Any guys out there who got their self esteem destroyed because of dating apps?

[Anonymous]

I used to think I'm a good looking guy, and I would seen as a good looking guy in my real life. But since i decided to go on tinder/bumble my life is fucked. Very rarely I get a match, I think tinder is for those who are extremely attractive, mostly women told me I'm good looking but short, 5'7, where I never thought about this before at all. My self esteem is gone below ground because of this tinder thing. Is there anybody who thinks that tinder has affected them?

[AmorgansHorse]

Dont let it control you there are several factors at play here man. Firstly your pictures probably suck meaning bad angles not smiling or bad clothes. Women are harsh on that man it's super important online. Secondly your profile is probably poorly written this can really hurt if you truly wanna online date then hire a ghost writer that can help. Finally to be honest you probably aren't perfect and if online helped you realize that like it did me it can put you on the path to being better. For example I'm hitting the gym now. I hope to get a better body and a number face. If that doesn't work I'll get surgery. Also if your not tall and it sounds like your not that can be an issue although not a deal killer. I am 5' 10" and am considering height surgery to be 6 foot. Many things you can do or you can do nothing keep being you and shut down the online garbage.

[AmorgansHorse]

Also your messages if they suck it's a non starter make sure to be clever and base it on the profile. Also statistics show women get so many messages they may not have seen it and also men only get about a 25 percent response rate in average anyway.

[Asker]

What's up with the surgeries man?

[AmorgansHorse]

Just something I wanna do for myself not a huge deal. Probably wouldn't do the height one but yeah man I would consider the face get some lipo I dont mean major surgery in that area.

[AmorgansHorse]

None of this was meant as an insult it's just most men myself included have this issue on the online dating. J think the best is match. com or bumble if your going online though.

[AmorgansHorse]

Also I am not that good looking I said average or above average so I was directing hostility wmtowards tou just information I got from other sources online of people who critiqued my absolute garbage profile. I got 0 hits on tinder, one on bumble, and too many to count on okcupid but they went nowhere.

[AmorgansHorse]

*I think I am average or above average so I was not*

[AmorgansHorse]

*towards you*

[Anonymous]

I did. Wasn't on tinder though, where you'd expect that sort of shit- was on sites like eHarmony instead. 175cm, mixed-race half-Indian half-Black. All I ever got was every non-Indian girl racially abusing me and deriding me as some pathetic disgusting sub-human shrimp with a tiny dick (which happens to be 8" length by 6" girth, but none of them would've believed me if I'd told them anyway, and unlike EVERYONE accuses off the bat, JUST CAUSE I'M PART INDIAN DOESN'T MEAN I SEND DICK PICS) for being half-Indian, and every Indian girl racially abused me and derided me even more as some pathetic disgusting sub-human untouchable beast-man for being half-Black. Every woman in this world is a superficial judgmental racially supremacist biased prejudiced piece of shit, bar none. And I give up on them all.

[Anonymous]

It happens a lot. To me too I'm a girl on tinder been on for a while and only gotten a handful of matches.. I get told I'm pretty but it's not enough I guess lol. You can't let the apps determine your worth it's really exhausting. You don't wanna match with shallow people who go for looks, do you? It's really tough meeting people irl like no one talks to anyone any more it's all through social media and online so it's tough when you don't get the attention you want. But I always see it as "do I need it? Why do I need to feel validation from a bunch of strangers? Who I probably will never meet." This usually works for a day or two but then you fall back into the am I not right enough. I guess you just gotta stay positive and if it's really bad maybe take a break?

[jennifer_bloom]

I had 19 guys hit on me in my first 80 seconds on a dating app but I didn't message a single guy back because I don't trust strangers online. I would rather date and marry somebody I see and talk to on a regular basis so I can make sure they are trustworthy and won't hurt me.

[PillowThief]

Two of them disliked your comment. 😂

[Asker]

I disliked because why would you even go online if you don't wanna meet them or talk to them? 😂😂 wasting others time

[PillowThief]

Damn, that entitlement. If that's your angle, then has it occurred to you that maybe you being an incel might be why you're struggling? 😉

[PillowThief]

Also, the risk in sending a message to someone in that context will always be, first and foremost, that it will be wasted effort. Responding isn't obligatory, nor is thinking with anything but your dick. Biased argument. Boring.

[MarkTheory]

Lol then why go on a dating app

[MarkTheory]

@pilliwthief you're saying I may be an incel because I don't see the point in downloading a dating app if you don't trust strangers online?

[Desconhecida]

Any guy who cares about dating apps already had no self esteem before

[Asker]

Explain

[brittslitt]

I have to agree

[billy937]

Correct

[brittslitt]

he's trolling

[Desconhecida]

My answer is clear enough.

[billy937]

No... I ain't

[brittslitt]

Dude the anon

[Desconhecida]

Jesus take the wheel for this guy's life ~~ Amen!

• Read • Read • Read • Read •

Eventually you figure out.

[brittslitt]

I know the men on gag are pathetic. like jesus christ one dude can't read and the other has self esteem issues

[Desconhecida]

Hahahahah OMG...🤣🤣

They seem "special", yes.😅

[brittslitt]

Lol and they wonder why they can't get a girl🙄

[BrokenEmpathy]

I could set up a catfish profile with your obscene cleavage to compare the validation I'd get with a realistic average man's pic

[Desconhecida]

I just reported you. I don't do threats or argue with idiots who start personal offenses for lack of reasonable arguments.

You are garbage.

[BrokenEmpathy]

I don't see where I made any offense or threat, darling.

Anyone can get their pic catfished online.

[BrokenEmpathy]

The whole point here is that experiment has been done plenty of times and can show how women can get validated for nothing on dating sites while men get told to man up and stop being ridiculous just like you all did with OP.

[brittslitt]

@Desconhecida which comment did you report? so I can report him too and get him deleted quicker.

[brittslitt]

And what did you report it as harrassment or trolling so I can do it

[BrokenEmpathy]

Way to play victims for nothing, but there you go. Keep acting irrationally instead of actually addressing the point.

[brittslitt]

I reported he's weird stalkerish

[Desconhecida]

Harassment. And I reported his threat: "I could set up a catfish profile with my ~obscene cleavage ~ for validation.." and more idiotic attempts to intimidate me.

~ It's a serious red flag.

[brittslitt]

Good , I'll report it too. i deleted is remarks on my comment. He's volatile

[brittslitt]

No one even follows this guy

[brittslitt]

Hopefully they'll delete his account

[Desconhecida]

Let's hope. 🤜🤛💋

[BrokenEmpathy]

And nothing's gonna happen where there's no crime.

You're not as special as you think you are. Just keep proving my point on being pampered.

[BrokenEmpathy]

Also, if you feel offended for describing that kind of picture as "obscene", not even personally addressed at you, the problem is yours again.

I guess this is what happens when you live in tutorial mode until you get told how real life works.

[BrokenEmpathy]

Blame me all you want for it, but I can bet the real threat won't announce itself nor be as sincer as I'm being here. Not being unbiased is again the product of your own inconpetence.

[brittslitt]

Dude go away! as u can see we dont want to be bothered with u. leave us alone

[BrokenEmpathy]

You accuse me of trolling and harassment, you ask me to keep shut instead of defending myself?

Even if I didn't care, this is a public space, you're not owed special treatment nor decide who posts where or who doesn't. Get off your high horse and learn to deal with it.

[brittslitt]

Blocked, you have issues and can't take fuck off for an answer. Bye

[BrokenEmpathy]

Quite the pathetic way to externalize your own faults, but that's a pampered woman for you.

For her age, I'd have hoped a grown up attitude but I can see she can get away with a life in tutorial mode

[PillowThief]

I think either gender ending up on a dating app' or site is probably struggling in some way with either their esteem or more intimate social interactions or both, generally speaking.

[brittslitt]

@pillow she knows that it's possible for both but right now we are focused on the individual asking the question which is male. if it were a woman asking this question we'd say the same thing

[BrokenEmpathy]

@brittslitt The fact you still believe both genders have it equal and project the same "strategy" at both does a great job hiding the charge against males.

I could say you don't have it stellar in the job market to keep the whole developing world, low-wage working class shut about much worse troubles that require systemic solutions but here you are, only thinking about the world you know

[brittslitt]

@BROKEN the fact that your small shrimp dick, lonely broke, ugly bum ass keeps tagging me is sad. It is the weekend.

Get a girlfriend, get some friends, get a job, get some dick enhancement pills, get an education, go find your family. I'm not telling your slow ass again. go drink bleach. you will not be missed by anyone if you die. and hopefully you do die. no one likes you anyway. fuck off freak

[brittslitt]

Go hang yourself

[BrokenEmpathy]

@brittslitt So, instead of sustaining an intelligent, impartial and civilized exchange of ideas after accusing me, you prefer to insult based on how you imagine my life is.

For being 27 years old, I'd seriously worry about being this immature. I'd have taken it way easier if you were a naive teen about the ways of life, but for enjoying close to a decade of granted validation for spreading your legs, I'd have expected you had better human quality over this.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@brittslitt I guess that's one mistake of mine at giving honest opportunities to incapable apes. I'll have to let you go on this, since you're clearly an unaccountable animal with limited capacity to exercise rational thought.

[PillowThief]

Relax Britt, it was a peaceful distinction she didn't make and that wasn't implied. I wasn't having a go. Not everyone in my gender (like this Empathy dude) wants to run some personal attack on random internet women. 😛

[brittslitt]

@pillow I am relaxed.. are u ok? I responded to your response.

[PillowThief]

Chill Empathy. The response was regarding using a dating app', not questioning all of male integrity and certainly not taking a stab at you. Why the volatility?

[PillowThief]

I'm evidently fine. 🙂

[brittslitt]

@pillow the guy is nuts. most likely mentally unstable with no life and trolls for a sport.

[PillowThief]

He certainly hints at it. He seems to be under the impression that his vocabulary shows his intelligence, but he's still here having a pop at someone he doesn't know for no other reason than obviously he's offended. Misdirected rage over a misunderstood problem is hardly befitting of the messiah complex he's got going.

But... then I sound more interested in the argument. I'm not though, and I'm going to dip from it early. I made my contribution. Just have the last word and then block him. It pisses knowitalls off. 😁

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief This is no business with you, buddy, but she told me to kill myself, don't expect to act all bluepilled.

[brittslitt]

@PillowThief ong you're cute lol. i just noticed you pic.. nice hair

[brittslitt]

@pillow I tried blocking him yet still get alerts. the original comment owner @Desconhecida needs to block him so that we won't get his alerts

[PillowThief]

You have been stepping on them both personally before that. Don't be a dick.

This is a public forum. Get used to scrutiny or keep your feelings and opinions to yourself. Someone of your apparent wakefulness should already know that. 😉

And with that said, I'm taking my prior advice. Ciao!

[BrokenEmpathy]

And I'm not sure where are you getting this know-it-all troll bs, but again, that's up to your own perception.

The lady had its chance to get off her horse and put her ideas to test, she rather prefered going ape-shit crazy at me. Funniest part is that some anon in this thread commented on his own catfishing experiments and the amusing results he got, it doesn't take a genius to check for more elsewhere if not doing it yourself, see-to-believe.

No one can force you to drop your idealistic nonsense, there's no such thing as a messiah complex or whatever from anyone but you Holy-advice givers. You save yourselves or you keep in the bubble.

[PillowThief]

Have you messaged her? I wonder why she didn't, he's deranged. xD

[brittslitt]

I know I'm going to see if I can get ahold of her. weve both reported him but unfortunately he's still here. ill have to inbox a mod

[PillowThief]

I'm an atheist y' daft cunt. x'D The hypocrisy is real with you mate.

[PillowThief]

Well, I dropped the C-bomb so a mod's bound to get shivers about it and delete the responses entirely. 😎

[PillowThief]

It's sad. I can feel him typing furiously.

[brittslitt]

😭😭😭🤣🤣😭you are hilarious

[PillowThief]

Glad I could entertain! 😁

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Being an atheist has little to do with the original point or whiteknighting milady's incapacity to handle herself, buddy.

I'm not one to tell you or a daddy's girl how to cope with cognitive dissonances, that tells more about your own lack of capacity to put yourself in other people's shoes (good news, though: you both can self improve yourselves in there).

[brittslitt]

@pillow the insecure weirdo with a pic of a Bob the builder pic is telling is what to do 😭🤣🤣

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief I could as well gather enough evidence to report milady's suicide encouraging replies, but I'm not gonna do it mostly because I pity her. I can imagine being allowed to get what she wants a whole life, and I know it's hard to change being that way, she might wish me death but I only wish her a healthy change.

[brittslitt]

@pillow mr crazy is still talking lol

[PillowThief]

Bah, I thought perhaps when I taunted him he would exercise some of that IQ to backspace whatever wall of bollocks he was writing. 🤔

[brittslitt]

🤣🤣🤣

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Again on the personal, talks big on your own butthurt for siding with a lost cause.

Deal with it, not because you thinks others are dicks it makes their point invalid or gives you moral authority to play soyboy whiteknight. There's no such thing as karma in here, and the lady's a grown up who should be able to behave like so.

[PillowThief]

This is public. It's hardly personal, sugardick. But I'm happy you're taking offense to something I'm saying. You're giving me more ammunition to boycott your whiney incel ass. I don't so much as have moral authority over you as I do moral supremacy, if you'll overlook the audacity. And karma isn't needed and wasn't mentioned.

If you want to sit there, angrily typing out nonsensical shitspam messages in the name of the holy cause of aLL wOmEn ARe EvIL to someone you aren't going to win anything against (bar perhaps proving yourself the bigger arsehole)... then you go right on ahead my dude. If I can't stop you messaging back, I'll continue to belittle the living shit out of you until you submit the way you submit to such a fake philosophy as 'all women have it easy in dating.' If the idea of this sounds pathetic of you, then I urge you to take a long pause to reconsider what you're doing with your time. Call me a hypocrite, but I'll give you my reason for investment: I relish annoying the hell out of arrogant, ignorant and frankly weird trolls.

Your move. 🙃

[PillowThief]

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief This is not hypocrisy but sheer cringe you're showing here, hopefully you'll grow up and learn being more constructive someday.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Just consider this: perhaps you're being arrogant at assuming the poor, weak lady needs protection, asides the lady herself for thinking her answers are the last truth I dared to question with a triggering post.

[PillowThief]

I contributed everything I felt I wanted to the relevant subject in my first message. What's cringey, sweetheeks, is that you keep responding despite all indication that you're an irritant and in disagreement with everyone here. Granted, the sight of you being boycotted is cringey. The process of it, mind you, not me for deciding to do it until you fuck off or the OP blocks you. That's just dedication. But, I'm not going to go out of my way to disable notifications that I'm otherwise happy to tap on every now and then just because one social justice warrior is suffering from ligma.

[brittslitt]

@pillow looks like dudes met his match. u dont back down for nothing 😭🤣🤣

[PillowThief]

For the record, I think she defended herself well enough. I just like not having to cringe when I see your name yet again on my notification tray.

[brittslitt]

@BROKEN he's not arrogant dudes a genius. you're just mad because he's out smarting you. you look dumb dude

[PillowThief]

Him when I fire a shot. 😂

[brittslitt]

Pahahahahhahahhah ahahahhahah🤣🤣😆😆😆😆

[brittslitt]

I'm fucking dying rn

[PillowThief]

Me when I see his name on a notification.

[brittslitt]

😭😆😆😆😆 lmao

[PillowThief]

@brittslitt
Can you feel him typing? I think he's pumped! Puuuumped!

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Man, I can't help but feeling really sorry for your biased sense of justice, but I can't help you grow out of it.

Regarding the lady's, if you think an adult response is calling others to kill themselves, buddy, you're more than welcome to ask professionals about it, they'll just give you euphemisms for what I can label right here as a load of bullshit.

Help yourself before you regret it, I'm not talking about this conv or myself, but at what you gonna think of your own ideas some years from now. You might be surprised where are you getting into.

[brittslitt]

Omg you were right 😆😆😭look at this dude

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
You lost all credibility when you suggested making a catfish of her accounts. Using her likeness to try to prove something. And what is it you'd prove? Nada, because it's one test, one experiment. Bad science wouldn't stop you from preaching your shit, though, ah? What's laughable about this is that a lot of men get it easy on dating app's, too. Just because you've blatantly suffered failure in that respect it doesn't mean that women are to blame, because that's what this is, really. You want to blame women for your own shortcomings.

On that note, have you read the things you'v- of course you have. You're stupid enough to keep responding, after all, and the walls of text you write are enormous considering the lack of substance they contain - so you must love the sight of your own writing.

Off the tangent, though, have you genuinely considered that the way you're acting out right now might be why people like you aren't successful on dating sites? Your entire type is self-entitlement.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
And you don't threaten me. I can deal with cowardly incels any time of day. :)

[brittslitt]

Exactly and I've told the dumbass @BROKEN to leave me the fuck alone. but he never shuts tf up

[brittslitt]

He has no life apparently

[PillowThief]

Word Count: IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND

[brittslitt]

😭😆😆😆lmao

[PillowThief]

I can't take him seriously anymore, so I've found a English to Scottish slang translator that I'll use to type all of my responses to him hereafter. If that doesn't tell him he's wasting his time, I don't know what will. :D

[brittslitt]

😭😆😆lol

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Didn't even say I'd actually do it, yet another dimwitted assumption. Do you think a person who actually intends to catfish someone gives a warning or anything in advance? Where's your common sense, damn.

I've not threaten you anywhere, this is your own insecurity getting further triggered by the abusive whore. I'm not joking when I say I pity you for letting yourself be used like this.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Yoo're naethin' but a wee incel. thes conversation is pointless. discussin' anythin' remotely intelligent wi' ye is a waste ay time. yoo've got yer een wide shut an' ye cannae tak' bein' in th' wrang. aam nae sayin' 'at tois wrongs dornt make a reit, but ye started thes. ye coods hae jist left yer opinion an' hae moved oan. Dae ye kin whit aam sayin'? Ya fuckin' ned.

[BrokenEmpathy]

Anyways, if you're an atheist or at least agnostic, I just can hope someday you might critically question your own ideas instead of calling others stupid, your arrogant attitude is what, among others, alienates people into believing stuff like flat earth or jew conspiracies. You're part of a problem and not a solution, and if there's something scary about you is that you're not in a position where you can take charge for it yet. Like a monkey with a knife.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Nae. Ah question mah ain ideas aw th' time. e'en if Ah didne, ye cooldnae use 'at tae shield yer ain precioos opinion. th' objectife reality haur is 'at yoo're an incel, ye dornt loch 'at some kimmers ur quickly successful wi' datin', an' ye dornt loch nae bein' th' best. gie wi' reality sunshine, yoo'll feel better abit yerself.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Ad hominem childish answer, considering I'm not even talking for myself here but for your shitty attitude against the OP.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Ye shoods check mah ain threid fur mah intial, non-prejudicial response tae th' asker, an' mah initial response tae thes particular threid if ye want mah initially relevant opinion. an' yoo're reit, Ah am singlin' ye it. ye try tae gab th' gab but ye jist cannae wrap yer heed aroond bein' th' only twat haur askin' tae be boycotted. yoo're obvioosly nae readin' whit aam sayin'.

yoo're a radge, keyboard warriur incel, tryin' tae compensate fur ye ain shortcomings.

[BrokenEmpathy]

In case you want to drop the virtue signalling whiteknight behavior "da ztupid inkels kahnt blaim wombatz" , consider a frequently misunderstood point about incels is that you can only take conscious, personally accountable charge of what you control (and we do, for much your personal butthurt prefers to cherrypick and indulge your confirmation bias), but that doesn't mean denying or covering your eyes when there are external, systemic and natural hierarchies (either biological or cultural) rigging the outcomes. Regardless of whether those hierarchies are inevitable or not, forcing your liberal meritocratic sense of personal responsibility will only further reproduce ingrained inequities.

Perhaps you could drop your condescending focus on empathizing with worldviews but taking a look at objective, external realities to individuals that yet affect them.

[BrokenEmpathy]

For someone who seems in the political left and pretends to care for justice and empathy, you might as well consider it for people you're intially biased because their challenge your sense of right or wrong.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Swatch he's still talkin' mair jobby! he's an encyclopaedia ay talkin' jobby! thaur is naethin' ye can teach me dude. Ah dornt want tae soond vain, but aam waaaay aheid ay ye.

[PillowThief]

Och, noo we're talkin' politics! when did 'at become relevant? it didne. yoo're an incel. incel, whiney git. yoo're nae ootspoken, ye jist hink attemptin' tae (incorrectly, min' yoo) analysin' me is gonnae win ye some brownie points.

[PillowThief]

It's amazin' 'at yoo're actually willin' tae keep 'spikin yer min' despite aw indication 'at Ah divne gie a shite.

[brittslitt]

Seriously can you guys stop! the alerts are aggravating

[PillowThief]

@brittslitt
I can confirm he's a moron. Nobody in their right mind wastes so much time trying to speak to someone who is so blatant and open about taking the piss. :D

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief It's morally gratifying to feel I can do better than to keep on insulting people that think different to me : )

[BrokenEmpathy]

@brittslitt You're not owed a stop, sweetie.

[brittslitt]

@juicyjessie how can I get @brokenempathy out of my alerts? I've blocked this guy several times, he makes new accounts, and then harrasses people under anon

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Ye remin' me ay thes guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-gQ3aAdhIo

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Ah pure techt, Ah try tae keep thes funay, but there's nae escapin' that's exactly th' kin' ay mentality 'at yoo're currently showin'. ur ye gonnae lose it? some wood say yoo've awreddy tint it.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@brittslitt I've not made alt accs nor anything alike. You might as well just be making up ever blocking me, or the site is buggy.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief If anything, I can see a pampered white kid like you much closer to become a disgusting murderer by this point. You don't give a single shit about others.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Wrang. Ah dornt gie a jobby abit entitled scumbags loch ye. yoo've dain naethin' but harp oan wi' unfoonded, unsubstantial jobby. ye ahvenae ance stopped tae consider 'at ye micht jist be playin' th' harassment card jist coz ye can. an' yoo're still respondin' tae me? imagine 'at. yoo're nae sane mah mukker. anyain wi' a clear min' woods donner awa' frae trollin' as obvioos as thes, but ye bide jist fur th' belittlement. yoo've naethin' tae prove but yer ain idiocy in daein' 'at. moreowre, if ye truly dornt pure caur whit aam sayin', 'en wa respond at aw? Ah hink Ah burst a nerve ay yoors bonnie stoaner, an' that's wa yoo're still strugglin' tae lit thes gang an' gie oan wi' yer crabbit life.

[brittslitt]

@BROKEN you need a life and you are definitely broken. just kill yourself already

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Jeez, and it's me the one who is supposed to type furiously investing all this effort for what? Defending a cheeky bitch who's gonna forget you tonight as she spreads her legs for some random alpha?

Buddy, again, I'm not picking on you because you truly make me sad, this is pathetic. I feel good about helping people in shit, just as much as feeling in the right when people start insulting me for stating uncomfortable stuff, but you gotta rethink and use your first world privilege for better.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@brittslitt I'm not reporting you for reiterated suicide calls either because I don't consider you morally capable on reflecting your own immaturity.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Dae they hae unicorns in 'at fantasy lain ay yoors, an aw? yoo're nae helpin' anyain it. yoo're haur wastin' yer ain time. nobody haur wants yer lessons, jesus. wa nae up an' buck it? there's a guid laddie.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Hmm, such a pessimistic view about yourself reminds me of what your kind likes to critcize on incels as a self defeating attitude. Of course, that assuming you were able to scrutinize yourself.

You could've simply ignored my replies and moved on, but instead you prefer to keep insulting me after being unable to elaborate a serious, intellectually honest position.

[PillowThief]

@BrokenEmpathy
Och aye, yoo're damn-straecht abit 'at. as i've said afair, if ye voice yer opinion publicly, ye need tae be prepared fur scrutiny an' disagreement. yoo've neglected 'at, sae yoo're feelin' insulted an' offended. Ah *really* dornt caur abit 'at, sae yoo're barkin' up th' wrang cabre if yoo're lookin' fur some sort ay mircale turn-aroond oan mah position.

Ah agree wi' th' OP ay thes threid. ye dornt. ye need tae swatch at an' tak' yer ain advice: ye cood lae it thaur an' jist accept 'at i'll troll ye if ye keep respondin' tae me. Honestlae, wa wood Ah gab tae ye if ye dornt respond? th' only integrity yoo're showin' is th' integrity ay yer apparent total insanity in wantin' tae kep talkin' tae me.

Ah ken thes isnae enjoyable fur ye. 'at Ah dornt caur shood be enaw fur ye tae caa it quits in thes conversation - if we're tae e'en glorify it as a conversation onie mair. Yoo're a hypocrite an' ye dornt possess th' moral standin' ur willpower tae donner awa'. yoo're what's wrang wi' society.

Shaw some ay 'at real integrity an' gonnae-no respondin'. be th' bigger cheil, if that's hoo it'll make ye feel. gie up.

[PillowThief]

Scotland wins is the only final say here.

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief Your behavior speaks otherwise about your own capacity to dealing with different opinions, but I won't make you grow up from night to day, that's true.

I'm not feeling an urge to stop giving you attention, but I won't miss you if you walk out either. Sorry, that choice is on you, given you feel so taunted to prove yourself : ).

[BrokenEmpathy]

@PillowThief You might make of me a devil all you want, oddly enough same time I try seeing the good in you. That's not gonna be a healthy approach for you as years pass, though. You can learn one way or another, I'm giving you another two cents.

[BrokenEmpathy]

Hopefully we didn't bother milady's random hookup n° 1334634 with our shitty alert noise, by the way. The poor victim must've had a terrible time getting interrupted while on her "erotically recreational activities".

[englisc]

You shouldn't let it destroy your self-esteem. As others have said, get off of the apps.

Online dating sites are almost all heavily based on superficial attractiveness, i. e. looks. There are differences between different sites though.

On sites like POF, Match, OKCupid, perhaps a little less so because people read profiles there, so what you write there can make a difference. I'm a 5'4" guy, yet I dated quite a few from POF and met my girlfriend of 6 years on there.

Sites like Tinder however are from what I understand based on "swipe left/right" based mainly on pictures. People make faster decisions on there than on the other dating sites such as POF.

So on POF, maybe you're not a tall amazing looking guy, but the girl is gonna read your profile before making a decision. If you write intelligently, in a funny way, and you intrigue her in that way, it matters less that you're a short-ass. Not so on Tinder.

So, these women turn you down entirely based on your height/looks. They know nothing else about you. They don't know shit.

There's so much that is missed online that you see in real life. Anybody who has done the online dating thing will have stories about people who seemed amazing online, but when they met in person they were really weird, had bitchh/asshole/unpleasant personalities, looked nothing like their picture etc. I met a few of those.

In person you see the other person's real social skills, their mannerisms, their body language, you hear their voice, you see the real person. Even if you approach a stranger they're gonna listen for a minute to see what you're about, rather than see your picture for a second and swipe. Attraction is about more than just looks, it's also all the above, the way you act.

This is why if you're confident enough, or willing to work to become confident which is doable, meeting people in person is much easier than going online.

If you really must use online for some reason, just don't use a site like Tinder.

Rather than let this lower your self-esteem you just have to figure out a way around it. Being short is a disadvantage but it doesn't mean you're screwed. As long as you go about it the right way, the smart way, and don't wallow in self-pity, you'll do fine. Plenty of short guys do fine.

[stilllanuagthtboy]

Yes I certainly are 12 months ago I have a stroke with just left me I will soar walk properly I have to walk with a stick also my left arm don't work at all I might as well cut it off but I chat to women on the site and I get on well with them to appoint where we both like to meet up in person so I have to tell them that I have health problems and I have to walk with the aid of a stick yeah that's it I don't get any more messages from them and they don't reply to mine and that so that rejection really does take you down and it says take your confidence and self esteem and there's nothing happened 6 or 7 times but I bounce back and yes so it does happen but I might be an exceptionally panther don't know

[the_face_of_god]

Yes, mate. I'm on five apps, and I'm 6ft with an accent. And I get either fugly, lives miles away, or never wants to fucking talk. What's strange is that I get complimented on my looks all the time in real life. I always see girls check me out, and have no problem attracting girls in real life, but I'm a lazy bastard that likes to stay in with a drink and a nice chat. Not party all night.

I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure you're a handsome bloke, but I think girls are just very specific about what they are into on an app, but less so in real life, because I know I've swiped right on a bunch of girls on multiple apps, like 5 or above. My standard aren't that high. Lol

[Anonymous]

Don't beat yourself up. I was a catfish on such apps on numerous occasions. I would take super good looking guys, sometimes even models and use their pictures. Furthermore, I would swipe right every girl. No exceptions, no criteria. I rarely got a match with good looking girls, and even those I did manage to match with, had the personality of a potato, and had no interest to go any further. I got good reactions only from average or even ugly girls. The sad truth is most good looking girls open profiles there just to blow smoke up their own asses and to stroke their ego by observing the amount of desperate guys that swipe them right.

[Anonymous]

Oh yeah! I didn't have much to begin with but then go on those and it'll make sure there's none in no time lol. Complete waste of time. All apps or dating sites. Don't you love people though that say go meet them in real life, but you ask how/where and they don't answer! lol Because they don't know either!

[Glue-Sniffer]

It's not that no one knows. There are quite a few dating sites where you have to pay a membership which are less about hooking up and more about dating.
But meeting people in real life literally can happen anywhere. I personally met my partner in grad school. But telling the poster to go to grad school is quite impractical.
Asking friends to introduce you to their single friends, joining single events, joining different clubs or courses, getting active in community events, etc are all means to meet someone. It's just too board to tell someone go meet your future partner there and there. The only thing they have to keep in mind is that they should be open to meet different people. They will potentially meet someone and if not they might meet a new friend.

[Opinion Owner]

@Glue-Sniffer I hear you. But what if you live in a small town in the middle of nowhere? I'll run through some of your examples, single's events - none. Friends - all married with families, they don't have single friends etc Clubs, courses events, very few around and of them, either NO interests what's so ever in them, or, can't go for one reason or another (schedule).

I totally get what you're saying though, you can meet them anywhere, but it's so hard. People make it sound easy, but it's not (maybe if you live in a big city?). Everyone I meet in my day to day life is married or with someone. And, if there are single ones, they don't advertise it. That's when you begin to think online is an option (sounds good right), nope! lol

[PillowThief]

Take my advice dude: quit dating applications. Invest your time into doing something you enjoy around other people and network on normal social platforms. Don't network on something so specific as a dating site or app'. They're bottomless pits of disappointments waiting to happen.

[ecfresh]

The source of my self esteem comes from faith and family. This is an endless source of happiness and confidence and I know I am a good and quality person. I would not let something like apps bring me down. In addition I realize all the fakeness and unauthentic behavior on those apps and prefer interacting with people in real life.

[AndrewMG]

I think my self esteem is the reason I don't go on dating apps, I realise I do better talking one to one with people/meeting friends than I do making conversation with a total stranger where I know I'd become the worse kind of introverted. Each to their own though, what's right for me is almost certainly not necessarily right for someone else, hence I'd never judge anyone who uses that as there preferred dating option.

[Anonymous]

I'm pretty in real life and get hit on daily basis until now, yet I look weird in pictures.

I tried dating app for fun at 22 and got my self esteem lowered by the type of guys interested in me as if I'm damaged goods.
I got off online and kept it face to face.

[Asker]

10 years ago? Really? I don't think tinder was out at the time. And low self esteem is because when women pass certain age of 28, they get anxious because of lowered sexual market value.

[Opinion Owner]

It wasn't tinder but I can't remember what was it anymore.

Low self esteem is something internal. Even pretty people can have it and feel inadequate while keep comparing themselves to others.
It's not age dependent. I have higher self esteem than my twenties me.

[patrickstarz]

What were the type of guys? Let me guess black guys

[Opinion Owner]

No. Old or desperate guys.
Too much flirting in a nauseous way.

[emmily2396]

Well, i swipe left on 90% of guys because they arrme either unnattractive or I can't tell how they look from their pictures. If you wear sunglasses in every pic, you don't have a photos that show your face as well as an id card does and there is no full body picture your chances of getting match are pretty low.

[hellacray]

All dating sites and apps are never in the guy's favor. It's basically a buffet for women and why choose an average guy when they can choose a tall handsome one with no personality.

If you must use a dating service I'd say at least use one where you can meet someone in person like speed dating.

[spartan55]

Man, trying being single in your 20's (when the internet was in it's infancy for me), then go 'away' for 10 years. Get divorced and come back to this car crash dating scene in your 40's.
You have it easy junior.

[purplepoppy]

Often wondered the same question myself. It must be heart breaking to know that thousands of single people have viewed your profile but none of them have selected you.

[Asker]

You're a girl in the feminism world, nothing is gonna hurt you my love.

[purplepoppy]

I'm not a feminist

[Asker]

Doesn't matter. Everything is your favour just because you're a female.

[brittslitt]

Girl it's a troll

[Asker]

@brittslit, girl you got a lot of time

[patrickstarz]

Brit gets white privilege and she's going everywhere at every post defending these racist ass white men

[brittslitt]

I'm Mexican 🤣😭

[patrickstarz]

A white Mexican isn't Mexican. It's a fake and phony Mexican. Society sees you as a white girl. Your family made you a white girl by getting with white skin guys, and excluded dark skin Mexicans from getting the females pregnant. Why? Because Mexicans wanted to be white because they were sick of racism and they were sick of getting judged by white people, so they wanted a change. God made you brown, and a person of color by your family. wanted you to be a different way because they hate their natural skin color. You are not Mexican, you are a white girl tried in a beautiful Mexicans body

[patrickstarz]

Brit prob hoes on the dating sites just to find a white man.

[patrickstarz]

Doesn't matter what race you are if you have a very light complexion you still get white privilege because white people see you as their own, white people see you as white.

[Asker]

I'm not white, I'm an Asian guy

[patrickstarz]

If you're talking to me, I was talking about brit

[brittslitt]

Nice try dude 🤣😭

[brittslitt]

Actually no my mom is very dark lol

[brittslitt]

she's a mohaka

[brittslitt]

🤣😭nice try tho.. really nice try

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it does that.

That’s what it is to be a guy trying to use dating apps — unless you’re godly attractive.

Conversely for women it’s generally an ego boost. It’s extremely common for women to swipe *only* for the ego boost and not put any effort into actually meeting someone they’ve matched with. That’s the most common reason women cite for using tinder and such.

Best to leave that shit alone rather than be dead inside.

[Glue-Sniffer]

Then stop using tinder. Why didn't this occur to you?

[Asker]

I don't know where else to meet women?

[Glue-Sniffer]

See, this is your problem. You just wanna meet a bunch of girls to hook up with. So you don't get to be picky here.
Tinder and other swiping apps are for hooking up. If yku really want to date someone at least join a real dating site.

[Asker]

I don't want to hook up. What real dating sites are there?

[brittslitt]

Dude has low self esteem

[emmily2396]

Do you realise that Tinder is actually a dating app? If some use it for hook ups that doesn't mean that is the purpose of it. Also, you may not have many options in other places of the world. Some dating apps may not have enough people you can choose from, so you stick with what is popular

[Glue-Sniffer]

@emmily2396 i have used tinder myself when it was still new in 2014. I was under the impression that it was a dating app but I soon found out that nost people were just looking for a quick hook up. It was primarily a hook up app back then and it still is. You might find one or two misguided simpletons such as myself on there who are actually looking for a real date for a potential relationship but that's the proverbial looking for a needle in a haystack.

[BrokenEmpathy]

Cliched "all men are horny hook up hunters I want something serious", yet looks down any man looking for that as "insecure and clueless".

[capncool]

I lost 25lbs, got a nice haircut, and took more recent pictures on Tinder and it took me from 1 match every 1-2 weeks maybe to 1-2 matches every day. If anything it made me feel awesome.

[Asker]

Love you man!

[capncool]

Love you too no homo <3

[Anonymous]

My advice: date and make connection with people you you meet in daily life. I don't use dating app.

[Asker]

Where do you meet people?

[magicInABox]

Best advice ever. @asker Talk to a girl in real life and make it happen! THANKS FOR SAYING THIS

[Asker]

Where do you meet those real life girls?

[magicInABox]

I was never hot or sexy like other guys and honestly after a while i never really engaged with girls. During that time i focused on work and career and just generally respecting people and learning more about myself. Over time i found that more girls would talk to me and yes it was hard to make conversations. But as i grew and had more and more female friends, then i got to go to events and parties when that female circle grew and grew. Not every girl will engage with you but that's ok... they don't have too. Eventually it just happens. Don't actively just pursue women. Show then that you are strong, independent, healthy and willing to grow. I will find it hard if no women recognizes that. Hope it helps bro. Chin up

[Opinion Owner]

@magicInABox so true! That's how I met my husband. In real life, people will be able to see you more than just at the superficial level. Honestly, a guy doesn't need to be model lookimg to attract female attention like on dating app. Your great personality will make female to get attracted to you -- "strong, independent, healthy and willing to grow". So true!

[Wally48]

@magicInABox... I think you're spot on. My 30yo son has a lifetime friend name Paul. He's 5'4 and mixed race. He's totally buff, a positive thinker, has a good career and is very social. My son says he's buried with dates off social media. Exuding a direct, confident and positive demeanor is huge.

[cavmanier]

@magicInABox Basically you need to have a social life. I've had many women flirt and ask me out in these situations too.

[magicInABox]

@cavmanier @Wally48 Thanks guys. Agreed.

[patrickstarz]

Yes, sometimes I can't look in the mirror. Even ugly and fat black and white women won't respond. I only message them for responses. You got some of the ugliest and fattest butches looking for a man way better looking than her. Than black bitches can be on there for centuries and still not find Mr wonderful

[patrickstarz]

Im not embarrassed either. IDGAF

[patrickstarz]

I used to think every girl wanted me but now I'm thinking I'm ugly and a loser. POF and tinder were the dating apps I've used and it scarred self esteem for life. I felt like ending my life at times. Most of the girls on there are searching for a white man. ( Latinas)

[Definitely]

Expect to be judged heavily by your looks if you're going on a dating app, especially on tinder (duh). Tinder is not for meeting your soulmates... It's for meeting a fuck buddy.

[Sweatyotterr]

Women have crazy high standards best to keep your head down and let them come to you

[Cage4]

Hmm i never tried tinder. But i would say try to meet a girl irl. In school college work the girl who lives nearby whatever.

[OvershareGamer]

Don't listen to people online. They are all shallow.

[Anonymous]

I tried tinder a long time ago and got hundreds of matches. However, all of them just seemed to be interested in a casual hookup, not in a relationship.

[Sambelfast85]

Me I did. I used to get called fat and ugly by lots of girls. Worst was small cock which kicked my confidence

[Asker]

Damn, that's sad bro. I'm sorry

[Sambelfast85]

Cheers bro. I let it get to me for a while but since I've had lots more nice compliments about my looks and penis size. A little over 9" so I'm happy enough. Them other girls must have been expecting A lot more.

[Pulimuli]

a lot of men get wrecked by tinder and such apps because you need to look insanely good in your photos for it to work.

You can be good looking irl but if you take shit photos its not gonna work

[Dark93]

No, it's not worth getting upset over what random women I'll never meet or talk to think of me. It'll just make the woman who does notice me even more special.

[ClearCyan]

I get a ton of matches. I just can't get my matches to talk with me 😂

[Cristian97]

Tinder is basically for hookups and shit. You gotta go talk to women and not on dating app because some of those can be guys and they can send you the address to their house and kill you

[lollyboy]

Mine was boosted incredibly more than it should definitley

[Anonymous]

"Just join dating apps, bro"

"Just meet people in real life, bro"

"Just be nice and take a shower, bro"

[StickStickity13]

Women get SWARMED in dating apps. Rarely you get your foot in the door because the competition is fierce. In real life there's less competition

[intjgamer]

Dating apps are basically for the most shallow of people. You have better chances by meeting people the old ways.

[Asker]

How often do you ask you out women in real life?

[zuricose]

People go to tinder to get laid, so you need a good body to get anything on tinder

[Asker]

I have good body and good face just I'm not tall

[zuricose]

Height does matter to women a lot

[Asker]

Yeah that's the problem. I have tall parents like 6 feet and above but I didn't grow tall for some reason.

[zuricose]

You can use a lot of stuff to get taller, there is shit out there for you

[Asker]

Really? I'm 22. Tell me one real shit

[zuricose]

There is this shoe sole that helps

[Lance1965]

Nah, it would take a lot more than a pointless dating app to do that to me.

[NovissimumVirorum]

You can’t destroy that which never existed in the first place

[brittslitt]

Why dont u just get off apps and meet people

[Asker]

Where do I go and meet people? People don't care about height in reality?

[brittslitt]

Are u retarded or just trolling? pathetic

[Asker]

I'm short but not retarded

[brittslitt]

Trolling on a weekend. Wow what a weirdo

[Anonymous]

Same height, same thing. Self esteem is driven into the ground too.

[yyyuuuiii]

Well i lost my sanity. But not my self esteem...

[Anonymous]

You meet them on church

[Asker]

What if one is not Christian? Be one?

[Opinion Owner]

The woman on church would be nice not caring about your status and height I think I don’t you need figure out

[legalboxers]

I gave up on dating. the apps suck

[PrivateJim]

Yes definitely

[Muhammad1999]

I feel you bro