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My ultimate life goal has nothing to do with romance so this really doesn’t apply to me.
But I enjoyed reading.
There is no shortage of men looking for women. Every age group has a flood of messages from guys on dating apps. Prove me wrong.
I have a decent number of female friends that would like to go for a one night fling with someone but no one non creepy each day. The statement about flood of messages is wrong, if you are not especially attractive you won't get flooded from either sides..
@sensible27 Every friend of mine has always had a flood of messages, some attractive, some not
Depends on how we/you define flood. What is the number of per day likes?
Additionally if such was the case you would always see girls with people above their 'leagues' which is generally never the case.
@sensible27 Oh give me a break, I don't ask them to count how many messages per hour they get. They told me they feel bad because of the messages they get that they never respond to.
Go ahead and sign up for one yourself and see.
@aislin9 Absolutely. There are plenty of guys who want to get into your pants. You are just riding the carousel, like a typical gen Y or millennial female does.
@KrakenAttackin "Absolutely. There are plenty of guys who want to get into your pants. You are just riding the carousel, like a typical gen Y or millennial female does. "
You're vile and vulgar, probably bitter because you can't get laid. I don't even sign up for those dating apps, I don't need to.
@KrakenAttackin lol, you sound so bitter. not rich enough for young ladies?
Ohhh man you just tried to tell women to think ahead and to take personal responsibility. Prepare to be called every sort of ist and ism.
Always remember er when dealing with women, you can't reason with them. You have to out crazy them.
Instead of telling them waiting to start a family is both the responsible and smart thing to do. Tell them having a career is part of the patriarchy since men are exploiting you labor. And that to fight the patriarchy you should find a man a saddle him with kids and lock him down in a marriage when he is young. Don't divorce him in your 30's then you allowing him to be happy and free to perpetuate patriarchal norms.
What responsibility? Marry in your early 20s and get kids, otherwise shallow men would not want you as soon as you are 30?
I almost thought you were going to say something of value but than you started to talk about some booboo 😐 if your “life advice” for woman is settle down just stfu and nobody gives a shit about older women’s opinions wtf were in a completely different times.
Also I’m not saying older woman’s opinions aren’t valuable because all woman’s opinion are valuable but most older women have different mindsets not all but I don’t even think that means these older woman’s don’t support us because they do.
Girls in their 20's make things happen? Yeah girl I knew have, half of them well I think they made some good moves, others well have not, kids after high school is a dumb idea, there are other mistakes being made, People are just stupid nowadays can't sum it in any other word.
I'm not suggesting girls get married on their 20th birthday, I'm saying don't wait until you are 34 before it occurs to you that you should find a guy to settle down with because you want marriage and kids. For women who WANT marriage and kids, they should be seriously looking in their mid-20s, and hopefully in a serious, marriage-potential relationship by their late 20s.
I agree except the social market value age should be 10% lower for women and 15 to 20 percent lower for men. And, certainly, women's peak fertility is not age 28. That is 10 years past their peak fertility. Already, I have noticed that the 18 to 22-year-old girls that I'm most attracted were more available to me two or more years ago. Based on that, a man's peak SMV is not near age 34 as the graft shows but 8 to 10 years younger.
Medically, peak female fertility is 28 - that's based on medical research. And similarly, SMV values by age come from a compilation of studies. You may not like the results, but I didn't invent them, I'm just reporting them.
I don't believe that; not even for one minute.
You can believe anything you like. There's plenty of research available online - this is a well-studied topic.
It is easy to claim there is proof, but you have offered none which implies there is none.
Young girls will reject this as something that won't happen to them. They'll never get fat. They'll be able to have it all so they'll postpone trying to get serious until they aren't as desirable.
Guys need to be very careful of women in their thirties that want to have kids because they will use you. Dont think that they won't. Not every woman will but it happens more and more these days. Buyer beware
Ah, i can already see all the irrational hate you'll see from this hard shot of reality. A bunch of women in denial about their diminishing smv, thinking they'll still be as popular among high quality men on their late 30's as they where whwn they where 23.
I can have a child in my late 30s regardless if I’m married or not. On the other hand , you will need to depend on finding love to have kids
Yeah, but the further away from 25 you get, the higher the risk of complications. 30 is still fine, but 35-40 can start to get shakey.
But of course, that all depends on attracting a partner in the first place. You'll probably be able to find someone to settle with later, but they probably wouldn't be your first choice. You get the best partner when you're at your peak, since peak men have options and tend to choose whoever is hottest.
Men do not typically look better with age either. I don’t tend to be attracted to guys in their 30s. Many are balding , gaining weight , growing white hairs. Not all men age well. Some do, most don’t.
And I’ve seen many many women in their mid to late 30s or even 40s who have married remarkable husbands that they are so happy with. Therefore I will not settle for any random man. I will be searching for true love way into my 40s.
You just keep telling yourself that. Some day soon however, reality will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks.
Men do age better than women if they take care of themselves. But that wasn't the point, the point was, attractive men regardless of age, physically prefer women between 18 and 27.
Good luck in your search, you'll quickly find however, as most women do when they wait too long, that all the good men are taken and all they can get is a weak man to settle with, or the occasional one night stand with a younger stud who's experimenting with older women.
I think you just want to believe things that make you feel better. Men commonly go bald by their 30s which is why I only date guys 26-32. And women do take care of their skin way more than men. Skincare technology is advancing by the minute as we speak. and I find many women look younger than their age nowadays
And plus I would highly question the quality of a man who dates me simply for my looks. What if my looks are gone in a few years? Would he still be there or would he be cheating?
Only roughly 50% of men go bald. Womens skin ages faster than male skin because women lose collagen faster, the standards for skin is also different for women, the ideal is a smooth, blemish free texture. For men the ideal is slightly rougher, more rugged, which wrinkles don't ruin as much. The only women who "look younger than their age" are photoshopped actors.
All men care most about your looks, its not the exclusive consideration, but it is extremely important still. There are plenty of attractive women with good personalities. The only way to avoid a man marrying you for your looks, is to be ugly. And then, he'll just be settling which will lead to a bitter, resentful relationship.
No not all men care about only looks especially if they can’t get better looking women due to baldness. I have ended an friends with benefits relationship with a 34 yr old due to his rapid out of control aging. It’s in his genes. I just lost all physical attraction to him. I would say out of every 10 thirty something yr old guys , only 3 would end up still looking good by 34.
Just because you want a 20 something yr old, it doesn’t mean you can get her. I have old guys in their 30s and 40s try to get with me but I reject them all. I only date guys 26-32. And plus if a woman loses her looks by 30 and you’re dating a 24 yr old, it’ll only be a matter of a few years before she loses her looks. Really won’t be long before you get tied down to an old hag. Maybe go for teenagers?
Plenty of men can still get women despite baldness. You think Vin Diesel or Dwayne Johnson are struggling with the ladies? According to surveys, 44% of women find bald men attractive.
And ofc they still care about looks, your standards don't drop just because you're less attractive. The only thing a less attractive man might do is settle for someone who is less than what he's ideally want.
There is a big difference between meeting a new partner, and staying with someone you've loved for years. Most men are willing to sacrifice their standards for a woman they've been dating for 7 year and are in love with. The same is not true for someone they just met.
In up to 30% of marriages, the husband is 5+ years older than the wife.
As opposed to about 12% where the wife is more than a year older.
5 years older is not a significant age difference. Keep in mind that a 32 yr old woman would always have guys 5 plus years older going after her. And all the single 40 yr old guys that are going after her too.
I don’t like bald aging men. Understand that we are surrounded by handsome college dudes that are young fit strong and fast. And of course we have more in common with them than some random balding 35 yr old man that’s exiting his prime. Sperm starts to mutate after age of 35 too so why would I go with a Man that is 10 plus years older than someone around my own age
Larger age ranges also have much higher chance with divorce.
five-year age gap statistically means you’re 18% more likely to divorce (versus just 3% with a 1-year age difference), and that rate rises to 39% for a 10-year age difference and 95% for a 20-year age gap. Partners from different generations may have different cultural reference points and values, and polar opposite tastes in music and film, and even friends, and also have different approaches to their sex life, says Fran Walfish, Beverly Hills psychotherapist and panelist on “Sex Box,” a forthcoming We TV relationship therapy show. “Sex drive goes up for women in middle age, but sexual function decreases for men.”
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A lot of things begin to happen in almost everyone's 20s.
Of course - and far more than just a few generations ago. But biology is what it is, and young women need to realize that their 20s are their very best chance of finding the high-value partner that they want (assuming they want that in their lives - not everyone does). College and careers aren't going to magically change female biology to give them more time later. That's a harsh reality, but it's still the reality, and those who ignore it will suffer the consequences of that decision. Nothing you or I can do about it either, beyond education.
@MrOracleI. m young fertile 24 yr old, recent college grad , unemployed rookie. And I want to date a high caliber lawyer which I doubt I can get due to the unemployed loser that I am. Youth is really not everything
wow people here write more in MyTakes/response section than i write an essay...
For a 50 year old... you're either really dumb and believe this horse crap or you're really brilliant and will manage to bang a few younger women out of this post.
Always a fire take, MrOracle. I respect your views about both genders more than any other user here. Keep it up!
Mr. Oracle salute to you, it's a great Mytake and I don't have anything to contribute here but loved the conversation going on in the comment section..
it Ok. yet I been through another break up. I just want to find the right guy for me , yet I been having bad luck through my teen and now 20 . I know relationship are serious.
I don't think it matters whether girls decide to settle down or not. With the way divorce laws are set they won't have much of chance for getting married. Lots of men these days oppose marriage and long term relationships in general
The awkward moment when you grow up ugly and have to buy your own drinks and don't get this.
I would have definitely bought you drink, but I am against drinking it damages health so I am sorry no booze 😂🍻🙏
If you are single, let me ask you a question:
When you see someone you like, what do you do about it?
I would say both genders in their 20s should take academics and learning more seriously. Males just have more opportunities which is why the graphs look like that.
Pretty awesome article sir..🙂
I don't know who's more annoying, the woman being interviewed by Steve Harvey, or the whiny twerp narrating the video.