Why Turkey considered as a mid east country?

[AnatolianMongol]

We Turks are not mid easterner we came from central Asia. we are altaic people similar to mongolians. Whatever race that Mongols belong we belong that too period.
We don't want to be separated from our central Asian roots.

We are not Arabs and we dont have any connection with Arabs and we hate Arabs.

I dont wanna be categorised with people that I don't share anything common pyschically, linguastically, culturally, historically and ethnically.

Arabs are alien people to me as much Sri Lankans (just an example)

Categorising people based on their region is stupid. Not all world is like Europe who all came from same tribe (Indo Europeans)
Just because we live in same region with Arabs that doesn't make us relative with them or same people with them.

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Asian and proud.
Not mid easterner

[Anonymous]

You are not like Mongolians, they have slanted eyes. Mongolians actually attacked you in the past.
Only Americans think that you are "Arabs", but they don't know anything about history.
I know that you are not Arabs, but you are Muslims, just like Arabs.
Persians are also not Arabs, but they are Muslims too, just like Turks and Arabs.
You know why people conside you as a mid eastern country? Because you live in the middle east... Turkey is geographically situated in the middle east.

[AnatolianMongol]

Being Muslim doesn't change anyone's race.
And secondly here in Turkey we don't have a national religion. We are secular.
Secondly Turkey is not mid east. Climate and nature of Turkey is nowhere close to mid east.
West is more close to Balkans and east is more close caucasus.
But it doesn't matter tho we are not natives of this land. We came from central Asia.

[AnatolianMongol]

Maybe we don't look mongoloid but still we don't look mid easterner either.
We have Syrian refugees in Turkey. They look nowhere near Turks.

[AnatolianMongol]

And I didn't say we are mongolians but mongolians were our closest relatives.
We both altaic people.
And our ancestors were slanted eyed people too.

[Opinion Owner]

I know that being a Muslim doesn't change anyone's race, but your race is not Mongolian, you definitely don't look like Mongols, or Chinese, or Koreans, or Japanese...
I know that you are secular, but your religion is mostly Islam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Turkey
As you can see on the map, your region is categorized as the Middle East, not because of climate, but because of historical reasons.
I know where you came from, but that doesn't change the fact you are currently living in the middle east.
If you were living in Scandinavia, you would be considered as Scandinavians, regardless of not being Scandinavians by origin (Finnish people for example are not Scandinavians, but they live in Scandinavia, and most people consider Finland as "Scandinavian country").

[AnatolianMongol]

Does white south Africaners considered as black?

[Opinion Owner]

Oh your ancestors were slanted eyed people? Well, let's see, this was your famous Sultan Bayezid I:


As you can see in the picture, he didn't have slanted eyes, and you know from your history that Mongols attacked Turkey during his rule.

[Opinion Owner]

No, white south Africaners are not considered as black, but they are considered as Africans, because they live in Africa.
Even some indigenous nations from Africa are not black - Berbers and Copts for example.

[AnatolianMongol]

Maybe we don't look mongoloid but we definetly don't look mid eastern either.
If we are brown then Arabs are black. We have Syrian refugees here. I never see any Turk that is dark as them on my life and I am not even talking about more darker Arabs in gulf.

And by ancestor I mean our ancestors in central Asia (Kokturk empire) and Seljuk empire times our history starts at central asia and Turks dont only exists in Turkey. Except Turkey and azerbaijan all Turkic people around the world is slanted eyed and slanted eyed people still exists in Turkey. Not a lot but still exists.

[AnatolianMongol]

And by the way I am from European part of Turkey.
I am not even living in mid East.
So am I considered as a European now?
Whats next
Region doesn't mean anything when it comes to race

[Opinion Owner]

Mid eastern is not a race, it's a geographical term. As I said before, other nations live there, not just Arabs. Jews and Persians also live in the middle east, but they are obviously not Arabs.
I never said that you were "brown", only some American would say such a stupid thing.
Syrians were not originally Arabs, they were conquered and assimilated by the Arabs in the medieval times.
Well, Bayezid lived about 600 years ago... over half a millennium years ago... but he didn't look like Mongolians... and why would they attack you if they were your "closest relatives"?
Turkic peoples are ethno-linguistic group of various nations, they are not "the same nation".
Turkish and Turkic is not the same...
Slavic people are also an ethno-linguistic group, but they are not "all Russians", or "all Polish", or "all "Czech", just like not all the Turkic people are not "all Turks".
European part of Turkey was not originally yours, it was taken by force from the Byzantians.
I know that religion is not related to race, I already told you that, I'm not American, I know the difference.

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you for MHO :)

[Anonymous]

Because under the ottomans the Turks once controlled the middle East and Africa and Asia minor came to be thought of as the one place. People's thinking really only changed after the Turks were defeated in WW1 and Constatatinople was retaken by the forces of Christendom.

[Eryxx]

Is it? I never considered Turkey as a middle Eastern country. Even by looking at person, I can mostly differentiate whether he/she is an Arab or a Turk.
I guess it's poor geographical skills of the people.

[AnatolianMongol]

Turkey is geographically both mid east and Europe
I agree with that but Turkish people were not native to where today's Turkey.
We end up here after 1000 years of migration and conquest etc.
Our original homeland is siberia and central Asia altai mountains.

[Logorithim]

Geography, religion, culture, and the ottoman empire

[AnatolianMongol]

Culture?
Are you serious. t
Turk culture is completely different than Arab culture.

We are more close to central Asians
and ottomans were a majority balkan empire not mid east. They were not even a part of mid east before they start to conquer Arab lands in 1600s.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

The Middle East is a geographic region, of which Turkey is a part of
And Middle East IS part of Asia.

[AnatolianMongol]

By Asia I mean east and central parts.
Those mongoloid looking people.

[AnatolianMongol]

Turkey is not mid east.
Climate of Turkey is more close to Balkans and caucasus. We don't live in desert like rest of mid east.
And Turkish people are not native to mid east. We came here later.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

Then why's it called the "Gateway To The Middle East"?
en.wikipedia.org/.../...thographic_projection).svg

[tartaarsaus]

Because it is a geographical classification. It doesn't matter whether you're culturally, ethnically or whatever related to them.

[AnatolianMongol]

People were using it racially.
We dont belong to same race with Arabs.

[tartaarsaus]

Then you should whine about people using the term incorrectly instead of whining about that it exists

[FunkyMonkee]

Ummm, well, it's a country and it's in the middle east.

[AnatolianMongol]

But Turks are not mid easterner. We came from central Asia.

[Anonymous]

Because you once ruled the middle East until my people conquered you, this is why we are your masters

[weirdoweirdo]

Turkey as a country is geographically positionef in the middle east but it doesn't mean that turks themselves originate from the middle east...

[Anonymous]

Asians dont like you
Europeans dont like you
Middle Easterners/West Asians dont like you

You are a mix of a bunch of bastards into one. so much rape. no wonder you hate yourself. so insecure

[AnatolianMongol]

We don't hate yourself idiot we are proud to be Turk. . We hate mid easterner and you know what mid easterner are not Turk. Not my people.

[AnatolianMongol]

*ourselfs

[AnatolianMongol]

Also we are Asians.

[Opinion Owner]

Middle easterners are better than you
Europeans are better than you
Asians are better than you.
No one cares about you

[AnatolianMongol]

Mid easterner are bunch of ugly shitksin, inbreed looking towel head people with no culture and history. They are low Iq bigots obsessed with religion and their countries are war torn shithole.
Yeah they are better than us that's why they beg us on our borders to get inside our country, Turkey only great country in mid East.
Also cannot mentioned the fact that we dominated them for centuries.

For Europeans,
Europeans were dominated by Turks for centuries in both Hun era and Ottoman era.
they are bunch of delusional people. They came from same roots with Indians and gypsies, but even though they think they are master race and not that long ago those people were shitting on streets, burning people that they think witches etc.
But I admire the current western civilization not gonna lie even thought its builded by stolen resources of Africans.

[AnatolianMongol]

Asians dont hate us, we are Asians ourselfs too only Asians people that hate us is chinese but it's normal for them to hate us we fucked chinese hard for centuries. We are the reasons why they builded that wall.

[Opinion Owner]

Europeans are your daddy’s. You beg them to be one of them.
They look at you and see poo. So sad

[AnatolianMongol]

We fuck both Europeans and mid easterner.
We dont wanna be one. You Europeans are delusional scums.
Look at this fucking delusional European thinking everybody in the world wants to be a European.
Why should I want to be something that is Lower than me.

My ancestors dominated Europe for centuries.

[Opinion Owner]

You wish you were white

[AnatolianMongol]

I am already white, Shitskin jew, my skin is white
. Do you think I look like you inbreed Shitskin jewish sandmonkey? Off course no, I didn't originated from Shitskin camel fucking sand dwellers like you.
But we identify ourselfs as Asians because if we call ourselfs as European, our ancestors that fought against you would turn around in their graves also we don't wanna forget our real roots, central Asia and siberia and also because Asian people are much more superior than you filty Europeans.
I wish my ancestors never mixed with you.
Asian have highest Iq levels in the world they dominated Europe for centuries, they are rich in culture and history.
You wish you are Asians.
Also Asians are most beautiful people on earth.

[AnatolianMongol]

We are your masters.
https://youtu.be/EpziBNWmChs

[Opinion Owner]

you were raped by everyone. mongols raped you. dont talk back to your masters.
we are europeans. makers of civilizations. you are monkey

[AnatolianMongol]

Raped by everyone?
We are the ones who is conquered both Europeans and mid easterner also a big portition of Russia and China when we are in central Asia.
What are you talking about sandmonkey

[AnatolianMongol]

Also Mongols are our blood brothers. we both altaic people

[Opinion Owner]

You are trash who contributed nothing to the world. go back to mongolia and live in tents

[AnatolianMongol]

Go back to Yemen sand monkey.
Also central Asia is much better than where you currently live and areas that your ancestors came from.
Have fun in your desert shithole.

[AnatolianMongol]

Oh I forget you fucking semites are originally from Somalia. Hahahahahaha

[Opinion Owner]

there is something wrong with your head. I am from netherland and i am worth 10000 of you dirty people.
disgusting tent dwerller barbarion speaking to his masters like this. Dont forget who educated you. donkeys

[AnatolianMongol]

Who cares if you are from Netherlands you re still la disgusting jew who came out from Somalia and originated from disgusting shitksin towel head desert dwellers with no culture and history.
Also Europeans hate you too.

[Opinion Owner]

lol i told you my country and you say im from africa. You are stupid Asian. No culture?
you wish you had our culture. go beg to be let into the EU. peasant turk. very poor turk
sh*t on the street turk. here in amsterdam turks always on the street begging

[AnatolianMongol]

Your ancestors are from Africa you filty semitic.
Why don't you go back to Somalia or Yemen where you belong.

[AnatolianMongol]

Do you have culture?
What is your culture? A stupid religion. That is made up by yourrselfs nothing more ahahahahahahaha

[Opinion Owner]

lol okay then? you're at the bottom. all the way at the bottom. no one like turks i dont blame them
leave Europe and go back to where you came from. ugly big nose white wannabe

[AnatolianMongol]

I am not even in Europe cunt.
I bored in Europe but I am currently living in Istanbul.
Also before feeling me where toive why ado t you leave Europe first you fucking jew and go back to Somalia and Yemen where you belong.

[AnatolianMongol]

*borned
*telling
*to live
*dont

[Opinion Owner]

fk you and fk jews you moron. We europeans will kill both of you

[AnatolianMongol]

Looks like you forget what happened to your ancestors who tried to invade us 100 years ago. They are sitting underside of aegean sea right now also don't forget the fact that we dominated you for centuries either.
We are your masters slave. Europeans are nothing but small insects compared to us.

And look at this fucking jew who starts to act like a European. You were a jew 5 minuted ago. What changed? Huh? dont ever try to do racial discussions with Turks you fty semote you will always get owned.

[Opinion Owner]

look up when did i say im jew you idiot. turks are so backward and stupid. stupid muslim monkey

ugly and smelly. eat horse sh*t like good mongolian. u r too black and ugly to be european. we will never accept you

[AnatolianMongol]

Mot here but in other question.
Stupid jew, we are not trying to get ourselfs accepted to Europeans. its just high ego European delusion. Stupid europeans thinking they are master race and everybody wants to be European. We dont wanna be European but we are not mid easterner either. We reject both.
And also be careful when taking a name of a nation. That is more superior to your mouth.
Mongols are your master. We dominated you and half of the world for centuries.
Black and ugly? Lol this are huge words for a European (or jew doesn't matter both are dark) who originated from bunch of gypsies and Indians or if you re a jew then from bunch of semites.
On the other hand we mongolians were always light skinned people and mongoloid features look much better than you.
Even the most beautiful Europeans are always be the ones who has most mongoloid ancestory like Scandinavians and Russians etc.
Fucking caucasian scum. Without mongoloid people you would still look like Indians.
R1 gene that gave you your lights skins originated in central Asia.
You are mixtures of dark skinned aryans from mid east and light skinned mongoloid people from central Asia.
You take your white skin genes from migrations that you Europe get from central Asia through Russia in ancient times. We gave you your looks and make you look humans.
Look at early European farmers if you wanna know how your Shitskin ancestors look like.
We altaic people are forefathers of shite race.

[AnatolianMongol]

*white

[Opinion Owner]

thank you for proving my point. you wanna be white so badly yet still look like a dirty iranian half dirty mongolian. bro just stfu no one likes you people. you will get bombed if you talk to us europeans like this. we are far mor superoir to you. disgusting subhuman

[AnatolianMongol]

I don't wanna be white.
Like I said before why should I wanna be something that is Lower than us. We are altaic race which is the best in the world. Also we have no job to do with Iranian sand monkeys.
You can't do shit. We are more superior than you. Just try and we will do what our ancestors did before.
You fucking Indian sperm. Indo aryan monkey.

[AnatolianMongol]

Also you are not a European too but a Jewish semitic sandmonkey

[Anonymous]

In iran and Lebanon they also have places which have similar climate to turkey

[AnatolianMongol]

But they are genetically and ethnically mid easterner.
We Turks are not mid easterner. We came from central Asia.

[Opinion Owner]

Well Turks mixed with local people from Turkey right? Middle East is geographic term even Finnish are not Scandinavian but because of geography people consider them Scandinavian.

[AnatolianMongol]

Local people in Turkey was not mid easterner either.
Local anatolians were Greeks, Armenians etc.
And before hellenizafion of anatolia. Anatolians were Indo European people like hitits, sumerians, ingush (similar people to chechens), celtics, slavs etc.

[Opinion Owner]

Armenian are middle eastern anyway it is mostly geographic term.

[Giggletr0n]

Gobble gobble motherfucker!

[AnatolianMongol]

What?

[AnatolianMongol]

OK I get it

[name_is_eric]

Geographical convenience. You are Arabs afterall.

[AnatolianMongol]

Looks like you find our weak point.
But no we are not Arab neither mid easterner.

[name_is_eric]

I was expecting a more furious response, disappointing.

If Turkey is not part of Europe or Middle East, then what is it? Caucasus?

[AnatolianMongol]

Climate of Turkey is more close to Balkans and caucasus.
We dont live in desert like rest of mid east.
But It doesn't matter Turkish people came from altai mountains in 1071. We are not natives.

[Tyffen]

Yes...

[AnatolianMongol]

No, we are not mid easterner

[Tyffen]

Hey ho, a mistletoe... You are a middle eastern country, and that is how life is...

[AnatolianMongol]

We Turks are not mid easterner.
We came from central Asia.
We have nothing to do with mid east genentically, racially, linguastically and culturally.

[Tyffen]

But do you know what you have to do with the Middle East?