Musings about masks

[Lliam]

Masks are symbolic of being gagged, bound, silenced and controlled.

They are obviously bondage and discipline accessories. But there is also sado-masochism involved, because they are restrictive, uncomfortable and unhealthy.

They say "I am submissive and compliant."

They mark people as members of an exclusive gang or tribe that is hostile toward non-members on the basis of fear, self-righteousness and otherness.

Masks strip people of their identity, agency and humanity by making them anonymous.

They serve to alienate people from each other. They dehumanize.

When a person wears a mask, you can't see their face. All you can see is fear, emptiness or resignation in their eyes.

Masks serve to further divorce people from nature by depriving them of the ability to tilt their face to the warm sun, close their eyes, and drink deeply of the cool, life-giving, fresh, scented air.

[JackSmy]

Amen, and "Preaching to the Choir and Believers!!"
I am looking forward to the myriad legal suits, coming, with so many legislators violating soooooo many Civil Rights, without due process!!
This whole thing was handled HORRIBLY WRONG, and over-reacting on the part of so many, not caring that they are literally DESTROYING their small businesses!!
RECORD unemployment, worst since the Great Depression!!
So much is still unknown, yet everyone is being forced to stay at home, like criminals, and NO PROOF they have the virus, without charges, without due process! How is this different than "HOUSE ARREST" except that there was no trial, no judgment of guilt of anything!!
Congress better get ready for the onslaught of legal suits, and payments for wrecking the lives and businesses of so many, on the 'best guess' of some scientists.

[Lliam]

Bingo, JackSme. Accepting the best guesses of "some" scientists while discounting studies by scientists with equal or greater expertise. Bottom line, special interests managed to control the narrative. Corruption to the core. It's surprising how few people get it.

[JackSmy]

@Lliam I am reading a book by Ben Shapiro, called Bullies, and it seems that some think he is AMAZING, but many, leftist liberals are thinking he is the new "Anti-christ"!
He is saying, that the Liberals no longer use the "Jack-Boot Thug" approach, but have embraced something like a 'loving, caring, compassionate friend" thing! They want to "protect people" and "keep them safe", uh, yeah, by taking away RIGHTS!! But to keep you safe!!

[coffeewithcream]

Good Lord.
Go celebrate your freedom and civil rights by licking some doorknobs.

[Lliam]

@coffeewithcream, you've never experienced freedom and civil rights in your short life, so your opinion is invalid. But given your disdain for those principals and your apparent credulity in regards to this so-called "pandemic", I'm guess that you are surrounded by Democrat-type liberals.

[JackSmy]

@Liam Some need to learn the hard way, and 'earn their stripes'!! We never got trophies for being the losing team, just showing up! It was REALITY! You LOST, so you try harder, work harder, and don't lose, next time!!
It's a different world, and some of these 'kids' will have some hard lessons coming, when they have to face the REAL WORLD!

[coffeewithcream]

We lost?
Who the fuck is we?
Doesn't sound like you've ever been part of the real world.

[JackSmy]

@coffeewithcream Sorry, kid, I don't have time to explain it to you! When you grow up, live a bit and realize, maybe you will understand better.
Dude, I have been alive, living in the world, dealing with life and finding my way. There was something, before, that was respect, and you obviously haven't learned that.
More mature people can teach you a lot of things, so you don't make bad mistakes, but if you think you know it all, go for it, and do whatever you do! Best wishes!!

[coffeewithcream]

You guess wrong.
My opinion, which you so casually deign "invalid," is just as valid as any decrepit old codger who assumes much and demonstrated he knows little.

[JackSmy]

@coffeewithcream Oh, and I called it right again!! You come back with nothing but a demeaning comment about being old. Yes, your opinion is less valid, as you have such minimal experience, and so few years to understand and experience things. But you KNOW EVERYTHING, right? Maybe take a few years, learn some things, and when you are 32-33, you might, suddenly realize that some of us 'old codgers' actually know what we are talking about!
It's ok, we know you are young and full of yourself, and think you know everything!! It actually is a joke, among us 'old folk' watching you struggle and fail, when we try to help and you just mock us for caring!! Peace, enjoy your struggles!!

[musicbrain5]

Then don’t wear a mask, and don’t apply for jobs at places where you need to wear a mask of any kind in some situations - like medicine, dentistry, factory work, carpentry or wood working, etc. It’s really that simple.

[Sevenpointfive]

i think you just described a gloryhole experience eloquently

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

You forgot about one thing: they prevent the spread of deadly contagions.

[MeatPuppet]

On the other hand, masks come in handy during a pandemic like COVID-19.

[pizzalovershouse]

I like the smile face virus mask

[COMMODOREII]

People make masks out to be bad. But for your health and safety wearing masks is a necessity not an inconvenience.

[Lliam]

Who says it's a necessity?

[COMMODOREII]

Covid 19

[Lliam]

Covid-19 said that?

[trickycrossiant]

His profile pic says it all

[Lliam]

@trickycrossiant, what does your profile pic say? LOL

[COMMODOREII]

Read my face. Lol

[Lliam]

@trickycrossiant, I didn't understand what you meant. Now I get it. <3

[COMMODOREII]

😂😂

[coffeewithcream]

Don't wear a mask, Lliam. You're 66 and at that age if you get a Covid-19 infection you're more likely to be seriously sick or die.
It would be nice if when someone dies their passing is mourned.
In your case the G@G community won't even know you're gone.
So keep on keepin' on.

[Lliam]

@coffeewithcream, Oh, you're speaking for the GAG community now. ROFL.
Try doing some research on the pros and cons of wearing masks and stop being a sheeple.

[COMMODOREII]

@Lliam What are your pros and cons of wearing masks. Enlighten us.

[Lliam]

@COMMODOREII "Enlighten us"? The way you asked that question sounded condescending and seems to imply that your mind is already made up. I would be happy to provide some food for thought, but I'm not interested in arguing or being treated like some kind of irrational ideologue.

[trickycrossiant]

I see a fight between a conservative and liberal 😳

[Lliam]

@trickycrossiant. Who's who? LOL
Speaking for myself, I'm definitely not a right winger but so-called liberals have become such an embarrassment over the past several years that I no longer want to be associated with that term. One group is as dumb as the other. I've also met some thoughtful people on both sides, but the most enlightened people reject labels and think for themselves. They do research, keep open minds, use their brains, and develop informed opinions that can evolve as more information becomes available. They are not guided by group think or popular opinion.
That's nothing like centrism, either. Centrism assumes a binary in which only right or left exist with shades of gray in between. But things are much more complex than that. In the end, partisan ideology is for idiots.

[trickycrossiant]

Discussion closed I think I mixed up this post with another

[coffeewithcream]

You are an irrational ideologue.

[COMMODOREII]

More like a health care professional and a lay man.

[Lliam]

Wow. The Kool Aid drinkers are really angry. Lash out! Lash out! LOL

[COMMODOREII]

We try to help and protect people from getting hurt and then people like you come around who tell people masks are no good and screw up with people's lives. It is hard enough trying to save the people around us who are dying of the disease from the first wave it is frustrating having to add more time to a person who gets the disease just because they refused to wear a mask. Its like a coward soldier who instead of fighting back at the enemy in a battle decides to shoot his own foot off just so he can get away on a stretcher. It is not right, cowardly, and stupid. If you want to catch the disease fine by me but don't think any of us will shed a tear for your incompetence.

[coffeewithcream]

:):)

[OddBeMe]

Masks also save lives in a Covid pandemic.

[trickycrossiant]

Are you okay?

[Lliam]

I'm great. Thanks for asking. How 'bout you?

[trickycrossiant]

I’m fine. Just suicidal.

[Lliam]

I hope you're not serious.

[trickycrossiant]

Ah, but I am. 😬

[Lliam]

If you want someone to talk to, please feel free to message me.

[trickycrossiant]

Okay I did, if you reply