The fullproof way to get a woman's number!

[thealphamaleishere]

First of all, I will qualify myself by stating I did online and in person consulting for MEN on how to approach women, gain confidenece, and how to be more successful in their relationships.

What I am going to share is the 'full proof way' to get a womans number. Now, let me curb expectations a bit... When I say 'full proof' I do not mean 100% of the time. I mean this is the best approach to take when asking for a womans number. I want to also put an emphasis on WOMEN here. This approach doens't apply to GIRLS. Simply won't work because of insecurity, immaturity, and a myriad of other reasons.

The Approach

Okay straight and to the point... You see a woman that you find interesting, attractive, sexy, etc, etc... and you want to ask her for her number. This is exactly what you will do:

ONE (SIMPLEST THING EVER)

Confidently approach them and make your presense known (no sneaking up on someone at the gas pump) Say:

Excuse me

So now you have their attention. Here is where men mess everything up. NO SMALL TALK. None! I don't care if you have the same tattoo... if you are both wearing Toms.. or if you genuinely recognize her. NO SMALL TALK. Next say:

You know what?

Yes, simply ask that question. You know what? Why do you do this you may ask... becuase getting a number is all about positioning yourself for your end goal. Let's say you start talking about something meaningless.. You undoubtedly will bore her and she will interupt and say I need to go. All the while thinking why didn't her just say what he wanted??

Anyways, she will 99.9% of the time answer WHAT? Which is PERFECT that's what we wanted baby! Next say EXACTLY THIS:

We should go on a date sometime

Yep... really just that. Excuse me... You know what... We should go on a date sometime...

Some of you may be skeptic or doubting the success that a person could possibly have with this approach. IT WORKS. Stay with me though...

TWO (COUNTERING OBJECTIONS)

Now you would be surprised how often going just that far into the approach will get you the number. It has happened to me countless times. Although, it's more likely that after asking "we should go on a date sometime..." You will be hit with some sort of objection. BELIEVE ME these are easy to counter. Just take some practice.

Top 4 most common objections you will get:

Ohh yeah?

Why?

But I don't even know you...

Where would you take me?

Okay, so the key now is having all of your objections ready. I will share my most successful counter to the above objections. DELIEVERD WITH CONFIDENCE:

Ohh yeah?
Women said 'ohh yeah' a lot.. That usually means sealed deal so I simply responded YES. Looking straight in the eyes and let them know I was serious.

Why?
Because I'm a great dater. DO NOT COMPLIMENT THEM. THEY GET IT EVERY DAY.

But I don't even know you...
Again easy.. Don't over talk or look beta and explain yourself. Don't ever let the woman make you feel out of place for approaching and being staight to the point. Simply say: That's why WE are going on a date.

Where would you take me?
This one is easy. Make sure you know your surroundings well. DO NOT talk about a restaurant clear accross town. Try and quickly remember a restaurant near by that is nice. Whereever you are meeting her means she probably lives quite close. Girls WILL cancel a date over distance. (Only go to a restaurant)

WHY THIS WORKS (they don't want no scrub)

Women want a man who is straight to the point. Remember the when Noah and Ali were first introduced in 'The Notebook'??? Noah went right for what he wanted. No small talk.. no compliments.. none of that. And women watching loved it. The love a man who doesn't toss bull their way especially when they can see what his end game is. Yes, you will catch some women off guard. Occasionally a feminazi will give you -ish about now asking her name first Lol... but overall this will help you a lot.

CLOSING (key is delivery)

In closing, remember that the key is confidence and your delivery. Have a slight smile and don't break eye contact. Your goal is to practice this over and over... Why?? So you can learn to counter ALL the posible objections. Will women say no. YES. Will this approach work better than anything I hear these douches online talking about WITHOUT A DOUBT!

An exercise to do is try getting just 1 number a day for a week. Then move up to 2 numbers, 3, etc... In no time you will notice how easy this delievery

Please try this out and let me know how this approach is working for you!

Apologize for the spelling and grammar errors.

-ALFIE :)

[Chick180]

Guy - 'You know what?'
Me - 'Umm what?'
Guy - 'We should go on a date'
Me - 'No, we shouldn't.

Lol, now what?

[thealphamaleishere]

Me: Okay cool.

I walk away. You think about it for a week because obvi you fucked up.

[Chick180]

What makes you so awesome?

[thealphamaleishere]

I am a great guy! Many things make me great. I am kind, cultured, articulate, don't have awkward moments, can carry conversations about anything, have a great sense of humor, have traveled the world, I have goals, I am driven, educated, believe in God, etc, etc, etc...

I remember a girl did this once... I said:

Me: "hey you know what?"

Her: No..

and walked right past me. This isn't 100% but if works better than ANY other approach if you want a number and date with a woman. I give two shits about someone who rejects me. Most mens problem is that they are terrified of being said no to. PEOPLE WILL SAY NO. A LOT

[thealphamaleishere]

And it would stay in you mind... I know it does. Women think wtf just happened. He didn't seem like he even cared. Did someone put him up to that... etc, etc...

[Chick180]

You sound great, I won't deny that. But if you walked over to me the way you're saying that would be my response. And I wouldn't even think twice about it.

[thealphamaleishere]

Lol it's not as easy in person to do that... but okay you may be the type that don't respond to that. You would prefer the beta man who looks for some pointless 'in' about commonality like your bangs, or the Tom's you are wearing... Lol some chicks like that bull some women want a man who goes for what he wants and isn't scared about it.

[Chick180]

Don't convince yourself. The kind of guy you just described doesn't even get a response (maybe a smile). I don't like cocky assholes (not saying you are one). Be confident, not cocky. There's a difference.

[thealphamaleishere]

It is all confidence. It wouldn't even work if it was about cocky. It's a fine line but an easy line.

[Chick180]

Whatever you say.

[thealphamaleishere]

No. Whatever you say.

[Chick180]

Even better ;)

[Chris011]

Lol.

[Blue_riBBon]

She's the chick180. You've to made some expert level for this ;)

[thealphamaleishere]

Hey... send her a PM dude..

[JohnBhoy94]

How about you film yourself doing it to a random stranger and come back to us with it. I might try it out if you do.

[thealphamaleishere]

Bro. It works. Don't be so skeptic and try it

[JohnBhoy94]

I repeat: send us a video of you doing it, and I might just try it.

[Entrieton]

@thealphamaleishere So you claim.

[thealphamaleishere]

don't be ridiculous guys. It works. If you are going to claim that "my" approach doesn't work at least provide the alternative that is better...

[shyguy227]

I have an alternitive way
in these easy steps!

1. memorise your own number off by heart
2. in a fredinly casual manner apprach a girl for a reason to use her phone e. g my phone is lost/ I need to call some one but phone is dead or something to that effect
3. if she agrees phone your personal phone for a while then hang up
4. check your call logs then save the number to contacts
5. thank her for using her phone and her giving you her number
6. huzzah you have now got the desired girls number congratulations !

haha all kidding aside, nice and intresting post good work : )

[thealphamaleishere]

Haha. Now that is the fullproof way!

[NoMoreDreams]

Honestly if any guy tried this with me they would not get my number. You didn't even tell guys to ask for he name! It maybe small talk but it matters. If a guy doesn't ask what your name is then he obviously doesn't care about getting to know you, it takes two seconds. Saying "Because I'm a great dater" basically says to me that your a bit full of your self. You don't need to compliment the girl but there is a difference from being confident and being full of yours

[NoMoreDreams]

Yourself*

[thealphamaleishere]

This approach doesn't work on ALL women. However, this is the best approach. Guaranteed one hundred percent.

Claiming that asking a womans name FIRST is important or a deal breaker is comical to me. Truth is, you ALWAYS the name when the number is exchanged anyways. Half the women don't realize you never asked for the name anyways.

I know from experience hun.

[NoMoreDreams]

Lol alright then. Not asking for a name isn't a deal breaker but it just reflects back on you and what kind of guy you could be, especially since no small talk will accrue. Well based off your age and confidence in this method this must have been working for you. So all the power to you in finding something that works for you :) but don't call me hun lol

[thealphamaleishere]

Okay I made a video online with my girlfriend about it and she touched on guys walking up and asking for her name. Here is the thing. It is extremely beta and not attractive to most women. You usually lose right when you say Hey there what's your name. It's also a very typical lame approach.

Another reason to not ask for a name is because you don't position yourself to counter objections. You give the woman too much power to END the convo. I know this from testing it in real life Lol. If you approach a woman and say 'excuse me what's you name.' Or 'excuse me my name is blank what's yours...' sometimes women don't even want to answer at all. You look like a tool sales man Lol.

It's the truth. MEN DO NOT ASK FOR A WOMANS NAME!

[NoMoreDreams]

Alright alright! Calm down a bit lol I guess asking for a name can be a bit lame and over done. Everyone has their own style and preference to being or asking someone out. I will say this, using the term beta makes me take it less serious lol it just sounds like something a frat guy would say (no disrespect to any guys in fraternities) that's just a personal opinion you can disregard it if you wish to do so.

[thealphamaleishere]

People who join frats are not over high school... Beta is actually a sociological term that describes observable characteristics...

[NoMoreDreams]

Ah I see, sorry about that. I have only heard frat guys say that term so assumed it was something they made up with wanting to be alpha dog and such. Thank you for clarifying that for me :)

[Taywallee16]

While I would swoon at a guy's bold approach to want to take me out I would be a little skeptical about his intentions. Women tend to over think and if I thought about it too much I might feel like I was just another conquest and be reluctant to give the guy a fair chance. That's my only problem with it.

[thealphamaleishere]

I believe that is based in paranoia and insecurity. Believe me I have counter objections to women with your exact feeling.

I would ask you... what is the approach that doesn't seem like a conquest?

[Taywallee16]

Paranoia maybe but insecurity no. I don't want to be a pawn in a guy's master plan. If his objective is to get as many numbers as possible then I don't feel like he really approached me because he wanted to get to know me. I mean it seems like the reason you wrote this was to help guys get as many women as possible. Whereas it would have most likely received better by women if you made it seem like this is how you get the girl, not the digits. That's what made it feel as if I'm another trophy you can show off to your friends instead of a women that should be treated with respect.

[thealphamaleishere]

If asking you on a date and making not one iota of a reference to anything sexual isn't respect... well I don't know...

What is funny is you would give some tool the time of day if he approached you with a I want to know about you approach Lol. You would smile and keep moving.

[Taywallee16]

I might give him the time of day but you better believe I would kick him to the curb before he got anything he wanted. If you put yourself out there like a player then don't be mad when women don't want to play your game.

[thealphamaleishere]

Since when is asking for someone number "putting yourself out there as a player"

What you are saying hun doesn't hold up in reality.. women are very receptive to this approach. They prefer it. I wouldn't have made money if they weren't Lol

[thealphamaleishere]

There is no "game" Lol that is the entire point. Straight to what the man wants. A number and a date... Game? Lol wth?

[Taywallee16]

Trying to get any point across to you is utterly useless

[thealphamaleishere]

How so? I think you just don't feel like answering how asking for a woman's number in a direct fashion makes a man a player...

Because it's a bull logic. And it definitely doesn't. A man making small talk doesn't mean he isn't a player. After all, you need to talk to run game.

[Taywallee16]

Trying to get a point across is useless because you are so self righteous that you think to have women wrapped around your finger.

[thealphamaleishere]

It seems you are upset that there is a approach that works on women. You would like to think that doesn't exist?

Lol again how am I self righteous? I never said I have anyone wrapped around my finger. Insecurities shinning through...

[Taywallee16]

So boasting about being able to attain endless girl's numbers isn't being a player? Oh and please tell me how being suspicious a guy who demands my number without asking my name is showing insecurities. I would love to hear your explanation.

[thealphamaleishere]

Listen. You are obviously the type this doesn't work on (at least claiming...)

Asking a womans name is about the dumbest thing you can do.. you are cooked right when you do it. I am not boasting about anything. I am stating facts about me getting numbers. This approach works. It is great for guys with confidence issues. My clients had no problems. It's the women who hear about it that have the biggest gripes Lol

[Taywallee16]

Women have problems with it because instead of telling your "clients" that we should be treated with respect and talked to like a normal human being you make it seem like we are conquests that don't have feelings. We are women. We're not trophies or another notch in your belt. I'm an educated young woman that does not want to be treated like a play thing. Oh and your clients should know that the women that would gladly fall for this usually have some sort of attention issues. Which means they need constant reassuring and honestly aren't the kind of women you would want to go out with. So please stop making it seem like women are dumb bimbo's that need to told what to do.

[thealphamaleishere]

That's is just not true in reality... Women prefer the approach. I don't mess with bimbos or women who lack confidence. And the idea that only insecure women who lack confidence and self worth say yes is totally not true. I have lived it. Meanwhile you are probably watch girls eating ice cream... just stop

[Taywallee16]

See you're a guy that needs to be knocked down a few pegs because you obviously think way too highly of yourself. Honestly if you came up to me and did you're whole "approach" I would think you were egotistical. There's a difference between confidence and bragging about how awesome you think you are.

[thealphamaleishere]

Yeah. God forbid someone thinks highly of themselves. Leave it to you to knock them down a few pegs. What am I bragging about again? Did you read the post? Where is this bragging at?

You have become comical

[Taywallee16]

Yeah I did read the post. And by the way it's foolproof, not fullproof. Your whole post is comical.

[thealphamaleishere]

You are just a biter hater...

[Taywallee16]

No because hating would require me to care and since I don't then there's no possible way I could be a hater.

[thealphamaleishere]

And it's obviously a headline to draw people to actually read the post. Lmao do you write complaints to every publication that does the same exact thing? Grow up lmao

[thealphamaleishere]

You are in the minority. That's the truth. Most women want MEN. I assume you are against the idea of gender roles too? Just trying to peg you.

I would also assume your reaction to Noah in the Notebook was "Omgee what a cocky cunt.. JUST DANCE... Ummmm how about you try to learn about her interests and stuff first. Can't he see she is with other people. What a cocky arse!"

Although, I doubt that was your reaction. Because you are full of it.

[Taywallee16]

Actually my reaction to Noah was "wow, he really went all out to ask her out. What a man." Because you see he wasn't also doing to same thing to 5 other women. And hello, this is 2015. Gender roles are a thing of the past and you sound like you're stuck in a time before the women's rights movement.

[thealphamaleishere]

So your cool with the artsy dude who works at the local coffee shop making 10.00/hr... Right... Lmao GIRLS.

[thealphamaleishere]

Another example is 'Crazy Stupid Love' with the same actor. When he meets Emma stone he approaches like a man. No lame questions, no bullshit, this is what I want and I am telling you. You secretly sit in your seat going where are those guys. But then come online and talk shit.

[Taywallee16]

This is what I meant by useless. Even though you know you're wrong you still try to defend your ridiculous argument by bringing up unrelated points. Seriously just stop.

[thealphamaleishere]

Nice trolling..

[Izzex3]

Ehhh.
I can see that working for some people, but looks do play a role.
Someone did that to me and I gave him my number, but didn't want to. In my head I said no, and to tell him no but for some reason I spilled my number and as soon as we parted I was like "shit."
Told him I wasn't interested in him later that night.
He caught me off guard and in a good sweet mood though.
If your goal is just getting numbers then I could see how this may work.
I'd much rather actually have a conversation with someone first. If I had a great conversation with someone I'd definitely give them my number and would feel comfortable hanging out with them again.

[thealphamaleishere]

Conversation Lol that is for the date kido

[Izzex3]

I was just saying how I'd feel.
I'm not going to go on a date with someone who I've never even had "small talk" with.
Like I said.. If just getting numbers is someone's goal then I can see it working sometimes (depending on how attracted the girl is to you). But if you actually want her to reply afterwards and set up the date.. I doubt it.

[thealphamaleishere]

It works more of the time. I have tested both ways. I have had clients test both ways. Sure, I believe you feel that way. Again, a minority of women are not into it.

It's sad though. The goal post has been pushed to the point of 'online dating' as a percieved method for women to do better vetting of men. None of you stop to realize you are talking to an online personality lmao. I definitely belong in past generations.

[Izzex3]

Lol, alright.

[Anonymous]

The best way to get a girl is approaching people in your immediate vicinity, not complete strangers. Most females don't trust strangers, because of creepy past experiences with different guys. This approach would only work if I was already familiar with the guy or maybe some of my friends new him, or a co-worker, but not a complete stranger.

Avoid approaches such as the street harassment video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A

Try to match his confidence, charisma, hygiene, & the way he handled rejection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLZqsx9wua8

Advice from other men: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php

[guy532]

Damn, that just plain sucks and is absolutely horrible. I can't believe girls have to go through that crap on a daily basis. No wonder some have such thick walls. Seriously, that's absolutely tragic to be harassed in that manner. Why are there so many dbag guys out there. I thought I knew how bad it could be for women, but this is wayyyyyy worse than I exepected. Sorry to all the girls that have to go through that on a daily basis.

[Opinion Owner]

Aziz Ansari gives the best examples, he gets it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LxzkMsYBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHVCvV6vE4

Buried Alive is Hilarious, but skipped to 56:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQK5Un3r2e4

[thealphamaleishere]

This video with the chick walking is a horrible example to support your strawman... She was instructed to keep walking and see how many people holllaaa at her. This isn't a random chick just going about her day by day...

Furthermore, what you claimed about the complete stranger approach not working is total bullshit and doesn't hold true in REALITY. I have used it myself for years and my clients as well. It IS the best approach.

The mangina comment too LMAO

[Opinion Owner]

That's real smart to disregard a females opinion on how to pick up chicks when she gives you clear examples of what would & would not work for her. You must be a genius! What's even more pathetic is dragging your "clients" into this as if they are all approaching the same type/age/education level of women, you can't lump us all together.

But like I said before your approach wouldn't work for me unless the guy was someone I knew, not a stranger.

[thealphamaleishere]

The insinuation that a woman in different socioeconomic status will have a different reaction is bullshit as well.

You opinion means shit because YOU are the exception to the rule. PERIOD. Let's see your studies... Your field work? How many women have you asked out like this with my approach?

Oh that's right, NONE.

"dragging my clients in..."

This is called evidence jackass.

Oh and believe me, I wouldn't doubt that you are the exception for a second. You seem like the typical feminist get in her own way type.

By the way, how is the single life treating you?

[Opinion Owner]

Oh you make me giggle! Did I hurt your feelings because I called bullshit to your childish tactics to approaching women? What the hell do I need field work for, I'm a women genius!!! LOL!!!
You should be happy I was so kind to give you advice on what works & what doesn't.

Really, a Feminist comment, how original! At first I didn't peg you as one of those guys who get intimidated by educated women, but I guess there really isn't any hope for you. Change your name from alpha to omega. Alpha's don't have to scheme & manipulate to get women. They're smarter than that, they adapt & adhere to advice given instead of immaturely shunning it.

Seems you take a negative stance to everyone male or female who disagreed with your take. Sad...

[thealphamaleishere]

Did you read my take? You obviously didn't.. That's exactly what BETAS do. They compliment on shoes and bring up similarities (WHICH IS MANIPULATION) to try to get an IN with the woman.

I TEACH MEN TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE END GAME AND WHAT THEY WANT.

You claiming this doesn't work is comical. Sure I am making up all of the success of this approach. Even on this post itself more people have the opposite opinion of you. Furthermore, there are people inboxing me on this GAG site for tips.

Feminists always want a reaction. Always grandstanding. "Did I hit a nerve..."

No, you are just a dumb bitch that's impossible to reason with.

[Opinion Owner]

LMFAO! Reason with? In which comment did you ever reason with anything I posted? All I see is name calling & accusations. Real bitch made reactions nothing Alpha about it!

I get random messages for advice in my inbox too, so don't get an ego boost about it, it's a site for opinions, random messaging is bound to happen.

After this hissy fit I just witnessed from you, any guy who takes your advice is an idiot. You know nothing of communicating with women or how to accept constructive criticism.

[thealphamaleishere]

**messages to my inbox for advice on the topic****

Again, #evidence

I think you are fucking possibly crazy.

Hey guys look! It's one of those GIRLS who need a "REAL MAN TO "HANDLE" HER!"

Good luck out there with you abrasive cunt like behavior. Really good luck!

[Opinion Owner]

I assume by, "REAL MAN TO "HANDLE" HER!" you are referring to this video:
www.facebook.com/video.php

This video is targeting the hoodrat baby mamas who jump fly with anyone & will physically fight a man without any thought. Example: The chick who was hit in the bus video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEJiUtYUdRo or the chick slapped on the train https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDAT9zT78dc

I do not identify with this nonsense. These chicks are not the definition of a Strong Woman, they are instead the Irrational, Combative & Uneducated Female. Strength is Strength. It's not gender specific, nor the same as being aggressive or combative.

It's ok, that once again you've been #OWNED on your own Take (see 17yr old female comment below). Don't take it so personal, it's just the internet ;-)

[Phoenix98]

While this is sure to increase your chances nothing is a 100% or even 90%, nothing is foolproof. Some women this will work on and some it won't nor is this the only way to do it.

This also isn't for everyone and is tailored to help a specific type of person or rather a person who acts a certain way.

There are some points I agree with though, but overall I feel you should experiment with different approaches and use the one that you feel most comfortable with and that works best for you.

[thealphamaleishere]

Yeah that title is just an attention grabber.

I kinda agree that people should try what works best for them. I think a spin off of this approach or different variations of this approach is what is necessary for success.

[Phoenix98]

I'm sure in some areas it is.

[Freddius]

Thanks for revealing dating do's and don'ts arcana. No, really. No. This is an average pickup line that works on some women, not all. Of course confidence and transparency is key in most approaches, but as all ready stated by another user, in most cases, a woman has to be attracted to or interested in the guy.

The perfect pickup strategy will not entirely compensate for a guys outwardly shortcomings. Improve them? somewhat... perhaps.

[PiuBelloAmante]

WOW! great take !
i think a lot of the time us bro's complicate things and make it rocket science
People are simple!

too bad this only works for women =(
most of the girls i know probably would feel this approach as too strong of a come on!

I am still gonna try this lol! i will let you know how it goes!

[thealphamaleishere]

Kill it!

[MaskedSanity]

What a load of horse shit.

If you try to pull this stunt on me, I'd smell "dating expert" tactics from a mile away and tell you to fuck off.

[thealphamaleishere]

You would tell someone to fuck off who said... "you know what" "We should go on a date."

You have some issues. By the way, I smell feminazi.

[MaskedSanity]

If someone, a complete stranger, randomly asked me to go out with them, I would immediately decline.

[thealphamaleishere]

That's more believable. Makes sense to only get to know people that you already know... wait... twilight zone statement right there lol

[GoodDogNigel]

Unless he was hot.

[thealphamaleishere]

#single

[MaskedSanity]

@GoodDogNigel

Of course, honey, whatever helps you fuel your bitterness. <3

[thealphamaleishere]

Everyone is bitter... Lmao yeah...

[abundantlyrich]

Is that all it's about? How about a guide to having an interesting convo? Men at suck at social skills.

[thealphamaleishere]

Conversation is for the date genius. Furhtermore, being straight forward on approach do not mean a person is great with conversation.

By the way you fall into the minority who doesn't like this approach. I will spare you the personal characteristics of the women who don't like my approach...

[abundantlyrich]

Getting the no means you want to get laid.

[thealphamaleishere]

No. GETTING A DATE GUARANTEES THE NUMBER. Durrr

[KBob93]

Rather gutsy. Some women don't like guys that come off as too "dominant." I'd probably swoon a little bit though.

[Anonymous]

I did like parts of this, but it will only work if she is attracted to the guy.

[kheserthorpe]

That's true of every approach technique imaginable.

[thealphamaleishere]

Truth is that you can be less attractive with my approach and still have success. This shit works. I got 9 numbers in one day. ON A WORK DAY. Not at the club with drunk sleezers. At the store... 2 gas stations... trader joes... It was crazy.

I am no brad pitt

[Opinion Owner]

Uea, the only difference is that some have a higher success rate. If a guy that was not attractive at all to me came up to me with these lines, I would literally think he was delusional and it would actually work against him. If he presents himself in an interesting yet friendly manner, I would at least give him the time of day. And if we became friends first, I might even develop feelings for him. So, there are approaches that work better. I've been attracted to guys that weren't good-looking because I liked them personality wise.

[Opinion Owner]

Yea* lol

[Opinion Owner]

@asker, you're definitely above average if that was you in your profile picture before. Oh and the part about being a great dater. You really shouldn't say that cause it sounds weird and doesn't really make sense, but I liked the rest.

[thealphamaleishere]

So you are claiming the:

"hi I am Craig... what's your name miss.." approach would work on you...

"Or omg what kind of tattoo is that? I love Koi fish too..."

Women hate that and see through it. Not being direct is at a subconscious level beta and not manly. It's a turn off. You friend zone yourself instantly with the "friendly approach"

[Opinion Owner]

No, neither of those approaches would interest me regardless of whether the guy was attractive or not. The best thing to do is make it seem like the meeting was accidental. And I'm not saying that this apporach was bad, I'm just saying that some things should be changed because it seems like the guy is too full of himself, which would result in me rolling my eyes. And I know because cocky guys have hit on me before. I'm saying that instead of saying, "I'm a great dater" you should say somethong like, "because it's going to be the best time of your life."

[thealphamaleishere]

Yeah I am above average.. but women are not looking for above average these days lol... Now if I was 6'3" instead of 5'10.. Oh boy how the game would change lol

[thealphamaleishere]

But I am a great dater. Women always asked:

"Oh yeah... what makes you so great?" So i'd tell em

"Sounds like you go on a lot of dates..." I am young and single... I go on my fair share like anyone else...

"Sounds cocky..." No, I am confident. Etc.. makes me a great dater.

A small percentage would get but hurt over the great dater statement. And I said that A LOT.

[Opinion Owner]

Actually, someone did a sort of survey here and it said that, on average, girls like a guy that is 5'11" so you're not too far off. I personally think the best height would be like 6'1" or 6'2".

[thealphamaleishere]

My point is this. This is an accidental meeting to begin with. You are on one gas station pump and I am on the other. You are too cute and stylish for me to let you drive off with out making an approach. You probably are busy and have things to do. I am not going to waste you time with pleasentries (that I give on the date) I am getting that damn number. Lol

[thealphamaleishere]

Yeah I am fine with my height.

[Opinion Owner]

It just seems to me like you wouldn't be taking me seriously if you said that. Like I'm just another one of many more to come and go, but I guess that's just me then.

[Opinion Owner]

No, by accidental I mean you might need something while at this gas station and you ask her and then go from there. That would be the ideal, but it is hard to make that happen. I'm just saying that if a guy is not above average and the girl is, then he might as well not even try. If the girl is in the same level, then yeah it will most likely work.

[thealphamaleishere]

I understand women feeling like that. The truth of the matter is a man taking his time to ask you on a date could be playing you much worse.

At least you know what my goal is. To date you. Opposed to a guy saying "come out tonight" that basically mean I hope she drinks one too many and ends up at my place...

[Opinion Owner]

"Come out tonight" is probably an even worse thing to say. lol It's true they definitely could be, but you don't know people's inentions apart from how they come on to you, at first. So, people will go with what they see at face value initally.

[thealphamaleishere]

Right I agree saying that is worse. Although, if you speak to todays generation of young women they say they are more comfortable hanging in groups of friends FIRST. Lol I just laugh because a guy will DATE a girl they like first... He will invite a girl to chill that he wants to bang. Every guy knows this..

[Opinion Owner]

Yea, but what can you do? Girls love when the relationship starts off more comfortably at first. It makes them feel like you want them as a friend as well, instead of just someone to have sex with. I didn't know that guys felt that way though, interesting.

[thealphamaleishere]

A date is formal.. It's one on one. Players don't want that. They feel exposed. The girl can easily discern what they are all about. Those group situations enable them to mask their true intentions. Why women like dates and younger girls are hesitant.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, I've never been in that situation, but it's still good to know for future reference. And it does make sense.

[kheserthorpe]

Nothing's foolproof, but this is a good straight-ahead approach that guys can try. It's not the only approach, but for people where direct is most comfortable it's a good framework for doing so.

[thealphamaleishere]

I honestly think it should be the only approach. Everything else entails small talk. Which women hate and it makes it impossible to counter objections when you talk too much. They have endless ways to object to you.

[kheserthorpe]

I think even if you don't go immediately direct, when you do actually escalate to asking out, it's a good model.

Some guys prefer to interact generally with everyone, escalate where there's reciprocal interest, then flirt, then ask out. which is fine - you will get 'yes', but you're doing some pre-filtering for women who are more actively interested. Either style works as long as you do enough of it.

[thealphamaleishere]

I understand that approach.

It's risky to me though... that vetting process could cost you the date. But I get that.

[miserybusiness]

LMAO I highly suggest people don't follow this unless you want to get smacked in the face with a purse, hand or whatever else she's holding.

[thealphamaleishere]

Yes people women react violently when a guy takes time out of his day to ask them on a date... Right

[miserybusiness]

The way you're suggesting will lead to disaster for the majority. Trust me.

Better to talk her up normally and end with something like, "I don't mean to pry but I was wondering if you'd be interested in grabbing a coffee sometime." Casual, cute, considerate.

[thealphamaleishere]

Hahah.. Okay buddy.

[Words_and_Wisdom]

You're paying too close to the 'meta' presented here, not the actual scenario. If you would go on a violent fit when a guy blatantly asks you on a date, then you have some serious mental problems.

[Chick180]

Why would anyone smack a guy in the face for this? How weird.

[miserybusiness]

You're all taking this too seriously. I didn't mean it literally.

[thealphamaleishere]

What did you mean...

[miserybusiness]

It's too late. The fun's been ruined. I give up with all of you. I'm going to stick with my possy of crude, rude finger flickers.

[singlebee]

Well then in, that case I will never approach you! I don't wanna get smacked in my face!😐

[guy532]

I'm trying this out right now on a dating site (oasisactive). I'm going to be mad at you if this doesn't work, she's super cute. Will post results.

[thealphamaleishere]

This is an in person approach my man...

[guy532]

Doesn't matter. On that site you have to both "like" each in order to start talking with each other meaning she's already interested. She has not agreed to a date yet, but we've already talked out the logistics of it and she's still talking to me/seems more interested than most girls that I've talked with in the past. I think it was a great first message to set me up for success (if I don't get a date, it will be my own fault) and will definitely be using it in the future. Thank you!

[thealphamaleishere]

Good deal. Get it

[guy532]

She's a flake *sigh*. We had a great convo and then she just stopped responding. I hate it when my hopes are lifted then just crushed.

[thealphamaleishere]

Get em in person man. Let it roll right off and off to the next. That's just the way it is.

[BuchitaBuchys]

Haha will this work for women asking men out too? I'd like to not be rejected anymore.

[thealphamaleishere]

Hah probably not. This is a strong approach. A lot of men are easily intimidated by women who are even more alpha than they are Lol.

I wouldn't mind though

[PiuBelloAmante]

You know what?

[thealphamaleishere]

hahaha

[BuchitaBuchys]

Dammit! Lol ok. I guess I'll have to keep trying to figure men out :/

@PiuBelloAmante CHICKEN BUTT!

[PiuBelloAmante]

@Takeowner! help me out! lol

@BuchitaBuchys thats funny because i know a great Trinididian resteraunt that maeks a killer fried chicken butt. Do you want go and try it out with me?

[BuchitaBuchys]

@PiuBelloAmante I'm vegetarian :c

[PiuBelloAmante]

cool! because they also cook a great sweet potato and corn chowder
let me get your number so we can meet up =)

[BuchitaBuchys]

@PiuBelloAmante I'm allergic to sweet potatoes and corn.

[PiuBelloAmante]

no problem, i heard they have a fine arugula and fig salad that is to DIE FOR!

[BuchitaBuchys]

@PiuBelloAmante I don't eat arugula or figs :/

[PiuBelloAmante]

ok, do you want to grab a glass of water some time?

[BuchitaBuchys]

@PiuBelloAmante lmao your perseverance! :P

[thealphamaleishere]

She is friend zoning you!

[PiuBelloAmante]

@BuchitaBuchys i won't stop till we can have a date ;) lol
@TakeOwner nah bro not yet!!!

[thealphamaleishere]

atta boy!

[Words_and_Wisdom]

@BuchitaBuchys It would work for me. I love a woman who can approach me. Even if it may come off as 'strong.'

[BuchitaBuchys]

@PiuBelloAmante Lol We can have a Gag date :)

@Words_and_Wisdom lol well you don't seem like a shy guy though I typically go after shy ones.

[PiuBelloAmante]

@BuchitaBuchys cool...
inside *OMG THAT'S A YES!!!*
so what you wanna do? i think drinking water is a bit dull =P

[Words_and_Wisdom]

@BuchitaBuchys Oh I am shy though in person. That's why I love a woman who can approach... makes it infinitely easier for me since I don't have to :P

[BuchitaBuchys]

@PiuBelloAmante Lol Sip tea and judge everyone like Kermit the Frog

@Words_and_Wisdom hmmmm. Well it hasn't worked in real life for me with shy guys.

[PiuBelloAmante]

sounds like a plan!!!

[singlebee]

@BuchitaBuchys - you approach men yourself? That's great... Well I am a little shy type so it will work on me LOL LOL 😆

[BuchitaBuchys]

@singlebee yea. But it never works out. :/

[Jrenpot]

Another way to get her number just ask to borrow her phone and call yourself it will be there when you check your phone next time.

[thealphamaleishere]

Hah another person said that. Definitely a great way to get a number. Horrible way to get a date... Lol

[Jrenpot]

Oh I didn't see that!

[kheserthorpe]

That's actually creepy.

[Jrenpot]

it was a Joke!

[I_M_LEGEND]

what i do is, i watch simple pickup before a big party since taht gives me in a playful creative comfortable mood to natrually apporach girls and be myself.

[thealphamaleishere]

Stop doing that brotha. Not a good idea at all. Nothing is easy in life. Took me months to master this shit.

[I_M_LEGEND]

i didn't read the article to be honest. i m pretty good with women. pretty good looking ones too. ill check it out see if i can get something out of it

[I_M_LEGEND]

hey this is actually good stuff man! i will practicce. i get some parts but it gets into detail and step by step i love it

[Anonymous]

So this method would work for alpha guys but not beta guys. Even if a beta came out as alpha in this approach and got a date, the girl would realize on the date that the guy isn't alpha, and would probably be out off. You can only act for so long.

[thealphamaleishere]

May be true... but anyone can change. You are not born an Alpha nor Beta... It's learned behavior.

[syrick]

well im sure humans are like dogs. i mean dogs as puppies if they tend to go to the water bowl first food first and push others around and be more odminent as a pupy they will be dominant as a adult.

[James0]

You win some and lose some but this does work, now if I can only get some of my guys
friend to ask her out