Which looks like a better deal for the US?

[Anonymous]

Obama:

Unfroze 1.7 billion funds (not taxpayer money)

Iran agreed to dismantle two-thirds of its centrifuges, redesign its heavy-water reactor, and ship the vast majority of its enriched uranium stockpile out of the country. Pledged to not seek nuclear weapons.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was granted enhanced 24/7 access to monitor Iran’s nuclear supply chain, supply lines, and uranium mines.

In return for meeting these strict benchmarks, the US and European Union lifted nuclear-related economic sanctions.

Trump plan:

The agreement would end fighting on “all fronts,” including Lebanon, where Israel has been seeking to destroy Hezbollah.

Many of the key details are punted to a final deal to be hammered out within 60 days, “extendable by mutual consent.”

Under the memorandum, both sides would agree to restore shipping through the Strait of Hormuz to its prewar levels within 30 days

The MOU says the United States, “together with its regional partners,” will ensure the financing of at least $300 billion for a reconstruction fund for Iran.

the U. S. would commit to ending “all types of sanctions” on Iran. These include sanctions approved by the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency, as well as unilateral sanctions

Iran reiterates that it would not produce nuclear weapons under the deal.

Iran made a similar commitment under the nuclear deal signed during the Obama administration and was reportedly willing to make it again during negotiations before Trump and Netanyahu launched the war on Feb. 28.

The deal does not explicitly bar Iran from enriching uranium, instead maintaining the “status quo” of its nuclear program.

[lilBigPotato]

If it wasn't clear yet who's the winner in this conflict, now it is. Iran gets lifted sanctions, keeps control over the straight and money to repair damaged infrastructure and all they have to do is to give a promise that they won't build nuclear weapons and they will talk about it further later. Money and lives wasted for nothing... Well done.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@lilBigPotato thats been denied by both the US and Iran. It's a fake release by Al-albiya out of Saudi Arabia, and Mehr News. The Canadian PM Carney just gave an interview at G7, he claimed to be one of the few that saw the MOU. He called it a "game changer" and that it would prevent Iran from having a nuke, and was conditional. He is a Trump critic and has had a fued with him.

[lilBigPotato]

@FrodoSkywalker007 it's not. It was partially leaked by US officials and also been been made fully public by now, confirming all the points discussed earlier today.

Here to read for you
edition.cnn.com/.../us-iran-war-mou-text-intl

[FrodoSkywalker007]

If that is a true document, Trump would have turned a military success into a political disaster. He will lose all support and be kicked from office. I'd personally vote against him.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Let's say this is true. Does he want to lose all support and be kicked out of office? Republicans wouldn't go for such a thing. Do you think the claim he is a Russian agent is true?

[lilBigPotato]

@FrodoSkywalker007 he went head first into a war without a clear exit strategy and the longer he stays inside the more it will damage him. I guess he's trying to choose the lesser evil 🤷‍♀️ I think the US has upcoming elections, probably wants to have it sorted before that. Don't think he's a Russian agent, just a corrupt, narcissistic liar.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Makes no sense to make concessions right before a midterm. It would lose him much of his base.

[Anonymous]

Obama's clearly was much better. Trump surrendered.

[strateguy632]

obama said "Pledged to not seek nuclear weapons." but did not enforce! no penalty. no undo deal. obama was the worst diversity hire from them all.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

From my understanding, that MOU is fake. Both the Iranian and Americsn governments have stated it's not real.

[exitseven]

I like the second one. The US does not give Iran money and Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.

[strateguy632]

what about the rebuild money?

[exitseven]

@strateguy632 Both President Trump and JD Vance has said that the US will not invest in Iran and if countries in thr Middle East want to invest in Iran they will have the opportunity.

[lilBigPotato]

Oh yeah the US is bombing the Iran and as thanks the neighbours don't just get dragged into that mess and attacked by Iran but on top should also pay for the whole disaster while the US doesn't pay anything?

Do you still believe in Santa too? If the fund is part of the deal then the US will have to pay a major part of it. If they don't, it will fall apart. There's 0 incentive for other countries to take over that part.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@lilBigPotato "if" is the key word. The MOU was never released. This has been claimed as fake. You are running with it because it fits your worldview. I imagine you believed CNN when it reported the US agreed to withdrawal from all bases and accept nuclear enrichment? That was also a fake news release.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Best case scenario for Iran is that this is conditional. They will be forced to surrender their nuclear program and hand over or dilute their enrichment for any sort of asset release. That is a terrible defeat for Iran for a nuclear weapon would be a significant deterrence for them. If their is a reconstruction fund paid by Arabs (which I agree is unlikely), it would likely be conditional and forced to accept Arab demands and influence. That would be unacceptable to them. Iran needs to rebuild its defeated military and stabilize its economy.

[lilBigPotato]

@FrodoSkywalker007 it has been made public by now by the US confirming the points. Read the official document on whatever site you like 🤷‍♀️

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@lilBigPotato if what you have given is true, and this war has had many fake leaks. I'd say Trump turned a military success into a political disaster. He would lose support and be kicked out. It would give creditable to him being a Russian agent.

[Pterodon]

If you believe they complied with Obamas plan then you need to be institutionalized for your own safety

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@Pterodon its sad many are in detail about this. Then IAEA even released reports that Iran was stonewalling inspections. Iran even reinterpreted the deal by making demands, and preventing access to military bases. If Trump can get a deal that dismantle the program, even with conditional asset releases, I'd consider that a victory. Canada's PM Carney claimed at G7 he saw the MOU and thought it a "game changer" that would end the program. That man is a Trump critic. Its sad to realize ao many people fall for the propaganda

[Anonymous]

Obama gave Iran 1.7 trillion unmarked
Bills on pallets

[Kelly6]

Trump deal sounds better