and somehow the Trump Fundies will use this as a "poor me" I can't find work because a <insert ethnicity here>? wants my job... or.. these <insert slur here> only knows how to steal or give baby formula...
yes. my heart is broken for everyone effected, both the lives taken and the ripple effect to all grieving for them. i live in NY state and have been to concerts in buffalo. everyone in my area is shook to the core.
Then let's start with your country first if we are going to resort wiping nations off the Earth to resolve problems. Since you offer no viable solution to the problem, we all have by getting rid of your sorry asses we get rid of one useless country that serves no use in solving mankind's problems other than wiping out countries as a solution
@caitycat21 what are you talking about? This has everything to do with gun safety and control. This probably wouldn't have happened if we had better regulations surrounding guns
I don’t trust gun regulation. Look up the racist history of gun control laws * they have historically been used to unarmed minorities who just wanted to fight back against constant attacks from racists.
I don’t fw the fact that gun control would only be used to disarm the general population, meanwhile the people in government like the military and police will still be allowed to have their weapons?
This is a gun issue. The shooter had easy access to guns and equipment because the US doesn't care about stopping these events. Until this is changed shootings will continue to happen and more people will die.
@caitycat21 I never said the public shouldn't be allowed to have guns. But we need to have much better regulations... girl you're still in school practicing your maths why are you acting like you know everything?
@Echosoul I got news for ya fella, things are no better here. The only difference is. people use knives/ machetes or vans to do their killing instead of guns
@vandel again look up the racist history of gun regulations. You can’t just ignore that, also excuse yourself.. im not stupid. You will either respect me like a normal human being in this convo or leave instead of backing down for cheap ageist insults
@caitycat21 I never said you were stupid first of all, but your "argument" just proves that you don't know what you're talking about. Which is fine, you're still a kid. Also, purposely getting my name @vendela wrong is childish.
I'd also like to point out that apparently in his manifesto, he specifically stated that he chose to inact the crime in buffalo due to buffalo's strict gun control laws, thus, yielding less risk of retaliating fire.
Pleasantly surprised to see that I'm at least partially in agreement with @caitycat21, though. While I don't agree gun control is racist, I 100% support the notion that people of color should have the right to own guns for any reason at all, but especially as a defense in injustices governmental policies.
@crmoore please shut up. I’m this close to blocking you, I’m not sure what sick satisfaction you get out of spreading blatant lies about a mass shooter?
The shooter choose the neighborhood because it was the closest predominantly black neighborhood. Not sure where the hell you’re getting the gun free zone bullshit - there was literally a police officers that also had a gun on the premise so that defeats your narrative
@caitycat21 I'm blocking you after I post this, but you seriously sound like a dumb little shit. You have NO clue what you're even talking about, and yet here you acting like you have all the experience in the world on this subject. News flash kid, you don't. Now go to bed.
@caitycat12 While I don't actively want you to block me, I'm going to tell you right now "do it." I'm not the type of person to cower away or bow down at the threat of being blocked. I'm not going to censor myself for the sake of your comfort. If you want to block me, then do it. I think it's pretty ridiculous. I'm a civil person who simply disagrees with you. But that is enough to cause you to act so rashly, then by all means, do as you see fit. I guarantee I won't be changing my behavior.
And yes, entirel6 evidently the shooter explicitly wanted to kill black people. But in addition to that, he chose Buffalo due to its strict gun laws. This is not a lie.
And a police officer with a gun doesn't defeat my narrative. His rationale was that there is strict gun control, thus less guns, thus less retaliation with firearms. I didn't say "no retaliation" I said "less retaliation."
@Vendela caitycat has a very strong and valid point. The fact that you are so quick to a defensive argument proves her point and then you bring up math in school? Get a better come back and do better.
If no one steps on the right and there hate speech it’s going to get worse
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The Kid was a Fuckin Moron. He needs to be a "Hero" so he makes others into "Villans" because life revolves around him. News Flash: Life isn't a Movie.
Apparently, ''Americans'' have little energy to produce NICE and HAPPY news :( I went swimming with the dogs yesterday. So I missed all the (regular?) bloodshed in the world.
This is such a bizarre and insanely insensitive response. I’m sorry the real worlds depressing but you could’ve just not commented if you truly didn’t want to hear about news that wasn’t going to make you happy?
You misinterpreted that, young Miss. Of course it's sad to hear about people dying in YOUR fucked up society. It's just too regular to be ''shocked'' each time: that's exhausting and leads nowhere. As this is going on since decades without serious efforts (and/or results) to fix YOUR problem, YOU guys seem to accept it that way. Do something, or stay at home. When I ask for 'nice' or 'happy' news: then because I wish even ''America'' a better life.
This is good: "It's just too regular to be ''shocked'' each time: that's exhausting and leads nowhere." Because if everyone starts to feel this way, those shooters will have a very sparse audience to get negative attention from, and the stupid media will stop making headlines to gain revenue from it. This is coming from a top American security advisor "Gavin de Becker". Read his books. Guess why the guy put a camera on his person and live streamed the incident? I bet he got tons of attention and views. The national news and the world will be talking about him! I know a thirld world country where some idiots pulled of an incident like this. Their ruler, of course out of his usual negligence, refused to accept it had even happened! He totally denied and ignored it! Good for him! You know why? Because it NEVER happened again. The real criminals are the media that broadcast this s**t and make headlines to make money. Moms all know that if a child witnesses another child's bad behavior, he/she will be more likely to repeat it. A lot of times, a mother will hide the bad behavior, not go and shout it from rooftops.
Caity: Elsewhere, murder happens as an exception. In the U. S. its: ''Oh! Just another one''. The victims don't care if it was ''racism'', going to school, etc. - they are now dead. And they don't NEED to be dead. Other places indeed have a share in violence. Just not that regularly. Beautifulmind: Indeed, many crimes happen because someone lacks attention. And your opinion on media vultures - I share it.
Are you stupid. Of course the victims care that the crime was racist, the only reason why he shot up the place was because it was a low income majority black neighborhood. You’re a dense one
The victims are dead. They are beyond this world now. Perhaps you think of the ones left behind as 'victims'; but are they 'victims'?: they just happen to be left behind. I might have said something similar to what you said just now in my own young days - admitted. I don't think that I'm ''dense'' ( :) ) I just lost some illusions and ''ideals'' over the decades. You may get to that point yourself... perhaps. This world is a fucking shitty one. No pink sunglasses will adjust that. Again: I don't ''want'' that, either. But to adjust it, it would require some mass murder on those who ACTUALLY are the thugs. So I repeat: DO SOMETHING !
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and somehow the Trump Fundies will use this as a "poor me" I can't find work because a <insert ethnicity here>? wants my job... or.. these <insert slur here> only knows how to steal or give baby formula...
I saw something about a shooting, but know nothing on thr details.
I don't watch the news very often
I did yes, and there is no doubt in my mind he should hang for his crimes!
Yeah, he's a Tukkker Carlson deciple.
Lol yeah
The world is going nuts. So many people are losing their sanity. What is stirring this up? The news? Social media?
yes. my heart is broken for everyone effected, both the lives taken and the ripple effect to all grieving for them. i live in NY state and have been to concerts in buffalo. everyone in my area is shook to the core.
Well in the UK, Guns are rare so shootings are rare too.
But murder isn’t
@Pterodon there’s a very large difference between murder and mass shootings, literally. This sort of thing almost never happens in UK.
@snowboarder720 out of 330 million it rare but sensationalized here
I think he got arrested and will be put on trial like anyone who breaks the law and dosen't have Clinton or Bush as a last name
America should just be wiped off the face of the Earth.
And we will start with your family first since you want to wipe America that is if you are even an American
@DARKCLOUD1945X I'm not thankfully
Then let's start with your country first if we are going to resort wiping nations off the Earth to resolve problems. Since you offer no viable solution to the problem, we all have by getting rid of your sorry asses we get rid of one useless country that serves no use in solving mankind's problems other than wiping out countries as a solution
@DARKCLOUD1945X sure we launch the nukes as soon as you do so let's kiss this shit planet goodbye
Everything must burn
LMAO the everything solution
Just another day in america of guns making us safer. 🙄
Just another day in the UK of gun control laws making us safer. 🙄
www.indiatvnews.com/.../six-killed-including-suspected-shooter-united-kingdom-plymouth-latest-international-news-updates-crime-news-updates-726171
Please don’t turn a tragic event into a gun argument. It’s very insensitive to the families who’ve lost their loved ones to a violent hate crime
@caitycat21 what are you talking about? This has everything to do with gun safety and control. This probably wouldn't have happened if we had better regulations surrounding guns
I don’t trust gun regulation. Look up the racist history of gun control laws * they have historically been used to unarmed minorities who just wanted to fight back against constant attacks from racists.
I don’t fw the fact that gun control would only be used to disarm the general population, meanwhile the people in government like the military and police will still be allowed to have their weapons?
That’s a perfect dystopian future right there.
This is a gun issue. The shooter had easy access to guns and equipment because the US doesn't care about stopping these events. Until this is changed shootings will continue to happen and more people will die.
@caitycat21 I never said the public shouldn't be allowed to have guns. But we need to have much better regulations... girl you're still in school practicing your maths why are you acting like you know everything?
@Echosoul I got news for ya fella, things are no better here. The only difference is. people use knives/ machetes or vans to do their killing instead of guns
It's very easy to kill numerous people with guns. Possible with other things but more difficult. You can't bring a van into a cinema.
@vandel again look up the racist history of gun regulations. You can’t just ignore that, also excuse yourself.. im not stupid. You will either respect me like a normal human being in this convo or leave instead of backing down for cheap ageist insults
@Echosoul No true, but the scumbags who look to murder will just arm themselves with a bomb!
Pretty rare and harder to conceal. When guns are given out they don't even need to be hidden.
@caitycat21 I never said you were stupid first of all, but your "argument" just proves that you don't know what you're talking about. Which is fine, you're still a kid. Also, purposely getting my name @vendela wrong is childish.
I'd also like to point out that apparently in his manifesto, he specifically stated that he chose to inact the crime in buffalo due to buffalo's strict gun control laws, thus, yielding less risk of retaliating fire.
Pleasantly surprised to see that I'm at least partially in agreement with @caitycat21, though. While I don't agree gun control is racist, I 100% support the notion that people of color should have the right to own guns for any reason at all, but especially as a defense in injustices governmental policies.
as a defense to unjust*
@crmoore please shut up. I’m this close to blocking you, I’m not sure what sick satisfaction you get out of spreading blatant lies about a mass shooter?
The shooter choose the neighborhood because it was the closest predominantly black neighborhood. Not sure where the hell you’re getting the gun free zone bullshit - there was literally a police officers that also had a gun on the premise so that defeats your narrative
@caitycat21 I'm blocking you after I post this, but you seriously sound like a dumb little shit. You have NO clue what you're even talking about, and yet here you acting like you have all the experience in the world on this subject. News flash kid, you don't. Now go to bed.
Lmao your only argument is “arg I’m angry a stupid kid uses more common sense than me” lol, gladly block me please
@caitycat12 While I don't actively want you to block me, I'm going to tell you right now "do it." I'm not the type of person to cower away or bow down at the threat of being blocked. I'm not going to censor myself for the sake of your comfort. If you want to block me, then do it. I think it's pretty ridiculous. I'm a civil person who simply disagrees with you. But that is enough to cause you to act so rashly, then by all means, do as you see fit. I guarantee I won't be changing my behavior.
And yes, entirel6 evidently the shooter explicitly wanted to kill black people. But in addition to that, he chose Buffalo due to its strict gun laws. This is not a lie.
And a police officer with a gun doesn't defeat my narrative. His rationale was that there is strict gun control, thus less guns, thus less retaliation with firearms. I didn't say "no retaliation" I said "less retaliation."
@Vendela caitycat has a very strong and valid point. The fact that you are so quick to a defensive argument proves her point and then you bring up math in school?
Get a better come back and do better.
If no one steps on the right and there hate speech it’s going to get worse
The Kid was a Fuckin Moron. He needs to be a "Hero" so he makes others into "Villans" because life revolves around him. News Flash: Life isn't a Movie.
That's America for you.
Come to Canada which has none of this crap.
Except that there is a huge inquest going on about precisely this in Nova Scotia.
Are you forgetting y’all had truckers a few months ago?
With Nazi flags and everything and they were blocking up ports
Apparently, ''Americans'' have little energy to produce NICE and HAPPY news :(
I went swimming with the dogs yesterday. So I missed all the (regular?) bloodshed in the world.
This is such a bizarre and insanely insensitive response. I’m sorry the real worlds depressing but you could’ve just not commented if you truly didn’t want to hear about news that wasn’t going to make you happy?
You misinterpreted that, young Miss. Of course it's sad to hear about people dying in YOUR fucked up society. It's just too regular to be ''shocked'' each time: that's exhausting and leads nowhere. As this is going on since decades without serious efforts (and/or results) to fix YOUR problem, YOU guys seem to accept it that way. Do something, or stay at home.
When I ask for 'nice' or 'happy' news: then because I wish even ''America'' a better life.
This is good: "It's just too regular to be ''shocked'' each time: that's exhausting and leads nowhere." Because if everyone starts to feel this way, those shooters will have a very sparse audience to get negative attention from, and the stupid media will stop making headlines to gain revenue from it. This is coming from a top American security advisor "Gavin de Becker". Read his books. Guess why the guy put a camera on his person and live streamed the incident? I bet he got tons of attention and views. The national news and the world will be talking about him!
I know a thirld world country where some idiots pulled of an incident like this. Their ruler, of course out of his usual negligence, refused to accept it had even happened! He totally denied and ignored it! Good for him! You know why? Because it NEVER happened again. The real criminals are the media that broadcast this s**t and make headlines to make money. Moms all know that if a child witnesses another child's bad behavior, he/she will be more likely to repeat it. A lot of times, a mother will hide the bad behavior, not go and shout it from rooftops.
Wtf do you mean by You? This kind of crap happens everywhere
Racism isn’t confined by borders
I meant the shootings. Of course racism happens everywhere.
Caity: Elsewhere, murder happens as an exception. In the U. S. its: ''Oh! Just another one''.
The victims don't care if it was ''racism'', going to school, etc. - they are now dead. And they don't NEED to be dead.
Other places indeed have a share in violence. Just not that regularly.
Beautifulmind: Indeed, many crimes happen because someone lacks attention. And your opinion on media vultures - I share it.
Are you stupid. Of course the victims care that the crime was racist, the only reason why he shot up the place was because it was a low income majority black neighborhood. You’re a dense one
The victims are dead. They are beyond this world now.
Perhaps you think of the ones left behind as 'victims'; but are they 'victims'?: they just happen to be left behind.
I might have said something similar to what you said just now in my own young days - admitted.
I don't think that I'm ''dense'' ( :) ) I just lost some illusions and ''ideals'' over the decades. You may get to that point yourself... perhaps.
This world is a fucking shitty one. No pink sunglasses will adjust that.
Again: I don't ''want'' that, either. But to adjust it, it would require some mass murder on those who ACTUALLY are the thugs.
So I repeat: DO SOMETHING !
Survivors guilt is a thing.. you seriously need to shut up if you have no idea what you’re talking about
Trying to sound all philosophical is just making you look even worst
I suppose that YOU know it best :D Thanks for educating me.
Passive aggressiveness is immature
Heard about that incident yesterday, I have to say it terrible and sad.
Awful 😞. Though not that surprising coming from the states.
The mass shootings are a fairly regular occurrence due to guns being easily accessible.
He never see the light of day my and when he gets to be population the black will be kill him
I have no idea what you’re even trying to say but I have a sneaking suspicion that’s a good thing
He had a lot of hate going on there in his head and was planning another attack
yeah
They should have let him blow his brains out. It would save our government money and put the guy behind bars for the rest of his life.
It was all over the news this weekend. Would you agree that the gunman deserves the death penalty?