i think your initial reaction is quite normal, especially if you've not had many (or any other) partners yourself. (of course, if you've had a similar number of partners yourself, get over it ;) )
now that you've had your initial reaction, though, take a step back and be a bit objective. the very first thing to bear in mind is that regardless of what she's done before, she's with *you* now, and if she's quite experienced at, ahh, "meeting" people but has stayed with you for 8 months then that can be taken as something of an endorsement.
it you continue to struggle with your feelings, talk it over with her; be sensitive about how you bring it up of course - maybe turn it to your feelings rather than being judgemental ("gee, sometimes I feel kind of naiive compared to you", is better than "i can't believe you've been with so many guys!")
my guess is that you're probably feeling a bit inadequate & worried that she's comparing you unfavorably to former lovers. you may also be worried that she'll go off somewhere else & leave you (or simply sleep around). about inadequacy, see above: she's with *you* now; for the chance she'll leave, only you can answer: if she's being faithful to you then it would be a stunning blow to her if you accused her of infidelity simply because of her past experiences. think carefully about whether she's actually given you a reason to mistrust her since you've been together.
as a modern guy, consider this: if a guy friend of your said he'd slept with 20 girls, would you think of him in a similarly bad way? imagine an older friend saying he'd slept with a woman 15 years younger? would you say "you creep" or "you lucky guy" ? consider whether it's appropriate or fair to hold on to some of the old-fashioned views about sexuality.
at the end of the day, there's no easy answer to the imbalance in the number of your sexual partners; I'd suggest it's *not* a question that you'd usually want to know the answer to, beyond the three basic options of "none", "only one" or "more than one"
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..or 1 guy a week if she had a particularly crazy summer - what's your point? are you saying women can only have sex in some sort of long-term established relationship with a single partner?
my point was about being even-handed with the way female sexuality is perceived: there's still big hang-up over things that are "acceptable" for guys & not for girls. - +1 y
There was a study done about infidelity, how much of it is genetic, influenced by partners count, etc. Guess what the past is the past, but it still matters and have influence for both present and future. The name is long you can buy it if you are interested, its "Genetic Influences on Female Infidelity and Number of Sexual Partners in Humans: A Linkage and Association Study of the Role of the Vasopressin Receptor Gene (AVPR1A)"
Long story short, everyone has the past, but most of us are not forced to do those things and are well aware that it will influence our lives in the future, drunk guy who drives drunk and causes an accident, sure as hell wants to forget it and leave past as past, but as my parents always told me "think about consequences, before you do something". - +1 y
P. s from what perspective you think one thing is acceptable for guys, another for girls?
Girls like more experienced men for their own personal tastes/ pleasure, they are better in bed, know more, expierenced, etc.
Most men dont like girls with high partner count, heck i dont think that many girls like men like that.
In fact as a male i dont care if my friend slept with 10 or 100, or 10,000 girls, good for him, im not fazed by that, i dont like men, i dont care what they do, my attention is towards girls, because im attracted to them i think about them in sexual and intimate way.
If men are looked differently in this term, its because women have different preferences and tendencies.
I dont know what men women prefer, but i know which women i do prefer, plus in fact everyone knows that its extraordinary easy for women to get laid, there are lots of research and tests done.
80% of women seek 20% of men, aka best ones. Thus there are a lot more virgin males, then females. - +1 y
Even though most men are the ones actively seeking females out, its just the fact that most average/above average women have lots of leverage to choose. its more common to see a stud with extraordinary partner count, if he's confident, attractive, with all the right traits, than a female with same stats. Most guys who are not that attractive, not that social and bad at talking/ picking girls up are mostly virgins, while even shy and average girls are fished away in clubs anyway. Its logical that average girl have more partners than average (not ongoing, shy etc guy). Mostly because she had a lot more opportunities to act upon, thus its fairly harder for a woman to stay away from one night stands and high partner counts and thats a good trait, if you can say no to your instinctive urges, etc, you have quite attractive characteristics for a long term relationships, at least in my eyes, because you will not try to find the most pleasant/ easy solution, but work for the right one.
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I'm old fashioned I broke up with a girl because even with her long term relationships after they broke up she went back to sleeping around. So honestly it's up to you. And yes she did start sleeping around after we broke up. So some people never change I broke up before she could hurt me.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI know I'm not a saint however asking how many men or woman slept with. Is quite normal he actually is in a better off position then myself.
I have just recently ask the question of my girlfriend/fiancee. After we decided toI've in together to prepare for our wedding.
"How many men have you slept with just kinda popped up in our conversation"
Glad I asked her first reaction was you,
"didn't just ask me that".
I basically was like baby I'm sorry but what made me ask again was the fact that she just turned over in bed. An said leave me the fuck alone.
I so I asked again I felt at that point I deserved a answer. From the woman I'm about to spend a few grand on for a wedding ring and couple more on new house and a few more on taking care of her kids.
She told me I don't know I lost count I really don't know. I said I've been with 7 women married one have three kids from the one that I married. So could you stop joking around and just tell me.
Her answer fucking more than 100 Whaaaaaaat the fuck.
Was in my head I said ok whatever in hopes of her playing. An she says maybe about 300 and something.
I thought she was fucking joking so I said or you fucking kidding me baby and she says no I'm not I'm fucking serious.
Now all honesty I was like fuck I can't do this.
Please give me your opinion she is a beautiful smart woman. She does IT makes a good living I'm a marketing agent and owner.
No money problems but this I need help with.
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I could not live with this, how old she is? i would in no way feel special for her in any intimate situation ever again with her. It would slowly eat me away. Our past is not just "past" its connected to our present, our future, etc. Before doing something you should think about consequences, in the future, present and so on, everyone does mistakes or have past decisions they regret, but repeating that 300 times? If all of them were great, how high the chances are she will get bored of monogamy and want more excitement/ freshness in her life again?
It looks silly that men are concerned about partner count so much, but it does matter, there are even some research done about this, how it influences relationships etc, but from my personal standards and morality i would feel disgusted. - 6 mo
Late to this question, but still want to reply because screw her.
She sounds like an absolute headache, her reaction was overly aggressive and disrespectful as fuck. She knew full well she has a shitty past. Do you think you would have gotten that same rude ass reaction if it was only 3/4 guys?
Marrying a woman with kids, who has an insanely promiscuous past, and a massive attitude problem = early grave.
You said she’s smart, what makes you think that? I can at least tell from her reaction and past that her emotional intelligence is in the toilet.
Good luck.
524 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Does the number intimidate you a little. The thing is I have a pretty high number for my age too. I am clean and have never gotten an STD. The reason for having such a high number is because as a teenager I went through a wild stage. Am I proud of it? No. But it's what I chose to do. On the plus side it has helped me gain sexual knowledge. Not only that but I will never cheat on my fiance for the sake of sex. Sex with a man you love cannot compare to sex with a guy you are attracted to but aren't in love with. As long as she's clean than really it's just a number. She may have had a wild side too. It's normal to be a little freaked out. But what matters is the here and now.
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@Boogiefever yeah its gross.
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@dudeman you should read this book bc you remind me of one of the characters. His name is clover and the book is called Cellar by Natasha Preston
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@Frannydgaf1 nah why would i read a book?
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There was a study done in UK, actually the past does influence your present and future, and yes more promiscuous girls are quite more likely to cheat or stray away from the relationship, if someone can't live up to my moral standards i dont believe they deserve to be with me, all of us have self value and want someone worthy of it, a wild, cheap or promiscuous partner w/o you call it is never a good thing, you chose to be wild in that stage of life, now accept the consequences, none made you to do it, everyone should think about consequences before doing something, because you like it or not, past is not the past, past is the part of your present, future and your whole life, you can't just do anything you want immoral things and then simply lay it down as "past is the past" People are capable of changing and i believe most do, otherwise we would not have jails and simply kill criminals off, but if you did something shitty in the past, bear the consequences.
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It helped you to become a high risk and a moral outcast, that said with confidence.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI personally would feel the same way if I was with someone who had slept with that many people. just think about how many people each of themm had sex with. ew. I guess you have to sit down and decide if you can live with the fact that she's been with that many people & if you'll be able to accept that. [i also hope she got checked before you two became intimate]
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+1 yYou still have to look on the bright side of this, AT LEAST she's straight up and honest about it than keeping it completely secret from you man. I mean would you be even more upset and agree after you've been with her for many years or even married, etc. and either she never tells you about it, or tells you only after years and years you've invested emotionally, financially and whatever into her? I bet you'd be even more upset, hurt, angry, frustrated and disappointed if she kept it from you the entire time and then told you about it much later. Either stay and feel unhappy about something you can't change or just let go of what you never had any control over in the very first place. I personally think it's best to start all over again and try again. But if it was very hard for you get to this point and have a relationship, perhaps it's your very first one, then I can see why it's difficult to let go since you've already have established emotional attachments and invested emotionally into this relationship. But take your pick, either just treat this as a learning experience and lesson and move forward by taking what you've learned and just hope for the best that you'll find someone new and hasn't done something you have trouble accepting and dealing with.
What do my bros think about this? Am I right @Unit1? @decentguy?22 Reply
+1 yLol at some of the answers to this one. It has nothing to do with feeling inadequate or insecure and everything to do with self respect, faithfulness and being with a woman who hasn't given herself away so freely and one who has similar sexual values to the ones you have.
Whether man or woman, there is no difference.
Really, is Gold still valuable if every tom dick and harry has a bar of it in their bedroom? I think not. Note, the phrase 'the past is the past' is exclusively used by people who have been promiscuous, are ashamed of their past, know they acted in a disrespectful way or are in denial.
If you are going to sleep around, I think you should stop pretending it's a good thing and own it too, stop hiding and stop the bs of 'the past is the past'. I bet the ones who say the guy is the one with the problem have slept with just as many people, if not more.135 Reply- +1 y
What? A girl is not an object. You're comparing her on capitalistic economic terms, she's worth less because she is more used, like a car or a piece of jewelry, yet you haven't given any logical thought to the idea of her personality. If you date a girl who will likely cheat but has slept with three men, isn't it better to date a successful, faithful girl who has slept with 20? Your logic is impertinent.
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@ImRightGetOverIt There are lots of research done, partner count directly influence infidelity chances, she's not an object, but so do I, i have the same rights for my own morals and my own standards, if she can't live up to my standards its not my problem then, think about consequences, before doing anything. I stopped myself to stay true to my moral compass many times, i want similar person near me, not someone who just runs to the most pleasurable/ easiest solution there is available.
Personally every added dick is directly disgusting to me, but thats just me, maybe its the same for girls/men i dont know its personal and individual for each human.
To sleep around you need certain characteristics, certain moral compass, which can say a lot about a person. Yes people do change but our actions bear consequences, past is the same part of our life as present and the future. People should try to not repeat their mistakes, but same thing 20 times? And if it was just for casual pleasure - +1 y
@ImRightGetOverIt and sex - she's not for me, she might find someone else, but such characteristics in person are red zone for me. Because i still believe in monogamy and old fashion relationship/family and if sex is just a psychical pleasure, like masturbation, its very fucking likely when things will get boring, hard after many years, he/she will seek excitement elsewhere.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI think it shouldn't be a huge deal. Just make sure she hasn't caught anything from any guy. Make sure she's taken tests. But other than that, women are becoming more sexually free these days. Some men have done the same thing, and it's okay for them but not women? I can see she may be promiscuous but it may also mean that she is insecure and if she's with you wants to be committed. I see your concerns but I knew someone who has 25 partners and it was because she was sheltered her whole life. When she finally discovered sex, she wasn't really educated enough about control and thought that sex would mean love. Her parents were super religious and very antisex. I think it just depends on the situation.
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+1 yUntil women behave equally as men, they cannot be judged equally. Statistics show that no matter how many sex partners a man has, the likelihood for a divorce once he commits is flat, it makes no difference at all. Statistics for women show ever single sex partner she has is a significant increase in likelihood of divorce once she finally settles down. And in many places where the man is the one who loses the most in a divorce such as the US, you can't blame men for being extremely interested in knowing about a woman's past sexual past.
60 Reply well dude, there's a few ways to look at it.. yeah its in her past and it was before you, and she's been loyal to you for 8 months but at the same time, What does that say about her past and who she is? Girls like that typically have a lot of baggage and are constantly talking to other guys. you can say its a double standard for guys if you want, but I know guys and girls who are very attractive and have only been with like 4-5 people, its called morals and standards. she's been around...some girls just go through a wild phase and move on, but some are just crazy...and honestly she's probably lying about the number cause most girls will. really man, that's about 5 guys a years, sounds like a whore that anyone can pickup..nothing special about that.
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Yes but guys don't get a pass either. If they've slept with 20 they're whores too, male whores.
+1 yI wouldn't worry about it because she probably won't be your g/f for very long. The more promiscuous women are the more likely they are to be unfaithful and the less likely they are to have successful long term relationships. A study has shown that women who have had multiple sexual partners are usually most unhappy when they are married. So if you don't break up with her first she'll end up leaving you.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI have a similar situation. It's not easy to get past this but one thing you should keep in mind is that everyone has a past. I was told the news at the beginning of our relationship and as much as I hate it I was glad she was honest with me. It takes a lot for someone to come out and confess something like that, even when that means risking the relationship. I would be careful on who she talks to. One thing I demanded is that she didn't have contact with any of those partners anymore. That was one thing that helped me get past it. There is no reason to talk to those partners if she has moved on.
50 ReplyI would drop her quick before she hurts you. She's a massive slut. Think about it. She's fucked more men than years she's been alive. Women who are like that aren't going to be committed to a relationship and they're sleazy. They are bad, bad news and I would advise you to run away as fast as possible.
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+1 yNo, you're not, but you either deal with it, or become a muslim. Women are people too, and get to experiment as much as guys do. Anything else would be hypocritical. Get over it and love your slut, as she no doubt loves you.
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Woman have needs too right, just like men. That's why there is this thing they invented known as masturbation and if it's good enough for men, it's good enough for women too.
I think it is quite normal to feel that, especially if she has slept with more number of people than you. You are not a jerk, just normal.
70 ReplyGet over yourself! Her past should be no concern to you, you weren't there. And yes you are being a jerk. We all have pasts whether they were great or not so great. who are you to judge?
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Hes not being a jerk. she had control of her past and had control of how many people she had sex with. its obviously going to bother him.
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@Tobes____ a few lol... oscar mayer to shame she does
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Oh but, if she's trying to mingle her life with his then it's plenty of his business. Me personally, she'd get a huge pink slip and be on her way.
774 opinions shared on Relationships topic. You won’t get past this. Break up. There’s nothing wrong with what she has done - her body and her choice but you will never get over it so you’re not compatible.
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Sleeping with 20. Nothing wrong with that to her, but she'd absolutely get the pink slip from me, assuming I wasn't Munk MGTOW in the first place.
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Most people want to feel like we are with a person because they think we are special, as opposed to running around the neighborhood. Plus, promiscuity is a likely sign of infidelity. I care about the girl part more. I don't want a girl interested in half of my city. "Her body her choice" sounds like some feminist platitude. It's not an agreement.
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@cavmanier Exactly. And any guys that has that high of a count, they're a whore too. They don't get a pass from me either, they are held to the exact same standards in my opinion.
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@ThisAndThat Guys are more often sluts than girls lol. That's well known.
What often happens is discussions like these often trigger some other argument or emotion. The "her body her choice" comment sounds like a feminist platitude slogan, but generally feminists mostly want fair rights and not a pass to be a slut. Topics like these can indirectly threaten their main concern though. - +1 y
@cavmanier it is her choice. The same as it’s a mans choice to sleep with that many people. It’s not about feminism at all, it’s about respecting a person to make their own decisions. Don’t twist my words to suit your agenda. People who have slept around will meet other like minded people. People who’ve a low to zero count should be with people similar if it bothers them. Fuck all to do with feminism pal but nice try and twisting it to suit you and find an argument where there isn’t one.
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@cavmanier “pass to be a slut” how the hell does it affect you if someone is or isn’t a “slut”? You’ve very little to say about men behaving the same way. And FYI again, nothing to do with feminism. Your buzz word that gets you off there. I also am not saying I agree with this type of behaviour. I eat meat, some people don’t. I don’t bully them for their life choices as it has nothing to do with me and doesn’t affect me. I’ve been single for 4 years, I don’t bully people who’ve had long term relationships. Just move on with your life if you don’t agree with them Jesus.
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@ThisAndThat if you don’t like someone with that kind of count, don’t date them. It’s really simple.
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Did I say it wasn't her choice? What's the point in telling me obvious things like that. I'm not retarded. I don't think you read what I said. It has nothing to do with what you said.
"how the hell does it affect you if someone is or isn’t a “slut”?"
If you read what I said, I explained that. Obviously I don't care what sluts do that I'm not with, but in the context of this question--relationships--I'd only want to be with someone picky about who they sleep with. I can go further into that like I already have if people have reading comprehension ability. It probably is mostly due to me valuing loyalty which statistically slutty promiscuous behavior is at odds with. I don't care what other people want to do though. - +1 y
“You’ve very little to say about men behaving the same way.”
Umm…….. Open your eyes, “Guys are more often sluts than girls lol. That's well known.” I was more critical of guys…
Where did I bully someone for their slutty behavior? Nowhere… I don’t want to be with a slut but I don’t care what they do. Now a days it’s supposedly antagonistic to not to find every character classification appealing. - +1 y
@cavmanier you’re the one who got arsey. Not me.
783 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Actually I would be very bothered if the woman I liked told me this. And she's only 22 also which I think makes it worst.
If I were you I'd just break up. I'm not going to deal with a young girl that got legs that's always open for business.40 Reply- 372 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yOne of my hobbies is stealing the girlfriends of men like you. Get over it if you want to. If not, someone will.
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So you steal used engines, that's pretty cool...
STDs man. Be careful. I think you're not being a jerk. I judge girls by their past because history repeats itself. I would not be surprised if she would cheat. When you do things over and over again, they become a norm. She might not find it a problem to sleep with other dudes while she's in a relationship
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+1 yNo that's normal. I won't date a guy who has a high number at my age. 20 random guys is very high at age 22.
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+1 yThat number wouldn't phase me because I was worse as a teen, but I can understand. What is weird to me, though, is in all of my encounters I have never been asked in person what my body count is.
00 Reply I wouldn't care she has slept with many guys but I would suspect she is easy and might cheat, personally
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And the potential risk for disease would be of no concern to you at all?
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo,
I would have a very difficult time trying to deal with that.
Which is why I'm going to state at a beginning of my next relationship that I just don't want to know this about her past20 ReplyI'd be more concerned about the possibility of sexual abuse in her childhood my guy
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+1 yDump her those 20 guys are 20 dicks that were probably dirty and she might have STDs you don't want to be the guy who ends up with the town whore dump her ASAP
10 ReplyGirls sleep around (have sex)... There are no more virgins anymore... better get used to the body count...
If you think it is too high to deal with, dump her and find a new girlfriend.
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+1 yThat's kind of stupid if she's with you now that shouldn't make any difference
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Oh yes it does make a difference and it should too. I would absolutely for me, she'd get the pink slip and there isn't any doubt about that.
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@ThisAndThat lame
Why do you care? Why does it matter?
Judge her by who she is with you and how you feel about her
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It matters because she's been with 20 and now she's trying to mingle with him, simple.
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@ThisAndThat
So? Why does that matter?
Is there some magic number that is too much?
Must she bleed on the sheets to be acceptable?
If it is 1 10 or a 100 it doesn't matter it is past
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And here and now would be the exact merits based on when she was given the pink slip.
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so if a woman has been with 300+ guys and you are saying it doesn't matter... (let the past stay in the past)... then YOU must be ok with dating/marrying a hooker? If a chic has sex with 20/200/2000 guys and doesn't blink an eye and thinks that that's acceptable behavior and uses the BS cover of (my body/my choice) and is not getting paid for it she is really stupid.
They are called the town bicycle for a reason...
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThe question in your mind should be, will your relation last for a long time cause she has been 20 guys at such an young age. What if she gets bored of you.
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+1 yI'm not trying to influence your decision, but me personally, that's a big NO go.
10 Replyshe can't be good news man.you better be careful
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI would move on.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ydump her.
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