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Women need to stop whining about 'nice guys' (Page 3)

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  • Scrambledagain
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    You can say what you want, do whatever but women are evolutionary not attracted to nice guys. It's simple.

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
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      They certainly are not attracted to nice guys. But, it isn't because of a lack of free will, which perhaps could be my next myTake topic.

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    • Scrambledagain
      Scrambledagain
      +1 y

      Dude, you can write a book twice the size of the bible about your theories on why girls don't like nice guys ( in that way), bottom line though, yeah, nice guys don't get girls or even worse, find that one girl they not attracted to but settle with because theyrightfully believe that they can't choose their lover. nice guys don't have that sexual chemistry... whatever that is.

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    • Scrambledagain
      Scrambledagain
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      I despise being a nice guy and changing this is fucking difficult.

      Reply
  • Zeroize
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    Xper 4 Age: 29
    +1 y

    I don't whine about nice guys -- I ask them out. They're keepers, those ones. Once more women realize this, the better.

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    • stillpuzzled
      stillpuzzled
      +1 y

      Your young lol

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  • the_unknown_panda
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    Xper 5 Age: 25
    +1 y

    when do women whine about nice guys? It's always guys.

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      They do on GAG all the time. And feminists websites do also.

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    • the_unknown_panda
      the_unknown_panda
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      I've never seen any on GAG, and i've never been on a feminist website.

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  • Anonymous
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    The only time a woman wants a nice guy is when she is gonna settle for marriage

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    • Scrambledagain
      Scrambledagain
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      and then still divorces. The majority of divorces in America is still initiated by women.

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    • BigJake
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      @Scrambledagain Yes, this is true. "Irreconcilable differences" should be changed to "Married the best I could get to commit and I've finally had enough of his ass."

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  • Anonymous
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    I THINK THIS IS TRUE. I MYSELF BEING A NICE GUY IS FACING THE SITUATION WHERE WOMEN LISTED ME AS FRIENDS BUT THE GUYS WHO BEHAVE BAD THEY ARE GETTING WOMEN.

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    • Chan_Aku_Deadman
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      This I can agree my friend I been nice to some of my female friends the others are more likely them who treat them like lower class sadly..

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    • Anonymous
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      @Chan_Aku_Deadman so i thinl we should stop being mice.

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  • R3d_Anonymous
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    Excellent take. What I've been wanting to say for a long time.

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  • GreatnessPersonified
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    You should do a take on self assertion. No one's talked about that yet.

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      Maybe I will. Thanks for the suggestion.

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    I'm a nice guy and I never have a problem with getting a girl I like... it's not about being nice is about not being a pushover

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      The problem is, conventional morality says that you should be a pushover.

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    • Anonymous
      Opinion Owner
      +1 y

      It really isn't... for example

      You can be nice to girls (tell them they are pretty, open doors for them and blah blah blah) thats totally fine... but dont be a yes man. If she does something you dont like OPEN your mouth and tell her "hey that shit is NOT alright" or something along the lines

      My girlfriend keeps saying that she loves the fact that I'm nice but I can call her out when she's being bitchy about something... trust me bro women LOVE men who are nice but also have a strong character!

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
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      But, that's being selfish, not nice.

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  • OrdinaryGentleman
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    I love these posts that stir the pot. Well done and well written.

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    your "rational world" is abominable and destined to fail. this take is wrong on so many levels.

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      There is no destiny.

      But, probably the world will not go my way, much to the detriment of everyone in it.

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    • Anonymous
      Opinion Owner
      +1 y

      there is a destiny that you create by choosing to turn the world to what you perceive as healthy. and its not going anywhere.

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      That is not destiny, then.

      Did I say I'm winning? In fact, I implied that I'm losing. The culture is indeed becoming more consistently altruistic, and we can see the carnage unfold on every front, not least the romantic/sexual realm.

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  • CancerianMan81
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    what the hell i'm trying to explain to you @XRabbitHeartX

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    • CancerianMan81
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      +1 y

      that's because that's all I see and i'm not accusing you of anything I'm just stating what I'm seeing in women what I have been dealing with okay there's a difference and it's not to discredit women that's not my aim i'm just pointing out the problems so that we don't have this from keep going on

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      but all the fuck you want to do is act childish and block me from talking to you you know that's real fucking cute

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      I think you need to grow up and start acting your damn age @XRabbitHeartX

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      WOMEN MAKES MY HEAD HURT

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      women always tells me I'm angry and bitter when I know myself when I'm angry and bitter

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      all these women want to do is argue that fact to make us men look like the BAD GUYS

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      I'M JUST FUCKING TIRED OF TRYING TO PROVE MY POINT OF WHO I AM WHEN ALL YOU WOMEN WANT TO SAY IS THAT US MEN IS BEING THE ACCUSER AND BEING BITTER AND ANGRY ALL THE TIME WE AIN'T "NICE GUYS" AND THAT WE'RE AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOMEN DO IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WITH YOU WOMEN THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO FIGHT WITH US MEN SO THAT YOU CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELVES ALL BECAUSE THINGS DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT WITH YOU CAUSE OF YOUR CONTROL AND MANIPULATION US MEN DON'T KNOW WHAT TO GIVE YOU ALWAYS ON PINS AND NEEDLES WITH YOU WOMEN CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK TO SAY CAUSE WE'RE A JERK NO MATTER WHAT WE DO OR SAY

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WOMEN I DON'T KNOW WHO'S PROBLEM IT IS MY PROBLEM OR YOU'RE WOMEN'S PROBLEM

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      BUT IT NEEDS TO FUCKING END CAUSE I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE OF IT

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    • CancerianMan81
      CancerianMan81
      +1 y

      ALL THE HELL US MEN ARE ASKING YOU IS IF WE CAN DATE YOU THAT'S ALL THERE'S NOTHING COMPLICATED ABOUT THAT AND THERE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING COMPLICATED ABOUT IT BUT YOU WOMEN ARE THE ONE'S THAT ARE MAKING IT COMPLICATED

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    what is done all Feminism put 'Nice Guy' due to all unintelligent mens.

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  • pavlove
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    +1 y

    someone's been brushing up on his Ayn Rand

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      I am an Objectivist, yes. I am far past the brushing-up stage.

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    • pavlove
      pavlove
      +1 y

      what are your thoughts on Bioshock? lol

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      As far as I know, it's a video-game that implies that Objectivism widely practised would lead to social destruction. The makers of that game probably need actually to read and to understand Ayn Rand, who makes it very clear how important human relationships are. But, there you go. We are back, if only implicitly, to that common and deadly fallacy: either you sacrifice yourself to others, or you sacrifice others to yourself. Rape, or be raped. Murder, or be murdered. And then they wonder why the Elliot Rodgers of the world appear. The altruists degrade human relationships by claiming that they could never be of benefit to oneself.

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    • pavlove
      pavlove
      +1 y

      I like her work and I think it was amazing to put her philosophy into a fiction where at least it can be looked at more clearly than a spiel of rhetoric that seems very antagonistic to modern society. The strength, however, in her Ideal Man is that he is unconcerned with the politics of the time. To seek change feels a little contradictory to living with integrity and let that shine as an example to others--or don't. I'm also cautious that she saw the American Ideal as a sort of savior force to the harshness of Communism without looking at the flaws. The room for some people to cheat and make it impossible for others to succeed even if they work hard is at the cornerstone of this. My final issue with her is the most obvious, rape. She seems to advocate in favor of it in several instances without defining exactly what she means which can leave a room for dangerous error and also she seems to think of the natural position of women is, in part, male-worship. Again, if she feels different

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    • pavlove
      pavlove
      +1 y

      differently about it she should be more specific. To not seems lazier than what she's capable of. In any event, she touches upon that thing which made and continues to make America succeed which is a desire to work hard to build something for yourself rather than create government controlled communes for people to do as told and get taken care of. I don't know... these are just some thoughts I've had...

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      Interesting points.

      1. The aim is to live in accordance with one's self-interest. All acts are to be judged in accordance with that standard. It is not a given that one should be involved in politics. It is not a given that one should not.

      2. Ayn Rand never claimed that the American system was perfect. What she did deeply revere was the foundational principle of the American republic: the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the most selfish statement in all of political history. She fully recognized that there were deep flaws from the very beginning, most notably the enslavement of black Americans. And she was very critical of religion in America, especially the prominence it was gaining in politics towards the end of her life.

      She was not in favour of rape, though certainly in favour of male sexual dominance. She did think that the proper role of women is male-worship, but only in matters of sex and romance and only towards men who deserve it.

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    • pavlove
      pavlove
      +1 y

      Great points. I think point three, however sound, unnecessarily makes it difficult for some to listen to her fiscal point of view despite the two being separate, but then I guess for her everything is interconnected. I guess if she enjoys engaging in politics and educated the masses then she's still living on her own self interest with the benefit of others being a byproduct.

      "To hold un an unchanging you is the reach, at the end, the vision with which one started."
      One of my favorite quotes of hers.

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    • pavlove
      pavlove
      +1 y

      *unchanging youth

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      People who dislike Ayn Rand will find any excuse to malign her. The false claim that she supported rape is actually one of the more-rarely-raised slanders that I have seen. Her views on selfishness and on government's role in the economy attract by far the most negative attention.

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  • Rufus335
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    Xper 5 Age: 34
    +1 y

    further proof women dont know what they want

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    You are so right, great Take...

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    • evenlift
      evenlift
      +1 y

      Thanks! It's interesting that no girls have posted responses yet (except comments on someone else's response).

      Reply
  • Nightinggale
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    +1 y

    Brilliant myTake. 10/10

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    (36-45)
    +1 y

    Girls just want to have fun

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    • BigJake
      BigJake
      +1 y

      MHO right here. Cyndi Lauper wasn't lyin.

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  • Keepcalm89
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    Xper 6 Age: 41
    +1 y

    *went to grab the popcorn*

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    Women just need to stop whining...

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
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    +1 y

    Women love a bastard.

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