Ah, solipsism on full display. There is simply no shame. :)
Special snowflake is the term that comes to mind. Even more amazing you would spill it all out in a public forum.
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myTake Owner
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Should I be ashamed of anything? Haven't cheated... haven't done anything with anyone who is already in a relationship/married, I tell the truth. I don't anything to be ashamed for.
Unless you're talking about the fact that I was able to have sex outside of a committed relationship without the shame men and women like to give women? Ahh.
Naw, and to be honest it's TLDR anyway. You go on and on and on about YOU and YOUR feelings like they have some kind of validity way past what they are to you in your own head. This is solipsism and you don't even get it. No, just carry on. Keep writing. Maybe you could write a book about it. LOL
My thoughts and my feelings are valid to me and shape the way I see the world. That does not mean I believe my view is only view in the world. Only an ignorant person would say that.
People right books on what they think all they time. And you right now, you think you're smart as fuck and you know everything, so you're the one that needs to calm down.
LOL. Made me laugh at that one. You're really ALL that AND a bag of chips. :) My opinion is irrelevant to you because it doesn't validate your little feelings. But it's YOU that comes onto an open public forum and spew all this bullshit and then hope and pray that everybody will love you for it. Like your five minutes of fame or something. FAIL. Amazing, really. Seriously, write a book. LOL
I certainly didn't think that. I knew people wouldn't like it. However, someone is rude, I will address them. You're coming up with this stuff out nowhere.
@alessandro_02 how? I need facts and details that I think I'm right about everything. I never stated i did. I just talked about how i feel because this post was about who? Me.
Maybe it's because you are a hard ass? That's a joke, but you claim to have high standards but have sex a lot? You sound conflicted
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Can you not have high standards but have sex? Just for clarification, I'm not having sex with everyone, everyday, anytime. I meant, I go and get it when I want it without feeling the shame that comes with wanting no strings attached sex as a woman.
Ask the men that left you because they didn't like that in you. But fine, when you have casual sex like that but claim you want certain moral characteristics it makes you appear as a hypocrite. Why would anyone with those characteristics want a woman you doesn't practice what they preach? A loyal man wouldn't trust a girl with casual sex partners, and why should he?
You can have high morals (sincerity, trust worthy, loyalty, honesty, etc) and still go get your rocks off. Not everyone sits around waiting for their next relationship partner to have sex. There are people who don't get into relationships for years! Casual sex does not equal no morals. Now, if you're an asshole about it and use people under one guise when you know it's another, then your morals and character comes into question.
Again, I wouldn't call casual sex loyalty. Let's look on the outside for a second. A man, who is loyal, wanting a relationship (throw in some sex there cause you seem to like it) would question a woman who has had a past with casual sex. I am sorry, but if you think casual sex doesn't appear as potential, key word potential, disloyalty (or perhaps should I say distrusting?) you are setting yourself up with the wrong guy. I am sure you know what that is like, no shade meaning to be thrown there
How does anyone who has had a casual sex experience before make them less loyal? I need clarification. They aren't dating anyone, no one asked them out, so I don't understand.
Ok, lemme simplify what I am saying, a man wanting a relationship who holds those moral standards meets a girl who engaged in casual sex when she wanted it. he finds out about it, now he is concerned if he can trust her on the basis that he might be just sex for her apetite. this makes him question your morals, for he is unsure if you are actually loyal what I am saying is, your actions speak to him something else than what you might actually feel, and that is why the men you met did not like the casual sex you had in the past it is a turn off for them on the basis they could be casual sex when they want something serious
Is this assuming that man has not had casual sex himself?
I will only accept that if he has not has any casual sexual experiences with any woman. Not touching, not grinding, anything. If he has, he cannot question my past because then that makes him a hypocrite.
faithful to one's sovereign, government, or state faithful to one's oath, commitments, or obligations characterized by or showing faithfulness to commitments, vows, allegiance, obligations, etc.:
I think you are judging me based on your own perception of what loyalty is. From reading your responses, I am getting the idea that you believe people cannot be loyal or faithful in long term relationships if they have engaged in sex outside of a relationship in the past. Is that right?
No. I am explaining why men wouldn't trust you based on the notion they themselves might just be casual sex for your appetite and not something long term
That's where honesty comes into play, not loyalty. And I am honest about my intentions. I have jad men lie to me about their intentions and use me in the end, so I understand.
myTakeOwner, most of these guys would probably have more casual sex if they had the je ne sais quoi or the social life to pull it off. For a decently attractive woman, all she has to do is sit back and wait for men to approach. She is bound to find a man who wants to have sex with her, and for her it can be quite easy to have a fling as long as she has no qualms about being easy. Nothing wrong with that, but I think it is mostly a man's insecurity and envy that leads him to look down on this, not so much a question of loyalty. Loyalty is something one should bring up, and then expect with confidence. A man who is constantly questioning your loyalty is insecure and doesn't trust what you see in him versus casual sex, as obviously a committed relationship consists of more than just sex.
For the guys who do sleep around and still judge women who do, they are of course hypocrites. For the socially stunted ones, if they had more casual sex, they'd probably not care one way or the other.
(continued) This also doesn't take into the account that most strange sex for women, especially ONS, aren't that pleasurable since it is much harder for women to reach orgasm through the act of sex alone. There usually needs to be a emotional and social component too. Friends with benefits are so much more worth it in this regard, or at least, I would assume so.
@freakyzeaky Not entirely accurate. Social life is not a guaranteed factor for a guy to hold an opinion like the one I have. I do agree that if an insecure guy had casual sex he prolly wouldn't care anyways but that doesn't mean it's the case 100%. It is natural to judge someone's loyalty based on a past of multiple sexual partners. Actions speak louder than words
faithful to one's sovereign, government, or state faithful to one's oath, commitments, or obligations characterized by or showing faithfulness to commitments, vows, allegiance, obligations, etc.:
I'm gonna assume you want to win this argument and justify yourself. The discussion boils down to I don't agree with casual sex and you do. So let's leave it at that. Assuming you are what you are claiming, "loyal" "honest" etc. I will concede this argument to your favor. Congratulations, you win. I hope being sexually liberated is worth it
Welcome to the club! I'm actually AroAce and I'm sex repulsed
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I like your no nonsense attitude and uncompromising stand on conformity. Good job seeing past the judgement of others. Guy number 1 has unrealistic expectations and I have a hunch he's making excuses. Never change and it'll pay dividends in our life
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No, you're single because no attractive man wants you. There, I said it. That's the truth. That's all you needed to say.
Wow. As much as I don't agree with the MyTake owners life choices, that is very rude. How would you like it if somebody said that to you? You don't have her life. You don't know what type of people she attracts. Just because somebody likes like Brad Pitt for an example, it doesn't mean you jump up and date them. She made it clear that she wasn't physically attracted to them.
@btbc92 It's pretty damn obvious isn't it? I wouldn't give a shit what someone said to me. And I'm not single anyway.
She's single and spent all this time writing some shitty 'look at me' take about why she's single, no one cares. All she needed to say was "I'm too unattractive or ugly to date the types of guys who I find attractive'. Simple as that, could have been said in less than 20 words rather than this mindless essay.
And that is wrong to be saying. Again, you're wrong. I'm sure she is very much attractive, but at the end of the day, it is also her life. Physical attraction is not everything. She is clearly stating her point of view, why basically everybody in the world thinks hooking up and having sex is 'life'. And just because you're taken I'm sure that is not the attitude your girlfriend would like knowing you think like that. There is no such thing as a physically unattractive person. Just an ugly character and heart. Everybody is physically attractive in their own way. But not everybody is attracted to the same thing. You can't please everybody, and neither should she just to obtain a guy. It makes you look desperate. And that is unattractive.
@btbc92 "I'm sure she is very much attractive" ... And you would know... how?
Look, you can say whatever you like. Fact is you're either single because you want to be or you're single because you can't get anyone who you like to like you back. It's as simple as that.
We don't need '7 reasons why I'm single'. Know one gives a shit. We all know why you're single and it's because of one of those 2 reasons as I stated above and no where did here did I see her say that she NEVER wants a relationship, leaving it pretty obvious that know attractive guy wants her. Simple as that. You cannot argue with that.
"Everyone is physically attractive in their own way". Don't spew bullshit. We all know that there's people out there who very few if not know people will find attractive. I'd rather be around someone who's upfront and honest than someone who pretends to be all nice and spews this 'everyone is attractive' bullshit. We all know's that not true.
Buddy. I'm celibate because I need to. And want to. My reasons for wanting to date was not good nor rationally. It wasn't because I couldn't get anybody to like me. They weren't for me because they have different belief's, views and values than I have. Especially as a Christian. And I'm also different personality wise.
First of all, if you really paid attention, but then again, you said you nobody gives a crap. She said that she had turned down guys! Therefore she is attractive somehow. And if you think that's not true, then why is you with your girlfriend for? There will always be somebody more attractive than you. I guess if she found that person she would leave you huh? Or you would do the same thing? So how is what I said about everybody is attractive in their own unique way BS? She clearly has it in bold that she is not attracted to guys that want her. Point #2, in fact.
So what if you're celebate? I'm not talking about you. And did you now just read where I said 'you're either single because you want to be or you're single because you can't get anyone who you like to like you back'. If you choose to be single, then you fall into the first category. But like I said, I wasn't specifically talking about you.
Secondly. "She said that she had turned down guys! Therefore she is attractive somehow" I didn't say she flat out wasn't attractive. I said she wasn't attractive to attractive guys (I. e guys that she likes).
Because I'm sure there are people out there who NO ONE finds physically attractive. Therefore it is bullshit to say everybody.
I'm with my girlfriend because we both found each other attractive and we've developed a relationship since that.
This girl here is simply trying to get guys that are out of her league and is therefore single. Probably because she's bang average at best.
And what is the difference? At the end of the day, just because she wanted somebody who didn't want her, it doesn't mean she was under his league. There are a lot of factors to consider, and this is why physical attraction should NEVER be the base of finding a partner. Most likely this is not because they didn't find her attractive. But because they were more and likely not emotionally available. And can't or won't give her what she wanted.
@btbc92 ''There are a lot of factors to consider, and this is why physical attraction should NEVER be the base of finding a partner''
even the mytake lady said she doesn't want to date someone she is not attracted too. People are not obligated to date someone they are not attracted too.
I never sugarcoat. The problem with you is that you like that garbage and do what you like to do anyway. I speak from interpersonal experience with many people. I think I made it very clear that she said that about not dating who she isn't attached to. However, that is very immature to be playing that rating game. I find that pathetic.
"and whether we like it or not, looks get people in the front door, the rest follows after." Yeah, and how you guys miss red flags and get's used. I don't feel sorry for you people who do this. People who lack character only go for looks because they have to attract people who are just like them. I tell it for what it is.
''Yeah, and how you guys miss red flags and get's used''
hence, the rest follows after which also includes getting to know people. Who is ''you'' guys are not a collective force, and you know nothing of my character besides a short reply that I sent to you. Besides that, looks are literally a evolutionary trait to increase chances of reproduction and can be seen in ANY species. What I said is a fact. There is a legit reason as to why people look pleasing to the eye, and people more doors open to them because they are attractive. Is that alone a bad thing? You make it seem that way when telling people that they are obligated to date people they aren't attracted too.
@FreedomByChoice No. You start out as friends first, THEN decide. There is no such thing as evolution. This is base on choice and choice alone. They don't have to date anybody. I never say that crap. But what I am saying is for people to stop complaining when they can't get what they want because they keep falling for looks. I turned down anybody no matter how attractive they look. Attraction is not that important to me when I was looking a for a stable marriage partner. That's why I'm telling her her problems now. All I was arguing about is the flaw with your statements.
@btbc92 look it up, because the internet tells the truth. All the internet has done is found a way for you to search your thoughts up, and link you with other people who are just like you so you can feel like you are on to something. That statement alone proved how delusional and detached you are. Besides that, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. people who look pleasing also make friends easier too. For example, someone with tattoos all over their head and a eye patch will not get as much friends as a guy with a neat hairstyle and nice clothes. This is a fact of human nature. We are naturally judgmental to appearance and we are so for good reason. my point is not flawed at all.
What's delusional is your way of thinking. You think because I say what I say, that I don't know what I'm talking about. Just because we are judgmental by nature, it doesn't mean you abuse that power. That's where you cross the line. " All the internet has done is found a way for you to search your thoughts up, and link you with other people who are just like you so you can feel like you are on to something. That statement alone proved how delusional and detached you are. " So in that statement alone, what makes you think you're qualified to say evolution is true? Your no scientist. You just proved that it's a changed variable like scientist and people. At least I use my head and think outside the box. Not following what somebody says and think it's true.
@btbc92 at this point I am seriously concerned because you literally make no sense. you are right, the things you say really do make me think that you are really detached from reality, and the OP even says the same. first of all, nobody said ANYTHING about ''abusing'' it, I said we are naturally judgmental which is a big reason for our survival in the first place as I gave the examples of peoples appearances and how they carry themselves. its THAT simple. Second, I study various fields of science. Maybe not specifically bio and anthropology but I do understand the basis which has hundreds of years of revision and strong backing evidence to it opposed to a couple of articles you read online. Trying to be different on purpose and ''think outside the box'' just so you can disagree with everyone else does not mean you are open minded, it just makes you a fraud.
and with that said, you further proved my point of thinking you are on to something just because you searched it up, and found some other tin foil hat people who think like you. Its not like you are on to something, its just that the internet does a better job at connecting you with these people. You should also visit the flat earthers pages too. They also ''think outside the box''
@FreedomByChoice I don't think you're seriously concerned about anything. You clearly made it clear that don't care and only think about what you personally want to think about. I don't have to search everything online for something you can clearly see and evaluate in real life. Being open-minded does don't mean you just accept every and anything. It means your process the information and eliminate things that are invalid.
"Trying to be different on purpose and ''think outside the box'' just so you can disagree with everyone else does not mean you are open minded, it just makes you a fraud." Who says I'm doing this. Already putting things in my mouth just because you disagree. Only time will tell. Being hard of hearing is what get's people into trouble. I am very much, in tune to everything around me, including this world, the people, nature, everything. And it is far from what is being told and taught. Besides, you're not the only one who studies different sciences.
Lots of things I have talked about have been backed up science-wise. But why should I continue going back and forth with you? You already made it clear that you believe what you want while accusing me as being detached. Of course, I don't make sense to you. Your deaf and blind to things you don't care to know except what you've been taught in school. It's your life to live. You will have to figure that out. And what I said about abusing that knowledge, is exactly what you're doing. Using physical appearance as an excuse to use that judgment on her.
@btbc92 ''You clearly made it clear that don't care and only think about what you personally want to think about.''
thats pretty much what you have done too.
''you can clearly see and evaluate in real life''
then tell me, what have you seen in real life that made you think evolution is fake?
''It means your process the information and eliminate things that are invalid. ''
thats ironic coming from you
''I am very much, in tune to everything around me, including this world, the people, nature, everything. And it is far from what is being told and taught. ''
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'' Besides, you're not the only one who studies different sciences''
ok, I didn't say I was
''But why should I continue going back and forth with you''
yet you just wasted 2 long replies on me running around in circles. You have failed to even go further into anything you sya. All you say is ''time will tell'' ''I am in tune with nature'' then you continue to act self righteous and tell people they are obligated to..
@btbc92 date people they aren't even attracted too, or its wrong that our human mind automatically judges. this is NOT learned behavior, it is instinct developed for our survival. I implore you to get help.
Look, I'm not going to keep repeating myself over and over again. I overall care about what others needs, otherwise, I wouldn't be wasting my time with hardheaded people who don't want to listen.
"thats pretty much what you have done too." Yeah, how so? Because I explained things that are concrete to reality, while you want to explain things based on how you personally feel?
"then tell me, what have you seen in real life that made you think evolution is fake? " From everything and everybody in life. How animals react, understand, how we communicate, bond, build mutual understanding through connects to nature, people and our everyday experiences. Our anatomy, or food, education system. Everything being interconnected. Things that aren't tangible but intangible. Like I told another person. Scientist claims the sun has been around for billions of years. How can we actually measure that when actually follow a Gregorian system? It is impossible. The Jewish
calender is as follows from sundown to sunrise, just like how Muslims worship and do prayer and or fasting. Our calender system is of pagan roots that hold no actual merit. Therefore if the example year in the Jewish calender is over 5000 years, then HOW did we get from 5000+ to 5 billion? Let me even further clarify.
Of the oldest text in the world, that would be the Bible, which many secular people disdain. Yet, is almost all of the countries in the world hold similar and related text dating back to Jesus' time on earth and even further back. If evolution was so true, then how come we never advanced in intelligence that even the ancients can do better? We've been getting dumber, not smarter. Simple. Because evolution is a man-made construct designed to deliberately change your genetic code, as well as the genetic codes of every living creature, whether animated or inanimate. How? By Our food and water supply.
Another example is genetic mutations. Also mentioned in the Bible due to
incest by having sex with related family members, animals which is bestiality, sodomy, and having sex with supernatural forces. Things that we consider as MYTHS today. Greek, Egyptian, Roman, Norse, etc deities talks of things that happened in the distant past. A past that even scientist can't even describe, but is only able to be talked about as 'fiction'. Again, look at trees and plants. They can survive for 100's of years, yet they still say how the earth has been around for how long? 4.75 Billion years old. Impossible. The earth is not that old. We would be long gone dead and everything here would be considered as inhabitable. As in no living creature can survive. It is inclusive. They cannot give you data that is relevant to our survival as the human race. So their only option to people is to depopulate the world. Our natural resources have been depleting for ages.
Another perfect example for evolution to be false. If the big bang theory was true, and space have photons and
neurons, then how is it we do not have those same compounds? Yet again, claimed we evolved from monkeys. Another bogus lie. We act far dumber than the animals themselves. But I need help? Your right, to get away from you crazy people who can't think for yourself but wants to go by what you're conditioned to in school and call it logical. Simple DNA extraction lab you do in your biological course is proof that evolution is false. Everything was designed in it's proper order.
" then you continue to act self righteous and tell people they are obligated to.." First of all, again, I don't have to tell people anything they don't want to do. If they want to suffer, then let them go ahead. It's not my life. But one thing I cannot stand is excuses and then talk about how they want help. People who truly want help listen, not just hear. Be doers, not just hearers. You think I act that way because you know the truth. All I have to do is go about myself and not worry about it. So goodbye.
its bible thumpers like you that truly turn people off from religion, and this is coming from a Buddhist himself. you self righteous and self projecting all together. ''the bible is the oldest text in the world'' ''Again, look at trees and plants. They can survive for 100's of years, yet they still say how the earth has been around for how long?'' quotes like these just give me more understanding on just how clueless you really are although I can't say it wasn't expected though. I seen this coming as soon as you started talking about evolution being fake. With all of that crazy i just read this is the last reply you are getting from me. keep your crazy contained.
Reasons why I'm single. 1- I'm almost broke. 2- I'm ugly. 3- I'm shy when it comes to romance.
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Anonymous
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"If I like a guy I'm seeing I will have sex with him. Basically the same things men do" This one sentence is the biggest issue with "Modern Women". Stop trying to be like men. You have to be yourself and trying to be like guys wouldn't help you one bit. Remember what women look for men, is different from want men look for in women. So we aren't judge the same. If you understand that simple concept , your luck with guys would change.
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What makes sex different between men and women? How does that affect what each is looking for in another?
Is it unfair? 1) the majority of men don't sleep around. 2) The majority of women wouldn't date a men who sleeps around, because they would think he is a fuckboy. If you really think about it, women (majority) aren't very attracted to guys that sleep around, and men ( the majority) don't also like women who sleeps around.
If I were you, keep your sex life private and don't share it with others.
The fact that you did understand what I just pointed out is the reason you are having relationship problems. You totally missed my whole point because you are taking a non-issue personal. I was trying to help you, not judge you, but you are only getting offended and defensive for no reason.
myTake Owner, women judge men too and on far more personal reasons than just how many sex partners or sexual acts he has. Men get judged on how funny he is, how charming he is, how much money he may or may not make, whether he is "manly" or "too sensitive", and so many other traits. Many men have traits they look for too, but I believe for most, they aren't as strict and tend to respect women as unique in their personalities and try to take the woman as a total package rather than virtues vs. flaws.
As I have always said, it is as if men must "become" whereas women can simply "be" to be acceptable in dating and relationships. It is this "right of passage" and the never-ending courtship that puts tons of pressure. Don't get me wrong, women have pressures too, especially physical attraction, but these pressures are far more superficial, where as men it is much more to the core of his being.
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You're list here seems to eliminate every person on the planet. Broaden your horizons, anon.
Just from reading this I already know what kind of person you are. Remember, you cannot die alone if you have cats!
trashy/10
You "don't know how to pick decent men."
You can change that. Define 'decent for yourself. Then pick your choice.
way too much pride, I've seen such kinda girls end up with the nerdiest person in class.
What makes you say i have too much pride?
everything women.
I can definitely relate to some of those, but it's really not for lack of desire that I'm single😂
I do applaud you for the self-awareness of knowing you have problems picking decent men.
Many women have this issue but won't admit that. :-P
There's always that one guy that steals the show. He's an asshat but a damn fine one. Been there!
You don't have to sleep with everyone in town to be "sexually liberated." You must be very young
I don't. I said that.
Ah, solipsism on full display. There is simply no shame. :)
Special snowflake is the term that comes to mind. Even more amazing you would spill it all out in a public forum.
Should I be ashamed of anything? Haven't cheated... haven't done anything with anyone who is already in a relationship/married, I tell the truth. I don't anything to be ashamed for.
Unless you're talking about the fact that I was able to have sex outside of a committed relationship without the shame men and women like to give women? Ahh.
Naw, and to be honest it's TLDR anyway. You go on and on and on about YOU and YOUR feelings like they have some kind of validity way past what they are to you in your own head. This is solipsism and you don't even get it.
No, just carry on. Keep writing. Maybe you could write a book about it. LOL
Lol you and your opinion is so irrelevant
My thoughts and my feelings are valid to me and shape the way I see the world. That does not mean I believe my view is only view in the world. Only an ignorant person would say that.
People right books on what they think all they time. And you right now, you think you're smart as fuck and you know everything, so you're the one that needs to calm down.
LOL. Made me laugh at that one. You're really ALL that AND a bag of chips. :)
My opinion is irrelevant to you because it doesn't validate your little feelings. But it's YOU that comes onto an open public forum and spew all this bullshit and then hope and pray that everybody will love you for it. Like your five minutes of fame or something. FAIL.
Amazing, really. Seriously, write a book. LOL
I certainly didn't think that. I knew people wouldn't like it. However, someone is rude, I will address them. You're coming up with this stuff out nowhere.
He's not playing smart. He just exposed your solipsism and he actually went short because you are clearly narcissistic. But who cares anyway
@alessandro_02 how? I need facts and details that I think I'm right about everything. I never stated i did. I just talked about how i feel because this post was about who? Me.
I love when people say shit like your standards are too high, you're too picky, etc. So it's like wait, am i supposed to settle?
If you rule out every guy with a low IQ, lizard tongue or explosive violent temper of course you're gonna be lonely and single.
Maybe it's because you are a hard ass? That's a joke, but you claim to have high standards but have sex a lot? You sound conflicted
Can you not have high standards but have sex? Just for clarification, I'm not having sex with everyone, everyday, anytime. I meant, I go and get it when I want it without feeling the shame that comes with wanting no strings attached sex as a woman.
"No strings attached" but high standards lol. Loving that confliction there
Explain how that contradicts one another, becsuse I don't understand.
*because
Ask the men that left you because they didn't like that in you. But fine, when you have casual sex like that but claim you want certain moral characteristics it makes you appear as a hypocrite. Why would anyone with those characteristics want a woman you doesn't practice what they preach? A loyal man wouldn't trust a girl with casual sex partners, and why should he?
Wait a minute. There are loyal men who have sex all the time. So why is it wrong for me and not for them?
Citation needed. Name one
You can have high morals (sincerity, trust worthy, loyalty, honesty, etc) and still go get your rocks off. Not everyone sits around waiting for their next relationship partner to have sex. There are people who don't get into relationships for years! Casual sex does not equal no morals. Now, if you're an asshole about it and use people under one guise when you know it's another, then your morals and character comes into question.
I'll give you one when you give me one.
Again, I wouldn't call casual sex loyalty. Let's look on the outside for a second. A man, who is loyal, wanting a relationship (throw in some sex there cause you seem to like it) would question a woman who has had a past with casual sex. I am sorry, but if you think casual sex doesn't appear as potential, key word potential, disloyalty (or perhaps should I say distrusting?) you are setting yourself up with the wrong guy. I am sure you know what that is like, no shade meaning to be thrown there
I still don't understand.
How does anyone who has had a casual sex experience before make them less loyal? I need clarification. They aren't dating anyone, no one asked them out, so I don't understand.
Ok, lemme simplify what I am saying,
a man wanting a relationship who holds those moral standards meets a girl who engaged in casual sex when she wanted it.
he finds out about it, now he is concerned if he can trust her on the basis that he might be just sex for her apetite.
this makes him question your morals, for he is unsure if you are actually loyal
what I am saying is, your actions speak to him something else than what you might actually feel, and that is why the men you met did not like the casual sex you had in the past
it is a turn off for them on the basis they could be casual sex when they want something serious
Is this assuming that man has not had casual sex himself?
I will only accept that if he has not has any casual sexual experiences with any woman. Not touching, not grinding, anything. If he has, he cannot question my past because then that makes him a hypocrite.
Yes, this is assuming he does not engage in casual sex. It would indeed make him a hypocrite otherwise
But thats not everyone, right?
Definition of loyal:
faithful to one's sovereign, government, or state
faithful to one's oath, commitments, or obligations
characterized by or showing faithfulness to commitments, vows, allegiance, obligations, etc.:
It's not, unfortunately. But those guys do exist
I think you are judging me based on your own perception of what loyalty is. From reading your responses, I am getting the idea that you believe people cannot be loyal or faithful in long term relationships if they have engaged in sex outside of a relationship in the past. Is that right?
I know what loyalty is. I am explaining why a man would think you wouldn't be loyal on the basis of your past
No. I am explaining why men wouldn't trust you based on the notion they themselves might just be casual sex for your appetite and not something long term
Assuming you want someone who is moral
I have never cheated or betrayed past partners, friends or family. So yeah, I think that makes me quite loyal.
Tell that to the men who left you because of your past then
That's where honesty comes into play, not loyalty. And I am honest about my intentions. I have jad men lie to me about their intentions and use me in the end, so I understand.
That's fair, hope you find what you are looking for, best of luck
myTakeOwner, most of these guys would probably have more casual sex if they had the je ne sais quoi or the social life to pull it off. For a decently attractive woman, all she has to do is sit back and wait for men to approach. She is bound to find a man who wants to have sex with her, and for her it can be quite easy to have a fling as long as she has no qualms about being easy. Nothing wrong with that, but I think it is mostly a man's insecurity and envy that leads him to look down on this, not so much a question of loyalty. Loyalty is something one should bring up, and then expect with confidence. A man who is constantly questioning your loyalty is insecure and doesn't trust what you see in him versus casual sex, as obviously a committed relationship consists of more than just sex.
For the guys who do sleep around and still judge women who do, they are of course hypocrites. For the socially stunted ones, if they had more casual sex, they'd probably not care one way or the other.
(continued) This also doesn't take into the account that most strange sex for women, especially ONS, aren't that pleasurable since it is much harder for women to reach orgasm through the act of sex alone. There usually needs to be a emotional and social component too. Friends with benefits are so much more worth it in this regard, or at least, I would assume so.
@freakyzeaky Not entirely accurate. Social life is not a guaranteed factor for a guy to hold an opinion like the one I have. I do agree that if an insecure guy had casual sex he prolly wouldn't care anyways but that doesn't mean it's the case 100%. It is natural to judge someone's loyalty based on a past of multiple sexual partners. Actions speak louder than words
Hey, here's the definiton of loyal:
faithful to one's sovereign, government, or state
faithful to one's oath, commitments, or obligations
characterized by or showing faithfulness to commitments, vows, allegiance, obligations, etc.:
I don't commit treason. I haven't betrayed or hurt my family or friends. I always go to work and class. I keep my commitments. So no loyalty there.
No I take it back, you are a hard ass, and I respect that
I'm gonna assume you want to win this argument and justify yourself. The discussion boils down to I don't agree with casual sex and you do. So let's leave it at that. Assuming you are what you are claiming, "loyal" "honest" etc. I will concede this argument to your favor. Congratulations, you win. I hope being sexually liberated is worth it
Welcome to the club!
I'm actually AroAce and I'm sex repulsed
I like your no nonsense attitude and uncompromising stand on conformity. Good job seeing past the judgement of others. Guy number 1 has unrealistic expectations and I have a hunch he's making excuses. Never change and it'll pay dividends in our life
No, you're single because no attractive man wants you. There, I said it. That's the truth. That's all you needed to say.
Wow. As much as I don't agree with the MyTake owners life choices, that is very rude. How would you like it if somebody said that to you? You don't have her life. You don't know what type of people she attracts. Just because somebody likes like Brad Pitt for an example, it doesn't mean you jump up and date them. She made it clear that she wasn't physically attracted to them.
@btbc92 It's pretty damn obvious isn't it? I wouldn't give a shit what someone said to me. And I'm not single anyway.
She's single and spent all this time writing some shitty 'look at me' take about why she's single, no one cares. All she needed to say was "I'm too unattractive or ugly to date the types of guys who I find attractive'. Simple as that, could have been said in less than 20 words rather than this mindless essay.
And that is wrong to be saying. Again, you're wrong. I'm sure she is very much attractive, but at the end of the day, it is also her life. Physical attraction is not everything. She is clearly stating her point of view, why basically everybody in the world thinks hooking up and having sex is 'life'. And just because you're taken I'm sure that is not the attitude your girlfriend would like knowing you think like that. There is no such thing as a physically unattractive person. Just an ugly character and heart. Everybody is physically attractive in their own way. But not everybody is attracted to the same thing. You can't please everybody, and neither should she just to obtain a guy. It makes you look desperate. And that is unattractive.
Lol.
@btbc92 "I'm sure she is very much attractive" ... And you would know... how?
Look, you can say whatever you like. Fact is you're either single because you want to be or you're single because you can't get anyone who you like to like you back. It's as simple as that.
We don't need '7 reasons why I'm single'. Know one gives a shit. We all know why you're single and it's because of one of those 2 reasons as I stated above and no where did here did I see her say that she NEVER wants a relationship, leaving it pretty obvious that know attractive guy wants her. Simple as that. You cannot argue with that.
"Everyone is physically attractive in their own way". Don't spew bullshit. We all know that there's people out there who very few if not know people will find attractive. I'd rather be around someone who's upfront and honest than someone who pretends to be all nice and spews this 'everyone is attractive' bullshit. We all know's that not true.
Excuse my repetitive use of 'know' instead of 'no' and any other shitty grammar. I'm quite tired, lol.
Buddy. I'm celibate because I need to. And want to. My reasons for wanting to date was not good nor rationally. It wasn't because I couldn't get anybody to like me. They weren't for me because they have different belief's, views and values than I have. Especially as a Christian. And I'm also different personality wise.
First of all, if you really paid attention, but then again, you said you nobody gives a crap. She said that she had turned down guys! Therefore she is attractive somehow. And if you think that's not true, then why is you with your girlfriend for? There will always be somebody more attractive than you. I guess if she found that person she would leave you huh? Or you would do the same thing? So how is what I said about everybody is attractive in their own unique way BS? She clearly has it in bold that she is not attracted to guys that want her. Point #2, in fact.
@btbc92 Your comprehension is crap.
So what if you're celebate? I'm not talking about you. And did you now just read where I said 'you're either single because you want to be or you're single because you can't get anyone who you like to like you back'. If you choose to be single, then you fall into the first category. But like I said, I wasn't specifically talking about you.
Secondly. "She said that she had turned down guys! Therefore she is attractive somehow" I didn't say she flat out wasn't attractive. I said she wasn't attractive to attractive guys (I. e guys that she likes).
Because I'm sure there are people out there who NO ONE finds physically attractive. Therefore it is bullshit to say everybody.
I'm with my girlfriend because we both found each other attractive and we've developed a relationship since that.
This girl here is simply trying to get guys that are out of her league and is therefore single. Probably because she's bang average at best.
And what is the difference? At the end of the day, just because she wanted somebody who didn't want her, it doesn't mean she was under his league. There are a lot of factors to consider, and this is why physical attraction should NEVER be the base of finding a partner. Most likely this is not because they didn't find her attractive. But because they were more and likely not emotionally available. And can't or won't give her what she wanted.
@btbc92 And how would you know? 'Not emotionally available' lol, you're just trying to sugar coat everything.
She's single because the guys who like her are unattractive and the guys she likes find her unattractive. Making her 5 at best.
@btbc92 ''There are a lot of factors to consider, and this is why physical attraction should NEVER be the base of finding a partner''
even the mytake lady said she doesn't want to date someone she is not attracted too. People are not obligated to date someone they are not attracted too.
and whether we like it or not, looks get people in the front door, the rest follows after.
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I've never seen such an alpha response in a long time. You hit the nail on the head.
Her pool of men is small because she's not hot enough
I'm sugarcoating?
I never sugarcoat. The problem with you is that you like that garbage and do what you like to do anyway. I speak from interpersonal experience with many people. I think I made it very clear that she said that about not dating who she isn't attached to. However, that is very immature to be playing that rating game. I find that pathetic.
"and whether we like it or not, looks get people in the front door, the rest follows after." Yeah, and how you guys miss red flags and get's used. I don't feel sorry for you people who do this. People who lack character only go for looks because they have to attract people who are just like them. I tell it for what it is.
@btbc92
''Yeah, and how you guys miss red flags and get's used''
hence, the rest follows after which also includes getting to know people. Who is ''you'' guys are not a collective force, and you know nothing of my character besides a short reply that I sent to you. Besides that, looks are literally a evolutionary trait to increase chances of reproduction and can be seen in ANY species. What I said is a fact. There is a legit reason as to why people look pleasing to the eye, and people more doors open to them because they are attractive. Is that alone a bad thing? You make it seem that way when telling people that they are obligated to date people they aren't attracted too.
@FreedomByChoice No. You start out as friends first, THEN decide. There is no such thing as evolution. This is base on choice and choice alone. They don't have to date anybody. I never say that crap. But what I am saying is for people to stop complaining when they can't get what they want because they keep falling for looks. I turned down anybody no matter how attractive they look. Attraction is not that important to me when I was looking a for a stable marriage partner. That's why I'm telling her her problems now. All I was arguing about is the flaw with your statements.
@btbc92 ''. There is no such thing as evolution.''
goodbye LOL
stopped reading there, and can't stop laughing either
@FreedomByChoice
Look it up. They debunked that nonsense since last year. Keep believing that then. But my opinion still stands.
@btbc92 look it up, because the internet tells the truth. All the internet has done is found a way for you to search your thoughts up, and link you with other people who are just like you so you can feel like you are on to something. That statement alone proved how delusional and detached you are. Besides that, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. people who look pleasing also make friends easier too. For example, someone with tattoos all over their head and a eye patch will not get as much friends as a guy with a neat hairstyle and nice clothes. This is a fact of human nature. We are naturally judgmental to appearance and we are so for good reason. my point is not flawed at all.
@FreedomByChoice
What's delusional is your way of thinking. You think because I say what I say, that I don't know what I'm talking about. Just because we are judgmental by nature, it doesn't mean you abuse that power. That's where you cross the line. " All the internet has done is found a way for you to search your thoughts up, and link you with other people who are just like you so you can feel like you are on to something. That statement alone proved how delusional and detached you are. " So in that statement alone, what makes you think you're qualified to say evolution is true? Your no scientist. You just proved that it's a changed variable like scientist and people. At least I use my head and think outside the box. Not following what somebody says and think it's true.
LOL. I've been out of this but are we now trying to claim evolution doesn't exist? What a complete joke.
Btbc92 I apologize. I thought you were just deluded, I didn't realize you were actually a complete, raving lunatic. Conversation over.
Whatever you say, buddy. You'll figure it out one day. It's not my place.
@btbc92 at this point I am seriously concerned because you literally make no sense. you are right, the things you say really do make me think that you are really detached from reality, and the OP even says the same. first of all, nobody said ANYTHING about ''abusing'' it, I said we are naturally judgmental which is a big reason for our survival in the first place as I gave the examples of peoples appearances and how they carry themselves. its THAT simple. Second, I study various fields of science. Maybe not specifically bio and anthropology but I do understand the basis which has hundreds of years of revision and strong backing evidence to it opposed to a couple of articles you read online. Trying to be different on purpose and ''think outside the box'' just so you can disagree with everyone else does not mean you are open minded, it just makes you a fraud.
and with that said, you further proved my point of thinking you are on to something just because you searched it up, and found some other tin foil hat people who think like you. Its not like you are on to something, its just that the internet does a better job at connecting you with these people. You should also visit the flat earthers pages too. They also ''think outside the box''
@FreedomByChoice I don't think you're seriously concerned about anything. You clearly made it clear that don't care and only think about what you personally want to think about. I don't have to search everything online for something you can clearly see and evaluate in real life. Being open-minded does don't mean you just accept every and anything. It means your process the information and eliminate things that are invalid.
"Trying to be different on purpose and ''think outside the box'' just so you can disagree with everyone else does not mean you are open minded, it just makes you a fraud." Who says I'm doing this. Already putting things in my mouth just because you disagree. Only time will tell. Being hard of hearing is what get's people into trouble. I am very much, in tune to everything around me, including this world, the people, nature, everything. And it is far from what is being told and taught. Besides, you're not the only one who studies different sciences.
Lots of things I have talked about have been backed up science-wise. But why should I continue going back and forth with you? You already made it clear that you believe what you want while accusing me as being detached. Of course, I don't make sense to you. Your deaf and blind to things you don't care to know except what you've been taught in school. It's your life to live. You will have to figure that out. And what I said about abusing that knowledge, is exactly what you're doing. Using physical appearance as an excuse to use that judgment on her.
@btbc92 ''You clearly made it clear that don't care and only think about what you personally want to think about.''
thats pretty much what you have done too.
''you can clearly see and evaluate in real life''
then tell me, what have you seen in real life that made you think evolution is fake?
''It means your process the information and eliminate things that are invalid. ''
thats ironic coming from you
''I am very much, in tune to everything around me, including this world, the people, nature, everything. And it is far from what is being told and taught. ''
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'' Besides, you're not the only one who studies different sciences''
ok, I didn't say I was
''But why should I continue going back and forth with you''
yet you just wasted 2 long replies on me running around in circles. You have failed to even go further into anything you sya. All you say is ''time will tell'' ''I am in tune with nature'' then you continue to act self righteous and tell people they are obligated to..
@btbc92 date people they aren't even attracted too, or its wrong that our human mind automatically judges. this is NOT learned behavior, it is instinct developed for our survival. I implore you to get help.
@FreedomByChoice
Look, I'm not going to keep repeating myself over and over again. I overall care about what others needs, otherwise, I wouldn't be wasting my time with hardheaded people who don't want to listen.
"thats pretty much what you have done too." Yeah, how so? Because I explained things that are concrete to reality, while you want to explain things based on how you personally feel?
"then tell me, what have you seen in real life that made you think evolution is fake? " From everything and everybody in life. How animals react, understand, how we communicate, bond, build mutual understanding through connects to nature, people and our everyday experiences. Our anatomy, or food, education system. Everything being interconnected. Things that aren't tangible but intangible. Like I told another person. Scientist claims the sun has been around for billions of years. How can we actually measure that when actually follow a Gregorian system? It is impossible. The Jewish
calender is as follows from sundown to sunrise, just like how Muslims worship and do prayer and or fasting. Our calender system is of pagan roots that hold no actual merit. Therefore if the example year in the Jewish calender is over 5000 years, then HOW did we get from 5000+ to 5 billion? Let me even further clarify.
Of the oldest text in the world, that would be the Bible, which many secular people disdain. Yet, is almost all of the countries in the world hold similar and related text dating back to Jesus' time on earth and even further back. If evolution was so true, then how come we never advanced in intelligence that even the ancients can do better? We've been getting dumber, not smarter. Simple. Because evolution is a man-made construct designed to deliberately change your genetic code, as well as the genetic codes of every living creature, whether animated or inanimate. How? By Our food and water supply.
Another example is genetic mutations. Also mentioned in the Bible due to
incest by having sex with related family members, animals which is bestiality, sodomy, and having sex with supernatural forces. Things that we consider as MYTHS today. Greek, Egyptian, Roman, Norse, etc deities talks of things that happened in the distant past. A past that even scientist can't even describe, but is only able to be talked about as 'fiction'. Again, look at trees and plants. They can survive for 100's of years, yet they still say how the earth has been around for how long? 4.75 Billion years old. Impossible. The earth is not that old. We would be long gone dead and everything here would be considered as inhabitable. As in no living creature can survive. It is inclusive. They cannot give you data that is relevant to our survival as the human race. So their only option to people is to depopulate the world. Our natural resources have been depleting for ages.
Another perfect example for evolution to be false. If the big bang theory was true, and space have photons and
neurons, then how is it we do not have those same compounds? Yet again, claimed we evolved from monkeys. Another bogus lie. We act far dumber than the animals themselves. But I need help? Your right, to get away from you crazy people who can't think for yourself but wants to go by what you're conditioned to in school and call it logical. Simple DNA extraction lab you do in your biological course is proof that evolution is false. Everything was designed in it's proper order.
" then you continue to act self righteous and tell people they are obligated to.." First of all, again, I don't have to tell people anything they don't want to do. If they want to suffer, then let them go ahead. It's not my life. But one thing I cannot stand is excuses and then talk about how they want help. People who truly want help listen, not just hear. Be doers, not just hearers. You think I act that way because you know the truth. All I have to do is go about myself and not worry about it. So goodbye.
its bible thumpers like you that truly turn people off from religion, and this is coming from a Buddhist himself. you self righteous and self projecting all together. ''the bible is the oldest text in the world'' ''Again, look at trees and plants. They can survive for 100's of years, yet they still say how the earth has been around for how long?'' quotes like these just give me more understanding on just how clueless you really are although I can't say it wasn't expected though. I seen this coming as soon as you started talking about evolution being fake. With all of that crazy i just read this is the last reply you are getting from me. keep your crazy contained.
Reasons why I'm single.
1- I'm almost broke.
2- I'm ugly.
3- I'm shy when it comes to romance.
"If I like a guy I'm seeing I will have sex with him. Basically the same things men do" This one sentence is the biggest issue with "Modern Women". Stop trying to be like men. You have to be yourself and trying to be like guys wouldn't help you one bit. Remember what women look for men, is different from want men look for in women. So we aren't judge the same. If you understand that simple concept , your luck with guys would change.
What makes sex different between men and women? How does that affect what each is looking for in another?
"Unfortunately most men, men who I happen to like, do not like that in women. It makes me easy, undateable, whatever" ... you answered that yourself.
And I also said I don't understand why when men do the same things.
It isn't fair, really.
Is it unfair?
1) the majority of men don't sleep around.
2) The majority of women wouldn't date a men who sleeps around, because they would think he is a fuckboy.
If you really think about it, women (majority) aren't very attracted to guys that sleep around, and men ( the majority) don't also like women who sleeps around.
If I were you, keep your sex life private and don't share it with others.
Woah... there are a lot of men who have had casual sex partners.
I do not sleep around. I have had casual sex partners. Lawd. How hard is that to understand
The fact that you did understand what I just pointed out is the reason you are having relationship problems. You totally missed my whole point because you are taking a non-issue personal.
I was trying to help you, not judge you, but you are only getting offended and defensive for no reason.
Whats the reason I'm having relationship problems?
The other men judged me. I apologize.
myTake Owner, women judge men too and on far more personal reasons than just how many sex partners or sexual acts he has. Men get judged on how funny he is, how charming he is, how much money he may or may not make, whether he is "manly" or "too sensitive", and so many other traits. Many men have traits they look for too, but I believe for most, they aren't as strict and tend to respect women as unique in their personalities and try to take the woman as a total package rather than virtues vs. flaws.
As I have always said, it is as if men must "become" whereas women can simply "be" to be acceptable in dating and relationships. It is this "right of passage" and the never-ending courtship that puts tons of pressure. Don't get me wrong, women have pressures too, especially physical attraction, but these pressures are far more superficial, where as men it is much more to the core of his being.
Nothing wrong with being single. I enjoy the freedom of being single myself.
I understand your list, but I think being 22 and still living at home indicates that you are far from a place to settle down anyway...
Plenty of people date while they luce with their parents.
Exactly, being 22 and living at home indicates you are not ready to settle down. Dating is ok, but it shouldn't go beyond that now...
I didn't say anything about settling down though
Dating is ok. You're 22 and living at home.
You haven’t met the right person, because you are the wrong person. Guys should stand clear of you ❌