Originally traditional minded men were vocally against transgenders invading women's spaces. Women told men to shut up because men were "rude", "prejudiced", "cruel", "mean". Women felt good about being open/accepting. Men backed off and let these women have what they said they wanted!
Now we see why there's value in men being the protectors & guardians of society and the downside of letting soft people control what happens.
I don't agree with trans-women competing with genetic women. Men's bodies are very different from a genetic woman's body - bone structure, muscle, etc. For a male to 'feel' he is a woman, takes hormones, even has surgeries, (S) he will beat a genetic woman out 90% of the time, pound for pound.
I don't think it will bite genetic women in the ass, but will bite trans-women in the ass when they have all the medals. They should be so proud...
Funny how this intersectionality is so self destructive. Feminists are often claim to be allies of the alphabet people. But now this trans evolution that is directly harming women.
Anyway I actually hope this 43 year old freak wins the gold. Yes let him steal a gold medal from a real woman. Then let that simmer for a while.
I am fine with it. Not because I think it's right, but precisely because it's so fucked up. I want this tranny to dominate, to break every record and win every medal possible and humiliate everybody else in the competition. I am hoping it sparks a war between trannies and feminists, so I can grab some popcorn and watch as they tear each other apart. Now that's entertainment.
Are we still pretending that there are more than 2 genders? If there is something swinging between the leg's, it's a dude. If not, it's a chick. The only prohibitions against transanything that I'm aware of, is the laws against trans fats in New York, and considering how bad trans fats are for you, those laws are actually reasonable.
I just want to clarify something because I feel like a lot of people don't know exactly how much hormones change your body. For trans women, once they've been on estrogen for about 3 years, their muscle mass and strength are at the same levels as a cis woman. Meaning they DON'T have an advantage anymore
Well I'm really disappointed in Scientific American for publishing that misleading article. And the other one is quoting one doctor with no references to scientific journals. Several of the points made by the psychiatrist in the SA artical are falacies. First he talks about the effect on trans girls given puberty blockers but doesn't address grown men who transition. He makes the statement that girls still win most races. Well, of course. Most races don't have trans participants. Both of these articles claim there is no scientific evidence, but provide no evidense themselves. Basically, you might be right, but neither of these are credible sources.
And the last article, which also doesn't include supporting evidence, confuses the issue by stating that different level of skill and strength are what make sports a competition. Basically three opinion pieces.
@jerdanro That guy who gave you the articles is literally trans (gay possibly) so of course he’ll send you some fake ass articles to advocate for the trans people like wtf
@Babewithplan Ah so we are go to the paranoia of "the gay agenda" now? Mkay well I didn't pay my subsciption this month so Big Gay didn't send me the updated version unfortunately 😕 Look if you have a different opinion about trans people in sports then fine but at least have something besides "I thing gay/trans people are icky" to back it up
it's wrong if so. Someone should be required to function at their highest challenge level. So if originally a male, they are a male. If identify as a woman, then still compete with males.
only women compete with women... based upon physically born. what a mess all the environmental poisons has created. If there is any question, let 3 doctors decide by unanimous decision.
If there are any aliens visiting the planet, consider beaming me up.
Nothing wrong with it. People also have different advantages from there race. So what? we also gonna do just Black guy Olympics, just white Olympics ha i don't think so. Then Trans woman just due to actual hormones there given they can 100% compete back with less efficient of a man who don't take these hormones. There's a trans men who does boxing and guess who normally wins the biologically males the woman. So i say let the best Man, Woman win no matter there race or gender.
I think its really simple , there needs to be a separate category , as its unfair for sports women , I think everyone agrees completely unfair. Plus what about " Toms " woman transgender man? What hope would they have in most mens sports? , maybe lawn bowls or darts.. They wish to compete? Great , but the category needs to be separate , I'm sure there are some great trans sporting people , but it also shouldn't be the reason they transitioned.
They already make a big deal of it when transmen get pregnant. That just annoys the sh*t outta me, because it's like, they can't even commit to the lifestyle choices they claim they want (being born female, but living as a male, but the getting pregnant). It's grand hypocrisy, if you ask me, just like letting dudes who think they're women, compete against actual women.
It’s not right because they may feel like a woman but their body was male and it’s not fair to compete with a male body. Simple as that
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Trans have an advantage. Which is unfair. I have no problem with trans but there should be trans only sports so then those that aren't trans won't be cheated.
Trans women have my full support on this. Let them ruin female sports and competition. Women are always quick to support every degenerate group but suddenly it becomes a problem when their interests are threatened. I want trans women to dominate female sports and ruin all the attention women expected to get.
It will come back to bite them in the ass sooner or later women will stop wanting to compete against "trans" women because they're actually men with all the physical and strength benefits of a male physique.
It's only a matter of time before they are removed or something is done about it because it really is unfair to actual women. They just can't compete with that.
It’s gonna diminish the value of sports. It’s really unfair to women, since the Olympics has strict rules against the use of steroids (and women would need steroids to be competitive against a biologically male athlete).
And conservative, traditional countries that don’t support the transgender sports culture aren’t gonna win anything.
Disgraceful. They're cheats and frauds and are disgracing women's sports and dragging women's sports down. The sad thing is that there are natural born women in sports who support this because they are too conformist and stupid to come to their own defence.
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Originally traditional minded men were vocally against transgenders invading women's spaces. Women told men to shut up because men were "rude", "prejudiced", "cruel", "mean". Women felt good about being open/accepting. Men backed off and let these women have what they said they wanted!
Now we see why there's value in men being the protectors & guardians of society and the downside of letting soft people control what happens.
I don't agree with trans-women competing with genetic women.
Men's bodies are very different from a genetic woman's body - bone structure, muscle, etc.
For a male to 'feel' he is a woman, takes hormones, even has surgeries, (S) he will beat a genetic woman out 90% of the time, pound for pound.
I don't think it will bite genetic women in the ass, but will bite trans-women in the ass when they have all the medals. They should be so proud...
Funny how this intersectionality is so self destructive. Feminists are often claim to be allies of the alphabet people. But now this trans evolution that is directly harming women.
Anyway I actually hope this 43 year old freak wins the gold. Yes let him steal a gold medal from a real woman. Then let that simmer for a while.
I am fine with it. Not because I think it's right, but precisely because it's so fucked up. I want this tranny to dominate, to break every record and win every medal possible and humiliate everybody else in the competition. I am hoping it sparks a war between trannies and feminists, so I can grab some popcorn and watch as they tear each other apart. Now that's entertainment.
Are we still pretending that there are more than 2 genders? If there is something swinging between the leg's, it's a dude. If not, it's a chick. The only prohibitions against transanything that I'm aware of, is the laws against trans fats in New York, and considering how bad trans fats are for you, those laws are actually reasonable.
I just want to clarify something because I feel like a lot of people don't know exactly how much hormones change your body. For trans women, once they've been on estrogen for about 3 years, their muscle mass and strength are at the same levels as a cis woman. Meaning they DON'T have an advantage anymore
What evidence of that do you have?
@jerdanro Here are two articles explaining why there is no scientific reason to ban trans women from competing with cis women:
www.npr.org/.../wave-of-new-bills-say-trans-athletes-have-an-unfair-edge-what-does-the-science-s
www.scientificamerican.com/.../
And here's one explaining that hormone therapy reduces muscle mass/strength of trans women to similar levels as cis women within a year:
www.google.com/.../479032-do-transgender-athletes-have-an-unfair-advantage%3famp
Well I'm really disappointed in Scientific American for publishing that misleading article. And the other one is quoting one doctor with no references to scientific journals. Several of the points made by the psychiatrist in the SA artical are falacies. First he talks about the effect on trans girls given puberty blockers but doesn't address grown men who transition. He makes the statement that girls still win most races. Well, of course. Most races don't have trans participants. Both of these articles claim there is no scientific evidence, but provide no evidense themselves. Basically, you might be right, but neither of these are credible sources.
And the last article, which also doesn't include supporting evidence, confuses the issue by stating that different level of skill and strength are what make sports a competition. Basically three opinion pieces.
news.ki.se/new-study-on-changes-in-muscle-mass-and-strength-after-gender-affirming-treatment-may-have-an
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31794605/
@jerdanro That guy who gave you the articles is literally trans (gay possibly) so of course he’ll send you some fake ass articles to advocate for the trans people like wtf
@Babewithplan I wasn't aware Scientific American and NPR were in the business of "fake" articles.
@inexpensivefurniture And I’m pretty sure you’re gay with your own agenda lmao
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Advocating for something that’s plain wrong makes you ignorant.
@Babewithplan Ah so we are go to the paranoia of "the gay agenda" now? Mkay well I didn't pay my subsciption this month so Big Gay didn't send me the updated version unfortunately 😕
Look if you have a different opinion about trans people in sports then fine but at least have something besides "I thing gay/trans people are icky" to back it up
Imagine a world where men can mutilate their bodies and then compete against women while pretending to be women themselves.
That would be quite a silly thing wouldn't it? Oh wait..
*HONK HONK!* Clownworld bitches!
it's wrong if so. Someone should be required to function at their highest challenge level. So if originally a male, they are a male. If identify as a woman, then still compete with males.
only women compete with women... based upon physically born. what a mess all the environmental poisons has created. If there is any question, let 3 doctors decide by unanimous decision.
If there are any aliens visiting the planet, consider beaming me up.
Nothing wrong with it. People also have different advantages from there race. So what? we also gonna do just Black guy Olympics, just white Olympics ha i don't think so. Then Trans woman just due to actual hormones there given they can 100% compete back with less efficient of a man who don't take these hormones. There's a trans men who does boxing and guess who normally wins the biologically males the woman. So i say let the best Man, Woman win no matter there race or gender.
I think its really simple , there needs to be a separate category , as its unfair for sports women , I think everyone agrees completely unfair. Plus what about " Toms " woman transgender man? What hope would they have in most mens sports? , maybe lawn bowls or darts..
They wish to compete? Great , but the category needs to be separate , I'm sure there are some great trans sporting people , but it also shouldn't be the reason they transitioned.
I hate it, it's unfair since transwomen are biologically male.
I agree- it sucks.
Finally. A female with common sense! What a rare find these days! @exitseven
These are fucking biological men, and no amount of political wokeness can change that.
the ultimate enemy of the left is reality, and reality is an undefeatable foe
@007kingifrit Wake up, I'm as left as any exit of the highway in England and I also deem this total bollocks...
@Boromir you maybe left in some areas but you're obviously not as far left as you could be as you would be defending gender theory
economically though. reality will come for all socialist policies soon
Things have gone too far. What's next, trying to get trans women to give birth too?
Funny that you mention it..
They already make a big deal of it when transmen get pregnant. That just annoys the sh*t outta me, because it's like, they can't even commit to the lifestyle choices they claim they want (being born female, but living as a male, but the getting pregnant). It's grand hypocrisy, if you ask me, just like letting dudes who think they're women, compete against actual women.
Just look at this f*cking abomination.
@MCheetah
yeah the picture is gross
It’s not right because they may feel like a woman but their body was male and it’s not fair to compete with a male body. Simple as that
Trans have an advantage. Which is unfair. I have no problem with trans but there should be trans only sports so then those that aren't trans won't be cheated.
Women should speak up more because they started this whole thing
There's been some men that are all in it too. I'm not gonna get involved with all that foolishness.
Well those men are more than likely doing it get sex from women
@chris_987 FEMINISTS started this. lets not blame all women for the evil of one sub group
I’m asleep. That’s still a biological male. Ban this.
Trans women have my full support on this. Let them ruin female sports and competition. Women are always quick to support every degenerate group but suddenly it becomes a problem when their interests are threatened. I want trans women to dominate female sports and ruin all the attention women expected to get.
Would be hilarious if transgenders took over the wnba and then the wnba players started getting paid real money because they actually can jump.
It will come back to bite them in the ass sooner or later women will stop wanting to compete against "trans" women because they're actually men with all the physical and strength benefits of a male physique.
It's only a matter of time before they are removed or something is done about it because it really is unfair to actual women. They just can't compete with that.
It’s gonna diminish the value of sports. It’s really unfair to women, since the Olympics has strict rules against the use of steroids (and women would need steroids to be competitive against a biologically male athlete).
And conservative, traditional countries that don’t support the transgender sports culture aren’t gonna win anything.
Disgraceful. They're cheats and frauds and are disgracing women's sports and dragging women's sports down. The sad thing is that there are natural born women in sports who support this because they are too conformist and stupid to come to their own defence.
They’re the ones who started the push for “inclusivity” and that’s why they’re not saying shit about it!!