+1 yThere are definitely leagues... MOST definitely!
The irony is that it's the very people who claim that its just a social construct that are the ones who perpetuate it the most.
It's those who are insecure in themselves that can't work towards finding someone that is objectively hot, as well as in the subjective sense.
That said more often than not people do date on the initial comparison of looks. Aan average looking woman will more often than not be much more comfortable opening her legs to an average looking man (who is also *average* in character, and easy to control in a relationship).
The hot men (and women) are the ones who on average, will find it EASY getting A LOT of attention from the opposite sex, but will struggle with finding someone of the opposite sex with the same level of self-esteem to match his or her level/s of physical looks.
And that is the cookie cutter in all relationships - and "leagues".00 Reply
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yHell naw.
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+1 yI believe in confidence leagues. 1) You first need confidence to put yourself in an environment or situation where something could transpire.
2) confidence to sustain an actual conversation verbal or nonverbal, basically some sort of connection.
3) confidence to suggest a future meetup.
4) confidence to sustain interest (mystique) until the meet up
5) confidence to actually show up and have a good time if you really are
6) confidence to nip something in the bud if it's not working. Aka knowing your worth, not leading someone on, not wasting time, having standards. the latter usually takes years of pain and trial and error to attain and those that don't have said experiences are often morally pious. It's human to make mistakes and it's human to have empathy for others that also make them.20 Reply
Yes I do. I believe it has to do with how "attractive" someone is. So a guy talking about a "beautiful" girl could be like," nah bruh I'd never have a chance with her. She's wayy out of my league." However, at my school at least, I've noticed all the really "attractive" people tend to date someone that isn't in their league. Meaning they are way out of the "lesser attractive" persons league. I put quotes around those words because to each is his own. Someone's beautiful might be someone's average or someone's ugly might be someone else's beautiful etc.
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+1 yYes because leagues are created by standards. Anyone who says leagues don't exist or they don't believe in hem must not have any standards. Leagues aren't necessarily a bad thing so long as they aren't based entirely off of shallow things like looks or money, though some are.
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I'd be inclined to agree, I have my own set of *general* standards, but within that range have never actually "discriminated against" any gal. I've had a fuck ton of experience messing with/dating/asking out chicks that, whilst I were attracted to on the physical level, and they were to me, they would fuck it all up with insecure head games because they weren't sure they were good enough for me...
+1 yif you see what kind of men 98% of the 8s and 9s date, then you know its true. leagues matter. looks in this superficial society are an asset. people tend to exploit assets.
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Yep it's why, I'm going to end up alone, Im really ugly
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@LoneWolf23 not that much. more like irrationally insecure. you are like a 6/10. hit the gym, gain some swag and some money and you can easily land a 6-7 woman. but you need to get rid of those confidence issues first. competence creates confidence.
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+1 yYes, because unfortunately they exist.
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Yep, I'm like a 2 or 3/10 at best
+1 yNo. That's flat out discrimination on a superficial level. Why do I say that? I did it myself and was proven wrong. I was dating somebody and after awhile I thought they were below me (they were not in my league - which consisted of somebody who ate healthy, exercised a lot, had a degree or working at it, was studious, and working at a good career), but none of that truly dealt with their heart or personality. After some lengthy conversations did I come to realize I was being snobbish, and then i started to realize how good of a person they were.
I think people should have basic decent standards, dont just let any riffraff in your life on that level. However, i cannot consider myself above anybody or "out of their league"10 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIt's a two way Street I'd say I don't like to go by leagues but then I do have standards that some women don't apply to. But a lot of this comes with social media I belive as well as an aspect of biology looking for a worth while mate. The social media influence has created the blockade of making it more superficial over important factors. Being healthy is a biological benefit, I will never blame a girl for wanting that. Whilst a good tooth to gum ratio will only look good on your Facebook feed and that has made a influence.
The secret is these people that would typically be in a higher league are usually shitty people. The guy who has the world given to him cause he is attractive will likely hurt you more than the guy who will worship your attention. Whilst the girl who gets all the attention will mostlikly go behind your back to get her feel of satisfaction.00 ReplyYes, but it's mostly a mental reality. If you think/feel deep down you are below someone then you are below them until you recognize you're not. If you feel someone is out of your league then they are, until you realize they're not. It's a phenomenon that exists only because you make it exist.
10 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Not really. It's just a intelligent construction created by those that think they are better than for others or less worth.
The funny part, those that are one in the bunch tends to buy it and also tends to try to reinforce it on those that doesn't fallows it 😂
(if you know better, it's a limiting mindset for week mind's that doesn't want to develop to something better)40 Reply500 opinions shared on Dating topic. Believe what you will about it. Guys will say "oh obviously if a hot girl is dating an 'ugly' guy she's only dating him for the money." (Even in circumstances when it's pretty obvious she's better off than him.) I just googled "most mismatched couples" and found this emgn.com/.../
which I feel pretty much proves dating league aren't a thing.00 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. No, because they don't exist. If you notice, the people who think they exist are usually not very successful in dating. They're typically frustrated guys mad that someone they consider beneath them is dating a pretty girl, or they're girls who are mad that they aren't getting what they deserve while others are, unfairly. So, in that context, the concept of leagues is based in peoples' senses of entitlement, and the jealousy born of it.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yLol yeah ofcourse they do when's the last time you've seen an educated woman with a really dumb man? or a very hot man with an ugly or below average looking woman? 'Personality' my ass. Looks and status matter just as much as personality if not even more.
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I've seen plenty of educated men with dumb girls tho. 🐸☕
Opinion Owner+1 y@datroroguy it's why I mentioned the opposite of that. Some men dont mind if their woman is a little below average in intelligence or success. Men are usually pressured to be successful , and women are usually pressured to be beautiful.
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Well, I'm really ugly so, I might as well give up
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not disagreeing with you that "leagues" exist but i've seen both of those lol
What's not to believe? "League" is just a derivative term describing social status. Social status is absolutely the premier criteria for attracting a mate and among the top criteria for maintaining a lasting relationship, especially with a woman. That's a fact. Where facts are concerned, beliefs are irrelevant.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYes and no. It is a larger picture than appearance, which most guys tend to think it is 100% about.
A person that earns a lot of money will attract higher up the scale.
A person with mental health issues will be aiming lower on the scale.
Many things not appearance based that will slightly adjust the scale.00 ReplyNo because once you say, “oh she’s way out of my league” then you are already accepting defeat and you miss a hundred percent of the shots you don’t take, and what if she/he rejects you, you don’t have nothing to lose rejection is just a dumb fear be strong and go put yourself out there and get some one better someone that you deserve not someone that you think you deserve because you two are alike or in the same “league”
00 ReplyWhen people speak about leagues here they imply some kind of ordering where one party is lesser than the other. One's insecurities don't constitute as facts.
I do believe in 'categories'. For instance, I'm not good with shy women for romantic purposes.00 Reply
+1 yYes. And no. But mostly yes.
Try to understand, i wouldn't try to date a supermodel, and she is a 10, but i wouldn't date your grandmother either, and no offense to your gramms, but she's a 1, sooo. Yes, leagues matter. And you believe in them even if you say you dont.10 ReplyThings can get complicated when you date someone who is less/more attractive than you are. The odds are in your favour when you date someone who has a similar lifestyle, background and taste as you. Therefore I believe that league is not the right word for the concept. Maybe just date someone who is on your 'level'... 😊
10 ReplyYep. Tho I prefer the Premier League to others.
Having said that, 20,000 leagues under the sea was okay too20 ReplyNot exactly. The concept of SMV (sexual marketplace value) seems more accurate to me, though still far from perfect.
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+1 yYes. People know what they can get. If they want to go higher or lower, that is their choice, but I hope that they're being sensible.
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+1 yI know how THIS is gonna go already... guys are gonna say "no, I don't" for the most part and then girls are going to outright say that "of course, there are leagues".
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Knew it00 Replyi believe that people would use such a lame excuse to justify their shallowness :D
11 ReplyAs there are great differences in beauty and personality so will there be in dating too. If you were a 10, simply put, you wouldn't be dating a 4, why should anyone else?
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+1 yIf they didn't exist we'd all be dating model guys and girls... which we dont.
10 Reply564 opinions shared on Dating topic. Leagues dont really exist anymore from what I see. Everyone has different opinions and likes and dislikes. And with 7 billion people in the world there's bound to be someone you consider "out of your league" to be interested in you.
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+1 yDating leagues. Makes me think of a hockey game and all the fighting.
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Lol. I love this response. Now every time someone brings up this topic I'll think of people brawling on a rink
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Thank you. Not knowing what it was I had to say what came to mind.
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+1 yYeah. Because you see people who are clearly UEFA Champions League dating people who are more Blue Square Championship.
Simples...20 Reply
+1 yI dated out of my so called league it did not last long for many reasons and no jealousy was not one of the reasons.
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+1 yThere are leagues that exists just like attract like
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+1 yNo. But what even is a dating league really? Like how do you conceptualize and articulate that? I think not many people would even be able to.
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+1 yIf there are leagues then what are they based on? Is it looks, money, education, interests etc. If they exist then explain constructively.
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+1 yLet me put it this way, i Won't date a woman that thinks they exist. if she can't love me for who I am. then she is simply full of her self.
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+1 yBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. Difficult to assign someone in a league without being subjective
00 Reply2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Most people aim higher than what they are. In that sense, leagues exist, and people will never look at people below them.
00 ReplyI believe in my version of them. The stereotypical one it's only focused and who is more beautiful or who has more money. Mine is based on attributes, personalities and intelligence.
00 ReplyNo I don't believe that people adapting to society are superior than me
10 Reply356 opinions shared on Dating topic. I believe in types and compatibility not dating leagues
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI don't believe in leagues, but, i do believe in "types"
If she's a woman who likes working out, and being healthy etc.. why should she be with a man, who's exactly the opposite?00 Reply
+1 yyes, and it would be very difficult if you want to get someone out of your league
00 ReplyYes, someone would be delusional to date someone much below them
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+1 yYes, but if you can date outside of your league you always should.
00 ReplyYes, that is important in order to strengthen the relationship
00 Reply908 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yeah & that I don't fit into them lol
10 Replyonly idiots believe in that stuff
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+1 yNot really
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~ Mrs Manson00 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. What the hell is a dating league?
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You've heard the saying "she's out of his league" or vice versa. Basically, something believes they are better than somebody (this tends to be on superficial standards - body size/weight, "attractiveness", economical status, and the list goes on)
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I think it's like a bowling league. They round up groups of guy and girls and each week compete for the best date. Scoring would have to be based on something non biased though like how much they tipped their waiter or taxi driver, how uncomfortable were the kids in the ball pen at McDonald's, that sort of thing as opposed to the same old, did they go home alone or was the datee chewing their arm off in the morning to sneak out... Just to keep it interesting.
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+1 yNever seen or heard of this in my country.
10 Reply 1.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes & I never made the league
00 ReplyWhat is a dating league? I've never heard of it.
10 ReplyYes they exist as do Alpha and Beta males.
00 Reply19.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. No because nobody would be in my league
00 ReplyI have seen many odd couples, love happens
00 ReplyYes. I'm out of everyone's league
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+1 yYes because women made it a thing by force
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+1 yYeah im above all of them
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+1 yYes I do believe in..
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I'm too ugly no girl could find me attractive
I don't know about dating leagues
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yAbsolutely, I will only date within my league
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+1 yWhat are they?
10 Reply Nope
00 ReplyYes.
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I'm too ugly for a girlfriend or relationship
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Look at me what girl would find me attractive? Zero
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Unless there was something wrong with her
3.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. No I don't.
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