@Hairylegs222 Bro, there is nothing wrong for looking for "the one". My one huge piece of advice would be to LISTEN TO THE LITTLE VOICE IN YOUR HEAD. If that voice tells you something is wrong, you need to listen to it.
@Hairylegs222 More younger men need to be told this. Men are often told to ignore their instincts when it comes to women as they are just happy she is with him, when in fact the warning sirens are screaming in the back of his head.
No bitterness whatsoever towards women , single dad to a teen daughter , simply cannot be arsed with the pantomime known as " dating " , and to me , relationships = stress & aggravation. Simply prefer own company , you can only truly rely on yourself anyway.
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Not surprising. The men who do invest are usually less attractive and no muscles. Who can blame the poor woman. And by muscles don't auto think huge bicep bodies. I'm talking no dad bod but no average joe either.
So no wonder they grow disappointed at the quality of the crop of men who will invest but are... let's face it... disappointing physically.
No wonder divorces happen hahaha or depressing marriages.
It's easy to think in a woman's shoes when you imagine yourself saying you love a woman despite her masculine race and bad lip hair habit that she refuses to shave and you remind her every week but she never does.
Little things you know... so it's easy to see it really is fair's fair. You know.
Perhaps but at the same time, what woman wouldn't deny that a man can always be improved. Especially if he's lazy and needs that motivational kick up the backside to get off the couch and lift some weights and eat healthier with her by his side :)
I'm sure that explains so many eventually breakups and divorces: because the man was someone she settled for less, not a man who was ectomorph gymnastics fit and tall. No I don't mean big like Arnold and wide as a semi trailer. I mean more like a blend of Spider Man Batman muscles. And what woman wouldn't swoon for being able to show that off better than a ring đ¤đ¤đ¤đ she'd be the luckiest girl in the world feelin' đ
Cool man. Is it a soulmate type love at first sight that's remained or just a typical average marriage? Has it been long? Has it been happy? Any regrets? Personally I'm content with my fate of single for life and by choice I am happy :)
Especially when I have more money for selfish me hahaha I'm so grateful to God everyday. I could never be an atheist. Satan devil god universe grim reaper, I'm grateful to them all hahaha and I keep being grateful and humble đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤ŁâŽď¸âŽď¸âŽď¸âŽď¸ peace bro
I think most women ask for commitment way to fast. It's one thing when you reached the state when both wants a family. Men has started to require attention back, and not just be a giver. That what is causing most complaints I have seen. Since most relationship doesn't make it far enough to even be about commitment to create something bigger then themselves.
Commitment of resources should be withheld by both people until they see the other is a "genuine" human being.
A lot of complaint's women have about dating is easily fixable for themselves due to them not being expected to provide/have any resources, but a man's only solution often is to gain resources to be more valuable in the area of dating.
"Just because it takes two to Tango, doesn't mean everyone is good at it, or knows the right steps".
People tend to forget that you bring something to the relationship, the other party too. But it's only if you have the right combination that it will work out. Just because one party has it all or the other is something "special" means very little long term.
The same can be said for women. How many women don't invest in relationships and just play the guy with no intention of giving him sex let alone going on a date.
So false. Men who donât invest in relationship are the ones who barely invest in their oneself. Women dont have a foot in and a foot out , we just go to work and make sure we donât depend on a man to eat. We are not flowers ready to be picked and ruined by any insecure or immature man
@Toldol2. At your age you have finally realized how your bad behaviour in your youth had landed you where you are. Projecting on to men becomes a less and less effective tactic as you get older. You will need to try a new approach, like becoming a faithful and worthy partner.
@krakenAttackin and where did I land with my bad behaviour? What is my current approach exactly? You donât know what you are talking about. Men who invest in relationships are the ones who took the Time to invest in the relationship with themself first Period.
@grega239 this is what you call investment? Any fool can buy anything he wants with the money he makes. Women do it too. All you talk about is your stupid material. What about inner self here? And traumas that makes you avoid to invest in relationship? Guys you are off @krakenAttacking
Exactly! You are indĂŠpendant. But the man has to do all the firsts everything? So much more pressure for the man. You just sit their and wait, don't have to do any work. If your were so independent, you'd ask a guy out, you'd do the first kiss, etc.. And then there's usually the man that has to pay everything on the begging mostly. Why can't we be on equal grounds? I person always try to work on my self. I try to eat right, I workout, and the hardest and most challenging to work on, is mental health.
@Paul09 Men and women have different needs obviously. And When it comes to dating and relationship we are not going to deny that women rare more in touch with their feelings and men withdraw a lot. You say you want to be asked out but you guys are rarely available too for connections and in general. Women can be harsh but you have to admit that guys give a lot of sâŹâŹâŹ to women too and it could be very cruel sometimes. How do women Chase a man?
Yes maybe some men not all, not me. There's always 2 sides to look at. You can't possible be a adult and still wait for men to ask you out. Women should feel what we feel when we have to ask the big questions. It's b. S that one sex has to act this way, while the other acts like that. Humans are weird. Traditions are ment to be broken.
So we can't want chads aka 10% of men but guys like you can want 10% of women (?). For you women over 30s are bad women. This means you or guys like you reject 80-90% of women but complain when women does the same. This is what i dont understand-Maybe i am wrong. At least dont be hypocritical. It is suprising how ignorant some guys are. Majority of women ain't in their 20s. Only 10-20% of women are in their 20s. So why it is ok to want 10%-20% of women but women get hate for wanting 10-20% of men?
I personally dont care who you prefere. You can have preferences but just dont hate on 80-90% of women just because you decide to prefere to date 10% of women and had bad experience with young women. I can't stand it when you only see 10-20% of women dateable due their age but also hate on women for seeing 10% of men as dateable since it is hypocritical.
What do you mean? I am very open minded when it comes to dating preferences. I really respect it when guys have physical preferences. It is perfectly ok if you prefere curvy, thick, tall, thin, blonde etc women. I am saying this so nobody misunderstand me. I really dont if you prefere women in their mid 20s for example but many guys dont know that women in their 20s are minority. So by wanting young women you make your dating pool small and risk getting immature women since the brain development continue till in the mid 20s which affect the personality and maturity. So if a much older guy had a bad experience with a young woman due to different maturity level, he may think all women are like this which i see it a lot on gag.
I prefere guys in their early 20s. Men in their 30s+ are too old too me. I also want to get kids in my mid to late 20s. So when i want kids he is going to be 40-50s The sperm quality of old men are trash and they are more likely to get kids with disabilities. Men also die before women.. i want my men to live with me and die before me since i can't endure this
This is not what i mean. Sorry i can perfectly understand when men in their 20s want to date women in their 20s but i dont understand when all men want young women 'cause of different maturity level etc
men in their 30s probably want younger women because they had issue getting women when they were in their early 20s so they want to "relive" themselves
@disgustingweebtrash And you really think in their 30's they have a better shot then they had in their 20's? No twenty year old girl will prefer a 37 over a 27 year old.
It is weird to me but it is their life although i would not recommend this due to different maturity level because of brain development The divorce rate is also higher among couples with big age gap. I personally think men my age are great
haha you think its common for 22 yr old women to be dating 55 yr olds? nobody is gonna believe that. stop dreaming. we all know you're desperately trying to make yourself feel better
The maker of this take is the biggest hypocrite. He had an abusive or toxic ex but victim blame women if they got abused by their exs since they choose them. He also chose his ex but he never blamed himself for choosing a crazy bad woman.
It is also funny how almost all female gagers disagree with him. When you blame every shit on women and be hypocrite as f. Do not expect from women to support your bs. If the genders were reversed this take would be called a feminazi bs. He is no different than a feminazi
Accountability is kryptonite ⌠I see it going both waysâŚ. Problem is, the idea of just massive FU to most guys, forces women to end up chasing the top 15-20% of guys. Who are the considerate, respectful, AND good providers AND good protectorsâŚWhich basically means these guys have 3-4 women hot after them all the time. And once theyâre married? The other 2-3 just want to be side chicks? While the bottom 80% of guys get to FO and die? Really the attitude on both sides seems to be a downward spiral to absolute and total disaster.
If you read the FDS sub I swear to white jeezus, you could cut and paste every word back and forth between Red Pill uncle and FDS.
All I can see right now is humanity going extinct. Or, conversely, just stop complaining and prove to everyone that they have to be good men by going out and finding one and taking him off the market and proving yourself correct. Nobody has to hear about it. Instead of coming here to tell me I am totally full of it, deserve to die and complain about all these guys who need to get their shit together
No the problem these same men wants chad's girlfriend , otherwise why they care what kind of women a chad get? So called bad boys habe pretty but crazy girls. If she was ugly none of you would be jealous of these bad boys. So i really dont understand why you compare a crazy idiotic with mental issues with average women? Would you like it if i compare you to badboys and call of you bad?
150 women after the 4 guys they're all attracted to -- Go be a side chick concubine. Go get in line. BGS went over this tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsC6-SJS8MA
OOPS --- Autoplay fast forwarded -- Try this one instead this is BGS 150 women after 4 guys they're all attracted to. Good. Go be a concubine. Go be a side chick. Go get in line. Bet your momma gonna be proud of you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdR1AMfyhTM
I see no difference between him and a feminazi. Both generalize, trashtalk the whole gender, never want to responsible for their own problems, are hypocritical etc. He is the biggest hypocrite i have seen.
Just come back here to find Iâm blocked. I spent my 20s and 30s as one of the biggest feminists out there.
Like I am not the person to block unless youâre a blockhead.
The point is that all my 2nd wave feminist GFs form the 80s and 90s ended up with ridiculous miserable horrible lives. Single moms terrorizing their children by removing all the men and actual fathers. No woman wants to hear any of it. No responsibility. No accountability.
I was there. I was all on their side. Easily 30 women I know personally screwed their lives up. And their kids. Not just a little. A lot. I mean hell. I know I made a mistake. At least I can admit it. For the rest, reality will never enter. Iâm âa botâ, âa Naziâ, âtoxicâ etc etc. all thatâs psychological projection. Iâm just a guy who saw all of it up close.
âI am obliged to speak. I will never shut up.â - Samuel Beckett
Yes every self respecting girl is a feminist but you guys are never biggest mgtiw incels. Even religious conservative girls on gag done with this incel bullshit. I though you are stupid bot due to your many weird links and this is i want to block you but i realize later you ain't. Now let me alone. Stop spamming. You can agree to disagree. I am done with this bs
These motherfuckers really think a young woman will want their expired ass just because they are a man. Like dont you have a self-respect? Would you want your daughter to be with a man who is the same age as you? Conservative traditional religious women marry men who are approved by their dads and these women are seen good by the redpill incels but they forget to think that the dads of these women won't want an expired delusional motherfuckers as son-in-law. I swear no traditional religious women want expired old men. Only golddiggers want old men
@wester you prove my point, all these golddiggers will line up for trashy man if they have money, not because they are into these expired goods who get cheated on by their golddiggers gfs. If you keep comparing average women to these golddiggers, you will be delusional like this forever.
Look i am not like your mum who give birth to you in a brothel. You can't just call me sidechick and insult me, and then say nothing. i did not even see your insults in the past. To the men here, if you really want good women, then stop going to brothels, clubs etc. Go to libraries, mosque, church etc. These men only chase for golddiggers for beauty but then get angry at average random woman
Well written, although I wish you had included women's weaponization of the legal system, something they regularly deploy against men with horribly one-sided results. That alone deters (or should deter) any man with even a modicum of enlightened self-interest from becoming involved with any women other than prostitutes (who are far more interested in money and repeat business than they are in vengeance). The average woman is a serious danger to all men.
I know what you need Kraken and please donât take this the wrong way.. you need one woman who can show you all women arenât the same thatâs it ! Do you wake up with lemons 🍋 in your mouth?
The reason why men wonât invest.. they simply canât attract quality women.
@kc_4308. I really don't believe that to be true. Young men have been given a bunch of "data" (for lack of a better term) about what "women want". When men, who are essentially logic driven, begin to apply this data they find it is not only NOT valid, it is destructive.
As for me, I am past the dating/hookup period of life so this stuff doesn't apply to me. I am just shocked to see the brutality of the modern dating world and I fear the long term consequences for the West.
Weâll factor in the vaccine because we have a bigger problem- this is beyond dating for the âWestâ .. once you see my next post itâll make sense
You could honestly take this whole thing and revers the genders and would have the same out come. Society changes, though what is desirable about a potential spouse is not.
There are gonna be shitty people no matter where you go. Instead of whining about how unfair it is you could just do what the rest of us do and avoid them...
@Subarugirl You MIGHT be able to reverse this once women hit 40 or so. In your 20's women have enormous "dating" power, well beyond what average men have.
the ability find someone to hook up with sure, I can get onboard with that, but that all comes down to standards. If men weren't so desperate to get laid and raised their standards a little there wouldn't be so much of a gap.
You make it sound like a woman having standers about who she wants to be in a relationship with is bad thing.
@Subarugirl Not at all, standards are a very good thing! The problem is when young women have so many choices they treat men like a disposable resource. This is not without precedent as when people have a surplus of anything they tend to take it for granted.
You make inference to guys wanting to get laid, you say this like it is a sudden epiphany.
With the enormous difference in dating power between men and women in their 20's, a woman who complains about bad, abusive, vacant, relationships; is PICKING THE WRONG MEN.
As a woman in your 20's wielding the overwhelming majority of dating power, YOU ONLY HAVE TO MAKE A GOOD CHOICE IN A MAN ONCE. You women have the power, you really do, but you wield it like a three-year-old with a crayon. So tell me, who's at fault? The person with the power or the person without the power?
What exactly gives women all this power? Do you really think that you and all the other men are so powerless and incapable of making good choices? Does an obese woman in her 20s have the same power, or is it just the pretty ones?
Exactly what power are you talking about? The power to say no? To chose who she wants to be with? Women have been treated like sexual object for just about ever, and when they decide to used that to their benefit you wanna start crying about how unfair is it? Seriously?
Last I checked dating was a mutual decision. It takes two. I don't think that you actually have an issue women, I think you have an issue with pretty privilege. I think that you are bitter looking at a bunch of beautiful young women and see how the world treats them and it reminds you of your own mortality.
@Subarugirl Because you are going to keep denying the fantastically obvious, I will let you reply and get the last word. I simply don't have the interest to explain the most basic facts in the male/female world to you.
And what makes you think that balding, wrinkly, fat, white haired 40 yr old men have plenty of hot 20 something yr old women running after him? By the time you are 40, you're not gonna have as many options as you had when you were 30. You're probably gonna have to settle for a 30 something yr old women, by then.
ohh this IS very much related. What makes you think only women settle but men don't have to? what makes you think only women age but men don't?
I don't even care to read your takes anymore. Its really not worth my time to read some anti woman , woman hating BS by some misogynist who hates women cuz his mother didn't breast feed him enough when he was younger
just look at your profile picture, you worship death. there's nothing as hopeless, sad , bitter and dark as you. there's no light at the end of the tunnel for you. Better way to end the pain would just be suicide.
@anykayd by the way a mans value in society isnât based on looks itâs more external a womanâs is based on looks and by the time your 30 your market value decreases by a lot and keeps decreasing why do you think older men have much younger prettier wives ever see modern family
Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:
Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them. In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men. Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.
where does it say that young women are marrying men 10-30 years older than them?
Most men marry women younger than they are; with the difference being between two and three years in Spain, the UK reporting the difference to be on average about three years, and the US, two and a half. The pattern was also confirmed for the rest of the world, with the gap being largest in Africa.
so your looks don't fade? what makes you think a hot 20 something yr old girl would go for a weak, balding, white haired, wrinkly, fat guy? she has tons of handsome, tall, strong, fast young men with a full head of hair chasing her. why would she pick an ugly old man over a handsome young man?
when you're an ugly old guy, you'd be lucky if you can get a 35 yr old woman to look your way.
@anykayd Iâm saying looks arenât as important for men as they are for women you canât compete with a younger hotter female in terms of fertility and physique
@BigKevHanma Now if you are talking about a relationship that become sharder, because now they care more about the bond they form with you than anything else. Not money, not status, they want love. So it's actually harder. Specially if you are an almost 40 year old men trying to seriously date a very young women. Very little chances she will want a relationship.
hun, you're so delusional. By the time you're 40, losing hair, gaining weight, growing wrinklier by the year, you're not gonna be able to get a 25 yr old woman. You will find yourself having to settle for a 35 yr old woman. Or you may even get no woman at all.
do you really think hot young attractive women really want to look at your wrinkling face and white haired head suffering from hair loss?
@anykayd you sound jealous Iâm sorry that youâll have to settle because a womanâs value is based on her appearance no matter how successful you become your still just an old hag no old or young guy wants to bang I truly pity you
@cheyanna the coping mechanism they have is phenomenal! They actually believe that men's value in the dating market increases over age. Do you know why? Because they have no luck with girls be and desperately want to believe that one day they will.
@disgustingweebtrash there is nothing wrong with hoping you will have better luck tomorrow, the day after or the day after. There is nothing wrong with believing that the future will be better. The message I want to get across is that lucky will not come just because you are older! Have you seen the average 35 year old walking around with his beer in hand asking where the girls he was promised are? Work on yourself. Not just money, that will get you the wrong kind of attention. Work on yourself overall and your 30's might be better. Don't sit around and hope it will happen.
Yes.. I mean are you even real? You're saying that the whole idea is false because "if you dont do shit your 30s will be bad." The dating power shifts to men as they age because none of them sit around waiting for it to happen. Why are you being dishonest?
[Even if that were true - what is wrong with a man hoping he would have better luck when he's older?]
I think everyone hopes they have better luck as they get older , both men and women. But truthfully, dating doesn't get better for people as they get older. Overwhelming majority of us do not look hotter or sexier as we get older. I know it. You also know it.
Your entire delusional rants about how men get more attractive as they approach 50 is just your way of calming your fears of being single forever.
[They actually believe that men's value in the dating market increases over age. Do you know why? Because they have no luck with girls be and desperately want to believe that one day they will.]
You have nailed it perfectly! They desperately want to believe that some day, they can somehow get out of their terrible rut of constantly being rejected by women. Its pathetic , really. If nobody wants you while you look good, who would want you when you look bad at 40?
@disgustingweebtrash but if you don't sit around and work on yourself you will also have luck in your 20's! That is the main point! Age has nothing to do with it. It comes down to you!
Objectively women have better dating potential in their 20s than men in their 20s. This isn't even a problem it's just how it and then it shifts into men's favour in their 30s. Why do you act like this is such a big problem and try to apply your individualist ethos bulllshit
@cheyanna I speak form experience. I never used to have any luck on the dating world. What I did? Improved myself, worked my ass off to be a better person overall. Looks, personality, chemistry it all matters. But to them money and status are everything. They are everything to get gold diggers! Not to quality women.
Reality is, men in their 30s do not tend to have better dating lives. In fact, I have met a TON of guys in their 30s without dating lives or finding it extremely difficult to find a woman. They constantly reminisce about the good old days where they had tons of gfs in their 20s. I will tell you why. It is because their social lives were the best in their 20s. All their female friends were single, their guy friends were all single.
By the time they hit their early 30s, they lost a significant number of their friends due to them getting married/ engaged. So they have less active social lives. People in their 30s find it harder to get dates because a lot of the females within their social circles are already married, engaged, or in serious relationships. Women tend to get taken as they get older. Leaving their single peers all alone and without social lives.
From my experience, smart guys tend to start getting serious about dating and settling by the time they hit their early 30s. By the time most guys hit 35, they are already married , engaged or with kids. Late 30s is when men usually start panicking and desperately try to settle down with absolutely anyone.
Men look best from late 20s- early 30s. Anything after early 30s just goes downhill. This is the time when white hairs start forming, bald spots appear, weight gain becoming increasingly apparent. By late 30s, a man is already out of his physical prime. I think you set too high expectations for your own looks down the road.
That is lot of cope in text format. Biological clock affects women more than men due to having children. I don't know why you delude from it but whatever keeps you going
women do not have to worry about being unable to have kids. Single women can have kids. Single men can't. If a woman truly wanted kids, she could always have kids before her child bearing years are over. But if you're a single man, there's no way in hell you're gonna have kids unless you get married.
You're just gonna wait into your 40-50s when you're getting older and uglier by the year, hoping that a young woman would look your way. By this age, you'd be glad if you can even get a 35 yr old woman's attention. who wants to fuck an old ugly dude? nobody
you're just assuming that ALL men look better when they hit their early 30s. I can tell you that this is really not the case for every guy. I have seen guys as young as 33 who already have a bald spot in the middle of their heads. That bald spot is just gonna get bigger as they hit 40.
People date in their 20s and get married in their 30s. By the time most guys hit 35, they are already married, engaged or have kids. Nobody starts dating in their 30s. People get married in their 30s
After 30 your time is running out. A man can bust even into his 60s. Also having a child as a single parent is a selfish act you're actually so morally warped and desperate to appear superior you would even suggest having a child as a single parent just to win one over holy fk that's levels of cope I've never seen before
Time never runs out for women. If I want kids , I CAN ALWAYS HAVE THEM before my child bearing years are over. I do not have to worry about never having kids , like men. If I'm 34-35, I can ALWAYS HAVE KIDS , if I want.
The older, wrinklier, fatter, saggier a man gets, the less likely a young woman will pay him any attention. So you better secure your "young women" while you still look hot.
I'm in my mid 20s and I have no plans on dating anyone beyond the age of 33. I have plenty of young guys I can date, why would i choose an old aging man? Old ugly men are for older women.
Dude I just stopped talking I said what I had to say you all can sit here and pretend women donât like rich or successful men regardless of their age and yâall can sit here and pretend that women arenât extremely replaceable in looks department
My biggest reason is not being able to find anyone to invest in one, WITH!! The one time I did, the bitch eventually fucked me over by cheating on me after 10 years!!
@devilish-cutie. If you could not find a good man in your 20's this is your fault. Plain and simple. If you partied away your prime sexual market value you need to take responsibility for that.
Your statement "this is how WEAK men act", is like other women 30+ saying "where have all the good men gone" or "I need a real man". Which is woman-speak for "no man will have me because my behavior and attitude is incredibly poor".
You being 30+ will only have a harder time landing a quality man, so you had better check your privilege and realize you can't "bitch" a man into loving you.
You dont know nothing about me so I don't know what you are even on about. It's so easy to put blame on someone without actually knowing anything about their life. For your record, I look like im 20 so guys 20+ show iterest in me all the time, so my age doesn't matter at all. So go figure, its not black and white oh im 30, im old the horror! Honestly i dont care, ill look 30 when 40, im generally pretty and men are always interested in me, as to most men looks are everything in the woman. Anyways, there are so many great amazing mature men out there, the one you discribed is really immature and weak in my eyes, that's all i meant to say.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Look, if you have found the perfect woman, good for you --- seriously. Just understand that your situation is the rarest of all circumstances. Your criticism of men is like ridiculing someone for NOT winning the lottery.
But at the same time it's also a load of bull. What you described, guys do it too and it's pretty cruel, e. g. a guy that acts as a player & womanizer ( but deep down that's not really him) and his friends with benefits falls for him. He doesn't care & rejects. Also of course just plenty of regular girls available to date, but the guy is dumb like a 12 year old still playing video games, living in mommy's basement. Or thr high standard high value men who are so picky that almost all girls are out of their league. My last point is that: the heart wants what it wants. If a girl goes back talking to an ex or thinks of him, maybe he was truly the only one for her & they shouldn't have broken up. It's hard to change the heart, trust me
@Nazgol. Your contempt for men who have decided not to play your game is clear. "Plenty of men do this too"... A very small percentage of men do this relative to the large percentage of women who do. Remember, women have the vast majority of power in your 20's, how you use it is up to you. The fact that most women use their peak dating power to party, twerk, cock carousel, rather than find a single good man; is the fault of women, not men.
You seem to have one reply to all the girls that answered. That is is really dumb, not all girls are the same so how can you possibly reply back with the same thing? It doesn't work, your repetitive stance.
There's also a funny thing that happens when you keep getting rejected. You become depressed because the opposite gender is telling you you're not worth it, so you stop pursuing relationships and then friendships until you just dont leave the house unless you go to work or to the store
I didn't read all that because the answer to why men won't invest in relationships is very simple. Relationships do not offer men what they use to, they are more "costly" and risky today, and today men can get the most important benefit offered by relationships of the past without a relationship.
Lol actually I am not. I would be lying if I said there hasnât been struggles but I am not âtired of my relationshipâ. You do realize that you can have difficulty with something and not want to end it, right?
Anon... "A total lack of what women want from a relationship".. I have to believe you are a female posting as a male, especially when you say things like the previous statement. Why is it the conversation ALWAYS has to be about what women want in a relationship and what men want is either irrelevant or "sexist"?
When men feel they are expendable, replaceable, commoditized, interchangeable; at a moments notice, with the owner always eyeing an "upgrade", there really isn't an incentive to "invest".
To address your "deep insecurity" comment, if this were an isolated issue I might agree... but it is not. Younger men have seen what their mothers did to their fathers in divorce, or they have witnessed their mom talking horribly about their father, or using the young man (as a boy) and siblings as a weapon.
These same mothers told these boys how they should go out "and find a nice girl to settle down with", but pushed these boys into a world for which they were completely unprepared, armed only with mommy's horrible dating advice.
What's the point? You're delusional. Never argue with delusional people because they can't be reasoned out of a position they never reasoned themselves into. You can only medicate them.
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I won't give up. Finding the one for me, she's out there. Sounds corny, but I keep trying.
It's unfortunate how many bad experiences a person can have with the opposite sex to make them give up or just 1 girl or guy caused it in their lives.
@Hairylegs222 Bro, there is nothing wrong for looking for "the one". My one huge piece of advice would be to LISTEN TO THE LITTLE VOICE IN YOUR HEAD. If that voice tells you something is wrong, you need to listen to it.
Yes and my gut instinct. Usually my gut instinct is always right warning me about something that feels off.
@Hairylegs222 More younger men need to be told this. Men are often told to ignore their instincts when it comes to women as they are just happy she is with him, when in fact the warning sirens are screaming in the back of his head.
You are the exceptional man in a sea of mediocrity here. I am sure you will find your one.
@NicoletteXO Thanks you're kind đ
No bitterness whatsoever towards women , single dad to a teen daughter , simply cannot be arsed with the pantomime known as " dating " , and to me , relationships = stress & aggravation. Simply prefer own company , you can only truly rely on yourself anyway.
Not surprising. The men who do invest are usually less attractive and no muscles. Who can blame the poor woman. And by muscles don't auto think huge bicep bodies. I'm talking no dad bod but no average joe either.
So no wonder they grow disappointed at the quality of the crop of men who will invest but are... let's face it... disappointing physically.
No wonder divorces happen hahaha or depressing marriages.
It's easy to think in a woman's shoes when you imagine yourself saying you love a woman despite her masculine race and bad lip hair habit that she refuses to shave and you remind her every week but she never does.
Little things you know... so it's easy to see it really is fair's fair. You know.
*face
(auto correct: her masculine face).
no offence but men care more about physical appearance than women do.
Perhaps but at the same time, what woman wouldn't deny that a man can always be improved. Especially if he's lazy and needs that motivational kick up the backside to get off the couch and lift some weights and eat healthier with her by his side :)
I'm sure that explains so many eventually breakups and divorces: because the man was someone she settled for less, not a man who was ectomorph gymnastics fit and tall. No I don't mean big like Arnold and wide as a semi trailer. I mean more like a blend of Spider Man Batman muscles. And what woman wouldn't swoon for being able to show that off better than a ring đ¤đ¤đ¤đ she'd be the luckiest girl in the world feelin' đ
I don't have a dad bod and I invested in my relationship. In fact I am married.
Cool man. Is it a soulmate type love at first sight that's remained or just a typical average marriage? Has it been long? Has it been happy? Any regrets? Personally I'm content with my fate of single for life and by choice I am happy :)
You are happy with being singles for life? Good! No really amazing. Many people today chose that.
And yes I couldn't be happier with my choice too.
Especially when I have more money for selfish me hahaha I'm so grateful to God everyday. I could never be an atheist. Satan devil god universe grim reaper, I'm grateful to them all hahaha and I keep being grateful and humble đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤ŁâŽď¸âŽď¸âŽď¸âŽď¸ peace bro
I think most women ask for commitment way to fast. It's one thing when you reached the state when both wants a family. Men has started to require attention back, and not just be a giver. That what is causing most complaints I have seen. Since most relationship doesn't make it far enough to even be about commitment to create something bigger then themselves.
Commitment of resources should be withheld by both people until they see the other is a "genuine" human being.
A lot of complaint's women have about dating is easily fixable for themselves due to them not being expected to provide/have any resources, but a man's only solution often is to gain resources to be more valuable in the area of dating.
Or to put all that wall of text more succinctly:
"Just because it takes two to Tango, doesn't mean everyone is good at it, or knows the right steps".
People tend to forget that you bring something to the relationship, the other party too. But it's only if you have the right combination that it will work out. Just because one party has it all or the other is something "special" means very little long term.
Amazing mytake, you hit the nail!
Can't be more well written than this...
Sadly this is the reality...
@TonyMetal___86 Thanks man.
Your welcome, keep up the good work đ
The same can be said for women. How many women don't invest in relationships and just play the guy with no intention of giving him sex let alone going on a date.
@red324. That's exactly my point. It seems as though men are expected to do all of the heavy lifting and risk taking in a relationship.
If women would be willing to meet a man halfway more people would be happier.
So false. Men who donât invest in relationship are the ones who barely invest in their oneself. Women dont have a foot in and a foot out , we just go to work and make sure we donât depend on a man to eat. We are not flowers ready to be picked and ruined by any insecure or immature man
@Toldol2. At your age you have finally realized how your bad behaviour in your youth had landed you where you are. Projecting on to men becomes a less and less effective tactic as you get older. You will need to try a new approach, like becoming a faithful and worthy partner.
I do invest in my self. I bought myself an expensive watch , a 3d printer, lots of video games. Gonna get some LEDs for my car next.
@krakenAttackin and where did I land with my bad behaviour? What is my current approach exactly? You donât know what you are talking about. Men who invest in relationships are the ones who took the Time to invest in the relationship with themself first Period.
@grega239 this is what you call investment? Any fool can buy anything he wants with the money he makes. Women do it too. All you talk about is your stupid material. What about inner self here? And traumas that makes you avoid to invest in relationship? Guys you are off @krakenAttacking
Well yea, material possessions won't neglect me or cheat on me
@grega239 very true tho ahah
Exactly! You are indĂŠpendant. But the man has to do all the firsts everything? So much more pressure for the man. You just sit their and wait, don't have to do any work. If your were so independent, you'd ask a guy out, you'd do the first kiss, etc.. And then there's usually the man that has to pay everything on the begging mostly. Why can't we be on equal grounds? I person always try to work on my self. I try to eat right, I workout, and the hardest and most challenging to work on, is mental health.
@Paul09 yea. Women aren't independent. Asking a guy out isn't even a consideration.
Their physical limitation alone makes sure a man will be asked for help eventually.
@Paul09 Men and women have different needs obviously. And When it comes to dating and relationship we are not going to deny that women rare more in touch with their feelings and men withdraw a lot. You say you want to be asked out but you guys are rarely available too for connections and in general. Women can be harsh but you have to admit that guys give a lot of sâŹâŹâŹ to women too and it could be very cruel sometimes. How do women Chase a man?
Yes maybe some men not all, not me. There's always 2 sides to look at. You can't possible be a adult and still wait for men to ask you out. Women should feel what we feel when we have to ask the big questions. It's b. S that one sex has to act this way, while the other acts like that. Humans are weird. Traditions are ment to be broken.
So we can't want chads aka 10% of men but guys like you can want 10% of women (?).
For you women over 30s are bad women. This means you or guys like you reject 80-90% of women but complain when women does the same. This is what i dont understand-Maybe i am wrong.
At least dont be hypocritical. It is suprising how ignorant some guys are. Majority of women ain't in their 20s. Only 10-20% of women are in their 20s. So why it is ok to want 10%-20% of women but women get hate for wanting 10-20% of men?
I personally dont care who you prefere. You can have preferences but just dont hate on 80-90% of women just because you decide to prefere to date 10% of women and had bad experience with young women.
I can't stand it when you only see 10-20% of women dateable due their age but also hate on women for seeing 10% of men as dateable since it is hypocritical.
just date a 30+ year old when you're 20 theory
What do you mean? I am very open minded when it comes to dating preferences. I really respect it when guys have physical preferences. It is perfectly ok if you prefere curvy, thick, tall, thin, blonde etc women. I am saying this so nobody misunderstand me. I really dont if you prefere women in their mid 20s for example but many guys dont know that women in their 20s are minority. So by wanting young women you make your dating pool small and risk getting immature women since the brain development continue till in the mid 20s which affect the personality and maturity. So if a much older guy had a bad experience with a young woman due to different maturity level, he may think all women are like this which i see it a lot on gag.
bro if you're 20 just date a 30+ year old woman whats the problem
I prefere guys in their early 20s. Men in their 30s+ are too old too me. I also want to get kids in my mid to late 20s. So when i want kids he is going to be 40-50s
The sperm quality of old men are trash and they are more likely to get kids with disabilities. Men also die before women.. i want my men to live with me and die before me since i can't endure this
@disgustingweebtrash oohh lool. Why would a 20 years old man date women in their 30s+
Makes sense but your entire explanation is telling any man who is in the 80% category even if he's in early 20s to "just date someone much older bro"
Nooo
This is not what i mean. Sorry i can perfectly understand when men in their 20s want to date women in their 20s but i dont understand when all men want young women 'cause of different maturity level etc
men in their 30s probably want younger women because they had issue getting women when they were in their early 20s so they want to "relive" themselves
@disgustingweebtrash And you really think in their 30's they have a better shot then they had in their 20's? No twenty year old girl will prefer a 37 over a 27 year old.
It is weird to me but it is their life although i would not recommend this due to different maturity level because of brain development
The divorce rate is also higher among couples with big age gap. I personally think men my age are great
@disgustingweebtrash
@This-Is_My_Opinion8 you are right according to statistics. Women prefere men who are 1-5 years older and not old men.
I know another divorce statistic with big gaps
@disgustingweebtrash Do you know what is the main cause of divorce? Lack of commitmnet and effort.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yes I wonder why that is
@disgustingweebtrash
stop trying to keep your hopes up by saying that all 22 yr old women want 40 yr old men, it doesn't work that way.
@anykayd Why are the mid twenties women constantly hitting me up when I'm in my 50s? Shouldn't they know better? Have you not gotten to them yet?
@Wester1967
haha you think its common for 22 yr old women to be dating 55 yr olds? nobody is gonna believe that. stop dreaming. we all know you're desperately trying to make yourself feel better
@Wester1967
by the way, just cuz a woman wants sex from you, it doesn't mean she wants to marry you.
@cheyanna You have zero chance of dating me. Much less getting it on. Shaming and insults get you a sheet of ice. Go ice skating.
@Wester1967
why would I want to date you? you're gonna be applying to the senior home in a few years, i have no plans on dying there with you.
@cheyanna Sorry lady, you sound dead already
The maker of this take is the biggest hypocrite. He had an abusive or toxic ex but victim blame women if they got abused by their exs since they choose them. He also chose his ex but he never blamed himself for choosing a crazy bad woman.
It is also funny how almost all female gagers disagree with him. When you blame every shit on women and be hypocrite as f. Do not expect from women to support your bs. If the genders were reversed this take would be called a feminazi bs. He is no different than a feminazi
Accountability is kryptonite ⌠I see it going both waysâŚ. Problem is, the idea of just massive FU to most guys, forces women to end up chasing the top 15-20% of guys. Who are the considerate, respectful, AND good providers AND good protectorsâŚWhich basically means these guys have 3-4 women hot after them all the time. And once theyâre married? The other 2-3 just want to be side chicks? While the bottom 80% of guys get to FO and die? Really the attitude on both sides seems to be a downward spiral to absolute and total disaster.
If you read the FDS sub I swear to white jeezus, you could cut and paste every word back and forth between Red Pill uncle and FDS.
All I can see right now is humanity going extinct. Or, conversely, just stop complaining and prove to everyone that they have to be good men by going out and finding one and taking him off the market and proving yourself correct. Nobody has to hear about it. Instead of coming here to tell me I am totally full of it, deserve to die and complain about all these guys who need to get their shit together
No the problem these same men wants chad's girlfriend , otherwise why they care what kind of women a chad get? So called bad boys habe pretty but crazy girls. If she was ugly none of you would be jealous of these bad boys. So i really dont understand why you compare a crazy idiotic with mental issues with average women? Would you like it if i compare you to badboys and call of you bad?
Where tf i said you are all of it and deserve to die? Are you even talking to me?
Oh sorry
You are talking to cheyanna
@hi_it_is_me123. Honey, you have the market cornered on crazy.
What are you talking about?
@cheyanna My girlfriend is 19 & I am 32 lol.
@disgustingweebtrash why don't you tell me why you think that happens?
150 women after the 4 guys they're all attracted to -- Go be a side chick concubine. Go get in line.
BGS went over this tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsC6-SJS8MA
OOPS --- Autoplay fast forwarded -- Try this one instead this is BGS
150 women after 4 guys they're all attracted to. Good. Go be a concubine. Go be a side chick. Go get in line. Bet your momma gonna be proud of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdR1AMfyhTM
@IdiotWester you are blocked for trolling/spamming. You are probably a bot. Lool even bots on gag are stupid as f and act like an incel
I see no difference between him and a feminazi. Both generalize, trashtalk the whole gender, never want to responsible for their own problems, are hypocritical etc. He is the biggest hypocrite i have seen.
Anyone who hate feminazis but agree with this bs are delusional hypocrite. If a woman wrote a take like this about men, she would be a feminazi
Actually most older guys chase younger women because they typically aren't jaded and polluted yet. Some present company excluded.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 No, the main cause of divorce is women filing for divorce.
@Wester1967 Spot on.
Just come back here to find Iâm blocked. I spent my 20s and 30s as one of the biggest feminists out there.
Like I am not the person to block unless youâre a blockhead.
The point is that all my 2nd wave feminist GFs form the 80s and 90s ended up with ridiculous miserable horrible lives. Single moms terrorizing their children by removing all the men and actual fathers. No woman wants to hear any of it. No responsibility. No accountability.
I was there. I was all on their side. Easily 30 women I know personally screwed their lives up. And their kids. Not just a little. A lot. I mean hell. I know I made a mistake. At least I can admit it. For the rest, reality will never enter. Iâm âa botâ, âa Naziâ, âtoxicâ etc etc. all thatâs psychological projection. Iâm just a guy who saw all of it up close.
âI am obliged to speak. I will never shut up.â - Samuel Beckett
Yes every self respecting girl is a feminist but you guys are never biggest mgtiw incels. Even religious conservative girls on gag done with this incel bullshit. I though you are stupid bot due to your many weird links and this is i want to block you but i realize later you ain't. Now let me alone. Stop spamming. You can agree to disagree. I am done with this bs
I am not going to block you. It was a misunderstanding but i really dont want to discuss. I dont want to get any notifications anymore.
Anyway i am really sorry for misunderstanding you. I really thought that you are a bot. These days gag have many bots.
@KrakenAttackin And why do they file for divorce... Number one motive is lack of commitment.
@westertheidioticblockhed how tf you can come back when you are blocked? And who tf are you to insult me?
These motherfuckers really think a young woman will want their expired ass just because they are a man. Like dont you have a self-respect? Would you want your daughter to be with a man who is the same age as you? Conservative traditional religious women marry men who are approved by their dads and these women are seen good by the redpill incels but they forget to think that the dads of these women won't want an expired delusional motherfuckers as son-in-law. I swear no traditional religious women want expired old men. Only golddiggers want old men
@wester you prove my point, all these golddiggers will line up for trashy man if they have money, not because they are into these expired goods who get cheated on by their golddiggers gfs. If you keep comparing average women to these golddiggers, you will be delusional like this forever.
Look i am not like your mum who give birth to you in a brothel. You can't just call me sidechick and insult me, and then say nothing. i did not even see your insults in the past. To the men here, if you really want good women, then stop going to brothels, clubs etc. Go to libraries, mosque, church etc. These men only chase for golddiggers for beauty but then get angry at average random woman
Well written, although I wish you had included women's weaponization of the legal system, something they regularly deploy against men with horribly one-sided results. That alone deters (or should deter) any man with even a modicum of enlightened self-interest from becoming involved with any women other than prostitutes (who are far more interested in money and repeat business than they are in vengeance). The average woman is a serious danger to all men.
I know what you need Kraken and please donât take this the wrong way.. you need one woman who can show you all women arenât the same thatâs it ! Do you wake up with lemons 🍋 in your mouth?
The reason why men wonât invest.. they simply canât attract quality women.
Their quality themselves because they have issues
@kc_4308. I really don't believe that to be true. Young men have been given a bunch of "data" (for lack of a better term) about what "women want". When men, who are essentially logic driven, begin to apply this data they find it is not only NOT valid, it is destructive.
As for me, I am past the dating/hookup period of life so this stuff doesn't apply to me. I am just shocked to see the brutality of the modern dating world and I fear the long term consequences for the West.
Weâll factor in the vaccine because we have a bigger problem- this is beyond dating for the âWestâ .. once you see my next post itâll make sense
@KrakenAttackin
its great how we are taking dating advice from a man who hates women and had never been on a date.
he's a known troll asshole loser. Lmaom i didn't even read hs shitpost.
You could honestly take this whole thing and revers the genders and would have the same out come. Society changes, though what is desirable about a potential spouse is not.
There are gonna be shitty people no matter where you go. Instead of whining about how unfair it is you could just do what the rest of us do and avoid them...
@Subarugirl You MIGHT be able to reverse this once women hit 40 or so. In your 20's women have enormous "dating" power, well beyond what average men have.
the ability find someone to hook up with sure, I can get onboard with that, but that all comes down to standards. If men weren't so desperate to get laid and raised their standards a little there wouldn't be so much of a gap.
You make it sound like a woman having standers about who she wants to be in a relationship with is bad thing.
Smh đđđ
@Subarugirl Not at all, standards are a very good thing! The problem is when young women have so many choices they treat men like a disposable resource. This is not without precedent as when people have a surplus of anything they tend to take it for granted.
You make inference to guys wanting to get laid, you say this like it is a sudden epiphany.
So many men do exactly the same thing. Hit it and quit it.. that's a tale as old as time right there.
With the enormous difference in dating power between men and women in their 20's, a woman who complains about bad, abusive, vacant, relationships; is PICKING THE WRONG MEN.
As a woman in your 20's wielding the overwhelming majority of dating power, YOU ONLY HAVE TO MAKE A GOOD CHOICE IN A MAN ONCE. You women have the power, you really do, but you wield it like a three-year-old with a crayon. So tell me, who's at fault? The person with the power or the person without the power?
What exactly gives women all this power? Do you really think that you and all the other men are so powerless and incapable of making good choices? Does an obese woman in her 20s have the same power, or is it just the pretty ones?
Exactly what power are you talking about? The power to say no? To chose who she wants to be with? Women have been treated like sexual object for just about ever, and when they decide to used that to their benefit you wanna start crying about how unfair is it? Seriously?
Last I checked dating was a mutual decision. It takes two. I don't think that you actually have an issue women, I think you have an issue with pretty privilege. I think that you are bitter looking at a bunch of beautiful young women and see how the world treats them and it reminds you of your own mortality.
@Subarugirl Because you are going to keep denying the fantastically obvious, I will let you reply and get the last word. I simply don't have the interest to explain the most basic facts in the male/female world to you.
if you can't explain that's fine. I would assume that someone like you with such a strong stance would at least try to back it up..
@KrakenAttackin
And what makes you think that balding, wrinkly, fat, white haired 40 yr old men have plenty of hot 20 something yr old women running after him? By the time you are 40, you're not gonna have as many options as you had when you were 30. You're probably gonna have to settle for a 30 something yr old women, by then.
@anykayd How is your comment relevant to the My Take?
@KrakenAttackin
ohh this IS very much related. What makes you think only women settle but men don't have to? what makes you think only women age but men don't?
I don't even care to read your takes anymore. Its really not worth my time to read some anti woman , woman hating BS by some misogynist who hates women cuz his mother didn't breast feed him enough when he was younger
@anykayd I can just imagine your chicken neck going back and forth as you type. You sound like an angry black chick.
@KrakenAttackin
you sound like a bitter, sad, old man who lives in a graveyard, practices dark magic and black voodoo. there's nobody darker than you
@KrakenAttackin
just look at your profile picture, you worship death. there's nothing as hopeless, sad , bitter and dark as you. there's no light at the end of the tunnel for you. Better way to end the pain would just be suicide.
@anykayd wow he mustâve really hurt your little feelings
@BigKevHanma
Even if my feelings weren't hurt, i wouldn't be attracted to old men either. Have it your way. haha
@anykayd by the way a mans value in society isnât based on looks itâs more external a womanâs is based on looks and by the time your 30 your market value decreases by a lot and keeps decreasing why do you think older men have much younger prettier wives ever see modern family
@BigKevHanma
statistics would beg to differ:
www.
psychologytoday. com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201904/what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage
Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:
Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.
@BigKevHanma
where does it say that young women are marrying men 10-30 years older than them?
Most men marry women younger than they are; with the difference being between two and three years in Spain, the UK reporting the difference to be on average about three years, and the US, two and a half. The pattern was also confirmed for the rest of the world, with the gap being largest in Africa.
https//en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships#:~:text=Most%20men%20marry%20women%20younger, gap%20being%20largest%20in%20Africa.
@anykayd doesnât change the fact that womenâs value is based on their looks and once they fade your bottom of barrel and have to settle
@BigKevHanma
so your looks don't fade? what makes you think a hot 20 something yr old girl would go for a weak, balding, white haired, wrinkly, fat guy? she has tons of handsome, tall, strong, fast young men with a full head of hair chasing her. why would she pick an ugly old man over a handsome young man?
when you're an ugly old guy, you'd be lucky if you can get a 35 yr old woman to look your way.
@anykayd money
@anykayd Iâm saying looks arenât as important for men as they are for women you canât compete with a younger hotter female in terms of fertility and physique
@BigKevHanma And what do you think girls look for when they want to fuck? Besides looks and a sharp tongue?
@BigKevHanma Now if you are talking about a relationship that become sharder, because now they care more about the bond they form with you than anything else. Not money, not status, they want love. So it's actually harder. Specially if you are an almost 40 year old men trying to seriously date a very young women. Very little chances she will want a relationship.
@BigKevHanma
hun, you're so delusional. By the time you're 40, losing hair, gaining weight, growing wrinklier by the year, you're not gonna be able to get a 25 yr old woman. You will find yourself having to settle for a 35 yr old woman. Or you may even get no woman at all.
do you really think hot young attractive women really want to look at your wrinkling face and white haired head suffering from hair loss?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
nowadays women have their own careers and make their own money. We have our own money, we do not need to marry for money.
@anykayd you sound jealous Iâm sorry that youâll have to settle because a womanâs value is based on her appearance no matter how successful you become your still just an old hag no old or young guy wants to bang I truly pity you
@BigKevHanma
I think statistics have already proven you wrong. Most age differences are UNDER 10 years.
@cheyanna a womanâs value decreases as she ages while a man increases
@BigKevHanma
Statistics do not show that young women like men 10-30 years older.
@cheyanna a womanâs value decreases as she ages while a mans increases
@BigKevHanma
jennifer lopez is 51 and she dated baseball star alexander rodriguez
@cheyanna Jennifer Lopez is for the streets.
@Wester1967 exactly
@anykayd exactly! Times have changed and these guys don't seem to grasp that.
@cheyanna the coping mechanism they have is phenomenal! They actually believe that men's value in the dating market increases over age. Do you know why? Because they have no luck with girls be and desperately want to believe that one day they will.
Even if that were true - what is wrong with a man hoping he would have better luck when he's older?
If a woman did the same you wouldn't say shit. That's why you're a retard
@disgustingweebtrash there is nothing wrong with hoping you will have better luck tomorrow, the day after or the day after. There is nothing wrong with believing that the future will be better.
The message I want to get across is that lucky will not come just because you are older! Have you seen the average 35 year old walking around with his beer in hand asking where the girls he was promised are? Work on yourself. Not just money, that will get you the wrong kind of attention. Work on yourself overall and your 30's might be better.
Don't sit around and hope it will happen.
Yes.. I mean are you even real? You're saying that the whole idea is false because "if you dont do shit your 30s will be bad." The dating power shifts to men as they age because none of them sit around waiting for it to happen. Why are you being dishonest?
@disgustingweebtrash
[Even if that were true - what is wrong with a man hoping he would have better luck when he's older?]
I think everyone hopes they have better luck as they get older , both men and women. But truthfully, dating doesn't get better for people as they get older. Overwhelming majority of us do not look hotter or sexier as we get older. I know it. You also know it.
Your entire delusional rants about how men get more attractive as they approach 50 is just your way of calming your fears of being single forever.
Objectively men age better than women you're coping
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
[They actually believe that men's value in the dating market increases over age. Do you know why? Because they have no luck with girls be and desperately want to believe that one day they will.]
You have nailed it perfectly! They desperately want to believe that some day, they can somehow get out of their terrible rut of constantly being rejected by women. Its pathetic , really. If nobody wants you while you look good, who would want you when you look bad at 40?
@disgustingweebtrash but if you don't sit around and work on yourself you will also have luck in your 20's! That is the main point! Age has nothing to do with it. It comes down to you!
B-But i-if you dont.
Objectively women have better dating potential in their 20s than men in their 20s. This isn't even a problem it's just how it and then it shifts into men's favour in their 30s. Why do you act like this is such a big problem and try to apply your individualist ethos bulllshit
@cheyanna I speak form experience. I never used to have any luck on the dating world. What I did? Improved myself, worked my ass off to be a better person overall.
Looks, personality, chemistry it all matters. But to them money and status are everything. They are everything to get gold diggers! Not to quality women.
@disgustingweebtrash
Reality is, men in their 30s do not tend to have better dating lives. In fact, I have met a TON of guys in their 30s without dating lives or finding it extremely difficult to find a woman. They constantly reminisce about the good old days where they had tons of gfs in their 20s. I will tell you why. It is because their social lives were the best in their 20s. All their female friends were single, their guy friends were all single.
By the time they hit their early 30s, they lost a significant number of their friends due to them getting married/ engaged. So they have less active social lives. People in their 30s find it harder to get dates because a lot of the females within their social circles are already married, engaged, or in serious relationships. Women tend to get taken as they get older. Leaving their single peers all alone and without social lives.
@disgustingweebtrash
From my experience, smart guys tend to start getting serious about dating and settling by the time they hit their early 30s. By the time most guys hit 35, they are already married , engaged or with kids. Late 30s is when men usually start panicking and desperately try to settle down with absolutely anyone.
@disgustingweebtrash
Men look best from late 20s- early 30s. Anything after early 30s just goes downhill. This is the time when white hairs start forming, bald spots appear, weight gain becoming increasingly apparent. By late 30s, a man is already out of his physical prime. I think you set too high expectations for your own looks down the road.
That is lot of cope in text format. Biological clock affects women more than men due to having children. I don't know why you delude from it but whatever keeps you going
@cheyanna you keep saying bald and wrinkled but answer me this is looks all that women care about?
@disgustingweebtrash
women do not have to worry about being unable to have kids. Single women can have kids. Single men can't. If a woman truly wanted kids, she could always have kids before her child bearing years are over. But if you're a single man, there's no way in hell you're gonna have kids unless you get married.
You're just gonna wait into your 40-50s when you're getting older and uglier by the year, hoping that a young woman would look your way. By this age, you'd be glad if you can even get a 35 yr old woman's attention. who wants to fuck an old ugly dude? nobody
@BigKevHanma
you're just assuming that ALL men look better when they hit their early 30s. I can tell you that this is really not the case for every guy. I have seen guys as young as 33 who already have a bald spot in the middle of their heads. That bald spot is just gonna get bigger as they hit 40.
People date in their 20s and get married in their 30s. By the time most guys hit 35, they are already married, engaged or have kids. Nobody starts dating in their 30s. People get married in their 30s
After 30 your time is running out. A man can bust even into his 60s. Also having a child as a single parent is a selfish act you're actually so morally warped and desperate to appear superior you would even suggest having a child as a single parent just to win one over holy fk that's levels of cope I've never seen before
@disgustingweebtrash
Time never runs out for women. If I want kids , I CAN ALWAYS HAVE THEM before my child bearing years are over. I do not have to worry about never having kids , like men. If I'm 34-35, I can ALWAYS HAVE KIDS , if I want.
The older, wrinklier, fatter, saggier a man gets, the less likely a young woman will pay him any attention. So you better secure your "young women" while you still look hot.
Nvm ur a troll
@disgustingweebtrash
I'm in my mid 20s and I have no plans on dating anyone beyond the age of 33. I have plenty of young guys I can date, why would i choose an old aging man? Old ugly men are for older women.
That's your choice sweatie
@disgustingweebtrash
Just check out the statistics, the average age gap in the US of married couples is just 2-3.5 years.
@BigKevHanma As we said in naval aviation, "if you are taking fire, you must be right over the target".
he's a troll asshole idiot. I always remove his shitposts on my questions. he's a complete loser.
Dude I just stopped talking I said what I had to say you all can sit here and pretend women donât like rich or successful men regardless of their age and yâall can sit here and pretend that women arenât extremely replaceable in looks department
@anykayd You know you are over the target when the flak is the thickest đđđđđ.
My biggest reason is not being able to find anyone to invest in one, WITH!! The one time I did, the bitch eventually fucked me over by cheating on me after 10 years!!
Yeah, this is how WEAK men act, dont need that one anyways
And you are delusional thinking women have it easier, finding good match and right mate is very hard for everyone.
@devilish-cutie. If you could not find a good man in your 20's this is your fault. Plain and simple. If you partied away your prime sexual market value you need to take responsibility for that.
Your statement "this is how WEAK men act", is like other women 30+ saying "where have all the good men gone" or "I need a real man". Which is woman-speak for "no man will have me because my behavior and attitude is incredibly poor".
You being 30+ will only have a harder time landing a quality man, so you had better check your privilege and realize you can't "bitch" a man into loving you.
You dont know nothing about me so I don't know what you are even on about. It's so easy to put blame on someone without actually knowing anything about their life.
For your record, I look like im 20 so guys 20+ show iterest in me all the time, so my age doesn't matter at all. So go figure, its not black and white oh im 30, im old the horror! Honestly i dont care, ill look 30 when 40, im generally pretty and men are always interested in me, as to most men looks are everything in the woman.
Anyways, there are so many great amazing mature men out there, the one you discribed is really immature and weak in my eyes, that's all i meant to say.
@devilish-cutie. So you are happily married with a family?
... didn't think so.
@KrakenAttackin are you?
Soon as i sawthe poster name of OP i knew it was a b. s. post. he's a known troll and asshole idit.
@B83vtvre In your mind anyone who posts anything you don't like is a "troll" and an "asshole". Funny how almost all of the men agree with me.
Got owned, boom shakalaka boom!
Because we are one gag. That's why so many guys here agree with you.
Damn skippy
perfectly said it's that sort of bitchiness that puts guys making any investment in a potential partner,,,
https://youtu.be/fp3OfzXerZo
@B83vtvre Tell me where in this "my take" I am wrong? I am all ears.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Look, if you have found the perfect woman, good for you --- seriously. Just understand that your situation is the rarest of all circumstances. Your criticism of men is like ridiculing someone for NOT winning the lottery.
That's actually kinda sad, when you think about it:(
But at the same time it's also a load of bull. What you described, guys do it too and it's pretty cruel, e. g. a guy that acts as a player & womanizer ( but deep down that's not really him) and his friends with benefits falls for him. He doesn't care & rejects. Also of course just plenty of regular girls available to date, but the guy is dumb like a 12 year old still playing video games, living in mommy's basement. Or thr high standard high value men who are so picky that almost all girls are out of their league. My last point is that: the heart wants what it wants. If a girl goes back talking to an ex or thinks of him, maybe he was truly the only one for her & they shouldn't have broken up. It's hard to change the heart, trust me
Or the*
& of course there are still lot of guys aka "pigs" who objectify women & only see them as sex objects. That's still an existing serious issue
Serious girls have their hopes diminished because of these pigs who refuse to give girls a chance
Whats wrong with me. playin games? Nit like i have anything better to do besides my job
@Nazgol. Your contempt for men who have decided not to play your game is clear. "Plenty of men do this too"... A very small percentage of men do this relative to the large percentage of women who do. Remember, women have the vast majority of power in your 20's, how you use it is up to you. The fact that most women use their peak dating power to party, twerk, cock carousel, rather than find a single good man; is the fault of women, not men.
You seem to have one reply to all the girls that answered. That is is really dumb, not all girls are the same so how can you possibly reply back with the same thing? It doesn't work, your repetitive stance.
Not all girls partied & sexed up their primal years
@grega239 you do, trust me. It's just hard work that's why you don't want to. Like get married start a family
Afraid of hard work? I have more scars on my arms than your family has teeth. So no.
I do want a family. But since women dont seem to have an interest in dating me, video games it is
@grega239 exactly so instead of being persistent & trying harder you settle for video games, good old confort
*comfort
Tried for the last 6 years. Got nowhere. Im almost 30 now. How much more of my life do you want me to waste trying to find a woman?
There's also a funny thing that happens when you keep getting rejected. You become depressed because the opposite gender is telling you you're not worth it, so you stop pursuing relationships and then friendships until you just dont leave the house unless you go to work or to the store
@grega239 oh you're still young at 30. Sorry to break it to you, but you do have to keep trying
Right and because at 30, being still young, you want me to waste my youth to continue getting rejected until im 50.
Wouldn't it be better if i spend my younger years on things that would make me happy like parachuting or going traveling with a bike?
Or do you expect me to keep getting rejected until im 50?
@Nazgol. Maybe women should stop putting themselves out as sexual objects IRL and across social media? Just a crazy thought, I know.
@grega239 You are not alone my friend, and good for you for NOT sitting on multiple "friend zone benches".
I didn't read all that because the answer to why men won't invest in relationships is very simple. Relationships do not offer men what they use to, they are more "costly" and risky today, and today men can get the most important benefit offered by relationships of the past without a relationship.
The premise of this Take is flawed. You're putting the idea in women's minds that a man will help pay off her college tuition? Really?
@Jamie05rhs. Plenty of men have financially Simped for women.
@KrakenAttackin That's not simping. That's straight up cucking.
And you shouldn't be encouraging it by presenting that as a carrot to women it they straighten up.
"if"
@Jamie05rhs No buddy, I am not saying this should be a carrot, I am saying this is not uncommon. And I agree men should never do this.
Oh, okay. Cool.
guys.. im helping my husband pay off his collage tuition
@Subarugirl Maybe you are but you have given plenty of other info indicating you are tired of your relationship.
Lol actually I am not. I would be lying if I said there hasnât been struggles but I am not âtired of my relationshipâ. You do realize that you can have difficulty with something and not want to end it, right?
@Subarugirl Give it time. You will start back on dating sites and be more "deliberate" on social media.
Honey, just because your marriage was a failure doesnât mean that everyone elseâs will be.
This is a terrible my-take written from deep insecurity and a total lack of understanding what women want from a relationship.
His advice amounts to : "No, YOU change" and it's directed at all women.
That's... I don't have the words.
Anon... And you are so confident you felt the need to post Anonymously l
When u can't argue the facts, attack the poster. Nice try
Anon... "A total lack of what women want from a relationship".. I have to believe you are a female posting as a male, especially when you say things like the previous statement. Why is it the conversation ALWAYS has to be about what women want in a relationship and what men want is either irrelevant or "sexist"?
When men feel they are expendable, replaceable, commoditized, interchangeable; at a moments notice, with the owner always eyeing an "upgrade", there really isn't an incentive to "invest".
To address your "deep insecurity" comment, if this were an isolated issue I might agree... but it is not. Younger men have seen what their mothers did to their fathers in divorce, or they have witnessed their mom talking horribly about their father, or using the young man (as a boy) and siblings as a weapon.
These same mothers told these boys how they should go out "and find a nice girl to settle down with", but pushed these boys into a world for which they were completely unprepared, armed only with mommy's horrible dating advice.
Wow. You're so nutty sure you must be right only women could disagree with you?
If anyone only doubted your sanity before, you've given them concrete proof now...
Op... tell me where I am wrong. Again, you have to be a female posting as male.
What's the point? You're delusional. Never argue with delusional people because they can't be reasoned out of a position they never reasoned themselves into. You can only medicate them.
Op... yeah, thought so.
I could literally smack you across the face with my cock. It wouldn't help. You'd barely reluctantly admit you were wrong about my gender, then double down on your bullshit. Because that is how sure you're right and everyone else is wrong.
Another guy with common sense. Anonymous please to meet you.
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