"Nice guys always put others' needs before their own" This is what true leaders are suppose to do.
"Nice guys do or plan a date considering what their crush/love interest will consider fun." Are you kidding me? If you want to catch her attention doing something she likes isn't a bad thing.
"Nice guys are not afraid to show their emotions." I'm confused. I often hear that females like guys who can express their feelings.
"nice guys finish last because they make sure she finishes first." ;)
I'm a nice guy but shy too. I do hope to get a girl though in the coming future but things will need changing. Just don't be an ass to the girl that is all.
This is what's wrong with relationships. Why would I hold back my emotions? Fuck that.
I used to do that with some girls but now that I'm with another girl... It's quite the difference. I told her that I had some baggage and I wanted to share it with her, 2 weeks into the relationship or she could fuck off because I wasn't his fuck buddy.
Plus, most people are inherently nice, from what I've seen. So it's nothing special.
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Yeah, we fucking suck, I know. We're not sexy and we're not exciting. Assholes are. I sure as hell wouldn't fucking date someone like me. Advice to nice guys: You're owed nothing. If a chick isn't interested, it's because of you, not her. Don't be polite, don't give a flying shit at all. Then you'll be successful.
@Opinion Owner If you're not being sarcastic, then things can still change, you're quite young at this stage. Also don't stop being polite, and be nice to your girl. Do special things for her that YOU want to do for her, instead of what you think that she wants you to do for her.
I always thought I was a nice guy but also always seemed to have a girlfriend. In hindsight, I did hear the word "jerk" a lot. I was very close to dumping my now wife for calling me that a lot about 3 months into our relationship. I confronted her about it and told her I wasn't sure Imwanted to keep dating her. She promised not to say it again and here we are.
This is bull. The title should be ''why nice guys that aren't considered attractive by most females don't get the girl.'' Most females can careless if a good looking guy did everything you listed.
"Nice guys" aren't actually nice. If they were they'd understand when people say they don't want a relationship. Instead they complain about, decide that they're a nice person, and then blame it on their perceived nicenes
it is not true for all of these guys. As someone in their opinion already pointed out some of the so called nice guys are adhering to what society expects from them instead of what they really want from the society. But your Statement is true for many other "nice guys" who are just plain manipulative in my opinion.
This doesn't apply to all men out there. This take is on guys who are really frustrated with women and whine about it saying that they do not get laid even when they are the nicest people on planet.
Yes, I know it doesn't apply to all men out there, nor did I say or imply that it did. What I am stating is that this applies only to a rather small minority of nice guys, albeit a very vocal one.
But I'm also stating that in the case of the good men I know (my dad, my brother, my friends, my colleagues), they DO exhibit much of the behavior you listed. They frequently put the needs of others ahead of their own. They frequently show their emotions. I don't know about my dad, but once in a while the other people I mentioned did complain and/or express sadness about women not wanting them. AND YET THEY STILL GOT MARRIED. How they do that if they exhibit the behavior that you are advising nice guys not to do? I think I have an answer to my own question, but I'm curious what your answer would be.
Since you mention the word "whine," may I ask how a person can express sadness in a way that isn't whining? Or are men never allowed to express sadness? What is an acceptable way to express discontent without whining? What is an acceptable way to express loneliness? Is there any way at all?
Of course whiners exist, but I've found that roughly 50% of the time, when someone says a person is whining, I tend to disagree. I think roughly half the time someone claims someone else is whining, it is because the person hearing the complaint is too inexperienced, too unwise, too unintelligent, is unable to offer anything, or is too impatient to listen. Besides, what do you think the chances are that they will actually listen to you, even if they are really whining, if you use the term "whine" or "whiner" or "whiney?"
As I said, roughly half the time when I hear someone call someone else a whiner, I would agree the person complaining is behaving childishly or not listening to reason. But even if that's the case, I don't say, "Stop whining" because I know that person probably won't listen to me if I use the term. The other half of the time, I think the person is expressing a heartfelt emotion and has every right to do so and the person calling them a whiner is just too fed up or too inexperienced or too much of an idiot.
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"Nice guys always put others' needs before their own"
This is what true leaders are suppose to do.
"Nice guys do or plan a date considering what their crush/love interest will consider fun."
Are you kidding me? If you want to catch her attention doing something she likes isn't a bad thing.
"Nice guys are not afraid to show their emotions."
I'm confused. I often hear that females like guys who can express their feelings.
Are German females really this picky?
"nice guys finish last because they make sure she finishes first." ;)
I'm a nice guy but shy too. I do hope to get a girl though in the coming future but things will need changing. Just don't be an ass to the girl that is all.
This is what's wrong with relationships. Why would I hold back my emotions? Fuck that.
I used to do that with some girls but now that I'm with another girl... It's quite the difference. I told her that I had some baggage and I wanted to share it with her, 2 weeks into the relationship or she could fuck off because I wasn't his fuck buddy.
It's so healthy not holding back anything at all.
I must say... it is rather refreshing to be selfish at times! :)
yes sometimes when you are thinking about your own needs you are actually doing others a favour.
Plus, most people are inherently nice, from what I've seen. So it's nothing special.
Yeah, we fucking suck, I know. We're not sexy and we're not exciting. Assholes are. I sure as hell wouldn't fucking date someone like me. Advice to nice guys: You're owed nothing. If a chick isn't interested, it's because of you, not her. Don't be polite, don't give a flying shit at all. Then you'll be successful.
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I'm bitter, but not towards women. I actually feel sorry for them for having to have to deal with guys like us.
If it makes you feel any better, I truly hate myself.
@Opinion Owner If you're not being sarcastic, then things can still change, you're quite young at this stage. Also don't stop being polite, and be nice to your girl. Do special things for her that YOU want to do for her, instead of what you think that she wants you to do for her.
They were neveer attractive and pretty much heavily conditioned by people around him. They play one boring role for the rest of their lives.
Am I a nice guy or am I a bad boy?
@GoldCobra I don't know you. So I can't comment.
I always thought I was a nice guy but also always seemed to have a girlfriend. In hindsight, I did hear the word "jerk" a lot. I was very close to dumping my now wife for calling me that a lot about 3 months into our relationship. I confronted her about it and told her I wasn't sure Imwanted to keep dating her. She promised not to say it again and here we are.
This is bull. The title should be ''why nice guys that aren't considered attractive by most females don't get the girl.'' Most females can careless if a good looking guy did everything you listed.
Why thumbs down? Truth hurts.
I didn't downvote you... and no I've seen model handsome guys, being total wuss with women who get frustrated to the point that they become bitter.
I am talking about the guy who did downvote me.
"Nice guys" aren't actually nice. If they were they'd understand when people say they don't want a relationship. Instead they complain about, decide that they're a nice person, and then blame it on their perceived nicenes
it is not true for all of these guys. As someone in their opinion already pointed out some of the so called nice guys are adhering to what society expects from them instead of what they really want from the society. But your Statement is true for many other "nice guys" who are just plain manipulative in my opinion.
I know plenty of good men (my father, my brother, my friends, my colleagues) and hardly anything you say here applies to them.
This doesn't apply to all men out there. This take is on guys who are really frustrated with women and whine about it saying that they do not get laid even when they are the nicest people on planet.
Yes, I know it doesn't apply to all men out there, nor did I say or imply that it did. What I am stating is that this applies only to a rather small minority of nice guys, albeit a very vocal one.
But I'm also stating that in the case of the good men I know (my dad, my brother, my friends, my colleagues), they DO exhibit much of the behavior you listed. They frequently put the needs of others ahead of their own. They frequently show their emotions. I don't know about my dad, but once in a while the other people I mentioned did complain and/or express sadness about women not wanting them. AND YET THEY STILL GOT MARRIED. How they do that if they exhibit the behavior that you are advising nice guys not to do? I think I have an answer to my own question, but I'm curious what your answer would be.
Since you mention the word "whine," may I ask how a person can express sadness in a way that isn't whining? Or are men never allowed to express sadness? What is an acceptable way to express discontent without whining? What is an acceptable way to express loneliness? Is there any way at all?
Of course whiners exist, but I've found that roughly 50% of the time, when someone says a person is whining, I tend to disagree. I think roughly half the time someone claims someone else is whining, it is because the person hearing the complaint is too inexperienced, too unwise, too unintelligent, is unable to offer anything, or is too impatient to listen. Besides, what do you think the chances are that they will actually listen to you, even if they are really whining, if you use the term "whine" or "whiner" or "whiney?"
As I said, roughly half the time when I hear someone call someone else a whiner, I would agree the person complaining is behaving childishly or not listening to reason. But even if that's the case, I don't say, "Stop whining" because I know that person probably won't listen to me if I use the term. The other half of the time, I think the person is expressing a heartfelt emotion and has every right to do so and the person calling them a whiner is just too fed up or too inexperienced or too much of an idiot.
I really enjoyed reading this! It definitely reminds me of my boyfriend. He fits the 'nice guy' perception, and
Glad that you liked it.
Wow, I didn't even realize it didn't post my whole response! Can't remember what I was saying...
Oops! Sorry XD
I agree, but this only goes for guys that are actually nice persons, all the self-proclaimed "nice guys" are assholes.
Not all 'nice guys' agree with the girl, i have my own opinion on things yet i'm still a 'nice guy' so, most true though
so you don't need any advise from this take, you are probably a genuine nice guy.
A more clinical term for nice-guys is 'co-dependents'
Any women or girl that says they like ''Nice Guys'' are lying to cover up their shallowness.
Awesome take bro.. I like to add
Nice guys are more clingy too
yes there I think the clinginess and neediness is also a manifestation of their need to be accepted.
Nice guys may or may not finish first, but they usually finish the best
nice guys are stuck with leftovers.
@Nathand well someone has got to eat them leftovers
Why? Leftovers should be left for the seagulls.
a lot of these things describe me but if a relationship never happens because of then so be it im not gonna change who i am
nice guys dont get the girl when its a compensation for qualities he may need.