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Nice guys DO finish last. It's sad, but it's true. (Page 2)
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Dude I'm slrry to say this but, they don't refuse to go out with you because of being a "nice guy", they refuse to go out with u because they don't find u attractive. If u were attractive, had confidence, and were a "nice guy" trust me they would be head over heels. Its not the fact that u are a "nice guy" that repels them, its your looks. Even if u don't have looks, you can still show some confidence. According to almost all women, they don't find "bad boys" attractive for being "bad boys" they find them attractive for being confident. If a nice guy was confident, then she would have no problem dating him (or at least this is the case for normal girls). But dude u need to face the facts, u can't blame it on your personality when it is obviously your looks/lack of confidence that repels them. So stop whining like a bitch and build up some confidence do that girls actually will go out with u. And remember, u can build confidence without turning into a "bad boy".
OP the first thing that is wrong with this is you picture that says "waiting for a girlfriend." You know when people say "good things come to those who wait?" Well that is bullshit. Good things don't just come. They don't just happen for you. You have to make good things happen. You have to go out there and get what you want.
Exactly, you have to be aggressive, that's what I'm getting at in my post. Nice guys don't get shit. Sure you can have good morals and still be assertive, but the nice guys girls "want" don't exist
>Waiting from a girlfriend
There is your problem.
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Go out there and get her. Life does not hand you your job, your education, your food, house, clothing, anything. Go out there and get her
I am still single, but I've been on dates. Nothing came to fruition because I let my own self doubt and loathing and hesitation get in the way.
I also realized that I was searching for a relationship just to be in one, for publicity, instead of being in one because I truly liked her.
You can either self loathe, hate and feel sorry, or you can grow a sack and start talking to random women from class, extra curriculars, whatever.
I'm still single, always have been. Hell my first kiss involved tequila and blackjack.
I used to whine and bitch about being lonely, but then I stopped caring
And I've never been better
*for a girlfriend
Damn phone
OP I was once a naiive nice guy. Thought that treating women with respect was the way to go. I then changed and what a stark difference. Quit being a loser, don't treat them like queens, don't hold doors open for them. Focus on yourself and just use them for your own purposes. Being a douche works bruh.
Hopefully not in the long run.
LoL I was so naive at the age of 17... I've learned so much since then, and I think you should respect my years of experience
The truth is, people (men and women) want to be with attractive and nice people. However, niceness CAN'T BE THE ONLY THING YOU BRING TO THE TABLE! You must show that person the many dimensions you contain by expressing who you are, honestly. Yes, women want a jerk. But, this only means they want a man with a backbone. This does't mean act like an insufferable ass. This is the only way. Of course, it's no guarantee she will say, "yes", when you ask her out, but as long as your true to your self, this won't matter.
Yes. It sucks to not be able to get laid. Yes, its sucks to not be in love, at the moment. But, I believe in taking life with all the bad and good it contains. My experiences won't consists of continual failures, so I won't ever give up. Even if I don't have anyone to share my bed with, or share how my day went.
Live life honestly, but with a dash of fearlessness. It's how I get by. ;)
I agree especially with the whole Where are the nice guys part? That makes my blood boil. Some women wear rose colored glasses and think guys who are nice are putting on a show? They also don't seem to realize these jerks they date are doing the same thing but they get away with it, because 1) They good looking and 2) They come off as macho. Now I consider myself nice in person I'm polite, hold doors, say thank you etc and I agree we get walked on like dirt. I'm just surprise we don't see more and more nice guys turning into Nazis lol.
Lets see how many females here are gonna down vote me for telling the truth.
Look now its two.
OP message me when you can.
People who are generally "nice" finish last in ALL areas of nice because nice is just code for passive, you can be nice and confident and assertive with women, but to most nice guys the two are mutually exclusive, and besides, being too "nice" with a girl shows two things number 1, you're easily controlled (huge turn off) number 2 (you're just desperate to get into her pants) because if you liked her for her personality, you'd treat her like one of your normal friends not some sex machine that allows you to trade favors and compliments for sex. That's it, rant over
oh my god stop
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How does this gif or saying "oh my god stop" help? If your intention is to vent, I'd say mission accomplished.
Other than saying "oh my god stop" and a Judge Judy meme, what else do you have to offer?
@Bluemax when did I say I was trying to help?
You didn't, nor did I state that you did.
Now again, how does this gif or saying "on my god stop" help?
I could see how it could hurt, but not how it could help.
@Bluemax guys complain about this on here every single day, people explain why they're the ones who are wrong and they still don't get it. It's getting old and I want it to stop, so that's what I said: stop. Happy?
And you believe that this meme and saying "oh my got stop" will change their mind and make them stop? I think it's more likely to just push make them rant even more.
@Bluemax of course not lol even if I made a 1000 words opinion trying to make them change their minds, it still wouldn't work. I wanted to post a gif and say "oh my god stop" and I did it. If you don't like it, I don't care. Feel free to post your own containing whatever you want.
It's not that I don't like it. It's that it's unhelpful.
By the way, it's b. s. you can't change people's minds. Granted, it's rare. But it's foolish to think we can't change people's minds. I have.
@Bluemax I never said it was helpful? I wanted to post it and I did. So what?
Good for you.
Worse than not being helpful, it might actually be damaging. Have you considered this?
@Bluemax no I haven't and honestly, I don't care.
@Bluemax
why the hell are you making a big deal out of a gif? i don't see how this can be damaging in any way... you're just too sensitive.
Believe me, it doesn't affect me. I was married. I had a woman. But it can affect others. It can push them away from hearing any real advice people have to offer.
@xCutesyLolitax I know, right? It's ridiculous.
@Bluemax Then they're too sensitive and as I said, I don't care. If I went back in time, I'd post it again.
You don't care you're hurting your own cause?
xCutesyLolitax
Believe me, it doesn't affect me. I was married. I had a woman. But it can affect others. It can push them away from hearing any real advice people have to offer.
(sorry for repeating myself. I didn't see that was posted by someone else)
@xCutesyLolitax
Believe me, it doesn't affect me. I was married. I had a woman. But it can affect others. It can push them away from hearing any real advice people have to offer.
(sorry again, I forgot the "@")
@Bluemax because im not doing it. As xCutesyLolitax said, you're too sensitive.
I don't believe that nice guys finish last. Usually when a guy says girls don't like him cos he's "too nice" there is more to it. Maybe they are too passive, weak, feminine, unattractive, don't really understand women, whatever it is, there is something other than being "nice" that is turning women off. Sure some women out there like to be treated badly but I'm sure most don't.
Sorry but I disagree with you. At this point nothing can convince me otherwise. Nice guys DO finish last. The "nice" you're talking about doesn't sound like a real man. The nice I'm talking about is the captain America nice, someone you can trust and count on. Will these guys always look as handsome as that? Absolutely not, but that's the double standard I'm getting at. Seems to me the girls in talking about dont want niceness at all, they want looks first, and then they want to change the man to be nice. What happens next should come as no surprise.
I have to agree with the Take Owner! Being nice really does turn a lot of women off! I have had experiences very similar to the Take Owner. It's true! There seems to be something very unattractive to women in men being nice! I think it's one of the greatest misunderstandings between the sexes. I think it may be something in a woman's mating attraction instincts.
When an ill-mannered jerk teases a woman with boorish disregard, her instincts see him as strong and attractive. But when a gentleman is very careful to treat a woman with high courtesy and proper respect, a woman's instincts will see him as weak and unattractive. It shouldn't be that way, but it is!
No not true! I'm completely turned off by guys who are jerks or treat me badly! No matter how hot they are. I guess it depends what your definition of nice is anyway. I'm still sure there is more to it than just being nice. Maybe u r nice but lacking in some other way.
There is a difference between a nice guy and a white knight. You're a white knight.
Treat women like you treat your guy friends and this will all be cured.
Exactly. He was a doormat, not a nice guy.
Exactly. There is a difference.
Sounds like you just had a horrible high school experience and you're jealous of the girl chasers. I understand that this website is for opinions, but this take is PURELY an opinion. Sure, there are plenty of problems with nice guys. Every type of guy has problems! Nice guys aren't the ones getting all the crap.
Have you ever thought that, maybe, girls just aren't attracted to you or they see you as a friend and not someone they want to date? Being a "nice guy" doesn't mean girls should date you--especially if you're just being nice because you want something from her.
Im a good guy with some bad boy qualities. Getting girls is all about being in the right place at the right time. Access, know what i mean? Dry spells happen to everyone dude. I also think a lot of womens tactics for finding a man can be pretty damn unrealistic at times. Just some stuff i learned in the military and in college.
Coming from the girl who always finishes last...
I try to go for the nice guys. In fact, I was basically in love with my best friend for a long time. He is a nice guy. I would sit around and hear him complain that no girls liked him, that nice guys finish last, that he never gets anything, the whole nine yards. Meanwhile I'm hoping he'll realize what's right in front of him. But I was so friendzoned that would never happen.
Moral of the story: I do like the nice guy. But it's hard to involve yourself with a nice guy when the one you want wants absolutely nothing to do with you in that way.
Sounds like there's got to be more to this story! In any case, Good-Luck!
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1348115-i-m-tired-of-the-good-guy-bad-guy-shtick-i-m-also-tired-of-the
Made this with people like you in mind buddy.
this "nice guys finish last" bullshit is getting irritating.
im a girl who likes nice guys. they never ask you out thats the problem. dont wait for "signs" that the girl likes you.. just ask them out. some girls dont give hints because theyre not good at flirting.
and about those girls who you are "Friends" with. that's your fault.
you should have asked them out within the first week. they would have said yes/no and that would save time. yet you keep them as friends hoping that something will happen. that's stupid.
its a numbers game. keep asking girls out and someone is bound to say yes.
yet you "nice" guys waste time with some bullshit and bitch and whine about rejection.
please.
I agree , nice guy always too shy to give a complement to girl or to give some hint to show their passion
@veterin...
"I agree , nice guy always too shy to give a complement to girl or to give some hint to show their passion"
no dont give them hints just tell them straight up directly.
Ugh, another "nice guy" article. On the articles page on this site, there are literally 2 articles about "nice guys" posted that are separated by one other article lol
Sooner or later, you "nice guys" are going to learn...
And then another one written by a girl like 5-10 articles down
And then another good one a few articles down from the last that talks about where men and women are going wrong with their natural instincts and behavior. I'd recommend it for you to read:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a8361-cutting-through-the-nice-guy-alpha-male-confidence-bullshit
Agreed, "nice guys" and their problems are taking over.. -.-'
@ShaeNielson, who's the dude in your photo? I want to be just like him
You r right because when i was a nice guy i never had any girlfriend but now i am bad boy every second girl wants to date with me but i never get any real and good hearted partner every girl i got was demanding and thats why i m single now
It sucks doesn't it? I hate the whole system, but I guess Karmas a bitch only to the people who deserve it right?
I must not be a girl then, since I ALWAYS go for nice guys. And it IS your fault that nice guys "finish last". When you constantly chase after the bad girls that don't want a nice guy, but yet never once chase after the nice girls who always want a nice guy that are given no other option to settle for the assholes, because you nice guys wait until it's too fucking late to suck it up and go for us, it IS your fault that you "finished last".
Completely agree
You probably just have really high standards and only go for the hot girls. I'm an average looking girl. I've only ever gone for nice guys and they reject me because they want the hot girl. The last guy I liked was someone who wouldn't be attractive by societies standards but we got a long well. He was one of those guys who do anything for a girl. He found I liked him and he ended the friendship because I wasn't attractive enough and it made him uncomfortable. That's what he told me.