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- Or that anyone, regardless of their physical beauty, would be attracted to you?
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501 opinions shared on Dating topic. No it’s just so dumb. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder to a great extent. Your opinion is not fact. Plus conventional beuaty is mostly reserved to beauty related indistries and some people have tastes that deviate from the conventional standards of beauty. I have seen so many men who find women with big facial bones attractive. For instance Angelina Jolie is not conventionally attractive, she has a square shaped jaw which is quite manly, she doesn’t have large almond shaped eyes, she doesn’t have a small chin and she doesn’t have an hourglass figure but so many men are attracted to her just as many aren’t for those exact reasons. That proves that everyone has their individual tastes. Aishwarya Rai is a conventional beauty and although almost everyone can agree that she is at least pretty, not every single man on earth finds her to be their cup of tea, many prefer unconventional women like Jolie. Nobody is right or wrong in their preference so we can’t measure leagues because everyone’s opinion is different. Unless you want to use conventional standards as a prameter to measure what league someone is in, only not everyone is aware of what conventional beauty is.
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1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. No, I don't, not at all. I think it's kind of gross, actually. I don't believe in hierarchical societies. They exist, for sure, but it's not my thing. Whether it's about looks, or status, money, 'success', I have never made decisions based on these.
But personality and cultural differences - those are key. You cannot just skip over those and pretend they don't exist.
841 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes, there are general leagues. If there weren't, we wouldn't be able to define who's at the bottom or the top of the attractiveness hierarchy. And we use those drastic differences to define where everything fits in-between. And it's also deeply intertwined with our survival mechanisms and why we find deformed &/or diseased people to be at the bottom.
But we we can see the blatant & common league differences when we pay attention to common behavior. It can even be studied and proved.
Now, since you said "dating" instead of only "attractiveness," there are also ways where people lower in the looks-tier hierarchy can get with someone placed higher on it. Common ways are if the person that is lower on it has money, fame, or status.
However, men are typically more willing to date lower even if the woman doesn't have all of that. She generally only has to be attractive to the man.
But women generally aren't willing to do the same. It's usually relative to their current placement in the dominance hierarchy. And they're hypergamous in nature, so they generally date up the dominance hierarchy.
Yes and no, mostly no.
I don't believe your lot in life us determined by birth, we are more than the superficial. You can move up. That aside. The superficial does effect your outcomes to a degree, in relation to the value you provide.
Like I don't meet some girls superficial type but often times still have a shot because I'm good in other areas. Fun, funny, can relate to her where she's at, genuine, have helpful information that can benefit her life without me pushing it on her. And I can sincerely listen.
a lot of that shit isn't as common and that increases the value I offer in her eyes, so with respect to that girl I'm in a higher "league". There aren't leagues in the way people often talk about it.
But there are people who have higher value to you specifically than others based on your wants and desires. Humans have a lot of overlapping desires so there are commonly generally attractive people, but many outside that scope that provide in other areas have higher league value in the eyes of certain people.
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u I don't accept the idea of leagues. I have dated women much more attractive than me and I have dated women less attractive than me. I have been attracted to women who I knew, by objective standards, were not considered attractive by other guys.
4.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. In some situations I do.
"I WANT A PERSON WHO IS A HARD WORKER, SMELLS GOOD, AND EARNS A LOT"
Same person saying this has no job, doesn't bother to look for one either, and gives up on anything that takes some level of effort, also doesn't know what personal hygiene means
An extreme example perhaps, but in this situation I would say 'the person you want to date is out of your league'
No not at all. I'm very popular at school, I'm friends with everyone, I know plenty of popular guys. I'm currently in a relationship with a guy who isn't as popular, kinda hangs out with his close circle. Definitely not in the same "social class" in school. Our relationship is great, we're both very happy. He's the best guy I could've asked for. Nobody is better than another person because they're more attractive or popular.
People don't believe in it, but just watch how they behave. I have not seen too many stunningly pretty women marrying an ugly poor short guy. There is always an exception, but the rule pervails. Just ask any short, ugly poor dude. Heck, even his dog is having second thoughts...
Yeah, I do. People like to pretend physical attraction isn't a thing or that ugly people date attractive people all the time, but reality tells otherwise. I'm short and ugly. I would be willing to talk to girls "above my league,' but I know the chances of success are slim. Women are not attracted to short, overweight, dark-skinned, ugly dudes. It just is what it is. I don't really blame them. Just wish they were more honest about it, instead of BS'ing.
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Yes, but not just in terms of physical beauty, but everything that makes up that person.
In the sense that if someone of the two feels heavily inferior to the other, or the other way around, the relationship becomes full of tension, I agree that this should not be an issue, but it is in many relationships. And most of the reasons are "he's much smarter than me", "she's much more beautiful than me", "he's much richer than me", "she's much cooler than me" etc.
The state-dependent choice theory suggests that females with lower qualities prefer males with lower qualities instead of males with higher qualities:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_intrasexual_competition#High_genetic_quality_of_the_males -
Of course I believe in leagues, Give me 1 example of a good looking person in a relationship with a butt ugly person. It does not happen.
This does not count for rich people as they can basically purchase someone that is out of their league. For normal people, yes there are leagues. - Anonymous(18-24)
Yes, I do because sometimes there are people that are just not attractive at all, okay looking but not butt ugly, or there's some really attractive people. Sometimes I see a really gorgeous girl with an unattractive guy and I'm just like damn she could do better in my opinion or the other way around.
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Leagues aren’t standardized. I’ve never been with a woman that people didn’t think was out of my league. As average or below as I am I’ve dated and been engaged to chicks that did porn and were models.
Women aren’t worth what they think they’re worth so they rely on leagues for their self worth. -
Yeah I do. I wouldn’t expect Kate Upton to say yes and go out on a date with me. She likes tall men who are rich. I’m 5’9 doing my masters in public policy and most likely work in law or the government but I won’t be “rich”. So yeah there are girls who have “leagues”.
Only guys have leagues, girls aren't generally as superficial. Which is probably part of the reason they end up with scumbags.
Ladies, if he won't make himself presentable to go out, you should probably not give him the time of day.1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes I do. I know there are guys who would never date me and I also would never date certain kinds of men.
I don't believe that anyone can be attracted to me, especially since I'm black. Not even black men are attracted to black women these days.WHY NOT?
Majority of people only want to have sex and make out rather than actual deep bond.
So yes LEAGUE MATTERS.
It's so unfair if an ugly, liar and dull person wants to f**k with a beautiful, honest and popular person and they start to emotionally manipulate that beautiful person. So yes you should have standards. Ugly people are ONLY LOYAL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
Date a beautiful person because despite having many options they're still loyal to you!No, & the older you get the less that matters, in my opinion anyway; it becomes much more important that you're compatible & able to communicate effectively with one another.
I don't have league. I have types.
If she is my type, thank you very much.
If she is not, I can still be attracted to her.
League is just another way some people satisfy their hubris.- 8.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
absolutely. and i think everyone who deneis it, is a snoflake. there are "leagues". of course there are rare exceptions to all rules in life. exceptions don't disprove the rule.
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no not really. u can get anybody if your money right, your funny and interesting or you got high status.
I've seen fat dudes and skinny nerds with model looking chicks - 3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
Yes leagues are true but you can cross them to some extent and leagues are not physical looks they are the whole package. Jeff bezos i dont think girls find beautiful but his league is perfect 10 girls because of his wealth and power for example.
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No but I do believe that some pretty girls date guys that are wayyyy too ugly for them and then they treat them like shit which I don’t understand
- Anonymous(25-29)
Yes i do. So i would never approach very handsome guys since i would be too ugly to them. I care about height but fortunately tall men with ugly/average face exist lool and men my age are very tall anyway
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