Strong independent woman vs submissive obedient girl - which one do you want and why?

[Anonymous]

Which is better in your opinion and why?

[Aethereal]

To be honest, I'd prefer someone submissive. I believe in equality in a relationship so I'm definitely not going to try taking advantage of her submissiveness. I just think that someone like this is more likely to be considerate and compromising. The Strong, independent woman persona has been generally portrayed as a woman who is self-centred, even arrogant; who'll reject criticism and refuse to compromise and consider the feelings/opinions of her partner in a relationship (perhaps because she'll see that as weakness). The only problem is if she is too submissive; never criticizing me, holding me to a standard, or letting her opinions be known so I can make sure I'm not doing something to hurt her feelings.

[Asker]

I definitely understand. a lot of my friends are strong independent types. we are so different and im far more compromising. mostly because we submissive girls put our men first almost always. am i pleasing him and supporting his needs? am i making him proud and representing him well in public? the respect and honor a submissive girl can give is another level in my opinion. I'm so proud to be submissive and obedient tbh. I think Ill make a great wife soon. but you are right, criticizing him wouldn't be my forte. I am more likely to give suggestions and help him work through things together with me. I'll give honesty without criticizing too much if I can. I'm open about my opinions but his decision is the final word on most things. And I definitely let him know if something hurt my feelings. Thats the beauty of being feminine and submissive. If im being especially sensitive that day and need to break down and cry and share my feelings, I can and he's there for me. my friends who are too strong have too much pride to do that and dont want to seem weak or give him the upper hand or the guys have so much built up resentment that its hard to soften for her in the mmoments she might need it. for submissive girls, we are usually always super feminine and want him to know that we look to him as the authority and the person who protects and takes care of us. in my experience and observation, the guy is 1000 times more open to caring and apologizing and being there for you when you need him if you're not a super hardened chick. but still some guys like the strong girl so I don't know, just what I see

[Aethereal]

I agree with you. You also pointed out another thing that makes me prefer submissive girls: "because we submissive girls put our men first almost always..." That's what I'd like from my partner because if she does that I'll be able to put her first as well (which is what I want to do for my partner in a relationship). When I said "criticizing", I generally meant that I'd want her to express her opinions, hold me to promises I make, work with me on issues, and pretty much what you described.
You seem like a lovely person. I envy the guy who wins your heart.

[Asker]

you're very sweet. thank you so much :)

[JSmuve]

I want one who's strong and independent in the outside world but submissive, affectionate, and obedient with me. I find submissive women more attractive and I'm more willing to be affectionate and protective of them.

[Asker]

definitely, we ladies have to wear two hats. one helps in career but I would never talk to my man that way. a lot of girls struggle with competing and bossing around their men. I might test him that way but a real man wouldn't accept that. And the flip side is her submission and obedience means nothing if she's doing it for everyone. The special guy in my life gets a unique position of authority over me, something no one else has not even my parents. I love it that way :)

[JSmuve]

I agree. I wouldn't accept being bossed around and if she tried to test me, then my attraction for her would dissipate and she'd be looking for another guy. I want a girl who's authentically submissive instead of one who's testing to see what she can get away with. And you're right, if you're submissive with every guy, it's not special and you're more likely to be used and manipulated by other guys. That's why when a girl is being submissive, you can't abuse her submissiveness. It's a balance; he protects her and she submits to him. Everyone's happy so long as both take care of their responsibilities towards each other.

[Sammy165]

There’s a time for each, but decent women are submissive to their partners when they’re comfortable and feel like they’re in a safe environment.

Honestly, I feel like the word ‘submission’ nowadays is directly linked to control.

[NorthwestRider]

A lot of men are staying away from submissive women because submissive women are helpless

My fiancée is the dominant one and she knows how to fix stuff on her own and she fights her own battles

[kaewk]

A man once told me, “if a woman is being treated well, she will naturally be submissive to him” and it’s SOOO true.

[NorthwestRider]

Your backwards religion taught you to be a slave towards men

[kaewk]

Last time I checked, slaves weren’t covered head to toe, waiting until marriage to fornicate, have the right to divorce, have the right to keep their own money, or have custody over their children.

Submissiveness is innate for women. You will find this among every culture. Just because you do not have the means to take care of a woman, financially or emotionally doesn’t it invalid.

[kaewk]

*make it invalid*

[NorthwestRider]

Islam is an awful barbaric religion that should not exist

Anyone who supports Islam is a SJW

[kaewk]

I love when people have no knowledge of the religion, yet bash it 🙂. Furthermore using a characteristic of mine to undermine my opinion...

[kaewk]

You’re a joke. Say you’re a submissive mamas boy and be gone.

[FatAnd50]

"Strong and independent" is, generally, FeministSpeak, for "mouthy, annoying broad who will die alone in her apartment with two dozen cats".

[Asker]

harsh but funny lol
guys seem to like the strong girls
But im glad so many like the submissive type as well :)
What do you like about the submissive and obedient type?

[art84]

Would strong independent mean that she doesn't need a man to support her like she takes care of herself and no man can tell her what to do? I think a woman who is strong and independent might come across as self centered and that would be a huge turn off for me. I am all for a women being independent but if she can't take criticism and always feels like she is right and I am not. Then I"ll take the submissive obedient girl who would probably be a lot easier to handle.

[esotericstory]

All women are at least somewhat submissive to their men, be it during pregnancy or in the bedroom. I rather have a woman that wouldn't lie to herself that I have to let her be independent in life but she because a submissive girl during bedroom activities.

[jgokgotit]

If forced to choose I would pick a strong independent woman. I can't stand when a woman is overly needy. However, a woman can be strong and independent yet still be submissive. A real woman knows how and when to be either one.

[Cowboy6666]

submissive woman at least they won't leave me and be loyal to me

[Asker]

I think we are probably the most loyal. We look up to our men and usually give ourselves completely. I like my man to be in charge. The level of respect and honor is too deep for most submissive, obedient women to cheat. just my opinion

[Cowboy6666]

Do you have a man or you are single too?
If you are submissive girl you are serious relationship girl for me tbh

[dwiller943]

I used to be the submissive
obedient type of girl
when I was growing up.
I mean I had my limits,
but I was still obedient.
Never again. It attracts nothing
but abusive people.

[Unit1]

Nice little poem!

[Unit1]

Strong and independent women, who got their stuff together and make their own money ❤ (nein, I'm not a gigolo. I make my own money too)

Submissive obedience is toxic.

[Asker]

you can have your life together and be submissive to him but to each his own, there's a match for all :)

[Unit1]

If that's her fetish, I'll do it for her anyway. No problem at all.
However my ideal would be having an equal partner.

[Anonymous]

Strong independent, but submissive only to me. Thats my current girlfriend. My previous hookup was submissive but not strong. She would call me like 10 times a day to complain about her leg pain, headache, her mom etc. It quickly became nuisance.

[Passinggas]

I don't really know what this independent crap means but I do like a woman that can take care of herself and makes things happen and then she gets feminine with me and pampers me for which I give twice back. Submissive is compatible with me.

[Luv2BRealExotic13]

I think “submission” is dumb. Attempt to control me for why and what? That’s what it is at the end of the day.

[Anonymous]

I prefer a feminine women she doesn’t have to be submissive I just don’t like these modern sTrOnG iNdEpEnDeNt women who have to tell everyone how independent they are. Why would any guy want someone like that

[Asker]

lol I don't know but they are the focus these days

[DDpsy]

If those are the only two settings the female units come with then I will not buy one. I want more fine tuning god damn it.

[Asker]

you dont know whether or not you like submissive and obedient or strong and independent?

[DDpsy]

I like women that are in between.

[TadCurious]

Strong and able to be independent but who wants to be in a relationship where she can depend on her partner and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

If she's competent and emotionally stable enough, independent outside bedroom.

If she's not both of those, I'm okay with submissive.

Like I think i'd rather we co-lead but if you're not capable of it, then just let me lead.

[Ally247]

I'm the first and I know dudes don't dig it but whatever

[Anonymous]

Submissive woman. Strong and independent is just a phrase that means pain in the ass.

[Andremoso]

Submissive obedient women are the real women. Women are supposed to be that way. The ones that think they are strong and independent are fake with low self-esteem and sooner or later they end up lonely.

[WhiteSandBeach]

Strong independent woman. It has nothing to do with gender. An adult should be independent.

[COMMODOREII]

Strong independent woman. Cause I'm not your "daddy" and will do everything for you. You need to get off your ass and be responsible and productive.

[Creepazoid]

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