So, in recent days, you may have noticed a shitstorm going down this year, of various things happening causing huge political affect. I'm here to just explain what this might mean from a political and societal standpoint.
The important thing to remember is the two main countries this has happened in; one is the US:
And the UK:
This is important because the two share a common heritage, and that's important because it's ingrained in the people's attitudes; the conservative nature, the desire for individualism and the roots of capitalism and ideology. All of these are shared in both countries because many Americans stem from British roots, and the general British conservatism has stayed with the US. Granted, a few things have been added and some have been taken away, but generally, it's a similar culture, and this explains Isolationism starting in these two countries.
Well, the drive for independence and sovereignty, and self-governance and arrogance; not wanting to help other people you barely know when you can help yourself. I.e., pragmatism. You may or may not agree with this, but I've found this to be a common reason as to why these two countries have latched onto these two earth-changing decisions. Now, other countries can and have done these things before, but these two are so mind-boggling because they've happened in what was considered previously tolerant, accepting, content societies.
There are other reasons too; ear is a huge factor, for instance, which is why a lot of people fear a Trump presidency But in the UK, people don't tend to buy into things as easily, which is why Brexit is actually a bit more complex, because politicians have had to ground themselves as solid candidates, and then start pushing towards their agenda. Throw in some lies and you have a result you want. In the US, Trump's presidency is so shocking, because of how loud he's been, so vocal, so hateful, and yet he's still be president, and no one knows where he's going with anything he says. He's unpredictable.
Whatever you think, it's safe to say the first few years of these two things are going to be tough. With money values falling, it will be hard, but don't lose hope, wherever you are, even if you're not into all this isolationism, like me. There will be a chance to try with freedom and liberalism again, because that's what politics does: one movement starts, then a reactionary forms, sometimes the reactionaries are successful (Brexit, Trump and Putin) or sometimes they fail, but politics bounces back regardless, and new movements form to push back to the way things were.
Good luck to everyone.
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Bit over dramatic. The British have been talking about leaving the EU for years and voted to do so, the main reason the British wanted out of the EU eas the cost and when the financial crisis hit British taxpayers were forced to bail out a lot of countries. there's a feeling in the UK that the EU is unaccountable and the fact that they dictate laws, immigration, trade and that the EU is one big gravy train doesn't help matters. The British people have been very vocal about this but the EU and pro EU politicians were arrogant and ignored them thinking they'd never leave.
Trump being elected is another matter I think he only got to br the Republican candidate because the Republicans thought Hillary couldn't be beat. Honestly America may need to become more isolationist and look after its own first as we have high levels of people on some form of welfare, earnings are low, we have god knows how many homeless, riots in the streets nearly every month, crime riddled neighbourhoods, gas shortages, water short ages, failing schools and low literacy rates, decaying infrastructure, a nation divided more now than in a long time and a whole range of problems. Maybe time America took a seat popped a beer and let Germany take a crack at Syria while we fix up our own house. If Trump delivers what he promises he will be elected again.
I will say one thing about Putin as I watched him for years he did warn Obama and Hillary about arming militia groups in Syria well he turned out to be right because those groups became ISIS. He's also publically stated that America keeps destabilising countries and arming terrorists which is very true.
i think the problem in this country (UK) is that we've never tried to be European, the British government has always been reluctant, and most of us can see that the referendum was a move by Cameron to sway support from UKIP to the conservatives again, a gambit which really didn't pay off for him. lot's of things infuriate me about the referendum, but i won't go into that, because i don't want to unload all that anger on you, but i do agree with your points here, and infact, i agree with trump on his war policy, the US just needs to take a chill pill, they need to get involved in relief programs, and leave the wars to the people inside that country.
I'm not so fond of Putin though.
He's great to make memes out of, but his methodology of governance is very dictatorial, and he uses his media to promote anti-west rhetoric.
(ps. the UK does have clauses in the EU, have a good day)
Putin's a dictator in his own country, are you really going to believe a dictator? As for destabilizing, the problem with that is we destroyed our best weapon against terrorism, the neutron bomb (look it up, 4 of those would have ended terrorism in an instant). Instead we are going to let China rule the world in our place, because that's exactly what's going to happen, we are never going to be number one by stepping aside.
@Idonotgivearatsass is he, that could be just western media bias and government propoganda, the recent Clinton campaign demonstrates. What I do know is that Russia is a multi racial and cultural country that doesn't have the problems America has.
America has the Rod of God supposedly, last usef in China.
@Righttobeararms83 you do realize that it's practically illegal to be homosexual in Russia right? Not only can they throw you in the Gulag (yes, they still exist) but they do. The state media, yes, I know they have private media in Russia, but just how open is it, will always paint a rosy picture. When was the last time Putin was seriously challenged for leadership in Russia? Right, he never has been (and don't give me those 4 years his chosen puppet was in charge)... if he's not a dictator in name, he certainly is in stature. Russia is run by Putin and a few close advisers, just look at his track record, and why would they give asylum to Edward Snowden... do you not think the Russian government does that exact same thing that the NSA was doing? That kind of surveillance has been going on since the first government was created... all those that were shocked must have been living under a rock, hell, I knew that shit was going and I didn't care then and still don't care.
@Idonotgivearatsass people weren't shocked mostly the media was but they always arevit was finally here was the proof we aren't all a bunch of nutjobs with tinfoil hats.
Im just saying that America has been very aggressive towards Russia surrounding them with NATO bases and economically as well, which has nothing to do with homosexuals at least I don't think. For the most part Russia is rejecting that liberal PC culture that the Obama administration represents yo know SJW, Microaggression, safe spaces and the rest
@Righttobeararms83 My personal opinion, Russia deserves to be surrounded by U. S. bases, and to be kept in economic check by us. We should have done the same damn thing to China, we should be number one in the world, but until we can control and exert pressure on those that want to challenge our superiority it will never happen.
@Idonotgivearatsass no we shouldn't have started letting china make our goods cheaper and now we try to sell our latest technology , manufacturered goods and aircraft only for China to buy a handful, reverse engineer them and build the same thing without licence. We need to stop dealing with China as does the EU and Russia.