Only women with no self esteem or dignity let men walk all over them. Unfortunately some women favour a good social life or money over a loving and faithful relationship. They just dont have the mental apptitude to care. They should be mad as hell but they just go into denail to protect their lifestyles. Sad isn't it?
@Indigo91 Sort of. I think feminism is designed to help the lower (yes, you read that correct) 20% of ugly, overweight women monopolize the 20% of attractive alpha males. In other words, it is about ugly women wanting to acquire partners out of their league. Consider that feminists actually comprise a small number of the population (despite being vocal) and are almost always ugly and less-than-desirable women.
I think religion can save us, from what you say. I agree, it's changed so much and a caring man, a gentleman is unlikely to be in a relationship for reasons so bizarre. I am one of those guys too, and I have pangs of pain in my chest when my mind thinks of relationship with a woman.
I believe in lifelong marriage (I would only would file for divorce if he ever cheats or hits me) and I'm an atheist. Not sure what does religion have anything to do with it?
Well if you believe that there is a creator of the universe and one day you are going to be judged and that the creator of the universe commands you to not commit adultery and stay in lifelong marriage, then this usually motivates people to put aside their selfish desires and work at the marriage, whereas an unbeliever is under no obligation to obey such a commandment.
Actually even better if I don't believe in any magical beings watching you. I don't cheat because it's not in my character (not because I'm scared some god is going to judge me) and I would not like to be treated that way. I might not be under any obligation but it would still be my free will not to cheat, to say no to cheating. Wouldn't that be even more worthy than just not cheating because it's your obligation or else some supreme being will judged you?
@rjroy3 Actually you don't need to believe in god to know it's know to lie and steal. Isn't it better when you don't know wrong things because you know it's wrong and wouldn't do it, not even if given the chance than just not doing something wrong out of fear of being judged by a so called creator?
Tagged the wrong person lol. But since you did tag me I'll respond anyways.
No, it's not better. It's just better for you. Yes it's true that some people will do the morally right thing, just because that's who they are and they've always been that way since they were young. But there's also those people that just naturally saw nothing wrong with making poor decisions, until they have some negative experience to teach them it's not a good idea. Could be a parent scolding them. Could be they simply messed with the wrong person who made them regret it. Or even simply experiencing guilt from having done something wrong and recognizing it later when they self reflect. Finally realizing they acted like an asshole. I wouldn't call any of the ways of how you got to making morally right decisions, better than other ways. I just care that you got there. Why would I respect someone whose just always been "perfect" over someone who made mistakes and became a better person because of it?
I personally respect people more who have gone through shit and grown more than I do people who are righteous solely because they've always been that way. It's commendable, but I wouldn't say better. I don't relate to that and realistically most people don't.
Yup, and thats why western men marry women of other cultures! No tonly that but western people have no culture, respect or morals! not a close knit family
But more and more men are what "Dr Helen Smith" says "On strike" meaning they don't want marriage or kids anymore. It is becoming more and more common.
Female hypergamy - no matter how much history a man has with a woman, been with her through hard and tough times and has been good to her in relationship. Women are naturally incline to leave him if the prospect of getting with an even better man (looks, money, status) is presented with her.
Even in older times when invading tribes or soldiers invaded an area many women switched sides and started sleeping with the enemy soldiers. Loyalty is not a trait women are known for.
Look around and you will see this is not the only time this sentiment has been repeated, that would suggest its quite prominent. That doesn't mean its all over only that this is an issue and it needs to be addressed by both men and women instead of just men adressing it and women saying that its not an issue when clearly, based upon the statistics and the ancedotes of many many men, it is. The problem is that as a society we allow women considerable leeway that we simply would not tolerate from men. When no fault divorce was introduced it was believed it would destroy the family unit because men would simply abandon their families ripping them apart in order to persue younger women. Turns out the exact opposite happened women ripped families apart while men tried to keep things together (not all women of course). Yet since its women we are willing to let it slide, we immediatley assume their was something wrong with him instead of her when a woman divorces. This is part of the issue.
@hellionthesage The funny thing is that in the back of our minds, we really expect nothing more of women than to take these actions that are self serving. Men created laws to protect ourselves from each other, if not for laws, we'd blame each other for our wives leaving and the murder rate for asserting dominance over a man sleeping with our woman would be through the roof.
@Gommers Well thats part of the problem society and the legal system is designed to mitigate the negative aspects of humanity but in our current society the rules only apply to men allowing women to behave in whatever manner they see fit and not only do they not suffer ramification for it but are frequently rewarded for it. Then to make matters worse other women defend the behavior (most likely due to their 4x greater ingroup prefferences) while men refuse to step up and hold women accountable for their actions.
@hellionthesage We're no longer legally able to hold women accountable. For fuck's sake, it's no longer irresponsible for a woman to have unprotected sex, we pay for their abortions and plan b. Men are and will be on the back burner in the west until we start being able to socially stand up for ourselves and disregard the opinions of women. Until the media flips back to covering stories about people who are ACTUALLY capable of making decisions that benefit society as a whole instead of claiming social change for equality while taking rights away from majorities while doubling the rights of "minorities" and making responsibility of "minorities" nonexistent.
But that makes me every kind of intolerant in the book, disregard the realities of growing up in DC, having friends of every background, race, religion, sex, gender, political affiliation, etc... despite my belief in true equality. I mean really now, I'm still going to be the bad guy somehow.
@Gommers Thats because any one who speaks out against those with power will always be shut down in one way or another. Freedom of speech is only useful for those who are disenfranchised, those who have no other way of addressing grievences, once you remove that they have no way of changing anything.
There has never been a better time to be a man, once you adapt to the reality of today instead of trying to live a faerie story fantasy of the past (which never was).
I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just suggesting an alternative. I have heard that women from poor Asian countries often remain faithful, loving wives to men of developed western countries. I am actually from a third world country (although I am not living there anymore), and the women there used to go berserk over men in developed countries.
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Only women with no self esteem or dignity let men walk all over them. Unfortunately some women favour a good social life or money over a loving and faithful relationship. They just dont have the mental apptitude to care. They should be mad as hell but they just go into denail to protect their lifestyles. Sad isn't it?
How did you reach the conclusion that most girls are like this, dating assholes and idiots. How common is it the cheating you see.
What are these assholes and idiots actually like, that seem to get all these girls.
Here what I am really curious about. These girls you talk about going for these asshole. Describe these girls to me, what are these girls like.
"Women are emotional, rather than logical."
Come and tell this in my class, or any other science class from this whole city, even all Romania.
The Cultural Marxist hate movement known as Feminism has almost killed traditional Western social values.
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwLnIxgOicw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxAljFlb-c
Do you think feminism is designed to eliminate the beta male as a potential partner so women can get access to the 20% of men to have offspring with?
@Indigo91 Sort of. I think feminism is designed to help the lower (yes, you read that correct) 20% of ugly, overweight women monopolize the 20% of attractive alpha males. In other words, it is about ugly women wanting to acquire partners out of their league. Consider that feminists actually comprise a small number of the population (despite being vocal) and are almost always ugly and less-than-desirable women.
I think religion can save us, from what you say. I agree, it's changed so much and a caring man, a gentleman is unlikely to be in a relationship for reasons so bizarre. I am one of those guys too, and I have pangs of pain in my chest when my mind thinks of relationship with a woman.
Perfect picture couple with perfect kids yesterday.
The next day, they just wake up and said to each other.
Husband : honey, i'm into men
Wife: honey, i'm into women
True story from oprah show 😛😮😔
I believe in lifelong marriage (I would only would file for divorce if he ever cheats or hits me) and I'm an atheist. Not sure what does religion have anything to do with it?
Well if you believe that there is a creator of the universe and one day you are going to be judged and that the creator of the universe commands you to not commit adultery and stay in lifelong marriage, then this usually motivates people to put aside their selfish desires and work at the marriage, whereas an unbeliever is under no obligation to obey such a commandment.
^ This
Actually even better if I don't believe in any magical beings watching you. I don't cheat because it's not in my character (not because I'm scared some god is going to judge me) and I would not like to be treated that way.
I might not be under any obligation but it would still be my free will not to cheat, to say no to cheating. Wouldn't that be even more worthy than just not cheating because it's your obligation or else some supreme being will judged you?
@rjroy3 Actually you don't need to believe in god to know it's know to lie and steal. Isn't it better when you don't know wrong things because you know it's wrong and wouldn't do it, not even if given the chance than just not doing something wrong out of fear of being judged by a so called creator?
@rjroy3 ***when you don't do wrong things because you know it's wrong**
Tagged the wrong person lol.
But since you did tag me I'll respond anyways.
No, it's not better. It's just better for you. Yes it's true that some people will do the morally right thing, just because that's who they are and they've always been that way since they were young. But there's also those people that just naturally saw nothing wrong with making poor decisions, until they have some negative experience to teach them it's not a good idea. Could be a parent scolding them. Could be they simply messed with the wrong person who made them regret it. Or even simply experiencing guilt from having done something wrong and recognizing it later when they self reflect. Finally realizing they acted like an asshole. I wouldn't call any of the ways of how you got to making morally right decisions, better than other ways. I just care that you got there. Why would I respect someone whose just always been "perfect" over someone who made mistakes and became a better person because of it?
I personally respect people more who have gone through shit and grown more than I do people who are righteous solely because they've always been that way. It's commendable, but I wouldn't say better. I don't relate to that and realistically most people don't.
You totally missed the point.
Yup, and thats why western men marry women of other cultures!
No tonly that but western people have no culture, respect or morals! not a close knit family
Way to go with the racism.
@ShaeNielson racism or truth?
@singlebee Racism.
@ShaeNielson I think it's Hardcore truth
@singlebee Good for you.
@ShaeNielson actually it's bad for you though
@singlebee Don't think so.
I hope this is not mostly true
Seems a rather apocalyptic view
I mean there may be some truth to it, I'm sure. But... maybe you are making it bigger than it is? I don't know...
I believe in love and commitement and I hope many more people do as well.
He's not. Most women are always searching for the next rung up the social ladder.
@Gommers
sad...
It is actually true. I don't want to argue with you though. :)
But more and more men are what "Dr Helen Smith" says "On strike" meaning they don't want marriage or kids anymore. It is becoming more and more common.
Female hypergamy - no matter how much history a man has with a woman, been with her through hard and tough times and has been good to her in relationship. Women are naturally incline to leave him if the prospect of getting with an even better man (looks, money, status) is presented with her.
Even in older times when invading tribes or soldiers invaded an area many women switched sides and started sleeping with the enemy soldiers. Loyalty is not a trait women are known for.
Women are naturally incline to leave him if the prospect of getting with an even better man (looks, money, status) is presented to her.
Look around and you will see this is not the only time this sentiment has been repeated, that would suggest its quite prominent. That doesn't mean its all over only that this is an issue and it needs to be addressed by both men and women instead of just men adressing it and women saying that its not an issue when clearly, based upon the statistics and the ancedotes of many many men, it is. The problem is that as a society we allow women considerable leeway that we simply would not tolerate from men. When no fault divorce was introduced it was believed it would destroy the family unit because men would simply abandon their families ripping them apart in order to persue younger women. Turns out the exact opposite happened women ripped families apart while men tried to keep things together (not all women of course). Yet since its women we are willing to let it slide, we immediatley assume their was something wrong with him instead of her when a woman divorces. This is part of the issue.
@hellionthesage The funny thing is that in the back of our minds, we really expect nothing more of women than to take these actions that are self serving. Men created laws to protect ourselves from each other, if not for laws, we'd blame each other for our wives leaving and the murder rate for asserting dominance over a man sleeping with our woman would be through the roof.
@Gommers Well thats part of the problem society and the legal system is designed to mitigate the negative aspects of humanity but in our current society the rules only apply to men allowing women to behave in whatever manner they see fit and not only do they not suffer ramification for it but are frequently rewarded for it. Then to make matters worse other women defend the behavior (most likely due to their 4x greater ingroup prefferences) while men refuse to step up and hold women accountable for their actions.
@hellionthesage We're no longer legally able to hold women accountable. For fuck's sake, it's no longer irresponsible for a woman to have unprotected sex, we pay for their abortions and plan b. Men are and will be on the back burner in the west until we start being able to socially stand up for ourselves and disregard the opinions of women. Until the media flips back to covering stories about people who are ACTUALLY capable of making decisions that benefit society as a whole instead of claiming social change for equality while taking rights away from majorities while doubling the rights of "minorities" and making responsibility of "minorities" nonexistent.
But that makes me every kind of intolerant in the book, disregard the realities of growing up in DC, having friends of every background, race, religion, sex, gender, political affiliation, etc... despite my belief in true equality. I mean really now, I'm still going to be the bad guy somehow.
@Gommers Thats because any one who speaks out against those with power will always be shut down in one way or another. Freedom of speech is only useful for those who are disenfranchised, those who have no other way of addressing grievences, once you remove that they have no way of changing anything.
"Women killed chivalry and marriage"
You say that like it's a bad thing.
There has never been a better time to be a man, once you adapt to the reality of today instead of trying to live a faerie story fantasy of the past (which never was).
I duno if they've killed all that stuff, it's just that so many of them, the majority, aren't eligible for it or deserving of it.
^^^^^^
If western women are this much of a problem, consider a mail order bride from a poor country. That should solve your issues!
Thanks but no thanks
I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just suggesting an alternative. I have heard that women from poor Asian countries often remain faithful, loving wives to men of developed western countries. I am actually from a third world country (although I am not living there anymore), and the women there used to go berserk over men in developed countries.
I know what you mean. Everything is backwards. But I believe the problem goes much deeper than this. People need to wake up.
Nah you don't get it they stay with dudes who fuck with their minds because they can make them feel alive
... and as a guy with zero interest in lifelong marriage, I say good riddance.
We get it, you hate women.
Welcome to the generation of complete dumbfucks.
At least we have something to feel so special about.
Not just women men did it too, but the one who was the trigger was media and society
You need toliet paper for all this shit.
I think the same thing every time a feminist opens her mouth to speak.