I'm sorry i can''t read thuis whole PMS'ing bitchy girly rant, but what I'm thinking you're missing is that women have standards that they set because the right woman will show you what it's possible for you to be and help you live up to it. I know because I've been with a goddess for 21 years, and the only way is that I have evolved into someone more caring, more successful, more engaging, more fun, than I was when we met.
I think you're overstating a few things, but despite the embellishment, your underlying sentiments ring true. Yes, 6/10 girls expect 8/10 or 9/10 guys. 6/10 guys *WANT* 8/10 or 9/10 girls, but do not *expect* them-- that's the difference.
Fuck yeah, they have unrealistic expectations for men. Why is it that they're against body shaming when it comes to women, but not for men? Why are they able to get a good body by not eating like a hippo, while men have to work out and diet? Why do they have double standards about the wage gap? Because yes, men do earn more because they take the more difficult and risky jobs, as opposed to liberal arts.
I have a point system to match a potential partners in looks. I would honestly feel uncomfortable with someone who looks better or worse than me. 1.) has freckles like me 2.) similar to my weight/height 3.) Has surgery scars 4.) hyperpigmjnration They guy dosnt HAVE to meet these requirements. But that’s how I would frame options.
Finally! Somebody put Standard 3 into words.. I'm like damn when women want that type of thing, they can be worse than dudes.. At least dudes know where to fall back, but women take it far beyond a fantasy.. They make it a goal.. Great Take!
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1. True, but many guys also have unrealistic expectations of what kind of behavior we should tolerate from them.
2. Mostly agree.
3. "We aren't supposed to look like women!" No, you're supposed to look like men lol. You should have decent genetics and take care of your appearance. I mean, if you want a woman who's like that.
Be that as it may, there is no cottage media industry cheering men's unrealistic expectations on. Men are "pigs" or worse for such unrealistic expectations, whereas for women the magazines all have a "You Go Girl!" attitude.
@Curmudgeon Can't say I've experienced any of what you're saying at all... If anything women's mothers often encourage them to not have such high standards because they want grandchildren by any means necessary... At least in my culture...
If anyone has seen my other questions and answers, Now you all know what I mean when I say that women simply don't care about male hardships and they want everything to be about them, this comment and a few other ones are a good example as to what I mean.
@MelaninDoll True. Women aren't really interested to put themselves in men's shoes, and I mean existentially. Just look at social conventions and look at the laws and tell me with a straight face men aren't in any shape or form disadvantaged. Not to say women don't have hardships, but women are privileged first class citizens in modern society and that's why they feel entitled.
Honestly, I can't find a man I like with even with bare minimum standards. Kind, responsible, not a dick, etc. Basically most of the things that make people a decent human being.
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Lol you're whining about women approaching you and wanting to buy you drinks you're the type to think that just because you're born male, you should do the approaching and asking out. A guy complaining about women asking them out , offering to buy drinks can't be straight unless all of the women approaching them aren't physically appealing whatsoever.
Men are just as unrealistic as women. People are picky. (Some much more than others, but still.) People want what they’re going to keep forever to be great from day one.
Lots of men and women alike have vastly inflated ideas of their "worth" and what is reasonable for them to expect in a partner I think younger me are worse than younger women but older women are worse than older men But that is just my experience
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You mentioned turning a guy down for being scrawny. Yes, it's dumb. Any man or women with that mindset is destine for unhappiness. One of the things I've noticed over time is that girls/women seem to have a preference for the super extrovert. someone who will pay them the maximum amount of attention and ignore the quieter guys. I wouldn't judge a girl just on this but it does seem to narrow the choices for them and committing them to one personality type.
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I think the influence of pop culture does a lot to fuel unrealistic expectations from both men and women.
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I'm sorry i can''t read thuis whole PMS'ing bitchy girly rant, but what I'm thinking you're missing is that women have standards that they set because the right woman will show you what it's possible for you to be and help you live up to it. I know because I've been with a goddess for 21 years, and the only way is that I have evolved into someone more caring, more successful, more engaging, more fun, than I was when we met.
I think you're overstating a few things, but despite the embellishment, your underlying sentiments ring true. Yes, 6/10 girls expect 8/10 or 9/10 guys. 6/10 guys *WANT* 8/10 or 9/10 girls, but do not *expect* them-- that's the difference.
Fuck yeah, they have unrealistic expectations for men. Why is it that they're against body shaming when it comes to women, but not for men? Why are they able to get a good body by not eating like a hippo, while men have to work out and diet? Why do they have double standards about the wage gap? Because yes, men do earn more because they take the more difficult and risky jobs, as opposed to liberal arts.
I have a point system to match a potential partners in looks. I would honestly feel uncomfortable with someone who looks better or worse than me.
1.) has freckles like me
2.) similar to my weight/height
3.) Has surgery scars
4.) hyperpigmjnration
They guy dosnt HAVE to meet these requirements. But that’s how I would frame options.
This is a really great take. I love learning from a guy's perspective. Thanks! 😙
Loved this take, I actually took my time to read it after the first few sentences, Good job! You should do more Mytakes like this :) <3
Finally! Somebody put Standard 3 into words.. I'm like damn when women want that type of thing, they can be worse than dudes.. At least dudes know where to fall back, but women take it far beyond a fantasy.. They make it a goal.. Great Take!
1. True, but many guys also have unrealistic expectations of what kind of behavior we should tolerate from them.
2. Mostly agree.
3. "We aren't supposed to look like women!"
No, you're supposed to look like men lol. You should have decent genetics and take care of your appearance. I mean, if you want a woman who's like that.
About as unrealistic as men have for women...
You tell me if that's fair or not...
Be that as it may, there is no cottage media industry cheering men's unrealistic expectations on. Men are "pigs" or worse for such unrealistic expectations, whereas for women the magazines all have a "You Go Girl!" attitude.
(I forgot to ask "as they should be" for unrealistic expectations)
@Curmudgeon Can't say I've experienced any of what you're saying at all... If anything women's mothers often encourage them to not have such high standards because they want grandchildren by any means necessary... At least in my culture...
If anyone has seen my other questions and answers, Now you all know what I mean when I say that women simply don't care about male hardships and they want everything to be about them, this comment and a few other ones are a good example as to what I mean.
@MelaninDoll True. Women aren't really interested to put themselves in men's shoes, and I mean existentially. Just look at social conventions and look at the laws and tell me with a straight face men aren't in any shape or form disadvantaged. Not to say women don't have hardships, but women are privileged first class citizens in modern society and that's why they feel entitled.
Honestly, I can't find a man I like with even with bare minimum standards. Kind, responsible, not a dick, etc. Basically most of the things that make people a decent human being.
Lol you're whining about women approaching you and wanting to buy you drinks you're the type to think that just because you're born male, you should do the approaching and asking out. A guy complaining about women asking them out , offering to buy drinks can't be straight unless all of the women approaching them aren't physically appealing whatsoever.
Men just want women to satisfy his one need while women need men to satisfy all of their needs. Interesting Mytake
I think your hanging out with wrong women, but there are some girls like them. These girls were too immature
these deluded women as you call them lack a spiritual life. know who else lacks a spiritual life? the men who fall for them.
Men are just as unrealistic as women. People are picky. (Some much more than others, but still.) People want what they’re going to keep forever to be great from day one.
Guys are just as unrealistic? I sure haven't seen it.
Wether it’s quantity or quality of wants, both genders have the same average standard. It’s part of being human.
Some women do have unrealistic expectations. Most don't.
I think it's the other way around.
"The other night, I was at a bar..."
I think that's why you're constantly coming across the sort of women you're going on about in your post.
Lots of men and women alike have vastly inflated ideas of their "worth" and what is reasonable for them to expect in a partner
I think younger me are worse than younger women but older women are worse than older men
But that is just my experience
You mentioned turning a guy down for being scrawny. Yes, it's dumb. Any man or women with that mindset is destine for unhappiness. One of the things I've noticed over time is that girls/women seem to have a preference for the super extrovert. someone who will pay them the maximum amount of attention and ignore the quieter guys. I wouldn't judge a girl just on this but it does seem to narrow the choices for them and committing them to one personality type.
I think the influence of pop culture does a lot to fuel unrealistic expectations from both men and women.
Lol, there are a lot of words and checklists there...
Can't it just be shortened to "I like him" and take it from there