Is the US really on a path toward fascism and a dystopian police state?

[888theGreat]

I think you will not be allowed to own anything. No guns. No freedom of Speech. No religions. Constitution will be rewritten or amended. Forced vaccinations. Chips will be installed in every American for tracking. We will be eating fake foods. Prison time if you are critical of any political leader. Gated communities. Look at what Trump gets by with now. What will next President do?

I watched a documentary on Mussolini and it was like Trump to a T. Scary really. Mussolini was legit his first 15 years and so was Trump his first 4 years. Then Wham-O , then all out Fascism.

Most Americans will be in prison or sent to work camps for free labor for Corporations

Constitution rewritten or Amended

No privacy , AI , cameras and chips know your every move

Gated communities/ can't be critical of country leaders /no freedom of Speech!

Own nothing , no home, no property, no guns, no cars.

Forced vaccinations and fake modified food

All the above

[Likes2drive]

Certainly seems like no privacy anywhere and going towards socialism if people don’t realize it and think taxes will pay for everything if nobody is working then no money from taxes

[888theGreat]

People will be given so much digital currency each month, of course they will tell what you can buy

[Likes2drive]

That’s like having snap benefits

[Sevenpointfive]

a path yes. will it happen? no. but we do have a lot of cowards here. they just need a little encouragement. they would literally have to ban protests to stop it.

[SolitarySolace]

There really should be a “None of the above / No” option here.

The question asks whether America is headed toward fascism, but every available answer assumes that some dystopian prediction is going to happen—mass labor camps, tracking chips, abolition of free speech, elimination of private property, forced vaccinations, etc. That isn’t a neutral poll.

I reject the premise. I voted for Trump, and I do not believe his administration is leading America toward some Mussolini-style fascist police state.

Ironically, the political movement I am actually concerned about changing our constitutional system is the DSA, because its own published program says it wants to draft a new constitution and establish a democratic socialist republic.

My preference remains neither fascism nor socialism. I want to preserve the American constitutional republic we already have.

Trump may use “communist” as a broad political label for the DSA, and democratic socialism and communism are not literally identical ideologies. But at least he is drawing attention to the fact that the DSA is an explicitly anti-capitalist movement with a much broader agenda than a few popular economic policies. I don’t need to call them communists to oppose what they themselves say they want.

[888theGreat]

Because you are blind or stupid.

[SolitarySolace]

888theGreat, So is Bill Maher also “blind or stupid” for saying his 2028 vote is in play because he is concerned about the Democratic Party moving toward socialism? Are the Democratic officials and donors who are openly worried about the party’s growing progressive/socialist wing also “blind or stupid”? Maher has even indicated he could vote for JD Vance rather than support a sufficiently far-left Democratic nominee.

Democrats themselves are currently dealing with a serious ideological fight as progressive candidates challenge the establishment and alarm some party leaders and donors.

None of that proves every concern I have about the DSA is automatically correct. But it does show that dismissing anyone concerned about the socialist movement’s growing influence as “blind or stupid” is not an argument.

So which specific thing I said is wrong? Address that instead of insulting me.

[888theGreat]

Yea he is. Failed comic

[Chazmatazz269]

Don’t feed the trolls, dude. 888theidiot’s TDS is second to none. He is incapable of being honest, let alone rational, where Drumpf is concerned. Hardcore leftist who looks forward to fascism as long as his cult is in charge.

[SolitarySolace]

@888theGreat, calling Bill Maher a “failed comic” still doesn’t answer the question I asked you. More importantly, it doesn’t identify a single factual error in what I wrote. The DSA’s current program literally says its goal is to “draft a new constitution” and “create a democratic socialist republic,” and the organization separately states that capitalism should be replaced with democratic socialism. Those are the DSA’s words, not mine.

@Chazmatazz269, I appreciate the support. I’m not interested in trading insults with him, though. I’d rather leave the question sitting there: what specific claim I made is false? If @888theGreat thinks Trump is leading America into fascism, he can provide evidence and make that argument. Calling me “blind or stupid” isn’t evidence, especially when the movement I’m warning about openly publishes the constitutional and economic transformation it wants.

[FreyaRed]

The more oppressive is a government the more brutal is police and arbitrary the justice system.
Unfortunately the only way to roll back is a system restart. In social meaning a genuine revolution for following separation of some part of a country and economical stagnation. Because every bigger human made social and economical system has an inflationary nature. It grows until the bubble burst. In political terms it's oppression of majority for benefits of small minority until the system collapses.
Humanity is like yeast bubbles on sugar water surface.

[BadApple69]

You missed one option.


NONE OF THE ABOVE.
Under the republicans, we are getting our gun rights back. A fascist will never let you have guns.


To rewrite the constitution takes 38 states to agree on the amendment. That’s not happening.


AI will take jobs and it’ll create jobs. And let’s be honest there are so many things AI can’t do… rewire a house, do plumbing, fix a car…. Flip a burger.


As for work camps…. FDR (Democrat) created the CCC these were work camps that helped build national parks. They were not a bad thing but that’s the closest to work camps we’ve ever had.


Why do you think we are heading towards fascism?
Love to hear your thoughts.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@BadApple69 he's a propagandist. Check his question history

[BadApple69]

Yea I know these guys are out there… I put out facts for other people to read. Maybe it’ll make those with common sense think for a little bit.

[choco-latte]

No, it’s not that easy. I think even if anyone tried to make it so the higher courts would not allow it. There may be some corruption but constitutional law remains firm when it matters most and as we have already seen in a few instances before. That’s the thing that still makes this country great despite what anyone thinks.

[goaded]

Nobody thought the Supreme Court would decide a president has the right to break the law, rather than that the next president would have prosecutorial discretion over any crimes committed and choose not to prosecute if they were in the interests of the country, but they did.

Every justice that voted to overturn Roe swore under oath that they would respect previous decisions of the court. Decisions like Roe (which everybody knew was the purpose of the question).

[choco-latte]

@goaded so like I said there is corruption but not enough to where someone can just take full control of the government, which is what fascism is. This isn’t a country that can just overturn it’s own constitution so easily by majority votes to allow for reelection past the the number of stipulated legal terms. The courts have already overturned some of Trump’s executive orders, such as his order to end or limit birthright citizenship among others.

[goaded]

So, just the House, the Senate, SCOTUS and POTUS. What, exactly is left? Lower courts and the filibuster. The real question is: do you think Trump is trying to get control of them, too?

Oh, there was the ability for Congress to pass laws creating independent agencies, but SCOTUS just allowed Trump to fire them at will, too. But they made an exception for the Fed, because the billionaires who take them on holiday like their money.

[canamlusciouslad73]

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[Anonymous]

I definitely see AI taking over in the near future we're only seeing the beginning of it right now. some people think AI is going to usher in the AntiChirst.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I agree with that

[Opinion Owner]

@FrodoSkywalker007 thanks I think 🤔

[Chazmatazz269]

We were, but then we got the dems out.
The next democrat president will 100% be the end of the American way of life.

[exitseven]

No, we are experiencing the greatest political movement in history. A week does not go by when President Trump and the MAGA movement brings America into a Golden Age,

[goaded]

That would be great, if all the gold wasn't in the hands of a handful of people.

[exitseven]

@goaded Yes, that handful being American citizens.

[canamlusciouslad73]

Golden Age of Fascism, which you Trump groupies would love, exitseven.

[goaded]

Musk is an illegal immigrant.

[canamlusciouslad73]

A golden Fascist age !!!

[Lliam]

You forgot digital currency and a Chinese style social credit system.

[Anonymous]

The more fearful and compliant we become, the more quickly and strongly the Beast System will take over and rule us all. We have GOT to wake up, get as angry as we can, and fight FULL FORCE

[msc545]

You mentioned exactly what will happen, I'm afraid.

[OlderAndWiser]

None of the above!

[fishbone77]

Only if you elect your faggoty socialist pals.

[Anonymous]

There will be a civil war in a few hundred years just like there is in South Africa. South Africa is the worlds canary in the coal mine.

[Staximus]

Sounds like what the Democrats want

[Anonymous]

I doubt it

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Obviously not