Were you wondering how Mamdani won?

[msc545]

this is a lot of it: https://documentedny.com/2025/11/04/halal-food-trucks-back-mamdani/

[Ariesman81]

WTF did I just read? Street vendors vote to make their products cheaper while also not paying taxes on them?

Mamdani is incentivizing Islam... plain and simple. And all the so called Democrats that were OK with the importation of an incompatible religion will pay the price. Y'all have invited the devil into your home.

[msc545]

"incompatible religion" - does that mean one you dislike or what?

[Ariesman81]

It means a nation built on Christian law and Sharia law are incompatible. Islam is in direct contradiction to the first amendment.

[goaded]

Saying that is in direct contradiction to the first amendment.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

😂😂😂😂... freedom of speech is a Christian value. You're welcome.

[msc545]

It does not have to be an either-or situation.

[Ariesman81]

Tell that to the people of London

[msc545]

you simply dislike Muslims.

[Ariesman81]

I don't actually. There's a lot of similarities between the religions. What I do dislike is Muslims' way of removing a person's free will to gain control.
There's a saying in the bible..."by their fruits you shall my followers" Why is it you think that Muslims wish to immigrate to Christian nations, if not for the fruits of Christianity?

[blackeagle007]

lol. Leave it to a maga to be a conspiracy freak

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

You're free to stay blind if you choose to

[blackeagle007]

I have eyes. No way I’m blind, sorry little camper 😎

[msc545]

I work with a lot of Muslims and I have a lot of Muslim friends and I have never known them to be the way that you think they are in regards to others. You do realize that all of this got started because Muslims and their own countries would not sell well we to the US at the prices that the US wanted and that was many years ago. That is when the hatred started and apparently you've bought into that. Shame on you for that.

[msc545]

0il _

[msc545]

I really hate autocomplete. I meant to say oil and it typed something else.

[goaded]

Freedom of speech is a secular value.

[Ariesman81]

What hatred? I have no hatred for them. I believe they follow lies, and wish to see Islam be the dominant religion of the world.
But I have no shame in protecting my house from a religion who wishes to see me fail.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

Only for women and men under the age of 35

[goaded]

Me: "Freedom of speech is a secular value."
You: "Only for women and men under the age of 35"
Me, again: WTF?

Also, Christians wish to see Christianity be the dominant religion of the world. Especially US protestants.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

I did say there were a lot of similarities between the religions.

[goaded]

Yeah, so why do you only argue against one?

And what did you mean when you said freedom of speech is a secular value "Only for women and men under the age of 35"?

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

The founding fathers only gave the right to vote to Male property owners over the age of 35. Our current "Democracy" is Secular in nature.

[goaded]

That doesn't answer the question. Bear in mind, "I meant to say..." is a perfectly reasonable start to a response. I know the right don't like to admit fault, but "to err is human".

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

What mistake did I make?
You: Freedom of speech is a secular value
Me: Only for women and men under 35
You: I don't get it
Me: Christianity and Islam have a lot in common
You: What did you mean?
Me: The Christian founding fathers believed only in freedom of speech for Male property owners over the age of 35
You: You're wrong, but it's ok.
Me: it may be your understanding of the religions that's the problem.

[blackeagle007]

How about this, free speech for all no matter age, religion and race

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

As a Christian man, I'm on board with that.

[blackeagle007]

Good for u

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

Just not the right to vote. That should be reserved for Male property owners over the age of 35.

[blackeagle007]

I know you’re joking. Haha

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

I'm not Muslim

[blackeagle007]

I’m not either. Dunno ur point

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

Islam teaches that it's acceptable to lie and deceive in order to spread Islam

[msc545]

Nobody wants you to fail except perhaps yourself.

[msc545]

I'm not understanding this at all. Who gives a damn if freedom of speech is a secular value, whatever it is that you think that means? Additionally, who cares what the Christian Founding Fathers believed? That was their problem, not mine and not yours.

Who cares if somebody is over the age of 35 or not? I would assume that people in general, male or female, over the age of 18 know enough to vote. I would also assume that people over the age of 18 can engage in freedom of speech without difficulty. Finally, I would also assume that people over the age of 18, whether they own property or not, can and should speak freely. What the hell does owning a piece of land have to do with the ability to speak freely?

I don't understand your emphasis on this stuff, but it feels really, really restrictive and controlling.

[msc545]

No, Islam does not teach that. Please stop lying.

[blackeagle007]

So you research Islam? Interesting. Is degree in religion research? You’re the expert here so do tell. After all anyone who doesn’t worship trump doesn’t know anything and we are so terrible.

[blackeagle007]

Your degree

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

Over the last couple of years I've done a deep dive into religious doctrines. Both Christianity and Islam.

[blackeagle007]

So you practiced both you’re saying?

[Ariesman81]

@msc545

See, that's our difference. I don't believe the U. S. Constitution is a problem. I believe it's the bedrock in which our nation was built. And it's based on Christian values. Frankly, secularism and "feelings" have caused it to crumble.

It does. Whether you want to accept it is your prerogative.

[blackeagle007]

Separation of church and state. Heard of that?

[msc545]

I don't think it's a problem either, but when you conflate it with religion, that becomes a different sort of problem altogether. You also don't believe in the Constitution because you are quite willing to violate various provisions of it in order to serve Trump.

[goaded]

If you're going to "quote" me, quote me, don't make shit up.

Me: Freedom of speech is a secular value
You: Only for women and men under 35

Oh, you meant to say "people who weren't initially allowed to vote", but didn't. You forgot the vast majority of older men who did not own property, including all those slaves. And that choice was made, surprise!, by rich old white men.

Oh, and it would probably exclude anyone with a mortgage today, if SCOTUS went along with turning back the clock that far.

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

I have. It's not in the Constitution though. And it's usually misinterpreted to mean the church shouldn't be involved in state matters. The opposite is actually true. Thomas Jefferson coined the termed when he reassured the Baptist Church that the State would not interfere with Religious matters. So much for that.

[Ariesman81]

I'm sorry @msc545, but you're quite naive if you don't believe that Religion had anything to do with the creation of the constitution.
And I don't serve Trump, I am aligned with Trump. The same way you are aligned with whoever is leading the Democrat Party.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

My mistake... I thought you were asking me to dumb it down.

But you're correct. I believe the founding fathers got it right the first time. As far as slavery, yeah that wasn't a good thing. If anything, slavery was in violation of the constitution under the "All men are created equal" part.
But let's be real here, an 18 year old adult does not have the wisdom of a 35 year old man. To suggest so would be delusional. And if an 18 year can vote, why can't they run for president? Could it be because they're not knowledgeable or capable enough for the position? I mean come on man.

[msc545]

An 18-year-old could run for president, but nobody's going to vote for them or at least not enough people to elect the president. The system relies on the collected wisdom of the voters and doesn't need to have artificial age limits.

[msc545]

I just wrote collected wisdom of the voters in my last posting on here and then I remembered that those voters elected Trump. Maybe relying on collected wisdom of the voters is not such a good idea after all.

[Ariesman81]

You make a good argument considering the result of doing so has degraded the integrity of the constitution. Much like suggesting altering the constitution to make it legal for 18 year olds to run for president.

[goaded]

"an 18 year old adult does not have the wisdom of a 35 year old man" Oh, look, sexism.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

Yep... now what?

[goaded]

Well, you're admitting sexism, disdain for the constitution that was designed by those same old rich white men to be amended (their collective genius), and that you think you'd rather live in a time of slavery than now.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

Yes... I think we need to get back to the time of the creation of the constitution. In it's original form.

[Tamera952]

We’re not a nation built on Christian law (WTF is that?) …. And he is NOT talking about, nor trying to do anything with Sharia law (where’d you get that?) .

[Tamera952]

Freedom of speech is not a Christian value, …it’s a secular, liberal democratic value.

[Ariesman81]

@Tamera952

Then you are deceived.

[blackeagle007]

@Tamera952 isn’t it what maga complains about?

[msc545]

@ariesman81 yes, I realize that you consider the so-called integrity of the Constitution to be degraded, but I think you are thinking of integrity in your own terms. Based on your previous posts, it would be that, in order to even vote, somebody would need to be 35 years old and male and a property owner. That is patently ridiculous and, in essence, disenfranchises probably the majority of the population at this point, particularly the property owner clause. You forgot to mention that your ostensible voters also probably need to be white and Christian. Again disfranchising even a greater number of people. I think, in light of these beliefs on your part, making it legal for 18-year-olds to vote at least wasn't a terrible thing. I don't think any 18-year-old is going to run for president ever, and if they do, I don't think they'll get many votes again. A needless worry of yours that probably goes along with what I suspect are your views on so-called election fraud, which actually in this country doesn't even exist.

[Ariesman81]

a lot of assumptions on your part. Christians come in all races.
All I'm suggesting, is that the creators of the constitution saw fit to exclude men under the age of 35 and women from voting. There is a reason as to why.
And I'm aware that a majority of women and men under the age of 35 turned out for Trump. But I believe it was their desire for religion that caused them to vote for Trump. And believe me, I'm fully aware what I'm suggesting is causing apprehension in the group you label "disenfranchised", which is what's probably shocking you the most, but I truly believe religion is what was voted for.

And 18 year olds can't run for president... it's against the constitution.

[blackeagle007]

Hence to why I never get into the religion thing

[msc545]

Yes, I can tell that Trump, the convicted felon, probable pedophile, grifter, criminal, and philanderer, is a deeply religious man. You must be kidding.

Anyone who had a strong desire for religion and voted for Trump as a result of that is delusional.

[Ariesman81]

@blackeagle007

why?

[Ariesman81]

I could throw stones at you too. But isn't it crazy how God put him in that position? Hell, there's countless stories in the Bible about men like Trump.

[blackeagle007]

Because I’m not going let it run my life, dictate what beliefs I have to have.

[Tamera952]

@blackeagle007 what do you mean?

[Tamera952]

How so? Explain.

[blackeagle007]

@Tamera952 of what?

[goaded]

"Yes... I think we need to get back to the time of the creation of the constitution. In it's original form. "
I'm guessing you're a white, property owning man over 35, who's also sexist and apparently has no problem with slavery.

Those people who were allowed to vote are the ones who voted to allow more people to vote. Every time, they chose to share their control of the country with a larger group.

Your beliefs are held by a tiny minority of people, and that makes you sad.

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen..." 1797 Treaty of Tripoli
"It was ratified by the United States Senate unanimously and without debate on June 7, 1797"

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

No silly goose, I just want to give you free stuff. Like free healthcare and cheap housing. Maybe even free housing and transportation.

[goaded]

No response to my points, then.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

You wouldn't believe me if I told you the truth.

[goaded]

Only because of your other lies.

Next you'll be telling me you're a 24 year old black woman who doesn't think she should have the right to vote.

[Ariesman81]

@goaded

No. I'm a middle aged Islamic Jihadist

[goaded]

No, just another liar.

[blackeagle007]

@goaded wait, didn’t he say he’s Christian? 🤨

[AviatorTom]

It's New York City. No surprises that a far left liberal socialist Democrat would win, especially when his only real competition was a former governor who was disliked by most.

[msc545]

I tend to agree with you, however, even in that portion of New York City, it's a little bit surprising that he won, except for the fact that Trump and MAGA is so disliked by so many people at this point that I think almost anyone who opposed them could win.

[lightbulb27]

He speaks well and says what many NY want to hear.

It was entertaining to hear my democratic senator say talk about him... he was not positive.

Im hopeful, I'll support nyc as I can, I want nyc to succeed... if it tanks, my area gets some wrath. But he likely makes a mess of it. people have legs and people with money have cars.

[slatyb]

Not at all. He won almost every demographic. Cuomo is not an attractive candidate.

[Sevenpointfive]

he's a smart guy. i hope he's a positive change

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Because the people of NYC are sick of being exploited by greedy ass good for nothing landlords!

[chc0009]

Lots of marketing, that's why. And I may be a Democrat, but even I wanted Sliwa because New York City is overrun with criminals and the mentally ill. But I'm not an NY resident, so I have no say in the matter.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Among other reasons Mamdani beat perv Coumo.

[Anonymous]

No, it's New York. It's kind of a whole nother planet. I wouldn't waste my time trying to understand how and why things get done the way they do on the coasts.😂

[exitseven]

There are more people on welfare in New York than taxpayers.

[msc545]

Really , why don't you try proving that?

[blackeagle007]

Why don’t we try looking up republican cities for a change? I’m sure there’s state aid, crime etc.

[msc545]

@blackeagle007 yes, of course there is, but quite honestly I'm not going to waste my time. These kinds of allegations are just bait that this particular individual keeps throwing out in what I believe are his attempts to distract us. I'm not going to be distracted by it much longer.

[wkhan_87]

No, I was expecting his victory

[Anonymous]

Promised a chicken in every pot.

[QuietRunner]

He got more votes.

[Anonymous]

Free shit