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I can tell that the people commenting here get their info from mainstream media and actually swallow the propaganda.
Venezuela wasn't even on the DEA's radar in 2024. But Trump/Exon want Venezuela's oil, so suddenly they are making unfounded claims about Maduro/Venezuela sending drugs - fentanyl, of all things - to the U. S. on speed boats.
Hugo Chávez expanded the state's control over the country's oil industry through a series of nationalizations, most notably by increasing state stakes to at least 60% in joint ventures with foreign companies in 2007, and by fully nationalizing oil fields in the Orinoco Oil Belt
These actions were part of his policy to increase state control over natural resources, reversing the policy of opening fields to foreign investment that began in the 1990s.
He also made other populist reforms that pissed off the ruling class minority.
As a result, the U. S. attempted a coup against Chavez.
When Maduro was elected, the U. S. and Europe refused to accept the election results and recognized Juan Guaido. Guaido was going to be a western corporate puppet. But the Venezuelan people and the courts rejected him.
Now, the U. S. is supporting María Corina Machado, who has promised to
privatize Venezuela's state-owned oil industry (PDVSA) and attract massive foreign investment, including from U. S. corporations and Gulf nations. She will do the same with other Venezuelan resources.
So basically, the U. S. overthrows governments that want to control and profit from their own resources. It started with Guatemala and Iran in the 1950s and has continued that practice.
THAT is why the U. S. is willing to do whatever it takes to overthrow the Venezuelan government. The claims that Maduro is a dictator and drug lord are absurd.
Venezuela WAS profiting massively from its resources - resources it had no way to exploit at all prior to western oil companies investing billions of dollars drilling and developing the oil fields. Prior to Chavez, Venezuela was the wealthiest country in South America and citizens had the highest lifestyle. Yes, they had to split the profits with the oil companies that had made all those investments and did all the work, but it was mutually beneficial.
Then Chavez got elected and nationalized (read: stole) the oil fields and kicked out the western oil companies. He wanted ALL the money. But, oops, it turns out that oil production is difficult, dangerous, expensive, and is and endless series of difficult problems - problems that Venezuela didn't have the ability to solve.
The result? Oil production fell way off, and continued to fall as more and more things broke and couldn't be fixed. The money fell way off too, soon taking Venezuela from the most prosperous South American country to a bankrupt country where people were starving to death.
Post Chavez, they did start bringing in foreign consultants to improve oil output, But they also started working with China on fentanyl - which the Biden administration ignored, which is why they weren't "on the DEAs radar". This is the same administration who also ignored the southern border and the millions of people streaming in.
Ask yourself why there are still drug boats being sent out? If they wanted to avoid antagonizing the US, they could have prevented those boats from being sent out, but they did it anyway. That's a sign of a leader far more concerned with his own personal power than the best interests of his people.
Probably has to do with the massive amount of drug trafficking going through Venezuela given how much goes through the country it's a valid assumption that the government or certain people in the government are helping move the product through the country. As it is a well known transit hub has been since at least 2013. For drugs going to Europe and the US.
There's also concerns of human trafficking as well given that 8 Venezuelan nations were just charged with offenses related to transnational sex trafficking.
Now I don't think that's a valid reason to start a war. As there are alternate ways to deal with drug/sex trafficking.
Let's put on our thinking caps for a moment. America has a 500 year supply of oil. Of course we can't use it, because Democrats are opposed to burning fossil fuels. Democrats don't want us to drill for our own oil. Democrats are trying to ban the sale of new gas cars in the next nine years. So do you really think the logical conclusion would be to go to war for oil? And if so, why didn't Trump do that during his first term? And why didn't the USA take Iraq’s oil? The only thing that makes sense is regime change. And the Venezuelan people would probably love that. During Trump's first term he tried to give $100 million worth of food to starving Venezuelans. But dictator Nicholas Madura refused to let the starving people have the food. America has a $50 million bounty on Nicholas Maduro's head. He's a bad guy that has to go. Maduro has agreed to leave Venezuela, as long as he can get full amnesty from the world and still be able to control the military in Venezuela. What kind of idiot would agree to that plan? You want a ruthless dictator controlling the military?
3 main reasons.
- oil, Venezuela has more offshore oil than Saudi Arabia
- US public debt. War is a good pretext to further milk the pleb
- growing Chinese influence in Middle and South America.
It's actually kind of a necessary conflict
Maybe next time China should stay the fuck out They won't provoke such a response.
@Cuminginside. Maybe the U. S. should stay the fuck out, too, instead of trying to be the global empire.
We don’t need their high sulfur oil which is bad oil. We in the US were a net exporter of oil in Trump’s first term, so we don’t need it. The debt issue doesn’t make sense to me as Musk would have called it out along with others.
Keeping China and Russia out does make sense and it also senses a warning to others. I don’t think Venezuela will be the last one we go after, Mexico , at best on that list if they make the wrong decisions, Columbia too.
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Please explain the proof that someone in the US wants a war with Venezuela.
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Now imagine China bombing random cops. China says kkk cops are targeting Chinese Americans so we have to protect our people. See how this gets out of hand pretty quickly?
@NaultD And the alternate course of action to decrease drug flow into the US is to. . . open the borders?
@OlderAndWiser US navy ships , carriers are parked at their offshore lol
@OlderAndWiser US should block its borders but no force other country’s leader to step down?
I agree that we should block our borders but the US has more than 95,000 miles of shoreline. It is impossible to guard all of that against smugglers.
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Border is with Mexico
Trump has already declared war. He's using it as a loop hole to justify bombing boats and even threatening aircraft flying in Venezuela airspace.
The fact a few people smuggle drugs isn't justification to declare war on a nation. Nor does it give him the right to execute people, drug smuggling does not carry the death penalty nor does he have the authority to order executions outside of the USA on civilians.
Go to any airport in the world and they'll tell you they arrest drug smugglers from all over including the USA. But they don't kill them on the spot.
The US doesn't want "war", the administration just wants to pick on rulers of countries who defy the Orange Idiot or call him out, and his incompetent cabinet, for what they really are.
Like any bully, they only pick on those they know they can beat up. i. e. a little country like Venezuela. You don't hear Hegseth or Scumpie saying shit like " We can take on Russia, North Korea AND China all at once because we have more nukes", do you? Even those morons know it would mean the end of life as we know it.
The US doesn’t “want war with Venezuela”.
The capitalists want to capitalize upon the richest petroleum reserves on the planet.
If Venezuela concedes, it will be under the guise of “capitalism”. If they do not, we will take over under the guise of “democracy”.
There is nothing new herein. The entirety of the “middle east” has been conquered this way.
But the majority of westerners have pretended otherwise because the truth was too incomprehensible.
They want to toss Maduro out because the country has been screwed up long time and want to fix it. they will apply extreme pressure unti lthat's done.
there are other side factors involved in this.
Trump is swinging a sledge hammer at an issue. once stabilized, oil flows, venezuala stabilizes (so they think), illegal immigration/refugee issue reduced, russia and china deflected, their suffering ended.
many benefits. Downsides... many... may not go well.
Obviously because of the drugs they keep sending to the USA poisoning our citizens. Maduro isn't the legitimate leader of Venezuela either but he controls the military and cartels and that is how he stays in power. The people there already voted for someone else.
We need war with China too and eliminate their government because they also kill Americans with drugs, fentanyl, use hackers and bots to harm Americans financially, etc.
Same reason we went to war with Iraq, to steal their oil and keep the petro-dollar alive.
@CaptainObivous
Your username does define you.
Indeed!
The USA doesn't want a war with Venezuela.
They want to END the war that Venezuela started with the USA.
Every narco-terrorist boat that the USA destroys saves the lives of 25,000 Americans. KEEP IT UP USA!
Hey Venezuela, here's a message for you:
Cut it the fuck out with your drug smuggling into America and all the other anti-USA activities you engage in or you will suffer the consequences and WE will end your war for you THE HARD WAY FOR YOU.
The US doesn't want war with Venezuela. Just stop sending drugs into the US.
The US is rightly interdicting boats that are making runs to the US with tons of illegal drugs onboard, in an attempt to stop it at the source.
That would be very stupid idea from US. They would fight with Cartels. You know Cartel are sending their men to fight in Ukraine. You guys wanna fight those guys? - well good luck
https://www.youtube.com/embed/mbBVWPcWphAhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/sizfzDLN90w Ha! n! gga please...
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In the Vietnam War roughly 40K Americans were killed in action. The figures for the enemy were close to 3.5 million. The objective was to slow the expansion of communism and push western ideas in Vietnam. Today the Soviet Union has collapsed and Vietnam is a westernized country that manufactures stuff for America. Only you commie retards think you won. America was highly successful in Vietnam.
So what happened dog? Where's all that tough talk now? When the Apaches, AC-130s, special forces, and precision guided bombs came you guys just rolled over and played dead. You said you were going to whoop us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6oww-pBT4
I don't think the US does. I think Trump does, and I think he wants it to try and distract people from the Epstein files. I also think Pete Hegseth wants it to make him feel like a Manly Man. It's a shit show.
Thank you for inviting me to share but I never understand why anyone wants war anywhere but it seems to keep happening since the dawn of time so there must be something in it for somebody but it doesn't really look like much fun to me.
The US does not want war but wants to get rid of Maduro and keep fentanyl out of the country.
Don likes saying "Tren de Aragua."
It really is that childish and arbitrary.
Majority of drug smuggling is by white people going through legal means. It's our biases creating holes in our security.
Our government racist biases creates a more dangerous homeland. Our whole constitution is mitigating biases of the time and admitting slavery/ racism is a huge problem we can't solve at the moment. here's the tools and means to do so. Our ability to self govern.
I can go on and on but this racism problem is the soft white underbelly of the best government to ever exist.
Oil. And always has been the reason. Resources or financial advantage is the no.1 reason the U. S. ever tries to do anything like this in other countries.
All they do is making war. Their economy drives on the weapon industry
I don't think the US wants a war. They only want their oil.
Venezuela. Smuggles more drugs into the U. S. than any other country and Maduro is not even Venezuelas elected leader.
Trump needs something to distract everyone from all the other shit he has going on
I can't answer that because I DON'T think the US wants war with Venezuela. I don't waste my time with the CNN brainwashing.
Creating foreign chaos to divert from his domestic chaos? 🤔
Geopolitical domination over China in the American hemisphere. It's pretty simple really.
Maduro (a Socialist) sided with China and cooperated in an asymmetric war against the United States. Now it's time to pay the bills. Either their corrupt socialist government goes away on their own free will or they are take away in in buckets of pink mist. Either way they are goners.
You catching on yet? I've been telling you guys for months that the Monroe Doctrine is in effect... Now Pete is officially telling you.
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War no! we don't want war we are tired of the drugs coming from Venezuela.
I don't know, this is the first I heard of it.
No I think Hrm donny the first wants a war with... well anyone
we dont. that is all leftist propaganda trying to make Trump look evil
We don't. We want to stop the drug human trafficking trade and depose Maduro.
Trump ain’t gonna do shit. Such a chicken lol
Trump want to scare Maduro into fleeing the country...
A dumb policy we’ve always have is regime change. It never goes well at all
I hope so, I need Maduro out of office
Yea I have family in Venezuela
If you can pay for it then sure 😂
It is to me
Because Trump is an idiot
@Celticwolf78 what does that country has that Iraq has?
A wanna be dictator
it's deeper than you think
Because they did this shit to their country
@slimyWitch so why does it bother US?
it wants the gains... not the means
For the oil!
More migrant concentration camps
Trump is really interested in Venezuelan oil!
All Trump wants is oil
They will not be a war
Probably their oil.
Trump likes war
For freedom!!!
Gov change
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