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That's what we do. I don't like codependency. My boyfriend and I split everything and take turns paying for things.
The only thing I find amazing about splitting the bill is that it's amazingly stupid. The guy should always pay for anything and everything associated with a romantic relationship -- period. I even try to pay for her dates with other guys, if I have a chance.
Sure! If you don't want any dates, relationships or business networking meetups to last past the table.
So called "splitting the bill" usually means you saw no value in paying for the person you spent the last hour or so with.
You might as well have flipped them the bird.
That’s a two sided coin, if she expects you to pay it demonstrates a need to be enticed monetarily to spend time with you, you are nothing but a meal and money ticket. Another word for it is prostitution !
My boyfriend and I don’t ever split bills, we simply take it in turns to pay which works nicely for us
exactly! i don't understand why women don't get this normally... should be common sense. if you don't wanna be the woman that stays in the kitchen, pay for your own fucking food.
Yes, it's a good idea, and you do a very good job of pointing out the advantages. The problem is that most women expect men to pay for them and get upset and angry if they have to share in the expenses. I don't think things will change regarding this any time soon if ever.
Only gold diggers want to be paid for showing up.
@Unit1 No, almost all women want to be paid for showing up.
If your experience is that almost all women want to be paid maybe you should change the type of woman you hang out/go on a date with.
No girl I know wants to be paid for showing up because I don't hang with people who act that way.
Some of this is probably related to where I live in Hollywood CA. Things are very different here.
I guess it is related. Hope you find a decent one that will just split the bill 😁
@LittleTurtleDuck How typically feminist of you - shift the blame onto the man.
Dufuck? Feminist? Shift the blame to the man? If you where a woman complaining about how modt men are all just fuckboys you'd gotten the same response 🤷🏼♀️
You can't control others, just yourself, so that's why I said what I said. If stuff isn't to your liking go and fix what you can yourself, or live with how it is.
If all you see around you are stupid people you should wonder if you are not just surrounded by stupid people. This goes for men and women alike.
@LittleTurtleDuck Do you have a problem with your memory such that you cannot remember what you have written previously? It sure seems like it.
Do you recall writing "If your experience is that almost all women want to be paid maybe you should change the type of woman you hang out/go on a date with." If that is not blame-shifting from the woman to me, I don't know what would be. Your implication is that I am at fault for picking the wrong women. It may come as a great surprise to you to learn that women don't walk around with labels on their foreheads that read "gold digger" or "nice girl" etc. Men typically find this out when the three-figure dinner check or the credit card bills arrive.
You also said "No girl I know wants to be paid for showing up because I don't hang with people who act that way." implying that I somehow wrongly associate with the wrong type of women while you associate with a better type. I would suggest that you simply associate with liars, as most women who take financial advantage of men are loathe to admit it to anyone. You also imply that your group of friends are somehow representative of ALL women, and the only rational response to that sort of claim is "bullshit".
I don't have a memory problem.
I'm just not blameshifting from women to men. That claim I can't understand. As I said, if you where a woman you'd getten the same.
I'm "blameshifting" from person you can't control (the other party) to person you can control (yourself)
Basically I'm trying to give you new input that you might use in your advantage. But hey, why should you.
And yes I do implicate that it just MIGHT be your own fault because you said almost all woman wich is nearly impossible unless you've met the entire world population of woman. The sentence you are looking for is almoat all women i know/dated/spoke to/heard off are wanting to be paid to show up.
And no they don't have labels on their forheads but you can ask before you have that expensive dinnerdate, or just go on a cheaper coffee date, you know. Then you'll know exactly what kind of woman you will be investing your time in 🤷🏼♀️
But by not doing things like this you are part of your own problem. There is also room for improvement on your side, that's what I am saying.
So:
Yes I do imply that you MIGHT associate with the wrong type of woman. Because if they weren't wrong for you, you wouldn't be complaining.
But I don't imply that my group of friends is representing the entire female race because yes that is bullshit. I'm just saying that there are no friends like that in my friend circle, to make you realise that it can be different. That they are out here but you haven't met them yet.
And as to why I don't associate with those people is because I ask questions beforehand so I know their intentions and if they don't act according to how they said they would or not how I like my friends to be, I ditch them on the spot.
I have no time for fake people and if I have a problem I work on it, instead of complaining about how almost all...-insert group here-... are stupid.
You understand now?
Or will you just keep fighting me because I am "a bad woman"
Wow you had to work really hard to back out of all your insults didn't you? Saying things like I didn't mean that I actually meant this doesn't make what you said any less palatable or any less invalid.
Oops, I hate the fact that you can't edit things here I meant to say any more palatable
Ah, you'll keep fighting.
Whatever, stay miserable ✌
@LittleTurtleDuck And you will keep up the bullshit - enjoy it.
Of course. Why does it even need to be a discussion? This shit is cray.
each to their own
dont need to get angry
I’m not angry, I’m flummoxed.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned but if I asked a woman out then I expected to pay and even if she offered, I paid. It was never about was she going to put out because I paid for the date. It was because I invited her and it was the right thing to do.
Great. Guys like you make it terrible for all of us.
Well i dont mind to pay all of the bill really 😂i did it before. Just be generous sometimes. I dont know why people make a big deal about that! heck do some coin flipping if thats too complicated
I don’t like the idea of going Dutch. If we are in the early stages of dating, the guy should court the woman. Once we are exclusive then yeah we can go Dutch or I’ll pay then
Exactly. Your the first person I've seen talk about courting. As if courting and equality cannot go hand in hand. Especially early stages a man should court you by paying. It's not just about the money... it just shows qualities he has like he is caring, thoughtful etc. And obviously as time progress uts reciprocated! I asked a similar question yesterday on here and I was called a prostitute for expecting to be courted in early stages of dating lol
@mimia396 the 4 people that disliked this comment are all cheapos lol
@mimia396
Why do you expect the guy to pay before being exclusive when you won't pay for yourself before being exclusive with the guy?
Women have a set value. What they bring and what men want these days tend to be a little different. I will pay for a woman with the qualities I want but not for a woman I’m not rem anti ally interested.
Maybe guys don't need/want a grown up child.
@MysteriousDarkness oh here we go! Maybe you dont understand the idea of courting. Women do not go courting men... I feel like I'm in the twilight zone here. Part of courting is picking her up, paying for dinner etc.
I'm glad I haven't men who want to dutch in real life.
The absolutely cheapest 😂
I agree with this take. For as many men saying this is wrong and a gold digger etc they need to realise that there are just as many men out there who like to pay for a date and who actually ENJOY treating a woman. I’ve never asked for it but I’ve had dates in the past who have paid whilst I have been in the toilet so that we don’t even have the discussion when I get back. Did I get angry at them? Of course not! They were trying to do something nice for me. Do I feel like less of a woman? No, that would be ridiculous! Just because someone’s ideal might not be yours, doesn’t mean one of you is right and the other isn’t. It just means that it’s the best thing for YOU
Courting? Did you fall into a time machine and now you think it's 1456 or something? will you next whine about chivalry?
@Needtovent Men don't enjoy emptying their wallets to feed you. They do it because they want to get laid at some point.
@msc545 I’m quite sure that not all men are like this. Perhaps it says something about your own mentality? In the same way I could just as easily say all women want to be paid for and are out for a free lunch but that isn’t correct. It would be impossible for every man and every woman to have the same mentality
@msc545 may I ask of your own latest dating experience? Are you in a relationship? Has it ever worked out for you with anyone going Dutch on everything?
@Needtovent You really need to ask men about this, although doing it here as a woman will get you inaccurate results since men won't be honest with you about what they really want. If you were to pose as a man (don't do this here), you would be surprised at what you would learn.
@Needtovent You can ask me, but I certainly have no intention of discussing my private affairs with you. In any event, it is irrelevant.
Why is it that "the guy should court the woman", exactly?
This was meant for Mimia 396.
Sorry - for DSG1193. I wish to hell we could edit our own stuff here.
@mimia396 So why can't women court men? I think the problem is women have this false sense of value. They think they are better than men and deserve more. They aren't/don't. I'd rather be single my entire life than in a one sided relationship.
Courting is for when one person likes the other and the other doesn't. I wouldn't bother with that kind of relationship. If a relationship isn't equal from the start it won't ever be equal.
Very well said thank you
Mutual pursuit is the way to go. Not a hunting trip.
The deal is, I'm very fond of the feeling of the inside of a pussy massaging my dick, so splitting the bill is something I would never really consider.
@HikerDude Use a prostitute, Cheaper than some date, better sex, guaranteed sex, and a much nicer person.
@msc545 prostitutes are mostly not attractive, and most of them are diseased drug addicts. Everyone thinks that all strippers and hookers look like Jessica Simpson ca. 2005, but they actually look more like a woman from the local trailer park walking down the side of the road with a can of gas while smoking a menthol cig.
I think he might be looking for prostitutes in the wrong places
@msc545 More like the ones who are considered attractive tend to be more expensive.
@msc545 I don't look for prostitutes at all. You can pay unattractive women for sex all you want, but I'll stick to college girls.
@Alpha09 more like even the ones who cost wouldn't be anyone I'd look at twice.
College girls are dangerous. if one gets pissed off at you, she can falsely accuse you of rape or sexual assault, the college will conduct a Title IX hearing, and almost every time you will be thrown out of school. If you or your parents have a lot of money, you can hire an attorney and fight it and usually win, but if you have no money (and it takes a lot) you are toast.
@Alpha09 Still not as expensive as repeated dates with some entitled arrogant cunt who may or may not fuck you.
@HikerDude lol good luck with those college girls
@Alpha09 ok stalker
I have always paid my own way. Doing this really seems to upset some guys.
Yeah, it upsets those sugar daddies, who want to buy women 😂
They wanna buy a woman, they ought to go to the brothel. There their money is gladly taken.
I fully agree with you. I believe this is how things should work. However, I have not been fortunate enough to find many women who think like this.
I think it's a good idea. It shows that you are both serious enough to spend your own money in an honest attempt to get to know someone.
Women think that just showing up is enough.
Very well said. It makes things and life so much easier.
too bad women want equal rights to men but only when it's convenient for them
Majority of women are good diggers who will not accept it. Some women are angle and split. There's a false logic of some women whoever asked have to pay and it's mostly men as women hadly ask out guys. You have choose to accept to go out. If you aren't looking for a free meal why you choose to accept going out?
Not paying gold digging women layer cry that men wanted sex. Of course he will , he's paying so much for it...
If you want to split the bill Go ahead and make my day
No it’s not unless they’re friends and not a date or partner. Splitting the bill feels too much like friendship and takes out the romance out of dating. It’s how a gentleman acts when they pay the bill
Or just pay for your own meals. Lol. I’m a cheapskate and I’m proud of it. Some good Practicality over extravagance anyday 👍