Does anyone else agree dating "coaches" are scam artists?

Question

They have all this great "advice" and tell you about the social "dynamics" of how people interact with each other. It looks good on paper but it's all a hoax. They just want to scam you for money. There is no "game" or "skill" in getting a girlfriend/boyfriend, or getting laid for that matter. It's pretty much luck: You're either rich and good looking or ugly and broke. It's as simple as that. It hurts both genders (the money part mainly hurts men.) Why does anyone trust these people?

Yes, dating coaches are scam artists

No, dating coaches are legit

It depends on the dating coach

Dating coaches aren't scam artists but they're useless.

They're legit for men; not legit for women

They're legit for women; not for men

Other/Unsure (Explain)

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Answer 1

Intraluminal | 2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Guru

I think that the problem is this: the ability to date well, is mostly due to "emotional intelligence" or "social intelligence" or whatever you want to call it, that enables some people to read others and adjust their behavior "in real time." In other words, you me someone, decide you're interested, approach them, and then while interacting with them you quickly "get" whether they're interested, what they dislike, what interests them, and you successful "go" with that. Probably nothing can change that innate ability.

However, part of dating is EXPERIENCE. A good dating coach can help you develop whatever ability you have to read others, and help you come up with strategies to act and dress appropriately. To that extent, a dating coach can help.

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Asker

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But women are superficial and don't care about "social" or "emotional" intelligence.
Intraluminal

+1 y
On the contrary, women care about social ability very much. What do you think the "cool" guy has? Social smarts. The thug that you think is an idiot is smart about what women like.
Asker

+1 y
No, the "cool" guy has a stack of cash, regardless of his social status.

I don't know why men in your age group have this delusional mindset among women. You grew up in a different generation than I have. You can't speak for MODERN DAY women in their 20's.
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Intraluminal

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Tell me more about what you think modern women value. Do you think all they value is money? Maybe you're right about modern women, although judging by the posts of GAG - I'm not.

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Asker

But women are superficial and don't care about "social" or "emotional" intelligence.

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Intraluminal

On the contrary, women care about social ability very much. What do you think the "cool" guy has? Social smarts. The thug that you think is an idiot is smart about what women like.

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Asker

No, the "cool" guy has a stack of cash, regardless of his social status.

I don't know why men in your age group have this delusional mindset among women. You grew up in a different generation than I have. You can't speak for MODERN DAY women in their 20's.

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Intraluminal

Tell me more about what you think modern women value. Do you think all they value is money? Maybe you're right about modern women, although judging by the posts of GAG - I'm not.

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James0 | 309 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Yoda

Because some men are desperate for help, if you are not rich, good looking, or even lucky what can you do :o

But seriously, they are trying to teach the exact same thing to every guy, one size does not fit all

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+1 y
"But seriously, they are trying to teach the exact same thing to every guy, one size does not fit all"

BINGO! You hit it on the nose
James0

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The truly sad part is that they will realize it... generation after generation of men

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Asker

"But seriously, they are trying to teach the exact same thing to every guy, one size does not fit all"

BINGO! You hit it on the nose

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James0

The truly sad part is that they will realize it... generation after generation of men

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TheDevilInside | 394 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Guru

I pick D. Not all of them are necessarily scam artists, but the title "dating coach" is so ridiculously stupid. Is there a degree to dating? Is there a dating training to get you qualified to be a coach? *facepalm* they're just like those self-proclaimed messiahs.

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Asker

+1 y
Well put. You make great points.

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Asker

Well put. You make great points.

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Anonymous

Not at all. Advice is what it is, advice. It's not meant for everyone.

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Asker

+1 y
But their advice assumes that every single girl is the same.
Opinion Owner

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Their advice is what they think is best. Use your judgement...
Asker

+1 y
No, they give advice such as "women like this/women don't like this", which assumes every girl is the same.
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Opinion Owner

+1 y
But do you understand that you're a human being with a mind of your own? You can form judgments based on what works or doesn't work for you? Just because their advice doesn't pertain to your situation, it doesn't mean it doesn't apply to other people.

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Asker

But their advice assumes that every single girl is the same.

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Opinion Owner

Their advice is what they think is best. Use your judgement...

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Asker

No, they give advice such as "women like this/women don't like this", which assumes every girl is the same.

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Opinion Owner

But do you understand that you're a human being with a mind of your own? You can form judgments based on what works or doesn't work for you? Just because their advice doesn't pertain to your situation, it doesn't mean it doesn't apply to other people.

Answer 16

Octavius

Guru

It's desperate peoples fault for allowing themselves to be strung along.

Instead of paying for the service I'll tell you what they actually do. They constantly just ask women out every day until they get a yes. They get rejected 40 times in a single day but they got like 4 yeses as well on that day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYBET6rmFo

this is supposed to be a joke but it actually is what most of those "dating coaches" advice comes down to.

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Anonymous

You could say this about any type of coach though. For example swimming is a skill which only you can learn. People can give you techniques and strategies but ultimately, it comes down to your efforts. It’s the same with job interview coaching or relationship coaching. These are all things which involve people and you won’t have complete control over what others think or feel but you can change how you behave around others and how you think about yourself. I think the advantage of a coach is that they can help you see what your issues are and tailor advice to you using their experience. Having said that, I’m sure there are some bad coaches out there as with any type of coaching.

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R3d_Anonymous

Yoda

It depends on the dating coach. Some, like Jad T Jones and Stephen Erdman are very genuine and free of manipulation.

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R3d_Anonymous

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On YouTube.
Asker

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But girls are superficial. "skills" don't exist in dating.

Answer 19

R3d_Anonymous

On YouTube.

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Asker

But girls are superficial. "skills" don't exist in dating.

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Words_and_Wisdom | 1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Guru

Depends on the coach obviously. Frankly RSD is a fantastic source.

Honestly, social skills should be taught in school, but because that isn't the case these kinds of people are needed.

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Koldhearted

Yoda

i would need to see an ugly dating coach/PUA in action

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Anonymous

If anyone can get the message through to someone that life is short, you get one chance so you might as well love yourself and go for it then they are a good dating coach. After all that it is dressing better and maybe gaining some manners and anyone with fashion sense and manners can pull that off.

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Answer 24

Accipiter

Xper 7

Not all of them.

Mostly just the ones who say things like "This will work on any girl," or "this will get you laid guarenteed."

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allahu_snackbar | 780 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Yoda

Yeah, it's all bullshit.

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Prof_Don | 3.7K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Master

Some guys and gals need help with the basics!

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Answer 27

Nathand

Explorer

maybe dating should be an Olympic game

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mexborough

Xper 5

yes, they are.

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