Why you should never date the "nice guy" (Page 3)

[Bandit74]

Do you really need to convince girls not to date the nice guys?

Most women already had those same preconceptions and weren't going to date them anyways.

[ManOnFire]

Daaaaayum. So true.

[FakeName123]

Women do not want a nice guy. The problem is, they also do not want a "bad boy".

What women want is a strong guy who is capable of horrendous things (being capable =/= wanting to do it, important distinction), but so well civilised that he valves it into a virtuous nature.

[youknowbetter]

It’s a very difficult balance. They hold guys to a higher standard than they hold themselves to.

There are few small minority of guys who are able to do this.

[lockster]

Nice generalization. Im sure you met every single nice guy on the planet to spit this bullshit. Get off your high horse, your not all that lady.

ain't a nice guy but when i see stupidity i make sure to call that bullshit out miss 🤷‍♂️

[myTake Owner]

Do you know me to judge hoe that I am? judging something you don't know is stupidity.

[lockster]

Your a hyprocrite. Your saying I have to know you to judge you, yet ur making a big generalization because u met 2 nice dudes.

But dont worry i didn't expect u to be smart anyway.

[lockster]

Your talking about stupidity when you can't form a proper sentence

[myTake Owner]

You grammar Nazi me and don’t use one bit of punctuation 😂 enough said!

[lockster]

But your still replying to me. You obviously want my attention

[myTake Owner]

Totes

[Anonymous]

Disagree. Don't complain if you only get shitty boyfriends then it's your choice

[Unit1]

Smart pink anon! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[mynameisRIS]

I didn't read it all. Don't have to. You can't tell someone not to date nice guys because you think they're boring or etc. Everyone is not the same and you can't clump everyone in a certain category. You may find some nice guys boring because maybe you don't like what they like but they're are plenty of nice guys or guys who aren't nice that aren't boring. It's just a matter of do you have certain things in common that keeps your attention

[genericname85]

yup great take. the "nice guys" are really worse than the bad guys. cause they don't even admit how bad they are. they just assume they are nice and that makes them feel entiteled.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

I know right. I'd never be that type of guy. I far more prefer a girl to suck my dick and clean my shit when I say so. Hell, the minute Michelle turns 30, there's a cute 25 yr old blondie named Monica that winked at me the other day. Imma fuck the brains out of on the side, especially with anal, when i get a chance. I love being a rightous bad boy :)

[genericname85]

@errorgoodnameunfound if you can get away with treating girls like that, good for you. i don't think that works for most people tho.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Of course I can. They all have stockholm syndrome or whatever shit there days LOL. I could even beat the kids and she'd still tell all her girlfriends I have a good side deep down or whatever. Funny af right? Hell, I even got the satisfaction of sending her friend zone guy to the hospital back in high school. He wasn't as bad a stalker as some other dorks, but she's too cute for a guy like him as she ended up with the bad boy me in the end. Screw being a gentleman at all, girls like a sexy ass guy that can satisfy. Facts.

[genericname85]

@errorgoodnameunfound i don't think that's so funny. and i'm pretty sure you're trying really hard to make your point against assholes. i don't know who on here was arguing for assholes but ok.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Oh I was. I made up all of that. But see, my example is of a "bad boy" type she claims is better. Is it though? Her being stalked is worse than being to a bloody pulp. That's what I understand when I read these takes. In general, perhaps girls should, oh, I don't know, try to find/encourage a balanced center rather then one or the other? Or if not, to not date/fuck at all? I don't see this advice being said at all. So my sarcasm is most likely similar to real scenarios and if girls keep seeing a bit of guys having a soft side or romantic as worse, then fine. Let em all get the shit beat out of them until we're back in the stone ages. Most guys in the center like me are done, as they did it to themselves. I'll focus on me. Don't need a woman to be happy.

[genericname85]

@errorgoodnameunfound well girls will learn that being with bad boys is shit. It's not your place to teach them. But being all goody never teasing and never standing up for yourself and boring as fuck is the opposite end of that spectrum. I agree that you should be somewhere in between. Not at the "nice guy" end of the extreme, not at the "bad guy" end.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

I agree with most of that. Except yes, it is my place to say something because it's a bad influence and guess where much of our taxes go to? Little Timmy and Sarah who don't have a dad anymore because their mom married a bad boy pump and dumper so is now is on welfare and that has to be paid for somehow does it not?

[genericname85]

@errorgoodnameunfound yeah that's an interesting point. though i feel like that works better from a point where you understand why they go for that type of person instead of just demonizing that type of person.

because women "not chosing the right partner" is only one side of the medal. the other side is "adequate men not being able to properly attract women".

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Yah. The main point is, it's up to them to find a balance. The guys she mentioned, yah, I know they can be bad and maybe are a bad sign, but then respond properly, maybe even negotiate. If that happened to me, and a girl was stalking me like that, I'd be like, "OK fine, you want me so bad? prove it. Show me your interests and stuff and prove to me why you are worth it." Hell, if they obviously are so bad, but don't go away, tell em something nuts, like "fine you can date me, but I'd like $1 million first if you like me that much. 1 million to my name and well do what ya want. Here's my paypal."

See? THAT will get them to rethink, but it's up front confrontation and at least gives a chance, rather than beating around the bush. And fact is, girls have done very similar before to what I suggested and guess what? IT WORKS! And rumor goes around they are hard to get so most guys avoid.

[Shamalien]

I’ve never read a bigger crock of shit in my life. The whole “nice guy” as a pejorative thing is no better than the term incel, just another male stereotype women can use to blame all their problems on anyone BUT THEMSELVES! If you date a man and don’t like the way he treats you guess who’s fault that is? YOURS!!! When you accept that, you can change and get the man you want. Blame him and you’re trapped forever a victim

[apollo3000]

This is one of those bullshit African sabotage statements to ruin the whites, yes?
Considering the nice guy is the only guy that won't be a wimp or beat you up - who else can you date?
Your big black brother, so you can conquer the universe together and so that YOU get the nice guy, huh?

[I-am-a-nobody]

Hmmmm,
I sense more than a little bit of deep hostility an bitterness.
OK, the guy sounds a little psycho, but I'm thinking he's not the only one. (ha ha)
It's a great time to be married to a nice girl.

[Anonymous]

The extremely sad thing is, this totally matches me like 60%. I get that you can't buy love, I'm a nerd, and I'm not all female-oriented, but I guess the rest of this about matches up... Well, thank you for lowering my self-esteem and letting me know that I need to f̶i̶n̶d̶ fix myself.

[wowijustknow]

Noooo, it's not like that. The kind of man that is described is like an insecure man. If you are in a relationship, you shouldn't overthink anything because she's yours. And I don't think that you should fix yourself, find yourself. When you've found yourself, you are fixing yourself too. Chin up my man, you don't need to feel bad about yourself just because of some articles that you read on internet. You'll find yourself soon 😉.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Dude, what you need is to focus less on females and more on yourself. Take women off the pedestal and put the same level as man. If ya gotta jack off once in a while to do so, go for it. But don't let your self esteem get lowered because women don't care about you. The va JJ and boobs are flesh. Nothing special. If you are a nerd, be fucking proud of it and if females look down on you for it, tell em bluntly to fuck off.

[godfatherfan]

You should share a link to this with any guy you are interested in so they know to stay the fuck away from you.

[DylanJonesss]

Nice guys are weird. You should he kind to anyone and let love find you. Quite simply I'm neither nice or mean I'm a confident dude who had goals and won't let people tell me no.

[KrakenAttackin]

Good for you brother. Focus on yourself and blaze your own trail. In life you have to take shit, but you don't have to eat shit.

[Liam_Hayden]

Nailed it! "Nice guys" - as opposed to gentlemen - are really not nice. I mean, what is so "nice" about expecting a date or sex just because you showed common courtesy?

[Anonymous]

Once again we have an oversimplification to a very complicated issue.

First off most women aren’t turned on by being mistreated. Maybe you are because deep down that’s you know that’s all you deserve. Most women are turned on by mystery and challenge.

But women have a hard time separating true masculine energy vs. deep insecurity masked with aggression. There is a difference. If you are smart enough to separate the two then you will find Mr. Right vs Mr. heartbreak.

Also there are men who are nice to everybody unless they have a reason not to be. They aren’t behaving that way to just get in someone’s pants. They prefer peace and tranquillity but I guess that’s “boring” right?

But go ahead with that attitude. Spread your legs for plenty of assholes who treat you like garbage and see where that leads.

[myTake Owner]

"Spread your legs for plenty of assholes who treat you like garbage and see where that leads" you seem like a nice person lmao

[Opinion Owner]

Wow you are in 30s and you still have this viewpoint about “nice guys”? Holy shit. I feel really sorry for you.

[myTake Owner]

could be worse I could be in my 30's speaking so degrading directly to a person

[Opinion Owner]

As if what you posted above makes any logical sense. You think you got leeway to be picky? Think again, Father Time isn’t too nice to ovaries or to women in general.

You are a grown ass women making adolescent judgements about men. You should know that it isn’t that simple but you still want to get off on the adrenaline rushes assholes give you. Well guess what heroine can do the same thing. Look where that leads.

[CallyKat89]

If we discount inflammatory language, I believe she is basing her take around these ideas and principals. Agreeable people suffer because predators exist and faking agreeableness leads to crafting a persona which leads to disastrous relationship. “Some people are so agreeable, they don’t even know what they want.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fesSvXKxYd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2FM8WZI5E

Here is another fairly good video describing the cause behind the actions of the people I am fairly certain she is trying to reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjfClL6nogo

I hope this helps!

[Opinion Owner]

@CallyKat89 I’m “agreeable” to any women I like. Often I’m just being myself and I was raised to treat women with chivalry. But then later in my 20s I would still do all the nice things but I made it obvious I wanted to get laid and wasn’t afraid to make a move. This often worked but sometimes it didn’t. But even when it did work I felt a sense of shame/anger towards women. I really don’t want to be an asshole. I want to take things slow and have a real relationship. But women REACT to aggression or aloof men.

But then came along #metoo and that scared the living hell out of most well meaning guys including myself. I act nicer again to protect my very livilihood.

Men are being bombarded with all sorts of conflicting messages nowadays. What she wrote above just confuses us to even more of a depressing and disgusting level.

by the way I just had an unattractive woman try to aggressively seduce me at my place two nights ago (she was friends with one of my tenants.). It was extremely awkward but all I can think is how if the roles were reversed it would of been BAD. Very bad.

[CallyKat89]

@Opinion Owner Thank you for sharing your story. I suggest you watch the videos and see if they resonate with you before responding. You also may want to consider find yourself a psychotherapist or a behavioral therapist to work with you on your issues, as I cannot give you the proper advice that can help you propel yourself to a healthier mindset. It saddens me to hear that you feel left behind by society and I hope that you can find the proper guidance and support that you need to build up your confidence as well as enhance your present charisma.

[Opinion Owner]

@CallyKat89 the take owner just wants someone to agree and give her affirmation. 90 percent of her dating gripes are from her own shitty decisions. She has no one to blame but herself. But she’s hoping to God someone on her will tell her shitty decisions are “okay” but bottom line they are not.

I want to support women but when I read this crap I have a lot less respect for female gender when it comes to this insanity. The fact she’s over 30 saying this makes it 10 times worse.

[myTake Owner]

I would like to congratulate the opinion owner on their recent graduation. So congrats on your counselling degree. Just a tip though analysing people takes years of practice and you may need more than a forum post to do it right, plus put your own biases aside but don’t worry you’ll get there

[Opinion Owner]

“plus put your own biases aside”... oh yeah like you are such a trustworthy and level-headed person to take advice from. You devoted an entire take to confess that you are a conceited low self-esteem piece of shit.

But why waste your time on here? You better run over to that assholes house because he just got done banging your best friend. If he’s in a good mood he might just have 5 mins to tell you to bend over. After he’s done with no foreplay and not making you cum you can look forward to him telling you to GTFO out of his place.

But again I bet self hating adrenaline rush was all worth it, right? Oh that challenge of chasing that dragon. So rewarding. So fulfilling. So much better than having a meaningful relationship.

Hell you can write another take about how all men are trash and how you take no responsibility for diving head first in the dark pit.

I wish it was legal got tattoo women like you on the forward the words “Fuck me over please!” It save us guys all the guess work.

[myTake Owner]

#walloftextallert

[Paul09]

Love how people twist the word "nice" into a bad thing. And "bad" into a good thing? If they are liars, they arnt nice.
No, bad is bad, nice is nice.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

I wrote a mytake once saying exactly that. Every single person who read it called me a "nice" guy who is hurt. Says a lot no?

[Paul09]

@errorgoodnameunfound yup! People with their social media, become brainwashed. Everyone wants to be like all the other sheep. Education throwin put the window.

[Pejtu]

I guess having sexbot in the future will be much more popular then having an actual girlfriend for this type of people that are obsessed jelly etc

[Splintercell]

A nice guys by how you’ve described him sounds insecure, unsure of what he wants, a Chamaeleon if you will. He doesn’t work on himself, isn’t striving towards a goal nor is bettering himself.

[Happy_88]

An actual kind person yes. Not someone kissing my ass constantly with zone backbone in order to get into my pants

[crazy8000]

It's pretty much the same the other way around 😉

[Skadouchebag]

girls who only ever date mean guys are the ones who eventually complain that all men are the same. No, they're not all the same, you're just deliberately chasing the mean ones.

[RadovanKaradzic]

Agree. I'm a bad boy. I have been convicted for multiple war crimes against the Bosniaks in the Former Yugoslavia. The ladies love it.
Your nice guy boyfriend can cook and clean, but can he operate Šumadij compact missile launcher with ease?