What do you think of Tesla Dealerships being vandalized?

[AviatorTom]

Tesla dealerships in various cities across the US have been vandalized, with buildings and vehicles firebombed and damaged. There are also reports of individual Tesla vehicles and their owners being harassed.

Reports imply that left-wing liberals are doing this in protest against Elon Musk, Tesla CEO, and his involvement with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

Note that the majority of Tesla owners (and EVs in general) are liberals, so are these attacks counterproductive?

What do you think?

[WhiteSteve]

I mean…. it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy🤣🤣🤣

Obviously, I don’t endorse it. I GET IT, but I don’t endorse it.

We’re at a scary point in the country where I think people actually think DOGE is just trimming fat, and that that money will land back in our own pockets, which is very clearly NOT what is happening and not what this whole exercise is about. That’s what they’re TELLING US it’s about, of course, but don’t fall for it, and don’t fall for it if you get a four-figure check in the mail as some supposed refund. The entire thing is shady and being done with nefarious intentions. Even if you get a short-term gain, we all lose in the long run. This administration exists to make us all slaves to corporations, we’re in the middle of an oligarchic coup.

So Elon absolutely IS an enemy of the citizens of the United States, and he SHOULD be the target of ire and repercussions. But blowing stuff up is what “they” want us to do. That’s a page in their playbook, act out of line until someone can’t take it anymore and does something drastic, and then use that drastic response to demonize opposition to their scheme, even if the opposition is in the right in principle.

Same thing we see with police brutality. Act in a way that OF COURSE evokes an explosive response, and then claim that explosive response to be part of a greater overall M. O. that necessitated the initial head-cracking in the first place, and basic blame-shift to the victim (s) or the support movement behind them. It’s dirty as fuck, but unfortunately people are idiots and fall for it.

[Dongie]

It sure couldn't. The ones responsible will spend most if not all of the rest of their lives in prison. 😂

[WhiteSteve]

@Dongie why are you rooting for authoritarianism, man? That’s so weird

[Dongie]

I see a country not so polarized by the actions of the left. This is the goal. You can call it whatever you like but the fact is their are those on the left that will have it fully their way or no peace in the land. That's authoritarian at its core.

[WhiteSteve]

@Dongie but the left’s intentions are good and humanitarian. The right’s are not. How is this even a discussion? What the left does is good for people, what the right does is bad for people. It’s the whole reason I’m on the left.

[Dongie]

That's your problem, Steve. You wipe away half the country for YOUR beliefs. That sounds awfully close to fascism.

[WhiteSteve]

@Dongie There are certain things in life that are beyond “matter of opinion” and “to each their own”, and should be universal understandings. Human rights are at the top of the list. How in the world do you justify giving some certain demographic of whatever sort a hard time, or at least passively accepting it, allowing for it, or enabling it?

Some teacher in Idaho was forced to take down a sign in her classroom that says “Everyone is welcome here”, with a bunch of hands with different skin tones. Was told that that might not be everybody’s opinion. Are you fucking kidding me? It was a school district thing, not a government edict, but it’s the climate that’s being created in this country, especially in red states. That’s disgusting.

Please explain to me why that’s ok, and we should instead just be like “Welp, some people think we should be segregated, maybe even ethnically cleansed🤷‍♂️” Is that a message that should be sent to children? The kids will notice it’s gone. Why would foster this sort of social attitude? So we don’t upset ignorant white parents?

I’m not trying to wipe anyone away, we’re all supposed to be in this together, but some things are objective character shortcomings that we need to self-police in our society, because our society is worse for it if we don’t. It’s not one of those things we should just shrug our shoulders at and let slide, it affects people’s lives, directly, indirectly, and just kind contributes to a cumulative effect that makes America a worse place to live in, especially for people who DON’T look like me.

I just don’t understand how you can reasonably argue FOR a lot of these social positions the right holds without being bigoted or lacking empathy in some way. And most of the things they’re against are absolutely harmless, they just don’t like them, so they manufacture reasons to SAY they’re harmful🙄

[Dongie]

As in everything, you have context. Each presents different outcomes. The left, your side, has for years forced things upon society. I'm not going to get into what's wrong with the democrats. That is evident on a daily basis. But one thing is clear. The attacks on the Tesla dealerships and the people who own a Tesla vehicle are targeted by the ones voting in your sector. Just like the riots of 20, all destruction and violence come from democrats. Name one violent act by Republicans over the past 10 years. You present yourself as the party of tolerance but you don't know the first thing about live and let live. It's your way or violence. There is no place in America for folks such as this. And another thing. You Democrat voters are the enablers to all the corruption being discovered by Musk and company.

[Dongie]

For you to understand my opinion of democrats would take some doing. You folks on the left have pushed, clawed, burned, looted, murdered, attempted assassination, committed voter fraud, and the list goes on to get this country very far left. It's plain to see why your side is so hated.

[WhiteSteve]

@Dongie Yeah, I get context and nuance and all that, but…. what is being forced on you? Civil rights? I just don’t understand why people object to other people getting rights or having their rights actively protected when necessary. I’m not trying to throw around insults here, but it’s hard to understand what the objection to that could be besides “I want these people to continue to be discriminated against and deal with societal disadvantages.” If you have another good-faith defense for it, I’m all ears.

The only intolerance is of intolerance itself. People’s unprovoked and unwarranted intolerance of other people is my only target. And again, that’s not something that anyone should really objectively be reasonably arguing in favor of. Again, all ears as to why we SHOULD.

“Name one violent act by Republicans over the past 10 years“

Uhhhhhhh, January 6th? Let me guess: “fake news”🙄🤦‍♂️

I’m all for living and letting live. I don’t like hunting, I could never kill an animal unless I was surviving in the wilderness. But if that’s your thing, knock yourself out, I’m not going to stand in your way. I have a great sense of humor, you can call something “gay” or “retarded” and I’m not going to give you the stink-eye and lecture you. Don’t believe in the blue-haired college feminazi stereotypes, man, that’s not most of us.

Elon isn’t up to what you think he is. And at best, he’s proved no corruption (needs to go through courts to be called such), and just because they don’t like what the money is being spent on and it doesn’t align with their agenda doesn’t make it fraud.

[WhiteSteve]

@Dongie caught your second post late. You are either TREMENDOUSLY misinformed or TREMENDOUSLY dishonest to assert those things. Trump got shot at by a right winger, and a former Trump voter was angling for another shot. Civil unrest after George Floyd was justified. What went too far, went too far, but the spirit of the protest was correct. Looting was committed by idiot opportunists, not genuine protesters. Not sure who you claim has been murdered. Voter fraud has been thoroughly debunked and is at this point embarrassing to keep claiming. You sound neck deep in conspiracy theories

[Dongie]

“I want these people to continue to be discriminated against and deal with societal disadvantages.”
What's that quote about? Who said it?

“Name one violent act by Republicans over the past 10 years“

Uhhhhhhh, January 6th? Let me guess: “fake news”🙄🤦‍♂️
Not fake, set-up to distract from the theft of the election. Traitorous!



"Elon isn’t up to what you think he is. And at best, he’s proved no corruption (needs to go through courts to be called such), and just because they don’t like what the money is being spent on and it doesn’t align with their agenda doesn’t make it fraud." No, it doesn't need to be approved by the corrupt Obama appointed judges to be carried out. Fraud has a wide brush. So many billions are already uncovered, and they're just getting started. When folks start getting arrested, then you'll see what your side represents.

[Dongie]

You either believe all the (left-wing) MSM tells you, or you are just being a "good little liberal" for the cause by passing on that bullshit.

[Dongie]

Neither of those assassins was with us. Left-wingers all the way. Steve Scalise. Do you remember him?

[WhiteSteve]

@Dongie yeah, you’re neck-deep. I can’t, man. If you ever come back to live in actual reality on Earth 1, we can talk. I can’t debate against outright fallacies and delusion.

[Dongie]

Run along, little soldier. Everything I've said is fact. Check it out.

[Dongie]

We can be friends as long as we don't talk politics. I don't need accusations and lessons in civility, and I'll not give lessons on them unless asked.

[AviatorTom]

@WhiteSteve You sound like Jimmy Kimmel. During his monologue, he told people not to vandalize Tesla, the audience laughed, and he smiled.

[MisterWack]

80 Teslas vandalized in Canada in the biggest vandalizing of cars in Canadian history, really shocking and I have no idea what made Canadians so pissed off at this Great American Hero.

Seriously, vandalism is wrong and breaking the law is bad. These assholes will be held accountable once apprehended. I don’t like political violence or anything destructive, I’ve said my piece on assassination attempts & January 6th riot & lootings. I stand by the rule of law and this shall not stand. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

[MisterWack]

*P. S. I do believe we can have an actual meaningful conversation about The Trump Administration’s trade war with Canada without being clouded by these heinous actions going on in 9 US States according to the FBI and in Canada.

[purplepoppy]

They're being attacked across Europe too. I know Americans like to spit everything into left/right and point score but I think this is more about attacking a dangerous powerful extremist and goes beyond just mere disagreement with his views. After all thousands of businesses are owned by right wingers and they don't get attacked. I don't think it's fair that innocent owners should suffer but I understand why people feel the need to fight back.

We've only got one Tesla dealership here and it hasn't went up in flames yet. Probably for safety reasons or environmental concerns. But someone did draw on the beach..

[Staximus]

@Uninfluential not hooked up to the power grid is the very definition of "off-grid", genius. Regardless if there's a generator or not. Where do you come up with this shit

[Screenwriter]

It's not right and it's chickenshit. If you're mad at Musk, then send an email, or write a letter, or make a phone call or organize a protest.

Don't damage someone's property because it was made by his company. That doesn't hurt his company! Protest at a dealership or elsewhere.

What they're doing is like damaging a dress I've sewn that someone buys to get back at me! Musk has already made his money on those cars, just as I would have.

Vandalizing his vehicles after they're sold to someone who simply likes his cars, doesn't hurt Musk. It's ludicrous and so indirect as to be pointless.

[Kayla45]

I don’t support it at all, ruining property is never okay. Not to mention the wasted materials used to BUILD the cars now destroyed and unusable.

Like I said before, they can hate Elon all they want, but needlessly damaging property isn’t the way to go about doing it.

[combative]

It's domestic terrorism and that's how participants are being charged. Generally DAs seek the maximum sentence for domestic terrorism and there is about a 75% conviction rate. A lot of people are going to be doing 20 years in the clink for each charge of domestic terrorism. In relation to domestic terrorism arson, conspiracy, and property damage exceeding I believe $500K (which car dealerships easily reach) all come with 20 year sentences.

[Bricealan]

@AviatorTom First off Tom, where do you get any information, that most Tesla owners are "Liberals? -

Never heard you make such an off the cuff, irresponsible, statement like that, based on what?

You did a pole of 50,000 Tesla owners to determine their political affiliation, and determined that most Tesla owners are Liberals?

You must show me where you got that kind of ridiculous information.

Now we have so destructive, crazy sons of bitches running vandalizing someones property and putting lives at stake by firebombing a Tesla dealership. For what?

Nothing more than gutless fucking punks do this kind of cowardly shit to prove WHAT?

Frankly, I am surprised that you even pose such a question... with your "liberal' slant attached to it.

I thought you were a bigger man than that.

[AviatorTom]

@Bricealan Studies have shown that the typical EV owner is more likely to be liberal, better for climate change, while more conservatives drive gas or diesel powered vehicles.

[Bricealan]

@AviatorTom In retrospect, and rethinking your comments, you may have a good point with regard to the 'environmental' aspects of electric cars. I am 'all electric' in my home ( with the only thing still natural gas being my clothes dryer) I am really 'conservative' politically and only went electric to avoid being jerked around by So Cal Edison and So Cal GAS... not necessarily to be environmentally 'green"... with that said... you may have a good point in that regard, and I can't understand the viscous vandalism.

[OlderAndWiser]

Far left in full self-destruct mode. The fallout from this will shape the next election, and the election of another conservative in 2028 will cement the return to more conservative values.

[Bricealan]

@OlderAndWiser Could not agree more. My god, firebomb a Dealership and possibly kill an innocent employee?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I dont believe in causing destruction like that, but I fully understand it. There will be repercussions for actions that Musk is taking. He's firing 10's of thousands of employees for no real reason other than to gut the government and sell it off to the highest bidders and to give himself the contracts to enrich his company. People are rightfully mad and some will take it to the extremes.

Again, I don't condone it, but it makes sense.

[Bricealan]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 "gut the government and sell it off to the highest bidders and to give himself the contracts to enrich his company"

Sell what off to the highest bidder?

To give himself WHAT contracts to enrich his company? "

To enrich his company" ?

He is already the richest man on the planet, ------ "To enrich his company" ?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

He already took the contract from the FAA away from Verizon and gave it to his Starlink business.

They want to privatize a lot of things such as schools, the post office and more. They have said as much with private vouchers being a thing.

The one thing you learn about the rich is they never think they have enough money. They always want more and generally have the finances to obtain it.

[exitseven]

Trying to cut the federal budget is not the same as gutting the government to sell it off. If Biden didn;t hire over a million people to make his job numbers look good we would not be in this predicment.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

If we were trying to cut the federal budget, then we could start with those contracts Elon's getting, which has been a total of 38 billion dollars since he started leeching off the government. That's more than he's actually saved so far if you go by the real numbers and not his inflated numbers where he claims 8 billion saved off one project alone when it's really 8 million.

We could cut defense contracts. We could actually stop giving tax breaks to the rich and get back a shit ton of money there.

What we shouldn't be doing is firing 10's of thousands of federal workers while raising prices on everything, causing this country more hardships than it has to be.

And yes, the point is to try and privatize everything. Even if it happens, I'm afraid, maga will say it's a good thing.

[BCRanger10]

Brought to you by the "no one is above the law" folks.

[Lliam]

It seems to be typical modern liberal behavior - violence, vandalism, arson.

People who commit such acts should be treated as terrorists.

[DrPepper12]

I'll let the J6 crew know...

[Lliam]

@DrPepper12. Yeah. That's the only example Democrats can point to. Ohhhh such a big deal! INSURRECTION! LOL
But where was the vandalism and arson that libs are so fond of?

[Spencer10]

100% opposed. This damages the legitimate protests. Distracts from the real voices of protest. The best way to protest is by making Tesla stock tank not vandalism.

[loveslongnails]

Misdirected anger, but understandable. The same "mob mentality" that voted in the Orange Cheeto is doing the vandalizing. LIke Forrest Gump said, " Stupid is as stupid does".

[DryGermanGuy]

These people are fucking idiots and belong to prison.

[Ariesman81]

I think it's more proof that liberals are mentally ill and/or controlled by evil.

[sage2021]

Who would have ever in a million years thought that this was going to happen?😔

[Massageman]

While I will never buy an EV or even partial EV, this is still wrong, the perpetrators (or perpa-traitors?) should be caught, tried and clinked.

[FunkyMonkee]

Those doing it should go straight to jail!!!

[katiesmuff]

In my opinion it serves them right! When you are a successful businessman don't get mixed up with a fucked up political party which is causing so much hate across the nation. Hate soon turns to violence.

[Anonymous]

It's a major environmental disaster. The culprits need to be held accountable under environmental law.

[FreyaRed]

Mutual intimidation. Govt. tries to intimidate those who burn cars down, owners feel intimidated because their cars are hated by part of population, potential customer choose surely other products maybe something form EU or Japan. XD

[Dargil]

Typical leftist violence. It Is the only thing they believe in.

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6gQHeA1lEYM

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[douride2]

It is just idiots being stupid. Nothing more.

[andreasderjuengere]

I think - it's understandable, but also pointless.

Reminds me of the earlier show when the Capitol had been raided by similarly minded people.

U. S. ''culture'' appears to be quite violent.

[DrPepper12]

It's a property crime, not domestic terrorism. Prosecute to the fullest extent!!

[LiamJHayden]

It displays the emotional maturity of a toddler.

[YN1F-1]

I hope Trump and Co. send the guilty to CECOT. Because it's not vandalism of a company per se, but a form of political terrorism.

[Catguy92]

ugh... I knew it was going to happen but not because it's reasonable. It's because people are mostly idiots. It's stupid behavior that doesn't do anything to help, it's dumb on every level and your I. Q. is below room temperature.

[Sachem]

Wouldn't surprise me in the least that some day it is revealed that these are false flag situations planted by Musk and the right wing.

[strateguy632]

Good points, i can only repeat the fact also here "liberals are the WORST hypocrits '.

[Anonymous]

It’s completely stupid and liberals need to grow the hell up

[OneViewpoint]

A clear case of FAFO Elon. These egotistical buffoons will never learn.

[chrissykerdock]

lowlives depravity

[Anonymous]

Just proves the tolerant left isn't so tolerant and will take their intolerance to the extreme. if you want to hate someone, hate them, but no need to take the hate physically.

[jshm2]

Not enough firebombing of them. But the price of gas makes it something they cannot afford.

[msc545]

Nobody should have their business vandalized. Maybe if Musk stoped vandalizing our government his businesses would no longer be vandalized...

[Shiprex]

It's a bit childish but understandable.

[Dongie]

That's done by your DNC street malitia.

[UnwantedScorpio]

That’s a crime

[robocop666]

Violence is all these people know

[GAGsucksballs89170]

I think what elon is doing, is wrong

[Anonymous]

Chickens come home to roost

[Razp_Sorbet]

V funny. I hope musk goes bankrupt 😋

[grega239]

Hmm. I was told that leftoids are tolerant

[beefcakebradybatson]

TUCK FESLA !!!

[masterSir]

liberal terrorists at it again.

[KostasKouvalis]

Pathetic