What are your thoughts on the INCEL movement and culture?

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OliviaDenny2000 · Accepted Answer

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I feel sorry for them.

Sure, their comments about women are terrible, and I do not justify their actions. With that being said, what if you were rejected by a gender your entire life? You would probably want to shame that gender too. I'm sure most of these guys weren't always this bitter. Chances are, they were the smart/nerdy guys who were rejected, because they weren't popular, and are now raging against women.

Loneliness isn't something to shame, or mock at. Loneliness has a sitgma attached to it for some reason, and it pities me to see some comments on it.

Puppylover_129 · Accepted Answer

I think its scary and kinda sad that these men turn all spiteful for not being able to get a woman. While I agree, there are women out there that suck, there's no need to think rape or murder is the way to go.

majorG · Accepted Answer

Sad situation. There is no excuse for violence.

At the same time, it would be good if we as a society recognized that a lot of men (of all ages) lack guidance when it comes to the opposite sex. Men have to take a pretty active role when it comes to dating, and a lot of men are either not learning what that entails, or are being fed poor quality information.

Trolloween · Accepted Answer

I find it tragic but also understandable to some extent. It's always a personality issue and it's so frustrating hearing them all complain about looks when 90% of the ones I have seen aren't ugly at all

Bluemax · Answer

I believe that they can be potentially dangerous people who need to be dealt with accordingly. I believe that many mistakenly believe they can't find intimacy with a woman due to circumstances beyond their control, without realizing that in most cases it is very much *within* their control. I believe that probably due to learned hopelessness they think that they can do nothing to better themselves and their situation. In most cases, they are profoundly wrong.

The question remains what to do about them. Well, this is something my brother has dealt with quite a bit (more on that later). I'm actually vehemently against anti-hate speech laws, as they are, I believe, an unnecessary limit on free speech. Rather, I believe that men can make themselves good role models, and men and women alike can encourage them to improve themselves. I would be very interested to know about the fathers of these incels. Something tells me they were men who could use some improvement themselves.

Now, where I part company with *many* people on GAG is that many feel they can just name call and insult them into action. By calling them pieces of shit, or garbage, or pathetic losers, they somehow believe that they are being brutally honest and this will make them see the error of their ways.

I almost hate to think people could be so foolish.

Firstly, I think that people who use those terms are dishonest in that they often don't really believe it will help. They are using those terms because they're exasperated and annoyed. Secondly, overwhelmingly those terms will just make people more defensive and unwilling to listen. If you don't understand this, you're profoundly mistaken.

Now interestingly, my brother has been working with incels decades before the term became widespread. He has counseled people with disabilities, who for various reasons haven't experienced intimacy. All of them are repelled by this recent eruption of violence. All. This leads me to think that for every one Elliot Roger, there are hundreds of guys who can't find a mate who don't kill, and who never will. They just go about their lives as best they can. The guys on reddit and 4chan and other web sights are, I believe, a very vocal minority... but it troubles me they seem to be growing.

NearlyNapping · Answer

INCEL is nothing new. It's been around since the beginning of humanity. What's new is that now people have a forum (the Internet) to whine and complain about it. The Internet has the ability to take every little thing and amplify it far beyond what it deserves. Then it builds on itself. This INCEL and MGTOW stuff would not be happening if not for the Internet.

This is also about the modern entitlement attitude. Everyone seems to think they somehow deserve things, like it's supposed to be automatically given to them. This applies to a whole lot more than just INCEL.

Something that just popped in my head. I think I'm going to add porn to this. Among other things, it gives these guys an outside-looking-in feeling - more than they already had. The are reminded over and over again, at the click of a button, what they are missing out on. Again, the Internet. Not long ago that wasn't even possible.

People today voice such strong opinions against labeling and stereotypes. But I swear people today are dramatically more into labels than any time in the past. People want to label everyone else, and they want to label themselves. They want to be in some category, as if that gives them identity. They want to be INCEL. They want to be MGTOW. They want to be bi, or demi, or pan, or CIS. They even want their very own pronouns to go along with it. It's like people today don't even know who they are unless they find the right word, the right label.. "Me" doesn't seem to be enough any more.

To INCEL or not to INCEL, that is the question. To INCEL? OK, now go start killing people.

There have been INCELs since forever. There have been MGTOWs forever. The difference is that now they are proactive about it. They seem to think that women MUST accept them, date them, take them to bed. This is just one of the many facets of entitlement. If they don't get what they are entitled to, they throw a temper tantrum.

Last but not least. People need to get away from the god damned computer or mobile device. They need to go out in the real world. Get some exercise instead of letting all that pent up energy build up until it explodes. Humans aren't made to sit on their ass all day. They need to go out and run a marathon, or do some physical labor. Then they'll be too tired to go out shooting people.

One last thing. They are going about it wrong. But these INCEL and MGTOW guys do have some valid points. People really should listen instead of totally writing them off.

Joeofalltrades · Answer

A bunch of guys that think they're entitled to something that they are not. A bunch of guys who want the hottest chick but have no self esteem or any other qualities that a hot chick would want. A bunch of guys that are too lazy to workout and train and have a better body and life and think they should just have everything because they're entitled to do so. A bunch of guys that think to be happy they need a woman instead of being happy with themselves and that it happens naturally. A bunch of guys that have no dreams no real career goals they just have jobs with no aspirations for anything better then just dead end nothing. A bunch of guys that probably should have played a little bit more Sports when they were younger so they learned how to lose without being a pansy and taking it out on everyone. These kind of people need to get over themselves Society does not give a flying fuck about them. If you want to stand out in the world do something that the world wants and then all of that other socioeconomic stuff falls into place but they don't teach people this in school they're more worried about teaching them how to choose their gender and pronouns another useless fucking bullshit that means absolutely nothing in the real world. These guys have left high school and University being taught by liberal-left bullshit pansies that couldn't make it in the real world and now they're ruining these people by teaching them the same garbage because they are the same. These are the guys that cannot fight their own fight.

englisc · Answer

It's nothing new. In the past there's evidence that shows that 80% of women managed to reproduce while only 40% of men did. Some say that today when it comes to sex 80% of women have sex with 20% of men - that isn't backed up by any solid evidence but there have been studies done for example on sites like OKCupid where women rated 80% of the men there as being below average in terms of attractiveness, perhaps that's where that statistic comes from, and the idea that only 1 in 5 men can get laid regularly isn't that hard to believe.

This is one of the reasons for the introduction of monogamous marriage in modern civilisation. In order to incentivise the bottom 60-80% of men to become more productive they created the agreement for each men to have only one wife, thus giving those men who otherwise would have no sexual access, sexual access and the ability to have a family. Without that they wouldn't feel any real need to contribute to that society - one of the biggest motivations to do so would be to ensure a good life for their children - which they wouldn't care about if they didn't have any.

Cultures with more monogamous marriages became more cohesive as a result of this. Those that loosened sexual morals and freed women from the expectation of marriage lost that cohesion and eventually either got invaded or collapsed, especially since many of the men just abandoned that civilisation.

Also, many of those men without sexual access would become violent and lash out at that society. Men are naturally more aggressive - that aggression can either be used for good (protecting the women, children, society as a whole) or bad (destroying it). Take away their ability to have sex, relationships, families etc. and it goes bad.

That's not a justification, it just is what it is. It's human nature. Always has been and always will be.

Bananaman177 · Answer

They didn't volunteer, they were drafted.

And it could VERY EASILY happen to YOUR son.

Every generation, a new crop of happy bouncing baby boys is born, and their mommies love them very much and want nothing but happiness and love for them, but we all know how it goes, some kids have all the good luck, some have all the bad luck, and most are in the middle somewhere. These guys are the happy bouncing baby boys who are growing up to discover that they won't get to experience the good things in life, they are here to work a crappy job and die alone, and that feeling of hopelessness and self-disgust is a horrific war that they wage in their mind every day, and most of them feel like they're losing ground steadily, and the only thing that could help them, the love and understanding and support of other people, and good friendship and fellowship and community, is the one thing that is always DENIED to them, and whether that's their fault, everybody else's fault, or nobody's fault, the fact is it's sad but true.

These people are clawing their fingernails out against a concrete prison screaming in agony for the tiniest little show of love and affection, they're starved of it. If you have no sympathy for them, or if you actively despise them for some perceived crime on their part, I think you're being a straight up shithead for real. That's all.

These people are some mother's babies, and they're fucking drowning and nobody will help them. Fuck YOU if you feel like it's your job to make them feel worse. I know there are many people who like to hurt and humiliate these people for fun. You'll be held to account for every bit of it, plus interest.

goaded · Answer

There's a related article, here:   "'I'm sad that I didn't have sex until I was 37'" "One of the things that most worries me about the publicity around the Toronto attack is that people who are still looking for love may feel stigmatised and have a sense of shame. It might perpetuate the idea that people who have yet to find love are socially awkward and in some way weird. I felt I was perfectly normal before I found my wife and I was perfectly normal after - I didn't change. There is nothing unusual about me. There are plenty of people looking for love who are not hate-filled. It would be a shame if we conflated whatever drove the Toronto attacker with people looking for a human need. There is no right or entitlement to being loved or finding love, but looking for love is still a valid wish in life. Not having love is not anybody's fault, it's just circumstances."

Servus09 · Answer

This is what happens when schools and society put girls before boys for over 30 years straight. In schools, little boys can't even chew their pop tarts into the shape of a gun or they will get expelled. Then we see this constant talk about how girls and women are soooo oppressed.

Well, as a man, I can tell you nobody ever gave two fucks about me as a child... ever. I had feminist teacher's tell me to my face to stop trying because I'm stupid. Do you have any idea what that does to a 12-year-old? It makes them give up completely. Meanwhile, girls get all these special programs where they can learn without the boys being around. Then there are the boy scouts, which got sued into oblivion by feminists and now they are required to let girls into all aspects of the boy scouts.

Why is this so difficult for people to understand? You can't have strong men if you keep telling them to be like girls and shaming their natural male tendencies. You feminists need to fuck off and stop abusing my little bros. You cunts.

RationalMale · Answer

I have a coworker like this. He spends all his time playing video games, talks about how he doesn't even bother having dating apps on his phone, etc.

He's an obese slob with a bad haircut and an overgrown gross beard. I tried to talk to him about getting to a gym and working out, playing only 5 hours of games a week, etc. He wasn't interested.

My impression? Most of these guys are either burnt from bad relationships (these guys I feel sorry for, they need some alone time and some good hobbies and friends and some gym and yoga classes) or they are pathetic losers who won't put in the needed work (they can go die of drug overdose for all I care).

getting a woman is like getting a job. You gotta make your resume the best you can, work to make it good, and then get it to as many employers as possible.

You don't want to work to improve your resume, you don't want to apply, or risk rejection at interviews? Well, life's tough. Some people can't cut it.

What are your thoughts on the INCEL movement and culture?

IlyaTheImpaler · Answer

I have only read Elliot's "My twisted world", as recommended by my friends, to learn English.
I find it among the most brilliant black comedies I've read. It's too bad that it is not ironic.
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The main character's worldview is hilarious, and so tragic at a deeper level. It's a tale of a very lost boy, a KHV at 22 living in a place like Isla Vista (where almost everyone is fucking everyone else) is basically like everyday waking up to a nightmare, watching everyone around him having what he can't have, and he ended up lashing out at the world.

Sadly, he decided to kill those innocent people. He allegedly has a very shitty family and he was so lost on his path to adulthood. In the attempt of "revenge", he didn't go for the people who wronged him, instead he just killed his roommate (who probably has as much sex as he does) and some random Chads and Stacies, then himself...😒 perhaps this random element is a fitting ending to "My twisted world".

I wish I could've been his friend when he had no one to share this frustration with (just the sound of his little sister being fucked in the next room 🤔). I would try my best to convince him that some girl saying cruel things to him or his lack of sex are such frivolous and quirky parts of his life and should be treated as such (write a book about them!), but there are much more beautiful things in this world worth dying for.

I don't know anything about the INCEL thingy though, aside from it stands for Involuntary Celibacy and Elliot is considered an Incel.

DeadRosesWithWine · Answer

It's sad, as a 26 year old virgin who has chased, been friendzoned, & heartbroken by several women. I understand the pain & frustration of feeling so alone. However, that doesn't mean this is the way to go about it. It's not so much that men put pressure on ourselves, it's because of our peers. Not only are you seen as less of a man if you have less sex, but you're constantly berated & mocked if you are a virgin. I love how everyone is trying to turn this around & say it's because they have too high of standards. That simply just isn't the case at all, I for example have fallen in love with someone that many wouldn't find attractive, but her personality & how good of friends we were melded so well together, unfortunately she was out of my league, imparently. When you feel like you are the ugliest person on earth compared to other men, not only do you feel worthless, but it eats away at you. Not a day goes by, where I don't hate myself or wish I was never born. To live your life solely for the purpose of finding another mate is ridiculous, but when you are surrounded by people who are constantly happy & then are mocked for being alone by ones who are closest to you instead of trying to help, it makes life seem not worth living. All these guys in Incel who want to kill & rape women, I don't agree with that at all. I could never intentionally hurt another human being like these guys want to, no matter how much people hurt, take advantage of, or use me. (Female or not.) I couldn't do it. The whole movement & culture makes me hate myself & people like me even more. Because now this is what represents people like me. Not genuinely sweet guys who just have bad luck with women, making it even harder for me to ever find happiness. If anyone should be raped & murdered it's these fucking assholes.

Anonymous · Answer

"Misogyny at the heart of the manosphere."
Mainstream media continues to fumble and misrepresent anything politically incorrect at every turn. Imagine my surprise.

"Angry and bitter"
They're having a shit time in life. It would be weird if they weren't angry and bitter. Enduring anguish and coming out the other side with a positive attitude is not a given. Sure it would be great if they could just take everything well and cope with everything as well as people who's problems have never compared... except that would be dumb to expect that. So they're angry and bitter and now that they got attention, instead of doing something to help them we're instead going to rant about all the hate and insist that it invalidates their pain, damn them further, put them on the to-be-censored list. Don't fix the problem just cover it over, make it quiet so it can fester deeper and hurt more, good idea.

People still apparently haven't noticed that they call others sources of hate to objectify, dehumanize and mark them as a target of hate.

A dismal excuse for journalism once again.

thingwithfeathers · Answer

Elliot Rodger shot seven people in 2014 and was an incel. Very recently, a man killed ten people and injured 14 in a van attack after praising Elliot Rodger and declaring an 'incel rebellion'.
Is there anything left to say?
I know not all these men are as extreme but they're still so full of resentment and spite. Mentally, I do not think these men are sound.
They can't be happy when hate consumes them.
These men are misogynistic and advocate rape and violence towards women. They'll inevitably keep this attitude for most of their life not realising that it is that same attitude holding them back.

brocklee · Answer

Illogical idiots.

Incel. Involuntarily Celibate.

The FACT is, pussy is available. All over the place. They say that they are being deprived sex? Bullshit. They set they standards to an unreasonable level. They are choosing to go without sex rather than go below the unreasonable standards they have set for themselves. This makes it a choice. That makes it voluntary.

Now. For the worst flaw in this logic: These pussies will cry "I am supposed to lower my standards and sleep with someone I am not attracted to?"

The exact scenario they are bitching women are putting them through. They are the worst form of hypocrites. They are loud and trying organize hypocritical. High horse hypocritical.

InsertCoolName · Answer

It's dangerous. I understand that as a man there's intense pressure to lose your virginity and it can feeling absolutely humiliating and demoralizing to be a kissless virgin when you don't want to be, but incels don't handle their frustration in a healthy way.

They seem to hate all women and girls (and often men who have lost their virginity) and some literally advocate rape or removing women's rights. Frequently they even use racist (referring to black men as "Tyrones" or Indians as "-pret" ) language as well.

sugarette · Answer

I think the entire concept is silly, sick and stupid, and these guys don’t have my shoulder to cry on.

Mr_Smile · Answer

The movement is caused by a bigger problem, namely feminism and how men are treated as a whole in modern society. We've almost done a full 180, and instead of having equality, feminism has created inequality. Men are becoming the oppressed sex, so it's not surprising to see some groups pop up from it. This is the first I hear of this group, but it really doesn't surprise me given how men are treated these days. People can scream mysogony all they want, but at the end of the day, groups like these wouldn't exist if they didn't have to.

TayTay21 · Answer

I think this is a symptom of larger problem. Our society on the whole is sick. People are so messed up, they have mental health issues and drug problems stemming from how messed up life is. A lot of these guys don't have anyone around them to keep them tethered to reality. People left alone for long periods of time go crazy. That's why solitary confinement is a punishment.

jaidee · Answer

Totally legitimate in origin because women have an unfairly great power in dating and because they lie about what they pretend to desire in a man.

But turning this state of suffering into a culture seems odd to me. If they go check PUA culture, they can start finding answers, even tough the road ahead of them is a long one.

Women have no empathy for men (cf. Women are wonderful effect) and society only cares about addressing women's problems. So, nobody will help these guys fix the reason why they're being overlooked. If you already check women's comments here and news articles following the recent tragedy, nobody ever considers how destructive it is for someone's life to be confined to loneliness. Even if you only focus on sex, even though these guys probably lack affection more than sex... sex in Maslow's hierarchy is as necessary as food (go check!)

Truth-haters, show me those thumbs down!

Investigator · Answer

I agree with Ben Shapiro on this one. The Incel movement is essentially what happens the culture puts the cart before the horse.

Basically, through extensive, entrenched saturation of pornography into every form of media, sex has been elevated from an action to a state: the presumption is that everyone is engaging in it and having it, and if you fail to have lost your virginity by some arbitrary point in life, you are considered a loser, there must be something wrong with you. This kind of thinking turns being a virgin into an implied state of deficiency, since not having sex is now assumed to be a character fault. Thus, men now more feel pressure than ever to have sex and lose their virginity; if not because it is natural, then because they are laughed at by other men and looked down on by women as "lesser".

I mean, "what kind of loser hasn't banged at least one womanl by the age of 30? What are you, a mangina/incel/ugly dude who can't get any? What's your excuse?"

madhatters4 · Answer

I think INCEL culture is a great result of the dangers of toxic masculinity. i know that phrase is inflammatory and many believe it to be some slam on men but i think our culture has put to much stress on men to see their value inherently linked to their success with women.

if you can't get women labels like loser, pussy, gay, beta, etc, etc get cast on you that are simply unfair and dangerous. now the reports from the texas shooter are that he was broekn by a rejection from a girl. we have the example in california of the Elliott guy resorted to fatal violence due to a bruised ego after years of rejection

but perhaps if the value of a man's masculinity wasn't so tied up having sex we wouldn't have men resorting to misogyny and violence as a result of rejection.

Anonymous · Answer

Mostly a bunch of guys who whine about how girls won't ask them out and then complain about girls. What this tells me is they don't want to face their insecurities. This bothers me to see this as I know they are in pain, and I've been in the same place.

I am an introvert, was very shy, and I have been diagnosed with depression and an anxiety disorder. And I had intimacy issues. I had 5 major things I had to get past to get dating, so I got off my duff and did it in small steps. I started dating in high school but didn't find many girls I really wanted to date. This process of self-improvement took about 20 years. I didn't get real confidence until my 40s. But I did it gradually and fixed issues in my life.

And I've done things most guys only dream of, simply because I asked women to. Yes I got rejected a lot but I also got some affirmatives. 90% rejection rate for guys is normal, one just has to get used to it.

Aynsof · Answer

Well their "culture" sure isn't going to help them with their problem for sure
But the mechanics of it is the same as any other marginalized group when them great an insular subculture that nurtures an us vs mentality it is very common and very well documented
That being said the reasons here are maybe easier to fix than some other insular aggressive subcultures
No one has an obligation to have sex with anyone of course but if we all (men and women alike) were a little more open to it a little nicer to each other in general then perhaps not only wouldn't we have these incel people killing people and spouting despicable misogyni or women writing manifestos calling for abortion of all male foetus we might also just in general have a lot less sad and lonely people who suffer depression and the like because no one really cares if they are around or not...

Dchrls78104 · Answer

The Incels are a product of today's society. Their concerns about being rejected and/or mistreated by women is legitimate. Men are being mistreated by women. Yet their violent behaviour is unjustifiable. If girls have done you wrong, or don't want you, why not retreat away from them into a cave or some such place? How would your acts of violence draw them any closer to you? Why target innocent people, like Minassian did, because you were abused by guilty wicked people?
Still, their story is very sad. Even a touch from another human being, especially of the opposite sex, is said to be the cause of euphoric (like a high) elation among them. They're so sad and hopeless and have such low self esteem that they openly talk about killing themselves. When he was arrested, Minassian wanted the police to kill him.
Sad as they are, the Incels graphically illustrate the depths to which humanity has sunk. We have clearly dropped the ball when it comes to how we treat each other.

BigJake · Answer

It's only going to get worse. And it isn't just an issue in American suburbia. Go investigate the reasons muslim terrorists commit acts of violence. A sexless life and those 72 virgins seem to come up an awful lot. There's an entire generation of people out there who are socially awkward, poorly parented, filled with entitlement, and livid with irrational rage at their circumstances in life.

People don't realize it, but we are on the verge of a serious breakdown in society, and this is just a symptom of the bigger problem. Men need to take it on ourselves to help guys that this that we see struggling in life. Women aren't going to be of help because they shit on weak men and don't know what is means to be a man in any case. That's why single mothers tend to raise boys who are troubled. It's really up to men to fix these issues among ourselves. But it's probably already too late to fix a lot of the dysfunction that's already been set in motion.

JSPlasmo1 · Answer

These young Men need a positive male role model to help teach them how to have self confidence and self worth. They are emotionally broken and in need of help before they dive off the deep end.

TheFunkyThumb · Answer

Man... Humans weren't ready for the internet. This is what happens when you can't teach a generation about how to deal with emotions and function in society. This is what happens when you allow any group of people to gather just to complain with no intention of getting better. This is what happens when the ingroup is put above everything instead of balanced between outgroup and individual.

Mexicoman101 · Answer

I feel bad for these guys & will discourage them from attempting to collectivize their grievances. This is a huge reason we need safe, sane, & regulated prostitution. I think women tend to just assume the worst about these kinds of men, it's not exactly a plus in womens eyes to be virgin, & not to mention all the lashing out that takes place on the incel boards.

NerdInDenial · Answer

It's involuntary celibate; this term describes the undesirables and the losers of the genetic lottery. Just like poverty, there is no one solution. We can try to teach men that sex is not the only thing to life and that may help, but these people will continue to exist. Another solution is to eliminate all "ugly" men who keep on getting rejected.

Catholicgirl22 · Answer

Movement? Culture? Being butthurt at women refusing to have sex with you is hardly a movement or culture.

who-dis · Answer

It's a very mentally unhealthy way of coping with loneliness and/or rejection. Joining that crowd only ensures they will NEVER find love. I would feel sorry for them, but I don't want to be anywhere near them.

Anonymous · Answer

It is a product of the internet, and a sad example of the dangers of antisocial behavior. I fear that people will just blow off this hate group as silly, instead of dangerous.

JohnFrost · Answer

It's the blame game. My life sucks because someone else. You only have power over yourself not others so doesn't matter if it's there fault or not. Only way to get out of you situation is changing yourself.

LegateLanius · Answer

Pathetic. Blaming everyone else for their problems. What I see here isn't a struggle with life, it's indulgence into self-pity. There's more blaming and shitting on others going on than actual attempts at betterment of oneself. There's nothing inherently bad about a person that's dealt a shit hand, that's life. Most of them will never stoop to this kind of thinking but actually manage their lives, here lays the leftover bunch that would rather sit and wallow in their shit and tears.

ScaryCool · Answer

Sounds like wanna be terrorists. Propaganda. Really no threat unless people like you post it and give attention to it for no reason good reason. I never heard of it until now.

Eleventy · Answer

I think that attaching one's identity to something like being an INCEL is harmful and a self fulfilling prophesy to a large extent.

Bourne96 · Answer

Just legalize prostitution so we can get these fools laid

SirRexington · Answer

The word Incel it'self is stupid, has only existed for 2 weeks and I'm already sick of hearing it.

Mr-Kabuki · Answer

being incel is worse than MGTOW. at least MGTOWs decide to take on self ownership choose to improve their lives outside of romance and sex, but incels are just fucking whack.

CT_CD · Answer

Women should have sex with them and the problem will be solved

WalterRadio · Answer

From the reports out of Santa Fe, there was another set of victims.

Bismarck12 · Answer

One of the stupider things I've seen people take seriously in 2018.

Giggletr0n · Answer

Just seems like a bunch of people with too high standards and too many excuses.

DoctorJosh · Answer

Weak minded men in an echochamber

RahulP51 · Answer

I think opposite gender should try to talk with incels more so they'll feel less lonely.

oddboyz · Answer

I already hate myself for being a 24 year old virgin. The fact that I'm associated with these assholes just makes me want to die

peachblossomluck · Answer

This sounds like a terrorist sect of MGTOW.

Pamina · Answer

I think they're ticking time bombs.

Udbhav_Bantwal · Answer

I got bored halfway...

larswisner · Answer

I've known about these guys for years

MarketData · Answer

Being a sad loser is a movement now? smh

ChristianBateman · Answer

Pathetic losers who have given up

BravoKi · Answer

Women created this shit.

Anonymous · Answer

Bitter losers

dripplieDropli · Answer

Gotta get them sum luv

Anonymous · Answer

There's no such thing as an INCEL.

HalloPeoplz · Answer

Praise St. Elliot

Hannajenky · Answer

Dont know what it is

CoffeeWC · Answer

idiots

keenosamz · Answer

losers.

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