Does anyone else agree dating "coaches" are scam artists?

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They have all this great "advice" and tell you about the social "dynamics" of how people interact with each other. It looks good on paper but it's all a hoax. They just want to scam you for money. There is no "game" or "skill" in getting a girlfriend/boyfriend, or getting laid for that matter. It's pretty much luck: You're either rich and good looking or ugly and broke. It's as simple as that. It hurts both genders (the money part mainly hurts men.) Why does anyone trust these people?

Intraluminal · Accepted Answer

I think that the problem is this: the ability to date well, is mostly due to "emotional intelligence" or "social intelligence" or whatever you want to call it, that enables some people to read others and adjust their behavior "in real time." In other words, you me someone, decide you're interested, approach them, and then while interacting with them you quickly "get" whether they're interested, what they dislike, what interests them, and you successful "go" with that. Probably nothing can change that innate ability.

However, part of dating is EXPERIENCE. A good dating coach can help you develop whatever ability you have to read others, and help you come up with strategies to act and dress appropriately. To that extent, a dating coach can help.

James0 · Accepted Answer

Because some men are desperate for help, if you are not rich, good looking, or even lucky what can you do :o

But seriously, they are trying to teach the exact same thing to every guy, one size does not fit all

TheDevilInside · Accepted Answer

I pick D. Not all of them are necessarily scam artists, but the title "dating coach" is so ridiculously stupid. Is there a degree to dating? Is there a dating training to get you qualified to be a coach? *facepalm* they're just like those self-proclaimed messiahs.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Not at all. Advice is what it is, advice. It's not meant for everyone.

RogueVeteran · Answer

A dating coach strings viewers along with ineffective advice, deliberately. First it’s buy this program//book. Use this "magic word", send her this text, stand on this angle (yes, seriously!), wear this and "buy my course to get the dream girl you deserve" . A week or two later, it's use THIS magic word, send her THESE texts, and wear something ELSE. Buy this book. Now another few videos and a course that will "get you your dream girl". Then it's the same procedure, for months on end, with each video differing from the last in some form.

Think about this, they do countless videos on so called “advice”. Now, if this “free” advice was valid, why are they constantly a) bringing out overpriced books/courses etc, for which they sometimes shame and guilt trip people into buying? and b) making video after video for months on end with “advice” that conflicts with previous videos?

Also, the fact that a lot of dating experts have “shills”, as well as fake comments like “Oh I’m glad I found your video by accident today, best advice ever” or “Buy their course guys, it’s really good and changed my life” speaks volumes.
Dating expert: "Buy my $5k relationship mastery course, it will get you your dream girl".
Dating Expert 3 months later : "sign up for my $2k course on how to get your dream girl".

Octavius · Answer

It's desperate peoples fault for allowing themselves to be strung along.

Instead of paying for the service I'll tell you what they actually do. They constantly just ask women out every day until they get a yes. They get rejected 40 times in a single day but they got like 4 yeses as well on that day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYBET6rmFo

this is supposed to be a joke but it actually is what most of those "dating coaches" advice comes down to.

Anonymous · Answer

You could say this about any type of coach though. For example swimming is a skill which only you can learn. People can give you techniques and strategies but ultimately, it comes down to your efforts. It’s the same with job interview coaching or relationship coaching. These are all things which involve people and you won’t have complete control over what others think or feel but you can change how you behave around others and how you think about yourself. I think the advantage of a coach is that they can help you see what your issues are and tailor advice to you using their experience. Having said that, I’m sure there are some bad coaches out there as with any type of coaching.

Anonymous · Answer

If anyone can get the message through to someone that life is short, you get one chance so you might as well love yourself and go for it then they are a good dating coach. After all that it is dressing better and maybe gaining some manners and anyone with fashion sense and manners can pull that off.

R3d_Anonymous · Answer

It depends on the dating coach. Some, like Jad T Jones and Stephen Erdman are very genuine and free of manipulation.

Accipiter · Answer

Not all of them.  Mostly just the ones who say things like "This will work on any girl," or "this will get you laid guarenteed."

Words_and_Wisdom · Answer

Depends on the coach obviously. Frankly RSD is a fantastic source.  Honestly, social skills should be taught in school, but because that isn't the case these kinds of people are needed.

Koldhearted · Answer

i would need to see an ugly dating coach/PUA in action

allahu_snackbar · Answer

Yeah, it's all bullshit.

Prof_Don · Answer

Some guys and gals need help with the basics!

Nathand · Answer

maybe dating should be an Olympic game

mexborough · Answer

yes, they are.

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