I disagree with #8 why I have to pay it when we are equal? I'm not interested in gold digger. Otherwise, if I'm not interested in her I still have to pay bill?
Whether it's friends, family, or a date - if you ASK someone for the pleasure of their company, then you offer to pay unless you can both agree on splitting the costs. If a guy asked me out to dinner and a hockey game - dinner maybe $30 per person, tickets being $100 each, and I said yes, but he turned around and said, "Okay your half will be $80." What if I don't have it? Does he awkwardly say, "Okay should we do something cheaper so you can afford it?" Here I am, someone minding my business and being asked out, and then I'm strapped with a bill I didn't expect to pay with someone I have agreed to try to get to know too.
It's the same for anyone asking anyone out, guy or girl. If you extend the invite, you should be prepared to pay for the outing. "Wanna grab some coffee with me?" - said one friend to the other. "Sure," they say. "Good. Um, you gonna bring five bucks with you?" Usually between friends you can establish who pays each time. But big invites? It's courtesy.
Then it's only fair to the girl to be upfront about that. Not many women will object to honesty about money. If you were to say, "I'd love to go to a hockey game with you, but I can't afford another ticket, do you want to go if you can pay this other ticket?" If she likes you and can afford it herself, no doubt she'll agree. But it's unfair to spring it on any person you go someplace with if you're the one doing the inviting, cooking up the plans, and then tell them later on, "I can't believe you didn't pay for half of this." In Europe I guess it's different. Even if it's friends, if someone does the inviting out, it means "I'm 'inviting' you, I'm treating you, I'm asking you to spend time with me if you'll accept." I can't help but notice how cheap some Canadians and Americans are about these things. Even when I ask someone out, and they throw me money later on, I have to remind myself it's because they want to help, not because they are buying their way out of an invite.
@Ozanne Really? this is the first I've heard of it like that, if I ask my friends f they want to hang out I don't pay for them ever. If I'm going on a date then I'll pay half for that I don't expect nothing but his attention and time. Otherwise it's unfair, if the universal rule is three dates to see who is compatible then thats a lot of money he's forking out, I'd hate to have that much spent on me.
@19magic AMEN!!! You nailed it. "Otherwise it's unfair, if the universal rule is three dates to see who is compatible then thats a lot of money he's forking out, I'd hate to have that much spent on me." I think this is the point that gets overlooked so much. And those 3 dates add up if each of the girls decides it's not gonna work after 3 dates. I'm glad someone understands.
@19magic It could just be a generation difference, but it's just a given where I'm from. Perhaps it's a bit more casual in the UK? I've never been there.
@Ozanne I donno haven't really gone out in the big wide world, but I don't think dates are all too common. At least not my generation, and even then it's normally anniversaries between couples. Hell my dad and his partner went on their first date, a kid and four years later. It's normally a group thing or a double/triple date. If not that then a lunch thing.
Now I see why men hire escorts. Its cheaper in the long run.
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Disagree with 8. If the date didn't go well or I'm not interested in her, I'm paying for myself. If it wentwell, I expect her to at least offer to pay before I insist and suggest she pay for the next date.
And if she not? Why do some of you men assume women are just out to score a free meal or think she's a potential gold digger. Some women actually want to peruse a relationship. You can't let women who've done that shady shit scare you into thinking other women will do the same. I'm telling you, it's not a good way and if you continue doing that your going to get swerved a lot.
@BrittBratt2416 "You can't let women who've done that shady shit scare you into thinking other women will do the same. " Isn't this what most women do when they label guys as creeps? Majority of girls on this website will agree that they assume guys they don't know are creeps bc of their own or someone they know's past experience. And women have jobs now. They can pay for themselves. I refuse to believe that women are so fragile that they cannot pay for their own meals. Where the hell is their money going then? Dating can get very expensive, especially with the surprisingly large amount of people out there focused on money/getting a free meal
Its courtesy man.. yes we have jobs but damn you guys are acting like we asking for house, kids, and a wedding ring. It's a gentlemanly thing to do, your asking her out on date the least you could do is pay for dinner... paying for dinner doesn't make us fragile or free loaders. If paying for a dinner is such a huge ordeal I wouldn't bother asking someone out on a date.. to me that says you think I'm worth shit to pay for a small dinner.. when I asked my boyfriend out, I paid.. if he asked me out first he would of done the same.
@BrittBratt2416 you expect a gentleman. Tell me, are you a lady? Do you cook, clean, not have a job, and are subservient to your boyfriend? Yes you have jobs, in fact, in STEM fields, a female is 3 times more likely to get hired than a man when they have the same qualifications. No economist takes the wage gap seriously because by definition it is an average. Furthermore, a study found that in some careers, women working the same jobs as men were earning 1.1% more per hour. So if you are more likely to be hired for higher paying jobs and make slightly more per average, whats the big deal? We don't live in the 1920s anymore, FYI.
@BrittBratt2416 I think you both have good points. But what I think OP was getting at is that (assuming the guy goes on a bunch of dates with a bunch of girls cuz he sucks at dating) dating does get really expensive really fast. Yeah, it may be $20 for one girl, but it adds up real quick. 5 dates is around $100. Which would be a lot to drop just on dating for a month. You're right that girls have jobs too, but we like to have money to spend as well. I also get that whoever asked should pay, and that's my belief. But at some point, it's gotta even out. I wasted (in hindsight) so much money on my last ex. And just looking back at how much was spent makes my wallet hurt. Because I'd always pay for our food while she would treat herself to new clothes (and I'd even get her some of those too -_-). I think a lesson learned is that it's easier to know a girl is financially responsible if she's able to pay for her meal (not meaning that she has to).
I agree with all except #4. I get to the touching almost immediately. If she appears uncomfortable, I know I'm wasting my time. I expect a minimum of a blowjob on a first date. If I don't see that in the cards, it's best to end the date right there, while I still have time to call a fuck buddy.
any guy who does any of this is just a kid not a Man
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OH MY GOD, HOW MANY OF THESE ARE COMMON SENSE? WHY IS IT JUST HITTING ME THAT THESE THINGS ARE ALWAYS BEING TOLD TO PEOPLE AS IF THEY DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW?
Wasn't talking about eight specifically; besides, you said "you asked her to go on a date with you" so I assume it's "you ask, you pay" rules. You wouldn't expect the guy to pay if he was asked out by her, would you?
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I disagree with #8 why I have to pay it when we are equal? I'm not interested in gold digger. Otherwise, if I'm not interested in her I still have to pay bill?
Whether it's friends, family, or a date - if you ASK someone for the pleasure of their company, then you offer to pay unless you can both agree on splitting the costs. If a guy asked me out to dinner and a hockey game - dinner maybe $30 per person, tickets being $100 each, and I said yes, but he turned around and said, "Okay your half will be $80." What if I don't have it? Does he awkwardly say, "Okay should we do something cheaper so you can afford it?" Here I am, someone minding my business and being asked out, and then I'm strapped with a bill I didn't expect to pay with someone I have agreed to try to get to know too.
It's the same for anyone asking anyone out, guy or girl. If you extend the invite, you should be prepared to pay for the outing. "Wanna grab some coffee with me?" - said one friend to the other. "Sure," they say. "Good. Um, you gonna bring five bucks with you?" Usually between friends you can establish who pays each time. But big invites? It's courtesy.
Whoops, math really off, sorry. I meant $65 each. :)
@Ozanne I don't mind to pay cheap somewhere for us but expensive place I rather pay half.
Then it's only fair to the girl to be upfront about that. Not many women will object to honesty about money. If you were to say, "I'd love to go to a hockey game with you, but I can't afford another ticket, do you want to go if you can pay this other ticket?" If she likes you and can afford it herself, no doubt she'll agree. But it's unfair to spring it on any person you go someplace with if you're the one doing the inviting, cooking up the plans, and then tell them later on, "I can't believe you didn't pay for half of this." In Europe I guess it's different. Even if it's friends, if someone does the inviting out, it means "I'm 'inviting' you, I'm treating you, I'm asking you to spend time with me if you'll accept." I can't help but notice how cheap some Canadians and Americans are about these things. Even when I ask someone out, and they throw me money later on, I have to remind myself it's because they want to help, not because they are buying their way out of an invite.
@Ozanne Really? this is the first I've heard of it like that, if I ask my friends f they want to hang out I don't pay for them ever. If I'm going on a date then I'll pay half for that I don't expect nothing but his attention and time. Otherwise it's unfair, if the universal rule is three dates to see who is compatible then thats a lot of money he's forking out, I'd hate to have that much spent on me.
@19magic AMEN!!! You nailed it.
"Otherwise it's unfair, if the universal rule is three dates to see who is compatible then thats a lot of money he's forking out, I'd hate to have that much spent on me."
I think this is the point that gets overlooked so much. And those 3 dates add up if each of the girls decides it's not gonna work after 3 dates. I'm glad someone understands.
@Botchie I seem to be the only one then, on this site lol
@19magic It could just be a generation difference, but it's just a given where I'm from. Perhaps it's a bit more casual in the UK? I've never been there.
@Ozanne I donno haven't really gone out in the big wide world, but I don't think dates are all too common. At least not my generation, and even then it's normally anniversaries between couples. Hell my dad and his partner went on their first date, a kid and four years later.
It's normally a group thing or a double/triple date. If not that then a lunch thing.
I already knew these things
good for you
First one should be Dont go on date ever not even then
If you for some retarded reason ignore first then you continue with your list...
Now I see why men hire escorts. Its cheaper in the long run.
Disagree with 8. If the date didn't go well or I'm not interested in her, I'm paying for myself. If it wentwell, I expect her to at least offer to pay before I insist and suggest she pay for the next date.
That's rude as fuck.
Hahaha you might down vote it but I'm not paying for someone who's on her phone the entire time or is just there for a free meal.
And if she not? Why do some of you men assume women are just out to score a free meal or think she's a potential gold digger. Some women actually want to peruse a relationship. You can't let women who've done that shady shit scare you into thinking other women will do the same. I'm telling you, it's not a good way and if you continue doing that your going to get swerved a lot.
@BrittBratt2416
"You can't let women who've done that shady shit scare you into thinking other women will do the same. "
Isn't this what most women do when they label guys as creeps? Majority of girls on this website will agree that they assume guys they don't know are creeps bc of their own or someone they know's past experience. And women have jobs now. They can pay for themselves. I refuse to believe that women are so fragile that they cannot pay for their own meals. Where the hell is their money going then? Dating can get very expensive, especially with the surprisingly large amount of people out there focused on money/getting a free meal
Its courtesy man.. yes we have jobs but damn you guys are acting like we asking for house, kids, and a wedding ring. It's a gentlemanly thing to do, your asking her out on date the least you could do is pay for dinner... paying for dinner doesn't make us fragile or free loaders. If paying for a dinner is such a huge ordeal I wouldn't bother asking someone out on a date.. to me that says you think I'm worth shit to pay for a small dinner.. when I asked my boyfriend out, I paid.. if he asked me out first he would of done the same.
Ahh whatever's I guess.
@BrittBratt2416 you expect a gentleman. Tell me, are you a lady? Do you cook, clean, not have a job, and are subservient to your boyfriend? Yes you have jobs, in fact, in STEM fields, a female is 3 times more likely to get hired than a man when they have the same qualifications. No economist takes the wage gap seriously because by definition it is an average. Furthermore, a study found that in some careers, women working the same jobs as men were earning 1.1% more per hour. So if you are more likely to be hired for higher paying jobs and make slightly more per average, whats the big deal? We don't live in the 1920s anymore, FYI.
@BrittBratt2416 I think you both have good points. But what I think OP was getting at is that (assuming the guy goes on a bunch of dates with a bunch of girls cuz he sucks at dating) dating does get really expensive really fast. Yeah, it may be $20 for one girl, but it adds up real quick. 5 dates is around $100. Which would be a lot to drop just on dating for a month. You're right that girls have jobs too, but we like to have money to spend as well. I also get that whoever asked should pay, and that's my belief. But at some point, it's gotta even out. I wasted (in hindsight) so much money on my last ex. And just looking back at how much was spent makes my wallet hurt. Because I'd always pay for our food while she would treat herself to new clothes (and I'd even get her some of those too -_-). I think a lesson learned is that it's easier to know a girl is financially responsible if she's able to pay for her meal (not meaning that she has to).
Good luck getting that second date
@pooper89 if she's going to let my not paying for her be the reason she doesn't want a second date, than I definitely don't want to date her anyway
The most are common sense but some guys can use that here i think. Lol at 8 though.
Now all I need is to find a girl.
1 and 6, in my personal experience, are predominantly female habits.
I dont do dates i do meet ups in the bedroom tho :)
The girls hating but the know they do that shit ha.
@Jamesol1 lol fr these girls just wanna live in fairy tale until the guy they like invites them over for a house date in the room or couch haha
I agree with all except #4. I get to the touching almost immediately. If she appears uncomfortable, I know I'm wasting my time. I expect a minimum of a blowjob on a first date. If I don't see that in the cards, it's best to end the date right there, while I still have time to call a fuck buddy.
Wow dude...
@twix005-this guy dosent get a lot of dates anyway. I'm pretty sure he dates his hand more then an actual date
@Quitkyconfidence --Not quite, but think what you will. I doubt my life will be affected a bit.
Quick BJ before desert lol? Other wise she can **** herself... lol died reading that.
any guy who does any of this is just a kid not a Man
OH MY GOD, HOW MANY OF THESE ARE COMMON SENSE? WHY IS IT JUST HITTING ME THAT THESE THINGS ARE ALWAYS BEING TOLD TO PEOPLE AS IF THEY DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW?
All the guys disagree with 8 though.
Wasn't talking about eight specifically; besides, you said "you asked her to go on a date with you" so I assume it's "you ask, you pay" rules. You wouldn't expect the guy to pay if he was asked out by her, would you?
paying on the first date mandatory? so cliche!
Not mandatory... but generous & that's a plus.
It's not mandatory hut if he doesn't pay he won't get another date. How is that not mandatory?
That's totally understood!! The problem is how to go from watshapp messages without answer to a date...
Phew!! glad i'm going gay. Women today... not worth the effort
ohkayy?
The guys of GaG
Half of these things I don't do so yeah what I do seems to be working lol
If my date dressed like the girl in the first photo I'd walk the hell out.
I agree with all those points but if it's a hot girl walking by I'm going to glance over discretely.
He asked you for a date and you agreed. This means the date os as important to you as it is to him. Why should he pay?
Spot on sistaaa