Why is Amber Heard so unheard?

[invalid1]

There just seems to be huge trend of hatred against Amber Heard and lies accusations.

This doesn't seem rational to me. It's not like this is not a close battle! in fact if you see the trails, it's fierce and equal sided battle (to my opinion). I like the lawyers, I like Johnny , I like Amber, I like the judge, in terms of their compliance and search of justice and truth!

What I don't like! is the outpouring insanity and hatred towards Amber, whom even if she's lying did not even get close to defame her ex-husband. And it also reflects how the world is so full of mad crazies, it's not like the public opinion is even split. And what makes everyone so sure that Amber meant to defame and that she's 100% lying in all 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Verdict is today. I appreciate every opinion, you all were very wise. However in social media the ridicule and prejudice, and passion and anger is quite creepy. It tells you a lot on human behaviour, like why did the Mayans rally by thousands to watch human sacrifice when they got nothing useful from it.(by the way I am a huge fan of Johnny Depp and his works)

[MrOracle]

Amber had OVERWHELMING support when she first came forward with her accusations - so much so that Johnny was completely blackballed from Hollywood and from all but one of his endorsement deals.

But then evidence began being released, and once people heard Amber's own words, and saw the videos and pictures, and read the depositions - even from her own witnesses - it's obvious to everyone that Amber has lied about everything and continued to do so all the way through the trial. Not a single expert - not police detectives, not domestic abuse specialists, not behavior analysts, and not actual abuse victims believe her - in fact, they all recognize her behavior as that of an abuser, not a victim.

The biggest criticism of her comes from women who are victims of domestic abuse, who see their own behavior in Johnny, and their abuser's behavior in Amber - and many of them started off as Amber supporters.

This isn't about women hating, it's about Amber's behavior, her own words, and her ever-changing stories. Johnny's story has never changed, and dozens of witnesses, including most of Johnny's ex's, and even friends and employees of Amber, all defend Johnny and don't support Amber's testimony. Amber's own witnesses have been detrimental to her story. Hell, Amber even claimed that she used a specific make-up kit, that her lawyers made a big show about in court, to hide these alleged bruises - only to have the makeup company Tweet that they had no such product until 2 years after the incident.

Amber has a past of domestic violence, having police called in several instances and having one actual arrest, prior to even meeting Johnny. Depp has never even had an accusation - he's universally praised as being kind, nice, and gentle.

But you can do your own research. The trial footage is all available on YouTube, as well as plenty of expert analysis. If you watch it, you will see everything I've mentioned and much more. It's all a few clicks away.

[Wsx2wsx2ws]

Dude that was an awesome reveal. I don't follow the drama but this sums it up nice and drama free. Have to say thank you.

[Anonymous]

I say do what you are doing. Like Johnny, Like Amber and continue liking people just like you are doing. Don't let this drama taint your ability to like people. We all do stupid things. I know this about myself for sure. I do my best not to use anything some one does as judgment to just toss them away. One bad part does not negate all the good parts.

SO I love the way you worded your question. I personally don't care about the trial. This is about and between Amber and Johnny.

[Opinion Owner]

I thought I might add today's experience to this because I think it relates well. On arriving at work I see a disaster before a machine we use to control waste. I am appalled at how lazy and inconsiderate people are. Why can't they just put the tiniest bit of effort into anything. I walk away very grumpy by the vision. Then another employee comes over and says "Hay! you are really mechanically inclined, can you figure out what is wrong with that machine, the trash is backing up."
I was cut to the heart. I was judging before I know all the facts. All the people I work with are fantastic but there I was judging them all without knowing. It reminded me of your question. So point is. Keep loving people even when you think they are wrong. It might just be you in the wrong and that bit of extra understanding might bounce back at you in your favor.

[invalid1]

Thank you so much

[Jabberjaw]

It's not an equal battle, but she has some good lawyers doing their job. Speak with clear conviction and make their case strongly while framing the argument.

Amber Heard is getting a fair trial and listening to what her lawyers tell her. There's just a lot of shit against her in my opinion that it's obvious she lied.

Like in my heart of hearts do I feel it's possible he's ever crossed the line and hit her at least one time? Especially with her pushing for physical altercations? Yes, but only because he's human and the idea sounds plausible from that perspective

But there's just no evidence he ever physically did anything to her on any level and even her lawyer in the final closing rebuttal attempted to broaden "abuse" to include every form not just physical because he knows they have zero evidence of any kind that he did something physical.

Like if you've watched the case she has been caught in multiple lies at this point. If I'm on that jury, just looking at evidence I can say "well those texts sound bad like someone who might get violent" but it's never followed with signs of actual violence

While there's clear evidence of her getting physical, him leaving, plus the story of his abusive home life where the exact same pattern took place. Girl gets violent. Leave the room. That passes the sniff test and is in line with the accounts of his demeanor as described by literally everyone except Amber.

Random strangers always have the same accounts. He was chill. She wasn't. He had marks. She didn't. It's just clear as day she lied and is the true abuser. There's too many events where her testimony doesn't match the evidence or testimony of multiple third parties.

She damned herself with a lot of lies, a lot of texts she send, a lot of voice recordings of her and a lot of stories that don't match. Alongside acting over the top in court. Pretends to be scared when he walks past but giggles maniacally when hearing audio of her talking about shit she did to him

[crossdressingrihno]

I can't remember if Amber Heard attempted to cheat on Johnny Depp with Elon musk or actually did cheat on Johnny Depp with Elon musk but either way she did cheat or at least attempt to. I believe she said she never hurt Johnny Depp which then she said that she hit Johnny Depp but tried to gaslight him in the middle of the court case I know about this because there was an audio recording I heard I think there's also a video with it but I don't know.

And sure Johnny Depp didn't lose much Fame because of this but he did lose his part in the upcoming pirates of the Caribbean movie and I think he lost other parts as well I don't remember.

So we know she's light at least once we know she's cheated on Johnny Depp or at least attempted to and we know Johnny Depp has actually lost financial opportunities because of Amber Heard. I believe it was proven that both sides abused each other at least emotionally I don't think they've ever proven that Johnny Depp has ever hit Amber Heard.


Honestly I don't really care about this case the only reason I know what I know is because this crap keeps showing up and it's gotten to the point where it's nearly impossible for me to not know about it.

[Kaneki05]

It's funny people think they know what truly happened when two sides were said that both equally could be true. And people just seem to be glossing over the fact Johnny is heavy drug user and alcoholic like that means nothings to the chance he could of easily been abusive.
I will never state who's right or wrong because how on earth would I know. All I know is he is a drug addict/alcoholic and she is a woman claimed of been abusive who has been now twice when she broke her Ex's arm but also Elon never said she was also her Ex but she also has a Bpd which would actually make of a high risk of been a victim than an abuser. So who knows.

[invalid1]

agree

[Moose304]

The primary problem with your statement is you have to remember Johnny Depp has been abusing chemicals most of his adult life. he has been in many relationships other than with Amber. NOT a single one of those women has come forward saying he has harmed them. Let's also remember it is actually Amber herself that was arrested at that airport and spent the night in jail for assault. Keep these facts in mind.

[Kaneki05]

@Moose304 Actually one his ex's did say he threw bottles, along side backed up amber so get fact checked there.

[Kaneki05]

Ellen Barkin*

[Moose304]

I don't think you can say one example of throwing bottles is anywhere near physically abusing a wife. Sorry, I will NEVER agree with that!

[Kaneki05]

@Moose304 Throwing bottles at your girlfriend isn't abuse you need help sir.

[Moose304]

Let me add this. I have NEVER EVER harmed a female. I did once get angry at a lady and threw a bottle of beer against the wall. You can't equate these two situations. There is just no bridge there.

[Kaneki05]

@Moose304 He didn't just at the wall he threw it at her. Along with the fact of just throwing at the wall could harm her anyway and is a clear sign of anger issues. So you need help anyway, then on top of the fact depp was taking drugs and drunk so it makes all more dangerous.
Stop with your point because you are just wrong here.

[Moose304]

Oh, I was not thinking clearly. That bottle-throwing comment was made by Ellen Barkin. Ellen might well be the one person, in this case, nuttier than Amber Heard. Let me also add to this the fact Johnny was not showing anger toward Ellen, he was in a heated argument with another person. GO READ the actual comments made by Ellen before you call me wrong!

[Kaneki05]

@Moose304 shrugs still a problem if your a alcoholic druggie who likes chucking bottles. If you see that as not a problem then your the only insane one here.

[MCheetah]

You really must be a male feminist if you truly believe Amber Heard is the innocent one here.

I really don't much about this case, but everyone on YouTube won't shut up about it. It's pretty obvious how much Heard is lying. I don't even think Depp is innocent, but there's a huge difference between a beaten and broken individual and a massive manipulator. Plus, if trash websites and the mainstream media are defending anyone, like they are Heard, I automatically assume they're guilty. These are the same people who said Alec Baldwin was innocent in killing that woman like he did.

"even if she's lying did not even get close to defame her ex-husband."
She literally just admitted she did...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-3--qfj5KDU

This isn't even a criminal case. It's celebrities fighting over money. Why are you hardcore simping like this?

[FilmGuy93]

I mean... the most charitable reading of facts that anyone (who's being honest with you) could give you is that Depp and Heard had a wildly unhealthy relationship where Amber is provably committing regular acts of profound physical and emotional violence towards Johnny.

On the other hand, absolutely none of Amber's claims can even be remotely substantiated and she's even been found to have lied on several occasions. Even if half of what Amber is saying actually happened, the relationship was a disaster. The problem is that Amber can't evidence any of her claims, and it's not like this stuff isn't provable. If Johnny did what she's accusing him of doing, believe me; there would be medical records and stuff that she could point to.

With all due respect, I'm not sure how you could look at the trial and say it was a close case.

[TonyV]

So you don't care about her attemp to defame just cause it failed?

That's like saying I don't care that someone shot at me just cause they have shitty aim and missed.

We care about the intention not the outcome, she intended to ruin this man, she intended to harm him, she just sucks at it.

I would great if she gets destroyed in court to set an example that is OK for men to come forward about this stuff.

It's an important message, she's accusing JOHNNY MOTHERFUCKING DEPP... and still people like you assume he did wrong, when she has a record of domestic violence. Could you image if she was doing this to someone not famous? She would have ruined a normal guy, hell she ruined a lot of his income, tried to convince company's that stuck by him that they shouldn't, is trying to take his wealth and is costing him big bucks to defend himself.

Fuck Amber turd.

[genericname85]

just watch the trial. watch the depositions and make your own opinion. i think it would be very weird for someone to watch it all and not to come to this conclusion, cause she's so obviously fake and self contradictory. and the only one that has medically verified evidence of ever being "injured" is johnny, not amber. she claimed her nose was broken but when it was pointed out that she has no medical record of that, she suddenly claimed "well it felt like it". she's just a slick liar.

i believe johnny does have problems with alcohol and he probably has damaged his own property in anger at times. but i don't believe he ever put a hand on a woman.

[genericname85]

there's photos of her having bruises but she also had a freudian slip where she said she was using bruise kits, which is make up to fake bruises, not to hide bruises as she claimed.

[genericname85]

she even blamed her own defense atorneys of hiding evidence that she produced. that's how fucking crazy of a liar she is.

[Moose304]

Amber Heard is only a victim of a serious mental illness. EVERY single female I know is against Amber. I am busy right now but if you will look for it you will see part of Ambers cross by Camille where she basically said everybody is telling lies but me. The ex TMZ producer, Johnnys ex Girl Friend Kate Moss, the manager of the trailer park, I can go on and on. When you stop looking at this with a feminist passion and look at the facts they simply DO NOT support Amber. Also, take note of something DR Curry ( Dr. Muffins) said on the stand the other day. Amber heard scored one of the highest scores she has seen on the PTSD screening test that is designed to catch lies. I am not a mental health professional, but I do know several people that are. Some of these tests and assessments have safeguards built into them to help cull liars out. Amber failed one of these miserably. I suggest anybody who after this trial is still supporting Amber go back and review all the testimony.

[Moose304]

Just a side note. I am also not a big fan of Depp. I have no use for all of the substance abuse he has engaged in. I suspect this is why some of his relationships have ended. I just based on what I have seen there is NOTHING to support Amber Heards accounts of DV. Oh, one last thing. I would find for Johnny in both cases and award him $1.

[historectomy]

she put forth literal tons of fake "proof" and even went as far as to go around and "leak" her proof to multiple news outlets and then when it came out she continued to abuse him and gas light him and say he was abusive to her while she cheated on him, shit in his bed, and cut off his finger, and if that isn't enough she is just such a shitty person to the people around her too, there is a reason that most of her friends have not come forth in the trial to say it was johnny even they knew she was lying and is manipulative, she is just an all around shit person honestly

[invalid1]

Cheating on him, and sitting on his bed is irrelevant to domestic violence. cheating doesn't justify violence, she cheated? divorce her! that's it.

The core and essence of this trail and social case study doesn't revolve around who is a better person! it revolves around whether actually there has been domestic violence or was she lying, and whether she meant to defame her or just wanted to inspire actual victims.

There has been a lot of irrelevant nonsense in the court to entertain and direct attention of the public, which has no relation to evidence of who is the abuser and the main charge that is defamation.

[historectomy]

why did you ignore the part where i said she chopped off his finger lol, not to mention the multiple photos of him with bruises and the dozens of eyewitnesses that have come out and said she is emotionally and physically abusive, and everyone with a brain can see how much johnny has went through, if you want to be insensitive that is fine but at least have some facts, and the cherry on top the pictures amber took, of her with bruises have all been proven to be makeup and let's not even get started on her lies with charity

[historectomy]

the whole point of the trial is to show that johnny has always been innocent and not just innocent but a victim of what he was accused of, if you have been watching the trial and don't see how one sided it is then i don't know what to tell you

[invalid1]

I am with you, I understand from my conclusion that she is a vulgar girl who wanted to give him the "tough love", and fill his life with adventurous fights and jeopardy, just to engage him away from drug and alcohol abuse - according to her - You can tell just from the knife she's given him, that she got into this marriage with war intents. but what makes us so sure that the finger cut off was from self defence! or whether he harmed himself. There was a witness who said he throws bottles and gets angry after drinks. Plus, in front of the baseless claim that she cut off his finger, there's a baseless claim that he raped her with a bottle. Still I have big faith in the court in the coming verdict.

[historectomy]

everyone reacts differently when they are angry the big thing is not a single person has come with proof that he ever hit her, but lots of proof she has hit him, there is also evidence of him thinking he hurt her toe so he bent down cause he was worried and she smashed a door into his face, she is obviously the abuser and after this case i hope all pf her "friends" get the sense to stop associating with her it can't be good for them either

[WhitneySnow]

I believe what Johnny said about her. I’m def Team Johnny and so are all my friends. They say Amber is a gold-digger and an abuser. Why do you think she didn’t do it?

[invalid1]

I thought probably she knew she's a horrible person, so she wanted to redeem that by "representing abuse victims".

But that certainly came out on the expense of Johnny's reputation, Did she maliciously
mean that or did she not? I can't tell from just knowing she's bad. the jury will decide with their available evidences. and in all cases he comes out even more popular, any next movie he will do is gonna be more eye catching. lol

[melanieeeB]

Cause the evidence is clear and she has already lied multiple times on stand

[invalid1]

that did happen. And I agree with those who say she should face punishment for lying under oath.

[melanieeeB]

Yeah I agree

[shadowarrior99]

She lies all the time during the trial. She photoshop photos and she put makeup on her and make it look like she had bruises. You see her taking notes during the trial? She's not even writing anything. So much more and a behavior analyst can tell by her body language how much she is lying. Johnny has been kind and respectful even though he's been abused. There is Injustice that should be brought to Amber.

[Luopio27]

Because she is not a Hollywood A lister. If it wasn't for Aguaman I wouldn't have noticed her, correction, if it wasn't for this trial, she would never have been equal to depp in fame. Even with this court case, no matter how it ends, there is no way to go back to normal life.

[EssenceOfLight]

Perjury is sever crime and she did it. If US wasn't such retarded banana republic, state attorney or federal prosecution would start immediately a process against her because of perjury and fake evidences she presented in this process.
It's not about sympathy or antipathy, it's about the law.

[monkeynutts]

I'm disappointed with both of them, I was a Johnny fan, but if he only makes crappy pirate movies from here on, I probably will never watch another film he is in. Amber seems very silly to me, otherwise I'm not interested in their private lives.

[invalid1]

It's true, although I admit disappointing not to have another pirate movie. Depp specifically used to always be behind the screen living through his characters. Perhaps their Holywood generation is over

[exitseven]

I never herd of her before all this. Then I found out she was in Aquaman. She is probably a self absorbed, morally bankrupt attention seeking whore with a drug problem.

[Lynzerilee]

Preserve your sympathy for her for when you find yourself in an abusive relationship

[Beatrix7]

she's a liar

[KrakenAttackin]

There is no way a California jury and judge will award Depp any significant sum.

[invalid1]

But if I may ask, how is drug possession not a felony in the US. I mean shouldn't the state punish both for using Cocain? or they're legalised?

[KrakenAttackin]

@invalid1. This is a civil court not a criminal court. Theoretically they could be charged if they admit to drug use but it won't happen.

[invalid1]

Very clear but how does the state tolerate public admitting of drug possession. Suppose they have issues with the police who shake both their hands eventually and strangely enough.

And also if I may have one more question, do jurors have a law related career or is it just whoever applies goes for it? Because they have a heavy weight in the court room, more than the judge, they even stand up towards them before adjourning.

[KrakenAttackin]

It requires a prosecutor to pursue drug charges, and I guarantee none will in California. As for the jury, anyone of voting age who is a citizen can be called for jury duty. There is a process called voir dire (jury selection) where the pool of jurors is widdled down to 12. Usually those with legal training are removed from the pool as the attorneys don't want any preconceived notions by the jurors. Jury selection and psychology are big business.

[msc545]

You cannot prosecute someone for admitting anything unless you also have other evidence, and the police don't care in this case. The jurors are just randomly selected people.

[grega239]

"you're a man. No one is going to believe you"

Thats why.

[Beatrix7]

ure sorta right in away some people dont beileve men but i only dont beileve men when i see it in them thats why when i have a boyfriend i watch every move nd word nd action to watch what kind of man they are and if there lying thats my talent its happend to me to much thats how i found out mz last ex when u get the feeling in a gut what h them but ano what you mean a lot of women dont beileve men but i can see it in them if they are lyiers because am not a lying women why lie it causes nothing but troubld if am wrong awl admit it but she's a stupid lying tramp

[Finum]

how do people actually agee with amber turn lmao. nobody is hating on women, just actually watch the trial and stop tryna be a snowflake