If you treat her like a CELEBRITY, she will treat you like a FAN. Agree or Disagree?

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[MrOracle]

You are oversimplifying a bit, but there is some truth there.

When you put someone on a pedestal, you create a distance between you, and change the dynamic. This really doesn't work in your favor the vastly majority of the time.

I've met a couple hundred celebrities, most musicians, and while I acknowledge my appreciation for their work, I otherwise treat them as just another person, and that has led to some amazing conversations and some surprising access on a few occasions (and on others, nothing special, but that's okay too). Had I gushed on like a fanboi, I would never have had those experiences.

[pooper89]

I've met someone famous. When you see them as just another person, it's easy to forget

[MrOracle]

@pooper89 Yes.

Rocker Eddie Money just died, and my dad was asking what I remembered about him. Eddie Money is a Bay Area guy and in the mid-80s, I was good friends with 4 brothers who were in a band and played every weekend at a local pizza place, and who had won the grand prize on an MTV contest with their video. Eddie got to know them and used to occasionally stop by and play with them at this pizza place, and I got to meet him briefly a couple of times after gigs when I was helping load up their equipment. He was looking into managing the band, but not too long after that he released his next record (Can't Hold Back) and it was a huge hit, and he went on a long tour and I guess any thoughts of managing another young band went out the window.

I really only talked with him for a minute or two, but he was very friendly and gracious, and I could tell that he appreciated being treated like just another person, and he was able to let his guard down and just be a Brooklyn guy for a few minutes, and laugh at the conversations we were having.

[ShadezMcgee]

I agree with that statement. You approach a woman with no expectations. Be playful, fun and see if there is a connection and go on a definite date.

The big difference when it comes to dating a woman is that as a man you not only have to believe you can get her, you have to believe she deserves you. You need to be equals and not put her on a pedestal. That behavior of validation constantly and mindless conversation as opposed to dates makes it very easy to talk a woman out of liking you.

[obhiadnan]

100% agree with your statement.

[SincerelyAnon]

🤔 if my persons treat me amazing I will treat them amazing.
This sounds so bitter and immature..
If you are dealing with someone who treats you bad but you treat them amazing then you clearly need to stop dating them & take a step back from dating for a bit. Self care/self development to work on yourself so your not continuing to choose bad partners.

[SydneySentinel]

Depends on the woman.

How about we both treat each other like we're the other's greatest fans?

[coachTanthony]

In a perfect world I suppose :+)-

[SydneySentinel]

Thanks, darlin.

[Jean-Marie_Céline]

I agree with @nerms123. My girlfriend once called me her "hero" and it wasn't flattering in the least, just really awkward.

[sejla]

I think it would weird me out a bit but I think I"m not used to spoiling. I tend to be the spoiler not the spoilee. Don't think that is a word.

[Anonymous]

There was a woman i had a crush on for over a year i tried to win her over. You could say she was the celebrity and i was a fan. And when i say i tried everything i mean i tried everything. FInally when it became clear she wasn't having any of it i went the direction of tough love. Cut her off completely i didn't talk to her or acknowledge her existence. That's not to say i was mean or anything, i wasn't. I just refused to give her another minute of my time. So after about 3 days she comes up to me and says " do you want to talk about it" and i said " talk about what" and she said "well you haven't said anything to me for 3 days, so either your mad at me or something". And i said "No i just haven't had anything to say". And went back to what i was doing. And she just kind of stood there for like 3 minutes like i was going to say something else, but i didn't. So a week goes by. I still haven't engaged her in anyway. I want to make it clear i wasn't being mean. If she said "hi" i said "hi" back
But i was deadset i wasn't going to give her any more energy than she was willing to give me. But after a week out of the blue she just snapped on me and said what a dick i was being. I just looked at her calm and unphased and said. "What are you talking about"? And she told me i was being a dick to everyone. Which is funny because she was the only one i wasn't engaging. I was my normal jovial self with everyone else. So a couple months go by and she starts going to people and saying things about me behind my back. It's at this point that i finally figure out what i am to her. I'm her confidence builder, nothing more, she would say a couple flirtatious things to get my attention and then bask in that for the rest of the day. So after about six months she is saying things about me to other people and they know me so they're not buying which is just destroying her credibility. Finally none of us really want to talk to her because of what comes out of her mouth when she does. One day she just decided to take her ball and go home.
None of us has seen her since.
The moral of this story is she was supposed to fall for me because I stopped treating her like a celebrity. But she only grew pissed off because in her mind i was never her equal. But how dare i ignore her.
She did teach me a valuable lesson though because in the beginning i felt like i wasn't good enough for her. But in the end i found it was the other way around. Not to say i think i'm better than anyone. But she has deep seeded issues that'll make it impossible to ever find lasting love.

[coachTanthony]

Good story. I know exactly what you are talking about. YOU become her Heroin for internal validation and when the dealer disappears... she will start going through withdraws and even become hostile from what you have taken from her.

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks coach but this is something i struggle wiyh as i've found women are completely like this or not this way at all. But they're not wearing signs to designate which they are.
Probably doesn't help that i'm too emotional for my own good. Cutting her off was very hard for me to do.

[coachTanthony]

They are very intuitive creatures. Set boundaries in the beginning if they run then it's not worth it anyway. Most of the time this comes with a scarcity mentality because let's face it... it's tough out there so when we find someone we tend to go all in too soon.

[jp612612]

While women will never admit this, this is 100% true. If you treat a woman too well, you're always nice to her, you always treat her like she's the most beautiful, most intelligent woman you've ever met, she'll go out with you a few times and will even fuck you, but she won't want to be with you long-term. as you'll always spend that nice weekend with her only to get that Monday morning text saying how there's no "spark" or whatever.

But here's the thing -- it depends on what you want because if you don't want a long-term relationship, then I feel this is the best path to go. You get to date a lot of women but you never have to be the asshole and this is what "womanizing" is all about. Does this work with ALL women? No, but it works with greater than 90% of them and you learn very quickly how to identify a woman that you don't want to mess with. Usually, it's a woman who has dated a lot of bad guys and has finally come around to realizing that maybe she should date a good guy. Those are women that you don't want to do this to because they'll cling to you. But everyone else? Have at it. Treat them like a princess and promise them the world because they'll never take you up on it.

[nerms123]

Being treated like a celebrity makes me uncomfortable. I could never live up to that. I prefer to be treated something like a spoiled dog lol. I get a lot of treats but the guy is in charge 😂

[SincerelyAnon]

I can understand this. My exs treated me amazing I loved it but I tend to be a giver so being put on a pedestal was weird to me.
Lol not sure I would wanna be treated like a spoiled dog either though.
Love that they treated me amazing it just was weird being so important to someone that wasn't family to me. But if take that anyway over being treated horribly.

[Dongtai]

Disagree. Unless you’re a nonbeliever in individuality, then statements like these are never 100% fact.

We’re not ants. Every person on this planet has their own set of morals, beliefs and personality and much more.

All of these things determine how an individual will react in certain situations. But since everyone doesn’t have the same inner qualities, two individuals reaction to the same scenario won’t always be the same.

Some girls will appreciate a person who treats them like a celebrity while others won’t. It’s that simple.

[TonyBologna25]

If you see her as higher value than yourself, then she will start to see it that way too. But doing nice things for your spouse isn't by any means an indication that you're of low self value and you see her has higher value. I've treated all of the women in my life very well, and they did the same. If they take my kindness for granted, or see it as a pass to fuck up, then they're gone. Not even bitter. They're simply not for me if they do that. Love and relationships are not a give and take dynamic. The best relationships come from selfless intentions.

[slatyb]

When most people interact with celebrities, they talk about themselves and have no concern for the celebrity as a person. It's all about how the celebrity can meet their needs. Some people date the same way -- it's all about how the other person can meet their needs.

[SincerelyAnon]

This.

[yucychan]

I kinda agree with it.
The thing is I don't want to be treated like a celebrity, it's quite unnerving to be gushed and fawned over. I just wanted to be treated like a friend, like a best friend, the type where we can throw playful insults with each other and laugh over it.

[Moonchild714]

Celebrity is that the Milennials term for Queen?

Treat her like a Queen and she'll treatyou like her Peasants!!!

I know many women that were treated likea Queen/Celebrity by the Man in their life and they treated him like Her King/Celebrity Partner and they were each others Biggest Fans.

I've also, known a four women who were treated like a Queen/Celebrity by their Spouse (3 Men & a Woman) and treated their Spouses like Peasants/Annoying Fans, these four marriages all ended in DIVORCE!!!

[Browneye57]

Of course. Your bitch simply is no celebrity. Period.
Never put a woman on a pedestal. EVER. They will INSTANTLY lose respect for you, consider you beneath her, and set yourself up to be used and abused.
A woman's respect is about the only thing that holds your relationship together. EARN it.

[Liam_Hayden]

Pretty much. If you put her on a pedestal, all too often she will use you as a footrest.

[SuperManiac]

No, you treat yourself like a celebrity (not in a fake and over-the-top way, but a real way), and she will treat you like a fan. Treat her like a celebrity and she will treat *you* like a fan.

[SuperManiac]

I got too drunk and went stupid for a while. My bad! I actually agree! I got confused with the wording. Treat her like a fan, and she might treat you like a celebrity!

[foriWish]

It depends on the person. I'm pretty sure we all know most men do not treat women as celebrities. Therefore, not all women are what? as bitter men claim us to be

[TJ_Knight021]

I do not exactly agree, but if the love and support for each other isn't mutual, then that's a problem and you both need to check that out

[happyhedgehog]

If you treat someone like a celebrity then your losing the chance of having a close relationship with them. If you do that you don't even give them the option to respond to you like a normal person.

[Piteka5]

Maybe, but I wouldn't treat her like a celebrity, imagine this, if you're togheter your not her fan, you're your partner, so you should treat her as such, wich means, as best as possible. At least I wouldn't want to be treated as a celebrity

[OddBeMe]

Not sure what that means per se. Maybe a better analogy would be princess or something. But a healthy relationship is a two way street. So if someone treats you like a “fan” or “underling” probably best to get out. (Unless the sex is really good)

[BrittBratt2416]

i... guess? I mean sometimes they do get tired of those annoying fans and the paparazzi.

[SarahsSummer]

I dint think human interaction and respect or lack of comes down to your simple statement.