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Because 'objectification' is bullshit. As soon as it becomes inconvenient to act consistent in their standard, people who shame others for passively enjoying peoples bodies will express the same attractions that they claim makes others their moral inferiors. The human body is an object shaped by years of social evolution in the reproductive process, they are no less susceptible to being debauched than males are by a body they like owned by a man. Regardless of peoples' agency & whatever mental sophistication it houses, there will usually view the obese neckbeard with a degree in womens studies as less attractive when juxtaposed with The Rock or many other notoriously handsome celebrities.
What's hard for some people is embracing the realities of people having the capacity to be worth more than their bodies, & because of this you do get a lot of people who overvalue people just because they're attractive in looks. To my view these websites and the phony feminism it employs is an attempt to shame the male side of human objectification because of the way that men are markedly more affected by bodily looks than women in attraction. It really is a failing of men that we're so easily won over by involuntary morphological facts of birth. On average I've found women are more appreciative of intangible aspects of people like humor or intellect, not that those things define their sense of attraction, they're just less physical. They also are attracted to wealth and status more, on average. They did a study where they had the looks of one man and one woman judged by women and men while sitting in cars which varied in value (like the difference between a honda civic and a ferrari). What they found was that men found the woman the same amount of attraction to the woman regardless of what car she was in, and women found the man in the ferrari more attractive even if it was the same guy. So female superficiality is just different. This leads to resentment in certain women, just like the female preference to status causes certain men to become misogynistic. These people who resent it all end up gathering into groups to politicize their feelings against these habits, to decry its effect on others' self esteem and shame people for acting naturally. This website is just one manifestation of that politicization. You would find similar inconsistencies on MRA websites and shit like that, its really not a unique problem to feminism.
Thats feminism for you.
Well, because occidental culture is based on the objectification of people. Men were always objectified, but not as much as women - or at least not as clear. It's usually covered by the attitude of the pretty and strong macho man, while women are usually turned into sexual images. And, besides that, some people believe women are not as pervert as men or they don't think about sex as much as men do, so it's still kind of ok to objectify a man. When women start to be seen as a sexual being as much as men and, therefore, a possible pervert or sexual predator, probably more people will start thinking that it's not ok to do it.
In resume, it's about equality and star looking at both men and women as sexual beings and possible perverts to realize that objectification is wrong.
its objectifying and guess what? there is nothing wrong with it. Both men and women are perverts and are physically attracted to eachother. dont forget, you are an animal too. acting ashamed of our nature is what make women act like these beings who are so clean in the head when in reality, they like sex just like everybody else.
I didn't act ashamed. I actually was pretty clear about women sexuality, we desire sex as much as men do, but women's sexuality isn't an open theme as men's sexuality. I didn't say it was wrong to desire sex, I said objectification is wrong, because I believe you can sexually desire someone without forgetting that what you have I front of you is a person.
no, I didn't say you were ashamed, I am saying that is what causes women to hide their sexual feelings.
So, because women have managed to obfuscate their true feelings and agendas for a protracted period of time, that's why they can objectify men, without being called out on it? So, what you're saying is that it's a lack of truthiness, fear, and real honesty that is to blame for the hypocrisy of feminists crying about objectification, while openly feeling completely free to objectify men?
@gagsucks333 My comments were directed at @LostPanda. I actually mostly agree with you. The media does foment double-standards and shines a light on the ugly underbelly of humanity - of both the masculine and feminine varieties - if it bleeds, it leads. The media is a biased voice, intended to sell their "story"... but their "story" isn't required to be perfectly accurate or unbiased... Just noteworthy, provocative, and "monetized"...
@gagsucks333 It's also a personal observation, over my 4 decades of experience in this society. I have a perfectly functional inference engine. I'm also quite capable of making reasoned observations. Don't get me wrong - I do see this improving, in an overall sense.
However, you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. We're not mindless drones, waiting to be programmed by the evil media conglomerate empire. Maybe you are, but I'm perfectly capable of seeing the world through my own eyes. And, yes, we ALL deal with truthiness, fear, and honesty issues. How men materialize those issues is different from how women do, but don't be fooled. The media may foist a one-sided or faulty narrative over the proverbial fence, but I have a fully-functional BS meter.
@Guy2345 are you senile or something? come back and visit again? dude, you look dumb as hell right now lol. you are way to arrogant to admit the obvious root cause which is the media. Peoples feelings can be used as tools and manipulated, that doesn't make you a ''mindless drone'' you idiot. Its just human nature. We are emotional beings and the media feeds off from that. If we did not have media, we would not have the influence that we see today. This is common sense. The media conditions people from a young age, and we grow up into it. Maybe you dont understand this because you are old and you dont realize just how much we are invested in media these days as we are in the age of technology where we are connected globally but you should think before you speak. I have learned a lot, but you are clearly to dense and pretentious to admit the obvious culprit because you dont want to look wrong. if there was no media, we wouldn't have this wide spread problem we see today.
now this is the last reply you will get from me, because I know you will go to hell and back to prove a point which isn't there. Whats ironic is you said you agreed with me, now you are going off like an idiot making no sense. you dont have a point nor are you using logic, you just want to argue.
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To continue the cycle of how many MRA/redpill sites there are supposedly advocating for 'men's rights', but making it a challenge to find a single mention of men OR their rights as you sift through countless essays written by men spouting off about how ALL women are manipulative, slutty cunts who were put on earth to screw over 'nice' guys.
Well dating and marriage is oppressive to men. Also they're both systems of prostitution.
Real MRA pages don't post rants, sure there are bad apples here and there but most MRAs just want to end misandry. They don't hate women, they simply want men not be neglected.
@BasilBrushSays
dating and marriage both forms of prostitution? lol. What in the fuck? I'm going to assume you were raised in an extremely patriarchal culture and/or religion what-with your being the one viewing both of those as serving no purpose other than to satisfy male's sexual needs. 🤣
That sounds like a Reddit MRA page. I'm referring to some of the Facebook MRA pages.
ok I'll take your word for it.
Either way, I guess it's safe to conclude that, like certain 'men'ts right's' sites objectify women for the sake of promoting men receiving more rights, certain feminist sites (ie. buzzfeed) will objectify men to raise awareness for increased amounts of women's rights.
I think the problem with the divide between men's groups and women's groups is that the bad apples in both groups (men's and women's) are known for being very vocal about their extreme views. So their ideas get more publicity than the ones who are normal.
yeah, I agree^.
I actually had to unsubscribe to r/theredpill (as advised by my boyfriend) a few months back because the more time I'd spend on that forum, trying to empathize with and really get where most of those men were coming from, the more hateful I began getting towards all guys, my boyfriend included.
Whatever you assume about my experience and not go off topic... explain why it's not prostitution?
The simple answer is you can't explain or come up with a legit argument except lead to childish mockery.
@BasilBrushSays not sure where you're seeing 'childish mockery'?
Anyhow, moving past your delusions, it's not prostitution because most men (ie. not the select few who are so socially inept that they choose to live a life dedicated to moaning about how evil women are as a means of coping with their inability to successfully win one's affection) choose to date/marry women not only for the sexual benefits. Believe it or not but men, just like women, have emotional needs, as well as the need for mental support from their partner. I mean, society would really go to shit if ALL men began to partake in acting like angsty pre-teens and writing essays about how much they detest women, in hopes that this will magically make things better for them, no?
What are you talking about? Why you judging and assuming these things when you don't know me. Dating is meant to be equal investments but women invest nothing. It just leads to the women selling and the man having to buy or invest. I might as well pay for a high end escort for a good time if women are not going to bring anything to table but her fat ass and self entitled bitchy attitude. Why can't a man's company, personality and loyalty, be good enough to be rewarded with sex. All that women do is use sex as a weapon, favour or rewards rather than seeing it as something mutual, I'll give a woman my loyalty and relationship but I want my needs met too.
Well tell me what women invest then? I don't understand what women expect me to offer besides relationship, loyalty, time, energy, being a nice and caring but get no sexual reward in return. Relationships are about meeting each others needs but women will only put out if I spend money on them or sometimes either use me for freebies or on dates, make me work for it by having to entertain her like some performing monkey, flake out on me or piss me around and get nothing. All that energy, time, money wasted and get nothing in return when I could of been doing something else like making money. I might as well spend hard cash on a high end escort for a good time, at least am guranteed respect and good quality sex.
Like what?
What emotions, money and time do women put in? Emotions? Men have to do all the approaching, escalating, paying, time and effort with guranteed reward. It's like gambling or rolling dice.
@kaylaS91 I'm not saying that I agree entirely with @basilbrush, but he isn't entirely off base, either. Socially speaking, men have largely had to be the "initiator" and "risk-taker", in any new relationship. A woman's level of risk had historically been to whether to say "Yes" or "No" to a date with the make propositioner. Guys have been in this role for so long, that we've gotten a thicker-skin to rejection. Women are less likely to put themselves out there and ask a man on a date, because rejection sucks. Rejection is a soul-sucking, painful feeling and women are ruthless, sometimes, in the process of rejection a man's advances. Really, truly, make the guy feel like crap, cause he had the audacity to think for a second that she might be interested in developing a relationship. Because of this, we come across as the aggressors and women get to sit back and whine/cry about how he "stared at me too long..."
By the way, how many dates do you make a guy take you on before you allow any intimacy? 3? 5? I guess your paying the bill, half the time, right? or are you making him pay for it all? If you're making him pay for all the dates, guess what... You're turning yourself into a prostitute, just in a really slow fashion, broken up over time...
@Guy2345 lol A+ for effort in terms of desperately trying to validate whatever point you're trying to make. To answer your questions:
-I decide to sleep with a guy when I want to. Not based on a pre-determined amount of successful dates.
-My boyfriend and I usually go dutch when it comes to paying the bill at restaurants. Unless it's one of our birthdays or whatever, in which case we'll treat the other.
Try harder, chump.
It's Buzzfeed. What else do you expect from them? It's a terrible website overall and they treat their employees like shit.
There's websites that objectify men and there's websites that objectify women, and some do both. Just seems to be the way things are nowadays.
I agree. This is sexist. If they were talking about a woman, people would freak out.
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They're feminists, they're hypocrites by nature.
Buzzfeed is the first one to jump to your neck if you think a woman has nice boobs, but they're also the first ones to make an article filled with pictures of guys on basketball shorts showing their dickline.
Feminist = hypocrites, gotta get used to it.
feminism should be bombed out of existence, neither men or women should be objectified, equality over gender and race should be our goal.
anything else?
Damn ur only 13 and sound more mature than those old feminists 👍🏻
I filled it in wrong, sorry I'm 17
and I try to help...
if you really believe I'm mature or wise, thanks but I don't know where I got it from
Nothing wrong with objectifying men
It is ok to objectify women to.
Just because some women do not like it... jelousy? Does not make it wrong.
Other women love being the eye candy.
Whether some people like it or not. Visual attraction plays a very large role in attraction and desire.
Men are visually stimulated, always have been and always will be.
This idea that you can tell a man what he finds attractive is ridiculous. I could not care less what media shows and says is attractive. I have my own tastes. So does everyone else on the planet.
I consider myself a feminist, but it pisses me off when websites like that object the objectification of women but then go on and objectify men. After all feminism is supposed to be equality for /everyone/ not just women.
Objectify =/= discuss being attracted to
Very rarely are men 'reduced to sexual objects' - both of the men in your example are introduced first by their job, for example. Although it does happen, regardless; black men are sexually objectified a lot in media comparatively, tbh. But the examples weren't that.
Besides, if you think the way those str8 women talk about men is bad, you should hear how we lesbians talk about each other :P it's not 'objectification'!!
I'm only showing the titles of the articles, you should read what those articles say about the men. It's not surprising that the people running that website posted that about the bodyguard. The people known as SJWs are notorious for favoritism, they care about certain people but they neglect other people. They complete neglect the Asian communities.
why do you say that?
It's true, the people known as SJWs only care about the well being of certain groups while neglecting other groups (favoritism).
I mean specifically about neglecting Asian communities
Hey, when you lose a job for making a polite compliment to a woman, because there's no real empirical definition of "Sexual Harassment", then come talk to us. Until then, recognize that you're a clueless hypocrite. Just because you, and those around you, speak in more aggressive language, doesn't mean that people, specifically men, haven't been harmed socially, financially, and a hundred other ways, for saying, "Nice dress" to a co-worker or colleague, or perhaps staring "too long"... It's called "leering" and can land a man in hot water. Mostly women, who claim sexual harassment, by the way...
"Objectify =/= discuss being attracted to"
That is the exact same problem. Where is the line between objectifying and being attracted to? Who says where that line is? Who decides that? And why is it ok when women do it, but not when men do it?
I think that's the entire point of the thread-starter. I doubt he cares about women doing it. His point is to show the double-standard - especially from websites who proudly proclaim how they are against objectification just to do it themselves.
Not that it is any surprising how those people are hypocrites, since its nothing new that many of those holier than thou types are psychologically projecting.
The real intention of feminism was to fight for equal rights for women. There is always an issue with discrimination. Just like there is discrimination against those with mental illness , LGBT people , disabled people etc. , unfortunately feminism has lost it's real message of what it truly means to be a feminist. Now it's just yelling at people and for some reason that is supposed to stop misogyny.
If you want to make change in this world and stop any kind of discrimination, you have to make an effort. Lobbying , political campaigning etc.
And for the question , NOT ALL MEN are misogynistic. Some are. Men that are sexist should be the ones to fight against.
You can't just objectify all men. That makes no sense.
Target the real problem and stop being so politically correct
And what's wrong with that you see women looking sexy on almost everything so what if it happens to men and this is one of the reasons why men say that women aren't visuals because we hardly see a lot of these, honestly I don't really see a problem with it
That's not the problem, the problem is the hypocrisy of those websites.
Okay, it's just about a nice butt. Nothing wrong with that.
At least it's not mainstream porn that shows girls having their mouths stuffed so much they start gagging.
Or a Bodybuilding. com article telling you not to take your girl to the gym because you won't be able to check out other girls...
Oh BuzzFeed. They had a hot guys newsletter, had an article saying that these boys can get us pregnant without touching... I don't like it.
Most of the time men don't honestly care and only pretend to care when it's an opportunity to score points against supposed feminists. "I'm so objectified", said no man ever.
Buzzfeed is a trash website. Never trust their "news" stories as they're extremely biased and not a good source--unless of course you're searching for a strange feminist video or a food testing/review session video! lmao
I think for me a compliment is very different from objectifying. If you say that person has a nice butt, smile, hair etc... its a compliment. If you start forgetting that there's a person connected to those features thats a problems. Thats objectifying. The treatment of the person makes it either or.
Thats not the same case. The point of the discussion was the articles that slam objectifying women and do it to men.
I think true equality would be being able to talk about any butt. Who cares if it comes from a man or a woman. as long as they are respectful about it then talk away about that fire butt.
Awww, welcome to our world !!!
I'm not a hardcore feminist though, I love old-school...
But... WELCOME TO OUR WORLD THIS HAPPENS TO US WOMEN EVERY DAY.
And trust me again... my comment has nothing to do with being feminist or not :)
@xBreezy They, Them , They Them... WHO? Honestly, generalizing in this case would not help us much, we're all different and we react different, some women might like it if the dude is attractive (Whatever attractive means to you), and some just don't like it because they don't like it no matter by who it comes, if it's not a compliment from their own boyfriend then THEY SIMPLY DON'T LIKE IT > i'm one of those...
And I do understand HIM and I understand he is calling out the hypocrisy, but I hate the words THEY AND THEM... I want to know WHO !!!
@xBreezy Nah, it's not the same. Men are not hypocritical about objectifying women but women are. They complain about how men only want them for sex but they make themselves into hypersexualized objects. Men don't (generally) wear makeup for example. Women will complain incessantly about how they are a human being too but later slink off to sites like buzzfeed or gawker (which was sued multiple times for blatantly disregarding the privacy of men's personal lives and eventually shut down for that) where they parade men around as the same sexual objects they object to being portrayed as. Hypocrisy 101.
@xBreezy Same. She's just nitpicking instead of continuing the discussion. Talking to a brick wall.
i don't get the point... why are you all so offended by a simple and harmless comment?
I'm not saying that it's right to objectify whoever wheter it is a woman or a man or an animal or a plant...
I could switch and just say ohhhh thats wrong you can't do that but the second i leave the house there will be men outside catcalling me and whistle at me... sure not all men do.. but why does my comment bother you two so much? We can continue i don't mind 😊
I don't think you really understood what OP was getting at.
He says that these feminazi websites always whine and bitch about men objectifying women and how it's sexist and misogynistic but when you reverse the roles not only they do not have a problem but they also encourage reverse objectification.
The thing is OP wasn't saying he has a problem with male objectification (Men don't care about petty issues) he has a problem with these websites who objectify men but piss on anyone who objectifies women.
Can we all agree that Buzzfeed is the worst thing on the internet?
I agree.
I'm not a feminist so why they do it i dont know. to me it double standard.
It's BuzzFeed, what do you expect? I never take anything they say seriously.
Buzzfeed is a cesspit of SJWs, double standards and hypocrisy... and they're not alone LOL
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You could stop going to these useless websites and generating ad revenue for them...
because for some reason people don't think men can be objectified because in general they are sexual people.
Implying that women aren't sexual?
all men?
please refrain from assuming all are the same.
in case I misinterpreted, sorry.
@TheDerpyDeed huh?
assuming ALL men are sexual and ALL women aren't?
cause I know MANY cases that prove this wrong...
my girlfriend (pansexual) really likes to let's say "play"
and I know a few men who don't, not with anyone, they just don't think that way...
@TheDerpyDeed that was the point... the point is everyone generalizes men to be sexual being and females to not be. Also you're 13, keep your pants on
23, thanks for judging
@TheDerpyDeed well should a 13 year old really be doing sexual things? No
again, 23, the thing switched my age 10 years back upon selecting birth date.
thanks for judging -_-
@TheDerpyDeed Well your info isn't correct so she isn't judging, she's reading the info you provided.
@ Zendrya Now I see what you mean. Yes, there is a stigma that men are sexual and women are not. I blame media and especially Hollywood, the corporate brainwashing machine. Oh, and feminists "rape culture" which demonizes men before they even have a chance to have normal sexual relationships and side skirts any personal responsibility for an individual male rather lumping them into a "all men are rapists" stigma.
Your entitled to objectify the opposite sex all you want. Girls like guys and guys like girls. Those protesting it are the ugly people in the world who wouldn't be objectified if they paid people. Angry, ugly lesbians and streak of piss, gawpy wankers moan about this shit all the time. Men and women aren't district groups, it's just a collective term for a gender. We're not a commitee or a gang with a leadership so don't speak on my behalf
It's quite simple. When a woman gets annoyed at you for not holding the door, carrying her handbag or any other S***, please remind her that there are no more Gentlemen left in the world... Feminism killed them, nothing against them but don't preach Crap knowing full well you wanted it this way!!
I don't pay the full amount on my dates, then I get "I can't believe we split the cheque" ... Please, you asked to be treated fairly!!!
Because when it comes to men they don't feel like they are actually objectifying them
Agreed, according to feminism men cannot be objectified even if they are being objectified.
Men ren't told by society that the only thing they have to do is be pretty and they'll be fine.
Not saying it's okay, but it's less if an issue.
Think when people compared that picture of Justin Beiber naked to the Fappening. The difference was those were private pictures that were stolen and that pic of Justin was taken by someone in another room that was staying there. (Also, who just goes outside naked? Just saying)
Neither are necessarily okay, but one is WAY worse than the other.
Eh... I'm guilty of objectifying men sometimes. I'm guilty of objectifying women too though 😂 I think this is seen as a bit of fun though. I can understand why men might get offended... I can see why women would. I don't know. It happens.
Feminists is why. T
@starbucksjr69 that's such a nonsense response. You're 17 and it shows with that response.
How was it nonesense though. Feminists don't like that men objectify women. I think you're jumping to conclusions just cause of my age
@starbucksjr69 I think you're jumping to conclusions by not reading a word I actually said and just spouted some shit about feminists. I said I'm guilty of it. And that it's not ok. But that I also objectify women. So? What's your point? You just looking for an argument with someone son?
When I was talking about feminists, I'm not talking about you or blaming you. I'm placing pressure on the women that caused men to be insecure on what they say to women in order to not offend them or objectify them. I never even said anything harsh or bashful. But let's totally argue over me saying "Feminists don't like it when men objectify them" cause that seems like a logical debate to have
@starbucksjr69 you're the one who commented it in the first place. Not me. You're not placing any pressure on anyone, you felt the need to comment on my thread though?
So commenting Feminists are why is harmful. Alright lady
@starbucksjr69 where did I say harmful? I said nonsensical... learn to read.
"you're the one who commented it in the first place. Not me. You're not placing any pressure on anyone, you felt the need to comment on my thread though?" Obviously is
@starbucksjr69 you wanna quote where I said harmful though? Or can you not read?
There's such things as context clues and synonyms. If you're offended by something that means it must be mentally harmful to you otherwise we wouldn't be at this stage by now if you haven't noticed
@starbucksjr69 what am I supposed to be offended by? Once again you're waffling on with zero context.
Then what are you waffling about from what I said if what I say has no context?
@starbucksjr69 ... and yet you continue to make zero sense. Bye.
You just don't put effort to make it make sense
@starbucksjr69 no, you don't bother trying to make sense that's your problem.
I don't feel like I had to since women are smart. You said bye already
@starbucksjr69 and yet you keep typing nonsense on my thread 🤔
Are you gonna go or what lady. I can keep responding nonsense all day
@starbucksjr69 enjoy being blocked then.
it's just a way to spereate the masses n get them riled up so the media can controlle the masses n keep them off the governments back while they pass a bill just like the ttp bill when the battle flag "rebel flag" n the gays. people get this idology that if the join or fall in the crowd they'll be apart of something big n don't realize there helping the media's/ governments agenda. it's wrong n people are blind to notice
lmao i find it ironic. Girls are so quick to judge each other and bring themselves and each other down, through gossip and condescending words and yet the moment they become 'women' its all about unity and bagging out the boys.
just women trying to find drama in the adult world i reckon tbh.
There are some tho who do go about it the correct way, and oppose correct things, so this doesn't apply to all.
Because much of the basement media that dominates the backwaters of the internet is controlled by feminists and gay men. Ever wonder why the entertainment media is so obsessed with fashion and relatively uninterested in the actual content of film and television?
I'm not a feminist, so I can't really go nuts and get pissed. People are hypocrites and everyone is offended by everything nowadays. People have to bring it down a notch. Obviously, there are limits. Keep it classy.
make life easier, get a sense of humour. its ok. promised
With all the double standards that are out there right now that are NOT in a woman's favor I don't see any sympathy we need to be bitching about until the scale is much closer to center. I am not saying it's right, but we need to get a tad more equality before men will have a platform to start their gripe. Long story short, men can get in line behind the laundry list of inequalities women have...
I don't think they even think about whether or not its okay. They think about what will get the most views and how many people will use their story to re-post.
It isn't okay.
Objectified? I don't know but feminism in my opinion is just about to support women... it has nothing with men to do.. Buzzfeed can be kinda annoying because it says that buzzfeed hates: White privilege people, skinny people, hetero people, and happy people... and they always be like "Uh being Lgbt kid is so uniqe than hetero people!" So annoying...
I guess buzzfeed wants to make everything different.
The problem with feminism is that it doesn't support the women who need it.
Humans are selfish, and do things for selfish reasons.
For example, western feminism focuses on the little problems that western women have, instead of focusing the huge problems that eastern women have (for example in the Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia).
There is nothing wrong with supporting women, I just think there should be a world collective to support the women who need it.
Honestly I can see that he's an attractive guy, but he's not my type. They just saw what was popular on Twitter recently and wrote an article making it seem that every girl wants this bodyguard even though it's not true. Lol.
A lot of women have been tweeting on how how they want him. The article even shows the tweets.
You think he looks to "feminine"😂.
*too
Buzzfeed? lol They are the worst.
as a femenist man i hate any of these i see man and woman equal only thing i see different is woman put on make up and man dont i really hate people who say mans are bad or they all are using woman i just want them to understand everyone is different and personality DOESN'T change according to your gender.
Feminazis, you know why they do?
Because of this buzzfeed = more clicks = more $. That's why they write what's "hot" topic right now with CLICKBAIT titles.
Everything for $$$, they don't give a crap, feminazis, anti meat, anti shit, anti wall, anti trump. They'll talk about trending topic, why? Because of $ and views, even if they are not right at all.
First if all why do u get so many comment. some men like it but some dc. It's not a big deal if they did that to me I'd take it as a compliment n laugh 😂. were men we r mentally n physical tough. i think u need to stop n think n stop being so emotion about stuff
Buzzfeed is a major tumor on the internet. A lot of shit they put out is crap cause they don't seem to have much filter when it comes to things like this even if they try and stand for objectifying women and men. It's best to just ignore them for a while
BuzzFeed is cancer, as is everything that is part of Feminism.
If I were to say "Objectification is a human problem associated with categorization." I have a feeling no one would care. If I were to say "Feminism is balls! Patriarchy forever!" I'd attract negative female attention. If I were to say "Women are the biological choosers of mates and their objectification is required!" I'd garner negative male attention.
But if I say "You're right" then I'll get mixed responses all around.
Aren't you the same person that keeps complaining that men don't get enough attention from women?
I use to think that "women aren't attracted to men" but not anymore. www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a33820-7-things-i-now-understand-about-women
If men wouldn't objectify women, women wouldn't objectify men, but that's never going to happen. It's our nature.
angelina?
Let's stop pretending that women only objectify men because "men" do it to women.
Women objectify other women just as much as men do.
www.livescience.com/...female-objectification.html
Women look at other women as "parts" and compare themselves to those parts. Women are more critical of those parts and use those parts to pass judgment on other women.
Women are much more objectifying than men because they do it to both sexes. Men simply look at women lustfully because of biological programming used to mate.
@LogicBomber An example of how women pretend not to objectify men:
everydayfeminism.com/.../
@Wwwyzzerdd Proof that Feminism is a mental disorder.
@Harah
You shouldn't give your opinions on opinion boards, if you get offended by opinions that differ from yours.
@LogicBomber "Proof that Feminism is a mental disorder." I'm suppose to take you seriously?
Are you saying you dont like for women to be attracted to men?
No, he's asking why are women hypocritical about being objectified.
Feminism is originally about social, political and economic equality for both sexes, which therefore also means neither should be objectified. 'Feminists' that do, are abusing the term. Sexualizing and/or objectifying is wrong either way.
Feminism never included any provisions for men.
Is this a troll XD
Do you know how many site do that to women? A lot more.
Plus I know a site who do much worse than this..
Not really. More websites are about men if you haven't noticed
@beautifulangel76 About women.
Read the update.
because in every situation there is a subject and an object. you have to keep a balance between the two. so if we make demon objects sometimes we also have to make men objects. it's an okay thing to do otherwise there is a ridiculous double standard. it's okay to be an object as long as you can still be a subject. it's all about knowing that we all objectify each other and that's okay. because we can also be subjects.
Even though I think Buzzfeed is just a cesspit of misandry, you can't really deny that they're just doing what everyone else has been doing to women this whole time anyway.
Men aren't as emotional as women or that's the stereotype... In South Africa there is a trend to hashtag menaretrash... This is reported to show awareness of women abuse...
because most women don´t like to be sexually objectified but most men don´t really mind xD i guess that would be the most rational explanation for this double standard.
also it´s buzzfeed they only care for clicks not for any social norms or political correctness.
in my experience, most guys tend to want to be objectified, somewhat desperately, in fact. I certainly aspire to be a sex object, anyway..
Thank goodness nothing like that ever happens to women! 😂
I think you missed the point. There is no doubt it happens to women but this website that condemns the objectification of women also constantly objectifies men which is a sign of hypocrisy.
Equal opportunity I guess?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't disagree but it is what it is
Because women like guys and sex sells.
It's also in a way nice to hear women geting worked up over us.
I don't think its enough of an issue (yet) to get worked up about I will wait and see what it becomes first.
using buzzfeed as a source for your argument is like... using buzzfeed. For and argument.
Some girls think they are better than men or need to be more protected and have more rights. That's just the way the world works.
@Guy2345 And I hear people say/ read comments stating the same sort of thing from both genders all the time. Some people are fucked. That's just how the world is.
Try not to get so offended over what random people (especially teenagers) say online because you'll be banging your head against the wall.. Maybe go have a bubble bath or something. Or a beer. Or a beer bath. You've been going off quite a bit on here and I think you need to relax.
I think she is right... but i don't think saying ''that's just how it works'' justifies it. Women do seem to have higher egos then men on their looks... probably due to attention they get on stuff like dating sites... oh and all the family members telling them how great they look.
@Nyx_85 Regrettably, I didn't pick up on the fact that she's 16. I'll certainly pay more attention to the OP's age. Nevertheless, I haven't said anything that isn't true or inappropriate, from my perspective. This question is an important question, from a men's rights perspective, and an opportunity to state what I believe to be true. If she gets a better understanding of the world, as opposed to the Steinem/Allred version, then it's a good thing. I'll "chill" once I've voiced my piece. If you aren't comfortable with verbal conflict, arguments, or hard truths, probably shouldn't be on this site...
@Guy2345 "from my perspective."
Yeah and perspective is entirely subjective. We all see things differently. Two people can experience the exact same thing yet form different opinions based upon how they perceived the situation.
"If she gets a better understanding of the world, as opposed to the Steinem/Allred version, then it's a good thing."
I don't think it's that she thinks it's ok for women to be that way and not men. But she's saying some women are cray cray and that's just how it is. She never stated her opinion on if it was a man and that wasn't even the topic anyway. The topic was what some girls think. Like do we seriously have to add a disclaimer to ever single subject so people don't make assumptions? Like "You said puppies are cute. So I guess you hate kitten then eh?"
I wasn't aware this site was a plethora of wisdom 😂
Oh I don't take much offense to a lot of things.
First, I'm not suggesting she's a raving feminist or that she's somehow suggesting that the disparity is "ok".
Nonetheless, apathy is EXACTLY what this post is about. The statement that, "It's just how the world works" is apathetic. it's also a victim statement - One that men have used and been demonized for. Why should women get to use it, without any push-back? Why do women march for women's issues, and expect men to be supportive, but protest
much less frequently for men issues? Self-interest, perhaps?
this happens all the time. men aren't valuable citizens in modern society. they don't care about dudes. so we can be objectified buy not women
its not a man or women thing. its an attractive thing
But you don't see men creating a movement to stop objectification. Women do, however:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J31AT7viqo
www.cnn.com/.../
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23istandup&lang=en
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...ed-more-than-women.html
The subject being addressed is how websites objectify men while decrying female objectification. Hypocrisy.
If you can't see the hypocrisy then you are a hypocrite. You are one of those women who will bitch and whine about being viewed as a sex object by men while being open to discussing Tom Hardy's abs.
Are you even reading what I wrote?
Did you read what OP wrote?
You aren't reading between the lines here. Context matters.
The context is men and women create sources of objectification in the media. Men are not creating movements decrying objectification. Women are.
Regardless of the attraction element, the topic being discussed is why do women create objectification then complain about being objectified themselves.
That isn't an attraction issue. It's a sexist issue towards men, literal hypocrisy. "Women being objectified is bad! Stop!" versus "Did you see the top 20 Zac Effron beach pics?"
okay look, the difference is, zach effron is a male celebrity so that's a poor example. regular woman are objectified all the time including in commercials and other things. sex sells and women are the product. But still, i do not believe its a gender thing. i think that is used to brainwash you guys and y'all are falling for it nicely but whatever. im out i stated what i stated and thats it
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@deadpool1992 If men really were objectified the same way and as much, we wouldn't have a problem.
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@deadpool1992 I don't understand... You said the opinion giver had a bullshit answer because she said men aren't objectified and then I show how men are objectified and my answer is bullshit too?
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That picture is exatterated, but the idea is still there. Men themselves complain how little "sexual power" they have compared to us, how both men and women are obsessed with the female body. Do you really think we are not? You think we exploit and objectify male bodies just as much?
Yes girls do it just as much only it's never talked about. Why do you think 90% of men on TV have 6 pack abs? Have you ever seen a skinny male underwear model? have you ever seen any male models on anything that were skinny? no. Guys are objectify just as much but people just don't talk about it because we all feel men can't be objectified. If a guy get, s raped everyone takes it as a joke and tell him to stop being a pussy, if a girl sexually harassed a guy no one does anything about it but if it's a girl them the world on fire. Guys can't be rapied or sexually harassed because for some reason people feel all guys care about is sex and we don't care who we get it from. I known a guy who was hold at gun by while a girl sucked his dick then punched him in the face. Till this day people still nake fun of him saying they wish they were him
it is called freedom of the press, funny how guys get upset when the table is turned around
it's not about the objetification itself it's the hypocry of the website that is against objectification of women but then does it to men
Your missing the point... women complain and do the same shit.
First, women have always objectified men... Just as long as men have justified women. This is not a new concept. It didn't start, just yesterday. It's funny how women can be made hypocrites by their own gender and no one feels overly compelled to push back... Just shrug, smirk, and goes on about your day, right. Where's the outage, now?
Freedom of the press is not a blank check to ruin people's lives like Gawker did. There's ethical reporting standards and that's why Gawker was sued/shut down.
We're scratching our heads as to why women say they hate being objectified yet will objectify a man in a heartbeat.
@Jager66 Exactly.. men don't care TOO much about the objectification... its the hypocrisy... I always make sure i don't objectify women but I honestly can't be bothered anymore It's a joke.
The reality of today's world is that women are actually more powerful than men. We are slowly turning into bonobo apes. A women dominated society.
Because sex sells, for big companies like that it's all about money. They'll make articles about anything that's gonna bring them revenue
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