible & composed individuals.
Just like my father & brothers before me and just like his father before him, my husband & I each have CCW licenses but we don't go around carrying our firearms in public.
00 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I can carry a gun legally. But for me I wouldn't ever do it just because There are.
A lot of guys out there with Carrie permits and they're just waiting for something to happen. That's the reason why they have it on them. I feel five out of ten or maybe three out of then are you scared boys00 Reply
11 moI don't really care one way or another. It doesn't bother me if someone is carrying. I've seen people carrying at the grocery store, at a gas station, just out and about, etc. It never bothers me, in some places I feel more secure but overall it's just an observation I make. I feel the same way if I see someone's keys clipped to their belt.
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11 moI was at work a couple weeks back and some motorcycle guy came in with a side piece. It was holstered but not very well. Hanging sideways off his beltline. Total stranger. I, myself didn't care. However, my manager didn't feel safe.
I don't care if someone has a gun or not. But if you do, at least holster it so it's not going to accidently slip out and go off.10 Reply- 773 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
11 moProbably safer since the average person not in a gang is not looking to shoot anybody.. And the many times guns are a good preventative measure.. I'm fully in agreement of the saying, "an armed society is a polite society"..
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11 moThat is flat out illegal in Australia. You can use a gun at a farm, or at a firing range, with strict permits and lockering requirements that can be audited. And that's about it. Nobody in Australia carries a gun in public places and our gun-related homicide rate is about 40 times lower than in the USA
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11 moIt would make me feel amused.
But also a little caution will be required: is that person one other Kyle Rittenhouse?
Personally, I prefer people around me who settle disputes with intelligence.
Violence only causes more violence.
00 Reply 5.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Much less safe. Cosplayers with deadly weapons.
When you point out the massive numbers of firearm murders in the US, half the time a pro-gun nut will say "most of them are gang and inner-city (meaning black, of course) related". I'd like to know why they think they need to carry a gun if they don't live in an inner city or aren't part of a gang. They should be safe, right?
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"Firearm deaths of children and teenagers rose significantly in states that enacted more permissive gun laws after the Supreme Court in 2010 limited local governments’ ability to restrict gun ownership, a new study has found.
In states that maintained stricter laws, firearm deaths were stable after the ruling, the researchers reported, and in some, they even declined.
Guns are the leading cause of death in the United States for people under 18. Dr. Jeremy Faust, an emergency room doctor at Massachusetts General Brigham Hospital in Boston, who was the study’s lead author, said he was dismayed to find that most of the children’s deaths were homicides and suicides." www.nytimes.com/.../gun-deaths-children.html
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11 moIt's great! We need more armed law abiding citizens. Everyplace they have this there is LESS crime. The places with the most crime are the ones where they have the strictest gun laws.
When was the last time you heard of an armed robbery at a gun show?
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m 11 moIf it's a mature and responsible person that I can trust, then... okay? But I find the US-American gun culture in general ridiculous and dangerous and the statistics confirm it.
20 Reply 1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If they're that scared around me they want to be able to kill me then they're no friend or colleague but a paranoid psycho who thinks they have the right to execute someone for "fear" of life.
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@Shiprex. "Desire" to kill someone? Give me a break. Does a woman desire to kill someone or merely fend off a rapist in a deserted parking structure?
What's wrong with your brain?
Yes, defending yourself from bullets with other bullets is the idea. What else would you use in a case like that, kindness, reason, prayer?
I love videos of armed robbers getting shot. Fuck them. - 11 mo
@Lliam How many people were killed that were trying to rape or rob women in car parks?
What's wrong with YOU thinking you could SHOOT A BULLET OUT OF THE AIR? I knew firearms propellent had some toxic traits but NOT that level of toxicity.
A least you're showing your disregard for the sanctity of life with your last line. Ever wondered what it would be like of people didn't HAVE to or NEED to resort to theft? Meanwhile the billionaires are all being super benevolent in not redirecting all the wealth to THEM... - 11 mo
Yeah, just let those poor, underprivileged, violent criminals have their way with you. Better to let them rape, rob, brutalize, cause irreparable harm and even murder than to cause them harm. Gee, my heart goes out to them.
Stop making excuses for such psychos.
You don't shoot bullets with bullets. You shoot the person who is firing the bullets.
And did you read the part where I said that very, very few cases of DGU even involve firing a shot? Just the brandishing of a gun usually makes the criminals flee. - 11 mo
@Lliam Maybe do something about NOT HAVING POOR underprivileged people in society when there are huge numbers of billionaires buying politicians and influence to get even more wealth being sent to them.
If NO one had bullets then there would be no need to be as paranoid as you all are.
America is no different to anywhere else yet the gun love culture is the biggest killer of CHILDREN and not one of you is seeing the wood for the trees.
CHILDREN not old enough to protect themselves and yet there are kids here and everywhere able to stand up to knife wielding criminals BY THEMSELVES because they KNOW they have a chance. - 11 mo
@Lliam Not quite. I explained why the criminality of rape is explained and more readily applied in Sweden than most other countries. For example the same event can have as many as 12 rapes recorded but morons can't grasp that concept.
Seems like the range practice must have been quick only 1 dead 3 injured - 11 mo
@Lliam From 1983 I was handling (and then teaching as well as shooting coaching) weapons in a properly controlled military environment.303 Lee Enfield rifles and Stering sub machine guns then the L1A1 and Browning 9mm as well as the L85 assault rifle up till around 2006. Since 2023 it was the AK4 assault rifle that has been my personal weapon.
So irrational fear of firearms isn't the thing, it's the RATIONAL fear of paranoid civilians with racist tendencies and all sorts of other irrational fears of others not like them who think should they have the right to kill people who make them scared.
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@Lliam The key words are OFFICIAL AUTHORISED RECOGNISED and UNIFORMED as in they are NOT there to shoot citizens because they're not legitimate targets though the US doesn't follow that doctrine and uses civilians as what they euphemistically call "collateral" damage. Wars are between nations and ARMIES and not between civilians.
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@Lliam NO they do not kill who they're told to kill that's how war crimes occur. Law of Armed conflict is applied and is internationally recognised though the US sees that as optional so it describes unarmed women and children as "insurgents". Maybe that's why they let school yards become shooting ranges a few times a week eh?
717 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I feel worried and scared. They could get harmed/killed by their own guns in an accident. I mean, what if there's an fight and someone tried to snatch it from them and then... You know. So, I'd feel nervous.
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11 moI just look at myself in the mirror... gawd I look so cool with my gun. It makes me feel safe. Only N-words with a hard R should feel unsafe around me and that word is Nutcracker because if anyone is going to be busting nuts, it's going to be me.
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11 moLegal gun carrying citizens will very seldom be the problem. Seeing a gun on someone doesn't bother me, but I do keep a mental note of where that person is. I live in Texas so guns are common. A GUN or FIREARM by itself has never ever harmed anyone. It takes a person and their intent ( good or bad ) to cause that firearm to do something. Now adults are totally 100% responsible for guns left accessible to children.
00 ReplyUncomfortable to say the least.
Can't wrap my head around the need for guns or the possibility for someone to carry it around like a phone or keys.20 Reply- 1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
11 moAs long as I get the vibe that they’re level-headed and not abusive; I strongly endorse people legally exercising their rights to bear arms
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Anonymous(18-24)11 moMy husband does. One time someone was trying to car jack us and my husband was behind us at the lights. He got out with his gun and they ran. Another time he shot a home invader that had a knife. So glad we moved out of the city.
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11 moDepends upon the maturity & judgement of the person carrying. WHEN I had been a cop in Vermont I had to pass the Minnesota Multiphase Personality Inventory (MMPI) psych exam to confirm to the community MY sanity (Y)
00 Reply 2.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. That all depends on who's carrying it. If they are a sensible and level-headed person who doesn't easily get angry then that's fine. If they're a crazy wingnut then I didn't want to be around them.
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11 moIf I lived in a place where people needed to carry a gun, I'd move. There are many places in this world where you can live without needed a gun for safety.
00 Reply I think it should be either everyone carries or nobody carries. But the lovely exceptions... muck up the waters!
10 Reply726 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Just a statistic for consumption: in Texas.01% of firearm related crimes were committed by concealed carry license holders @
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11 moWhy would I feel safe around someone who could kill me any second just because they felt like it?
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Poppy, someone bent on divorcing you from your meat suit will do so regardless whether they have a tool to do so or merely their bare hands. “Any second” exists even with an unarmed assailant. Assailant is an assailant.
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@MannMitAntworten It's easier with a gun, idiot. Try wounding over 400 people and killing 60 in one day without guns. Maybe you could use a bomb.
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As the idiot you are referring to, the subject was not about killing en masse. Further, there are other options beyond bombs and firearms which are significantly more accessible and less expensive to the general public to render many individuals to their grave. The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei certainly spared bombs and bullets with their, “Final Solution” which ended the lives of millions. In fact, their approach was significantly more expedient and effective than spraying lead into a crowd. One-hundred percent of their targeted went to the grave. There were no wounded. My opinion stands. If someone desires you no longer amongst the living, they will do it regardless of tool. It is merely a matter of method.
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@MannMitAntworten They wouldn't have got anybody into a death camp without guns. You're far more likely to survive a stabbing than a gunshot, and you can run away from someone with a knife or hold them off with, say, furniture.
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@goaded: Do you understand that a firearm can actually protect someone who isn't able to pick up and wield furniture against an attacker wielding a knife or other non-firearm weapons? And is picking up furniture really possible in public where the vast majority of stabbings occur? Generally, no. There's a reason why police are armed with firearms instead of, say, billy clubs.
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@Avicenna You don't understand a thing, do you? You'll just make shit up to defend the cosplayers.
Apart from all the other crap, "the vast majority of stabbings" almost certainly don't occur "in public" (why would you want witnesses?) and police in the UK aren't "armed with firearms", and they do pretty well, mostly because the population aren't walking around with deadly weapons. - 11 mo
That goes for everyone on the planet, not just those carrying guns. A random woman could decide she wants you dead and try to kill you, having a gun doesn't make much of a difference
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@goaded: LOL, are you suggesting that the police in, say, the US not carry firearms? I sure hope you aren't THAT deluded. Then again, you think little old ladies are going to throw furniture to defend themselves!
You also don't have any answer for the scenario I pointed out, one that plays out not infrequently in the US. So you take your UK delusions and store them in the Tower of London. - 11 mo
@goaded: LOL, goaded, a difference of opinion with foreign idiot propagandists like you isn't a "lie" except in your own Bolshevik mind.
The police in the US are under no legal obligation to protect people. For that and other reasons, law abiding citizens in the US often decide to carry a firearm. Under your bizarre reasoning, that is why police need to carry firearms, when in fact both some law abiding citizens and police need to carry firearms to defend themselves against violent criminals. - 11 mo
@Avicenna They're not "differences of opinion", they're lies you're telling about what I'm saying and about knife crime.
Why aren't your police under a legal obligation to protect you? What happened to "To Protect and Serve"?
Regardless, those "law abiding citizens and police" only feel the need to carry guns because they're surrounded by guns. It's sad that so many Americans spend so much time afraid. Even worse that some are hopeful they'll have a chance to be a "hero".
Are you one of the people who claims US gun violence is mostly a, inner-city gang thing and the country's really quite safe apart from that? - 11 mo
If they're not under obligation to do their jobs, why are they getting paid? Sounds like cowardice to me. They'd be ridiculed here if they said that
11 moThe more good people I know are carrying the better I feel when someone bad with a firearm comes around
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11 mojust depends on what they're like
in general tho idc bc most gun nuts i've met are careful about them00 Reply 1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Extremely uncomfortable and thank God that is not a thing in most of the world , USA has far too many guys , it's asking for a disaster.
00 ReplyI live in Alabama, I see so many people carry guns everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE, and honestly it doesn't even faze me for some reason
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11 moIt depends on their temperament. I would be opposed to a hothead carrying a weapon, whether or not they have a license.
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11 moIn the US, it's a legal right to own and carry a gun. Personally, it doesn't make me feel less safe, or more safe.
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11 moYes it would make me feel very uncomfortable and I'm happy it's not a thing here except for police officers
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11 moBy default, I’d be fine with it. Law abiding citizens wouldn’t be most likely to use a firearm on other people.
10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think it's great, and I see people do it all the time.
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11 moAs long as they're not won't to use them to harm anybody (except someone else that IS using one to harm others).
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*won't
I have no idea how the apostrophe got there because I certainly didn't type it!!
3.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I would hope that they would be of stable and sound mind. Not have a hot temper. Of course know how to properly handle and use one if the need should arise.
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11 moI wouldn't feel a way cause I carry legally it's my right and theirs too
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11 moThe guy I most trust in the world has this in his change pocket.
00 Reply 1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They're usually less dangerous than the ones who carry illegally
10 Reply26.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I have a concealed carry permit and sometimes I bring my handgun with me.
10 ReplyI don't like to see it in the open. It's kind of like a threat against even an argument. That's not good.
10 Reply3.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Considering how conservative my neighborhood is, I wouldn't be surprised if mist do have carry permits and guns. They don't telegraph the fact, which is all I care about.
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11 moConcealed or open carry? If it’s open carry personally that tells me that they are looking for an excuse to shoot someone but I wouldn’t be uncomfortable.
00 Reply Nervous people are killed by their own guns. Or by the people who they trust.
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11 moIt doesn’t bother me besides I do a lot of shit illegally so people that do legal shit like I said, doesn’t affect me
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11 moI don't understand the people who feel uncomfortable seeing one around. It is a normal mindless object
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11 moI think it's their right and as long as they aren't brandishing, my opinion doesn't matter. However, I think it's much smarter to conceal carry.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)11 moThey are usually deranged. Unless actual legitimate law enforcement I see no just reason for it.
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