... But you were the one who asked him out. Why would HE pay? There is nothing sexist about what he did and there is nothing wrong with paying for the guy. I don't understand what's your issue. I mean, that's how equality is supposed to be like.
Don't kid yourself. You don't get to "give him a second chance". YOU failed his test,. He's blocked you and he's not offering you a second chance. Try not to be such a whore next time.
What you are calling "chivalry" is a sexist idea. You are not entitled to his money because you have a vagina. I agree with him. You asked him out so he's your guest. You should always pay for your guest.
Lmao you're asking the wrong crowd with this question. Everyone especially guys will say "if you asked him out you should pay"... your cute date seems to have that mentality.
Where did we go wrong huh?
Dump his ass. A real gentleman will pay no matter who asked out who and if you both like each other enough to last then you can sometimes pay or split the bill.
To whoever disagrees with me fuck off... because idc about your opinion either way.
I know many guys will downvote you for this but I absolutely agree. If he can't be bothered to pay on a date let alone a first date he deserves to be dumped.
@myusernamerocks lol thanks but I honestly do not care. Just voicing my honest opinion. Some men can handle and little boys can't. In Russia you'd be laughed at if they heard a guy did not pay for a date. It's embarrassing.
Yeah, Russia is pretty conservative in terms of gender roles! You can't really compare it to western nations which I assume most people here are likely from. I had a Russian girlfriend once and she would constantly cook for me, do my laundry and all of that stuff. I didn't even ask or expect her to, she just insisted on doing it. I never experienced that with a Western woman hahah.
the real pussy slave mangina with no self respect you mean. why? because you have a vagina? he barely knows the girl. just met her. he owes her nothing. she owes him nothing.
" Everyone especially guys" No, that is a generational thing. Older guys would never think a girl should pay. And as it turns out, there are some outstanding younger guys who feel the same way, just not so many.
Seriously look up the definition of whore and logically infer to the slightest degree. If he has to pay every time it means he has to pay to date you, and if it takes that for you to have sex with him, he is paying to have sex with you, you are a prostitute! by any measure that is correct, this isn't an opinion, it fact by correct semantics.
"I'm beginning to think he's either very cheap or just plain misogynistic. Should I try talking to him again and give him a second chance or move on?"
Actually, you're cheap and you're very clearly a misandrist. Who the fuck asks someone out on a date and then doesn't pay?
You should beg him for a second chance since he's the one who blocked you. Sorry but you're in the wrong no matter how you look at it. Maybe at the least you can learn from this and become a more mature person.
You invited him for date. It doesn't mean he should behave like an a$$hole. In the worst case he should offer split your bill. I'm old school and I'm willing to pay for both of us regardless who invited who. Give him second chance? You must be joking. This guy is obviously d1ckhead, what do you f*cking expect? Run against the wall and bump your head into the wall. Maybe in your head will lighten up.
What the hell are you even thinking of while writing this? 'Give him another chance'? Even after your know that he is an UNCHIVALROUS man!!! A MISOGYNIST. Ik, it's not wrong if the girls pay but it's not very advisable. . He's a dumb. I hope you're not. So why even put up the question? You know that you shouldn't be talking to him!!! Use some sense honey!
They will deny it, If he has to pay every time it means he has to pay to date you, and if it takes that for you to have sex with him, he is paying to have sex with you, you are a prostitute! by any measure that is correct, this isn't an opinion, its fact by correct semantics.
@amphet11 I never said, that it is wrong. I am just clarifying, she said, "wtf happened to chivalry". Didn't she? She did. So if she herself thinks that it wasn't very advisable, remember, she is the one who has that notion. So... in that way how is anyone of us supposed to change that p. o. v? You can't change somebody's thought process?
I think for first dates it's best to go dutch, with as a close second to have the one who asked the other person out to pay. It's a bit old fashioned to imply gender roles. For repetitive dates, I'd rather switch it around to a point where it's about equal, but no need to count exactly.
I think that whoever does the asking out should pay but that's just me. I actually prefer to go dutch until there is a solidified relationship status but if he's the chivalrous type that insists on paying, I'm not going to complain as long as he lets me treat him once and a while too. Then again, I don't think I have ever asked a guy out before lol.
Personally if a guy asked me out but then expected me to foot the bill, I wouldn't date him again.
Didn't get block you? And I see what you're saying but at the same time what makes you different from him? You asked him on a date but expect him to pay? Like I say I get it cause he's a guy but again what makes you any different from him? Why can't a woman pay for the first date?
I guess you should have split the bill... oh wait, you asked him? Well if he had asked you, you would normally expect him to pay, so why are you surprised if he expected you to pay, considering the fact you invited him for a dinner? But the guy blocked you, so he is apparently not a good person, he is probably spoiled by his parents.
It's over love!. . Like you said he is sexy, he is cute, he is rich,. . He has no money problem, .. He Can pretty much land any girl he wants so why would he care if one girl stops liking him he got a bunch of others in same slot,. . And now if you chase him he is gonna treat you like shit,.. And that's wrong don't chase him!. . He blocked you don't even contact him,. Best move will be to move on!. . Find another gentleman like your ex! And I mean not your ex!. . Someone like your Ex
I think the way he handled things was a little rude but he did have a point. Usually the guy pays on the first date because usually he asks for the first date. You sort of broke the dating etiquette. I think the guy should pay for the first date but the woman should offer to pay at least the tip. After the second or third date I believe things should be split equally although if a guy wants to spoil me I will not turn him down.
I don't know if you've gotten the memo but dating etiquette changed in recent decades. It's completely okay for women to ask guys out first and pay for the date. And no guy "should" pay for the first date or any other date for that matter.
@hahanoway Let's see... I pull up to our first date in a $90,000 Jaguar and my date pulls up luckily if she can get her car started at all. But she is sweet, pretty, smart, funny, and ambitious to do great things in her life. Oh, then on our second or third date, maybe I tell her to meet me at the airport in front of my $250,000 airplane so we can go for a couple of $100 hamburgers.
The most expensive first date I've had cost $5,200 by the time the night was over (and it was a great night). I don't even notice a few hundred dollars here and there for a date. There is NO WAY I would let my date pay. The most any has ever been out of pocket is 50c (because I didn't have any coins and there were only parking meters, but she got a great laugh out of it).
Seems like you're content with being used as a sugar daddy. $5,200 on a first date? lol Even if I was a billionaire I'd never spend that much on a first date. It'd just attract gold diggers en masse, I'd much rather find a girl who loves me for me. But hey, whatever floats your boat, I'm not here to judge lol.
@hahanoway See, there is an evolutionary aspect to homo sapiens that for tens of thousands of years, young, pretty, ambitious women have been attracted to wealthy older men, however wealth was measured; and visa versa.
It is part of human nature.
I don't usually spend thousands of dollars for a date until we have been sleeping together for some time (and it involves international travel for a long weekend).
The number one reason couples divorce is over money, because for there to be a happy marriage, the husband has to be able to make money faster than the wife can spend it.
You are just dating prostitutes my man, if you paying for things is a prerequisite to them dating you, they are by definition whores. Your relationships are just prostitution really.
@mostwomenshouldstfu ""I did". Doing what?" I started a technology company. It is not hard to do, just be extremely smart, very hardworking, and figure out what people are willing to pay a lot of money for (or a lot of people will pay a little money for).
Uh huh. Perfectly logical for a businessman to keep his "technology" a secret from the people he's trying to sell to. How can they become customers they don't know what ta fuq you're selling?
Are you sure you are confident in how "easy" starting up a business is?
@mostwomenshouldstfu Yes, it is easy to start a business.
The clue I had was when I was a fresh engineer working for big giant company, is that I noticed there were people who were not nearly as smart as I was who were making a whole lot more money than I was. It isn't hard. It only takes a plan.
Stop being so entitled and sexist, it's disgusting.
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Well look at the hypocrisy in the girls answers. Whenever a guy asks why they should pay girls will back behind the 'whoever asks pays' line but here the asker clearly states she's the one who asked him and he let her pay. And now those same girls are saying he should still pay? Wtf is up with the hypocritical girls on this website?
Whoever asks pays it should be that way for BOTH sexes.
i've never heard of this rule before, but it seems like something pretty small to fight over, maybe try talking, maybe, i don't really know how it'd turn out, but it's probably a damn site better than what you've ended up with, either that, or just let him go, i mean, you hardly know the guy anyway.
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... But you were the one who asked him out. Why would HE pay? There is nothing sexist about what he did and there is nothing wrong with paying for the guy. I don't understand what's your issue. I mean, that's how equality is supposed to be like.
LOL
Don't kid yourself. You don't get to "give him a second chance". YOU failed his test,. He's blocked you and he's not offering you a second chance. Try not to be such a whore next time.
What you are calling "chivalry" is a sexist idea. You are not entitled to his money because you have a vagina. I agree with him. You asked him out so he's your guest. You should always pay for your guest.
Yes, yes, yes and yes.
Haha. Glad you agree.
Lmao you're asking the wrong crowd with this question. Everyone especially guys will say "if you asked him out you should pay"... your cute date seems to have that mentality.
Where did we go wrong huh?
Dump his ass. A real gentleman will pay no matter who asked out who and if you both like each other enough to last then you can sometimes pay or split the bill.
To whoever disagrees with me fuck off... because idc about your opinion either way.
I know many guys will downvote you for this but I absolutely agree. If he can't be bothered to pay on a date let alone a first date he deserves to be dumped.
@myusernamerocks thanks, omg 2 downvotes because I care 🙄🙄🙄. Little bitches.
I gave you an upvote now haha.
@myusernamerocks lol thanks but I honestly do not care. Just voicing my honest opinion. Some men can handle and little boys can't. In Russia you'd be laughed at if they heard a guy did not pay for a date. It's embarrassing.
Yeah, Russia is pretty conservative in terms of gender roles! You can't really compare it to western nations which I assume most people here are likely from. I had a Russian girlfriend once and she would constantly cook for me, do my laundry and all of that stuff. I didn't even ask or expect her to, she just insisted on doing it. I never experienced that with a Western woman hahah.
@myusernamerocks exactly... a Russian women will do everything for her man. Unlike these idiots on here. 🙄 Damn these people are dumb.
the real pussy slave mangina with no self respect you mean. why? because you have a vagina? he barely knows the girl. just met her. he owes her nothing. she owes him nothing.
@supernerd99 no dickwad not because I have a vagina. Men are so fucking stupid. Go back to beating your meat you know nothing twit.
A real gentleman also wouldn't date a bratty chick like you lol
@TMarissaWL LMAOO bratty... yeah that's what I am. I'm just stating the facts sweetheart.
" Everyone especially guys"
No, that is a generational thing. Older guys would never think a girl should pay. And as it turns out, there are some outstanding younger guys who feel the same way, just not so many.
@Sephora_Addict
That you're a gold digger? Haha loser
If you expect a guy to pay for everything in order to date him, you are by definition a prostitute. Yes by all terms that are correct you are a whore.
Seriously look up the definition of whore and logically infer to the slightest degree. If he has to pay every time it means he has to pay to date you, and if it takes that for you to have sex with him, he is paying to have sex with you, you are a prostitute! by any measure that is correct, this isn't an opinion, it fact by correct semantics.
"I'm beginning to think he's either very cheap or just plain misogynistic. Should I try talking to him again and give him a second chance or move on?"
Actually, you're cheap and you're very clearly a misandrist. Who the fuck asks someone out on a date and then doesn't pay?
You should beg him for a second chance since he's the one who blocked you. Sorry but you're in the wrong no matter how you look at it. Maybe at the least you can learn from this and become a more mature person.
Nope. That guy should ABSOLUTELY avoid her.
She has an entitlement mentality.
Men, avoid females like this one.
They wanted equality? Let's give it to them.
@Madeon929 oh do shut up about the equality crap.
Shut up because, I'm right?
No thanks.
@Madeon929 Go talk about it on your comment. No one cares.
Lmao.
Funny how you don't care but, you keep commenting.😂😂😂😂
@Madeon929 well your ass just got reported for spamming. So long loser.
Same to you bud.
I'm on his side, you asked him out, and you have to pay. He probably blocked you because he doesn't want to deall with unnecessary drama.
Keeper. And a beautiful one. :)
@SpecialAgentStone haha thank you very much, kind sir.😊
You are most welcome. :)
You invited him for date. It doesn't mean he should behave like an a$$hole. In the worst case he should offer split your bill. I'm old school and I'm willing to pay for both of us regardless who invited who. Give him second chance? You must be joking. This guy is obviously d1ckhead, what do you f*cking expect? Run against the wall and bump your head into the wall. Maybe in your head will lighten up.
What the hell are you even thinking of while writing this? 'Give him another chance'? Even after your know that he is an UNCHIVALROUS man!!! A MISOGYNIST. Ik, it's not wrong if the girls pay but it's not very advisable. . He's a dumb. I hope you're not. So why even put up the question? You know that you shouldn't be talking to him!!! Use some sense honey!
Hahaha I'm a chick and I think you're an idiot
If you expect a guy to pay for everything in order to date him, you are by definition a prostitute. ahhah you are a whore.
@amphet11 Actually that's a good point haha
They will deny it, If he has to pay every time it means he has to pay to date you, and if it takes that for you to have sex with him, he is paying to have sex with you, you are a prostitute! by any measure that is correct, this isn't an opinion, its fact by correct semantics.
@amphet11 I never said, that it is wrong. I am just clarifying, she said, "wtf happened to chivalry". Didn't she? She did. So if she herself thinks that it wasn't very advisable, remember, she is the one who has that notion. So... in that way how is anyone of us supposed to change that p. o. v? You can't change somebody's thought process?
"it's not wrong if the girls pay but it's not very advisable" that's your notion and it' one of hypergamous prostitution.
@amphet11 oh alright. Thank you. Thank you VERY much. Will expect a lot of more humiliation coming from your part. Thank you. 😃
I think for first dates it's best to go dutch, with as a close second to have the one who asked the other person out to pay. It's a bit old fashioned to imply gender roles.
For repetitive dates, I'd rather switch it around to a point where it's about equal, but no need to count exactly.
I think that whoever does the asking out should pay but that's just me. I actually prefer to go dutch until there is a solidified relationship status but if he's the chivalrous type that insists on paying, I'm not going to complain as long as he lets me treat him once and a while too. Then again, I don't think I have ever asked a guy out before lol.
Personally if a guy asked me out but then expected me to foot the bill, I wouldn't date him again.
Didn't get block you? And I see what you're saying but at the same time what makes you different from him? You asked him on a date but expect him to pay? Like I say I get it cause he's a guy but again what makes you any different from him? Why can't a woman pay for the first date?
I guess you should have split the bill... oh wait, you asked him? Well if he had asked you, you would normally expect him to pay, so why are you surprised if he expected you to pay, considering the fact you invited him for a dinner?
But the guy blocked you, so he is apparently not a good person, he is probably spoiled by his parents.
It's over love!. .
Like you said he is sexy, he is cute, he is rich,. . He has no money problem, .. He Can pretty much land any girl he wants so why would he care if one girl stops liking him he got a bunch of others in same slot,. .
And now if you chase him he is gonna treat you like shit,.. And that's wrong don't chase him!. .
He blocked you don't even contact him,.
Best move will be to move on!. .
Find another gentleman like your ex! And I mean not your ex!. . Someone like your Ex
I think the way he handled things was a little rude but he did have a point. Usually the guy pays on the first date because usually he asks for the first date. You sort of broke the dating etiquette. I think the guy should pay for the first date but the woman should offer to pay at least the tip. After the second or third date I believe things should be split equally although if a guy wants to spoil me I will not turn him down.
I don't know if you've gotten the memo but dating etiquette changed in recent decades. It's completely okay for women to ask guys out first and pay for the date. And no guy "should" pay for the first date or any other date for that matter.
"didn't pay for a date I invited him to"
"misogynistic"
holy shit, you're one of the reasons men end up hating women
Ya. They think they're entitled yet want equality. What a joke.
@tyrantfuryre yeah, seriously
I've been treated by my ex girlfriends, and I've treated them
we're on equal terms, particularly if we have similar earnings
I am well over 40 and the average age of women I date is 23. My girlfriend is 22.
On the first date I always ask, "Why do you like older men?" The number one reason is, "Because they don't make me pay [for a date]"
I am not saying you should find a guy over 40 to date, but I am saying that is the conclusion of many women your age.
So you're OK with it that the number one reason girls go out with you is to leech off of you?
@hahanoway
Let's see... I pull up to our first date in a $90,000 Jaguar and my date pulls up luckily if she can get her car started at all. But she is sweet, pretty, smart, funny, and ambitious to do great things in her life. Oh, then on our second or third date, maybe I tell her to meet me at the airport in front of my $250,000 airplane so we can go for a couple of $100 hamburgers.
The most expensive first date I've had cost $5,200 by the time the night was over (and it was a great night). I don't even notice a few hundred dollars here and there for a date. There is NO WAY I would let my date pay. The most any has ever been out of pocket is 50c (because I didn't have any coins and there were only parking meters, but she got a great laugh out of it).
Seems like you're content with being used as a sugar daddy. $5,200 on a first date? lol Even if I was a billionaire I'd never spend that much on a first date. It'd just attract gold diggers en masse, I'd much rather find a girl who loves me for me. But hey, whatever floats your boat, I'm not here to judge lol.
@hahanoway
See, there is an evolutionary aspect to homo sapiens that for tens of thousands of years, young, pretty, ambitious women have been attracted to wealthy older men, however wealth was measured; and visa versa.
It is part of human nature.
I don't usually spend thousands of dollars for a date until we have been sleeping together for some time (and it involves international travel for a long weekend).
The number one reason couples divorce is over money, because for there to be a happy marriage, the husband has to be able to make money faster than the wife can spend it.
Wow so your solution is to just be rich? That's a fantastic idea, I wonder why nobody has ever just made themselves rich.
@tyber1
I did.
"I did". Doing what? I like big fish stories.
You are just dating prostitutes my man, if you paying for things is a prerequisite to them dating you, they are by definition whores. Your relationships are just prostitution really.
@amphet11
So? If he is happy, good for him!
I don't get why you don't just get prostitutes though. Why waste time and money?
@WalterRadio then that's why nobody takes your opinion seriously
@mostwomenshouldstfu
""I did". Doing what?"
I started a technology company. It is not hard to do, just be extremely smart, very hardworking, and figure out what people are willing to pay a lot of money for (or a lot of people will pay a little money for).
What technology? Don't tell me it's another piece of bull s*** software that makes people lazier.
@mostwomenshouldstfu
I can't say.
Uh huh. Perfectly logical for a businessman to keep his "technology" a secret from the people he's trying to sell to. How can they become customers they don't know what ta fuq you're selling?
Are you sure you are confident in how "easy" starting up a business is?
@mostwomenshouldstfu
Yes, it is easy to start a business.
The clue I had was when I was a fresh engineer working for big giant company, is that I noticed there were people who were not nearly as smart as I was who were making a whole lot more money than I was. It isn't hard. It only takes a plan.
Stop being so entitled and sexist, it's disgusting.
Well look at the hypocrisy in the girls answers. Whenever a guy asks why they should pay girls will back behind the 'whoever asks pays' line but here the asker clearly states she's the one who asked him and he let her pay. And now those same girls are saying he should still pay? Wtf is up with the hypocritical girls on this website?
Whoever asks pays it should be that way for BOTH sexes.
i've never heard of this rule before, but it seems like something pretty small to fight over, maybe try talking, maybe, i don't really know how it'd turn out, but it's probably a damn site better than what you've ended up with, either that, or just let him go, i mean, you hardly know the guy anyway.
Feminism wanted men and women to be equal.
Guess what? Here it is!
You for one and then he pays for one. 50/50.
Women want it both ways. Doesn't work like that.
Chivalry is dead and women killed it.