Also... what can average guys do to increase their dating market value? Let us know below.
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Most Helpful Guys
No, I don't think so. There are many things that an average guy can do to increase his success.
When it comes to dating market value:
1) Lift weights
Lifting weights is one of the easiest things a guy can do to improve his success. You don't need to be huge, just get into good shape.
2) Dress better
The average guy dresses like shit. Sometimes they try to dress well but they dress like children or they end up looking gay. Often they also wear clothes that don't fit well.
3) Get a better job. This is an obvious one that most people are already trying to do.
4) Have hobbies if you don't have any. Some kind of sport, martial arts, music, art, outdoor stuff. Whatever you think you'd be genuinely interested in.
Basically you can become slightly above average looking and be viewed as more of a catch if you have other stuff going for you. The average guy works a boring 9-5 job, goes home and watches TV, maybe plays video games, and maybe goes out for a drink at the weekend.
In general though I think that too many guys today focus on "status". Men are naturally more logical than women and this is just an example of that, and I think it's a projection of the male way of thinking onto women. A proper understanding of women and female nature helps a lot, and that means snapping out of this mindset.
It's a bit of an autistic way to look at it too, like some guys think that everything is math. A man has to earn a certain number, a man has to be a certain height, a certain number of men have sex with a certain number of women.
It seems logical that women would want a guy with those things, however attraction doesn't always fit that kind of logic. When I first met my girlfriend I was living at home and I didn't have much money because I'd just quit my old job and started a business. At the time I was driving a beat up little van that cost me £500. Before dating me, she'd gone on a date with a rich guy who showed up wearing designer clothes and drove a brand new sports car. She ended up with me instead.
Autistic red-pillers would be baffled by the above because like I said, they think too logically with everything being math. Women think more emotionally than men do. That guy was higher in status than me, but he was unable to make her FEEL attraction, and the reason she ended up with me despite this was because I was able.
As StingRayxoxo said in her comment average looking guys can have better personalities, be funnier, intelligent, more likeable etc. A girl who isn't just a gold-digger is more likely to choose a man with these traits over a good looking rich guy who does nothing but try to impress her with his money and things, but who otherwise is quite boring or maybe even a bit of a dick. Because those things she mentioned have to do with the way the guy makes her feel.
You've mentioned in response to someone else that women don't NEED men anymore, and I assume that what you mean by this is that women don't need a man to provide for them. This is true. Maybe using things such as wealth worked better in the past than it does now because of this.
Now it's more about emotions. Not so much being this overly sensitive, kiss-ass "nice guy" who "shows her that he cares" with romantic gestures and whatnot. But a guy who is confident, who can make her laugh, perhaps challenge her a little bit, tease her, create sexual tension etc. This is what game is basically.
This is why "bad boys" win over "nice guys" who according to the whole "status" idea should do better on paper. It's not because they're better looking or earn more money and make better long term partners, it's just that their "not giving a fuck" behaviour creates more of an emotional reaction for the girl.
You don't have to be a "bad boy" to succeed, but just understand that it's less about the logical stuff.
Average guys belong with average girls, its as simple as that
Most guys when they are young have an idea girl in mind, but they aren't able to get her, because she is out of their league
Men need to have realistic expectations when dating. I am average, and I dont have too many problems when it comes to finding love.
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Most Helpful Girls
I don't follow your logic. Most people fall in the average category and simply observation proves most of us average people don't have problems finding partners. We'd have countless average single men chatting to single women about how they never meet single people.