because if you are decent then you won't get the attention. it's just a game of numbers . lets say a slow play fuckboy approaches 100 girls in a month ( no idea about the actual number ) then 50% girls ( 50 girls ) will at least talk to him. of those girls another 50% ( 25 girls ) will make a long conv then another 50 % ( 12 girls ) might be interested in going on a date or giving her number then 50% ( 6 girls ) might go on a date let say 4 girls each on weekend. but a guy or a girl who does not ask out any girls or talk to any guys will do these over a year.
I think they've been burned. I know it's tough to put yourself out there over and over again. Tougher really, there are so many more bots and scams out there then the last time I was out there dating aggressively. Get through all that, and THEN you get to find out if all the trouble was worth your time, or will be worth the investment of time. Or you hook up and it's back to the dating grind, more bots, more scams, round and round.
It seems to me that more and more people are self-centered and self-absorbed that they can't see beyond their own nose unless they want something from you. Also, it seems to me that more and more people are more toxic and more easily triggered. People seem to have more "red flags" about themselves. Why would a decent person want to get into this type of relationship?
It seems to me that getting into a relationship is like tying an anchor around your neck and trying to swim.
My response may not be the most accepted or liked, but here it is. I believe nowadays the competition is bigger women and men have to compete with both sexes. Seems like so many people are "BI" and it makes it harder to try to date in a conventional way it seems. I'm tired of competing with a man to get a man, per say. Not like that all the time but damn where I live its crazy. I also think society in general are becoming more woke so people will put up with less bullshit nowadays. We expect better from others and will remain single till we find someone worthy of our love.
where are all you gals from? I've not met any single women that behave, believe or communicate these opinions. I've been looking for a over a decade and then, here you are. im speechless. im in the wrong town
Because - people use them too much and sometimes ghost them until they need something again. - They are tired of people's shit - they are too nice, making others as priorities.
because no interesting guy ever hits on me. i usually get hit on by sleazy guys or 50 year-old-men, and i have 0 confidence to approach a guy i am interested in unless he approaches me. i feel like i don't have a perfect body, and (am currently 125 lbs), but hopefully once i am 120 or 115, i'll have more confidence. i feel that if i approach, they'll either reject me or go out with me out of pity.
@MMayhem oh no. i am not very slim. i am short, 5''2. so i should be 115 lbs. i am a bit chubby, and every guy on gag wants a model, so i can't approach any guy until i look like one.
those aren't good people. they won't be enjoyable to be with. curves make things interesting. just like roads, who wants a straight away all night? boring. the scale is just a number you should give yourself more credit than you give it. feeling good comes from within, not from the scale and not from some dorks that like stick figures. its a decision we all must make and it is not always easy to be happy. good luck i hope you find yourself soon
@MMayhem aww, thank you. that is very sweet of you as well. Good thing that i am losing the weight in a healthy way (not by crash dieting the way i was when i was 15).
YES! That's a big problem I have noticed too. Apparently if we don't "put out" right away, guys lose interest. But in a way that's a good thing: weed out the bad ones and fboys
I guess thats why i go for the virgins waiting til marriage. Its not that i wanna wait til marriage anymore but its better to wait than havin to put out before im reasy
@elite665 No, it means we're not ready for it yet OR you haven't asked us to be your girlfriend yet. So NO of course we're not just going to sleep with a guy just because of a certain timeframe.
Well that’s my mentality and after 2 months of seeing each other I would think u would know if u wanted to be in the relationship or not. How long would you girls want to wait a year cause good luck finding any dude wanting to wait that long
@elite665 #1 i know i wanna be ina relationship before i even date you. Thats why you get to know them as an acquaintance first. We’d def be official by or before 2 months but sex won't be until close to a year (sometime after 6 months). My ex waited until a year and a half to have sex. As of now i prob won't wait past a year unless they want to wait til marriage but still, def like 9 months into the relationship
When meeting someone, there's never been a rush for the girl " put out" . for us to do it. Whenever it did happen was the perfect time for us. Now there's been many times if I wasn't aggressive enough, by the third date, she moved on.
@Jamie05rhs how long have you known eachother? If i met them online then i wouldn't have given it in less than a month back then. Now i give discord maybe after two weeks. In person, i would give discord when meeting cause i’d prob never see em again. But if i were still in HS or college, then i wouldn't give my number til after a month or so
Well because woman for one will tell be in a relationship with you only if
A. Have a place B. Have a job/ or stable one C. Have goals D. Have a car E. You can support to take care of them F. You have a stable relationship with your family & Friends G. Don't have money problems like debt or issues with spending money All the woman in California think like this
I have run into this every time that I go on dates with woman and if I don't check off on this then they say bye bye. Woman put too many standards to have a guy in a relationship in california but I have found woman in other states in the USA have different standards and wants in a guy. I really think woman and California are to about. We have become to self centered in the USA as far as dating is concerns and why I think people have put off relationships in general. I think, it also has to do with money and staying a float.
Because Feminism has made modern women, as a collective, unsuitable for relationships, marriage and motherhood. Also, the legal system has been recrafted to make any form of interaction with females suicidally dangerous for men. It is all part of a larger Communist plan, as per The Communist Manifesto (Marx, 1854).
I am single because of my medical situation I need to have my retirement financed or have a near enough passive cashflow system before I am 50 so am focused on building my net worth to enable that so I keep my social aspects to a minimum (my friends are happy to see me a few times a year) To live to a comfortable level I'd need to have an income or allocation of around £50,000 a year based on current purchasing power so their is a lot of work to go
I can only speak for men. But it seems like this MGTOW thing has really taken off. They think that the risk far outweighs the reward for getting into a relationship.
Yeah I know. But I can understand where they are coming from. Statistically the courts utterly ruin men’s lives when it comes to divorce. At the same time. Men and women should be more cautious who they get into a relationship with. The courtship phase is dead. People jump right into committed relationships after only a date or two.
I’ve realized that I’ve hardly been single since age 15, in spite of my small tits 😂 and fact that I hate cooking, and the general public, and I don’t care for babies except my niece (she’s cool.) I should be a single old cat lady by now. Guess the mgtow were wrong in that.
Well that's definitely a plus to being single. After my past relationships, I can say I am definitely not as stressed as I was when I was in a relationship! But obviously that varies based on the person you're with.
Yes. Most women dress and act and are sluts. Unfortunately I believe that disqualifies a woman from marriage. And so there is nobody to date and everyone to hook up with. And maybe I could be more flexible and understanding of mistakes but as a wealthy man and how divorce is, I cannot take a risk on a woman who is not of the strongest moral character.
Well... In my country is the oposite. Only guys that want to be free and not to commit. And jerks that are egocentric and narcisistic and dont pay attention or know how to give love. A lot of girls too have started not to care also. So its dificult to find someone.
My opinion of the question, (Why are some many decent people single nowadays?) is, that so many decent people are single nowadays, because they just broke it off with someone, that apparently, was an jack ass and refuses to be in a relationship with someone like that. They would rather be single until the right person comes along! Whenever that might be.
So what? People don't need to hook up and have children. The pill saved women from huge social consequences and higher wages with ability to buy a car gave people tremendous freedom. What is a decent person anyhow? We all have our frailties and contradictions.
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because if you are decent then you won't get the attention. it's just a game of numbers . lets say a slow play fuckboy approaches 100 girls in a month ( no idea about the actual number ) then 50% girls ( 50 girls ) will at least talk to him. of those girls another 50% ( 25 girls ) will make a long conv then another 50 % ( 12 girls ) might be interested in going on a date or giving her number then 50% ( 6 girls ) might go on a date let say 4 girls each on weekend. but a guy or a girl who does not ask out any girls or talk to any guys will do these over a year.
soooo. tell me how my assumption is flawed
Actually it makes perfect sense but obviously each guy/girl will have different outcomes in terms of numbers
I think they've been burned. I know it's tough to put yourself out there over and over again. Tougher really, there are so many more bots and scams out there then the last time I was out there dating aggressively. Get through all that, and THEN you get to find out if all the trouble was worth your time, or will be worth the investment of time. Or you hook up and it's back to the dating grind, more bots, more scams, round and round.
It seems to me that more and more people are self-centered and self-absorbed that they can't see beyond their own nose unless they want something from you. Also, it seems to me that more and more people are more toxic and more easily triggered. People seem to have more "red flags" about themselves. Why would a decent person want to get into this type of relationship?
It seems to me that getting into a relationship is like tying an anchor around your neck and trying to swim.
My response may not be the most accepted or liked, but here it is. I believe nowadays the competition is bigger women and men have to compete with both sexes. Seems like so many people are "BI" and it makes it harder to try to date in a conventional way it seems. I'm tired of competing with a man to get a man, per say. Not like that all the time but damn where I live its crazy. I also think society in general are becoming more woke so people will put up with less bullshit nowadays. We expect better from others and will remain single till we find someone worthy of our love.
where are all you gals from? I've not met any single women that behave, believe or communicate these opinions. I've been looking for a over a decade and then, here you are. im speechless. im in the wrong town
@MMayhem I've had an Awakening and there's no going back Mayhem! For the PNW.
Because
- people use them too much and sometimes ghost them until they need something again.
- They are tired of people's shit
- they are too nice, making others as priorities.
Every single point you listed? I nodded my head because I've been THAT person. You are absolutely right.
Here it is how i always feel and i refer with this circle concept also😊
Hahah! I fall into the "I'm happiest when I'm by myself" portion
because no interesting guy ever hits on me. i usually get hit on by sleazy guys or 50 year-old-men, and i have 0 confidence to approach a guy i am interested in unless he approaches me. i feel like i don't have a perfect body, and (am currently 125 lbs), but hopefully once i am 120 or 115, i'll have more confidence. i feel that if i approach, they'll either reject me or go out with me out of pity.
are you sure they can see you? sounds like you are already very slim maybe there's a sign post in the way
@MMayhem oh no. i am not very slim. i am short, 5''2. so i should be 115 lbs. i am a bit chubby, and every guy on gag wants a model, so i can't approach any guy until i look like one.
those aren't good people. they won't be enjoyable to be with. curves make things interesting. just like roads, who wants a straight away all night? boring. the scale is just a number you should give yourself more credit than you give it. feeling good comes from within, not from the scale and not from some dorks that like stick figures. its a decision we all must make and it is not always easy to be happy. good luck i hope you find yourself soon
@MMayhem aww, thank you. that is very sweet of you as well. Good thing that i am losing the weight in a healthy way (not by crash dieting the way i was when i was 15).
Partially because i refuse to have sex at an early stage in the relationship
YES! That's a big problem I have noticed too. Apparently if we don't "put out" right away, guys lose interest. But in a way that's a good thing: weed out the bad ones and fboys
I guess thats why i go for the virgins waiting til marriage. Its not that i wanna wait til marriage anymore but its better to wait than havin to put out before im reasy
Ok well if within the first 2 months if you don’t want sex it’s telling us you don’t like us sooo yeaaaaaa
@elite665 No, it means we're not ready for it yet OR you haven't asked us to be your girlfriend yet. So NO of course we're not just going to sleep with a guy just because of a certain timeframe.
Wow thats really how dudes be thinking. Thats sad
@DizzyDesii Pathetic isn't it?
No sex=she's not interested in me, time to move on!
... just wow. If that's their mentality, they yeah, I'm going to be single a long time then!
Well that’s my mentality and after 2 months of seeing each other I would think u would know if u wanted to be in the relationship or not.
How long would you girls want to wait a year cause good luck finding any dude wanting to wait that long
@elite665 #1 i know i wanna be ina relationship before i even date you. Thats why you get to know them as an acquaintance first. We’d def be official by or before 2 months but sex won't be until close to a year (sometime after 6 months). My ex waited until a year and a half to have sex. As of now i prob won't wait past a year unless they want to wait til marriage but still, def like 9 months into the relationship
Forget sex. How about a phone number at least.
@Jamie05rhs i give discord until i can trust the person then i move up to phone number
When meeting someone, there's never been a rush for the girl " put out" . for us to do it. Whenever it did happen was the perfect time for us. Now there's been many times if I wasn't aggressive enough, by the third date, she moved on.
@TahoeHiker people differ cause im not bout that
@DizzyDesii I suppose that's fine. But I ain't even got that much. This chick ain't givin' me shit.
@Jamie05rhs how long have you known eachother? If i met them online then i wouldn't have given it in less than a month back then. Now i give discord maybe after two weeks. In person, i would give discord when meeting cause i’d prob never see em again. But if i were still in HS or college, then i wouldn't give my number til after a month or so
Well because woman for one will tell be in a relationship with you only if
A. Have a place
B. Have a job/ or stable one
C. Have goals
D. Have a car
E. You can support to take care of them
F. You have a stable relationship with your family & Friends
G. Don't have money problems like debt or issues with spending money
All the woman in California think like this
I have run into this every time that I go on dates with woman and if I don't check off on this then they say bye bye. Woman put too many standards to have a guy in a relationship in california but I have found woman in other states in the USA have different standards and wants in a guy. I really think woman and California are to about. We have become to self centered in the USA as far as dating is concerns and why I think people have put off relationships in general. I think, it also has to do with money and staying a float.
Leave California! There is a whole world outside of that crazy-ass land.
I have been single for five years. I remain so because people are disgusting in the way they treat each other.
I'd rather bask in my solitude than play childish games and broken hearts.
It's really not worth the decline in health to have a relationship that is more than likely going to end at some point anyway.
Also posting this song because it's relevant...
https://youtu.be/Y0l5nIx0Acw
Because Feminism has made modern women, as a collective, unsuitable for relationships, marriage and motherhood.
Also, the legal system has been recrafted to make any form of interaction with females suicidally dangerous for men.
It is all part of a larger Communist plan, as per The Communist Manifesto (Marx, 1854).
I am single because of my medical situation I need to have my retirement financed or have a near enough passive cashflow system before I am 50 so am focused on building my net worth to enable that so I keep my social aspects to a minimum (my friends are happy to see me a few times a year)
To live to a comfortable level I'd need to have an income or allocation of around £50,000 a year based on current purchasing power so their is a lot of work to go
I can only speak for men. But it seems like this MGTOW thing has really taken off. They think that the risk far outweighs the reward for getting into a relationship.
Really now? That is saddening to hear
Yeah I know. But I can understand where they are coming from. Statistically the courts utterly ruin men’s lives when it comes to divorce. At the same time. Men and women should be more cautious who they get into a relationship with. The courtship phase is dead. People jump right into committed relationships after only a date or two.
Not everyone feels lonely when single. There are a lot of things to be done before someone should lose themselves and their freedom in another person.
I’ve realized that I’ve hardly been single since age 15, in spite of my small tits 😂 and fact that I hate cooking, and the general public, and I don’t care for babies except my niece (she’s cool.) I should be a single old cat lady by now. Guess the mgtow were wrong in that.
Beats me... Maybe there don't have as many struggles or stress while in a relationship...
Well that's definitely a plus to being single. After my past relationships, I can say I am definitely not as stressed as I was when I was in a relationship! But obviously that varies based on the person you're with.
Agreed @Cynicaldreamer
Because for people who want relationships these days decency is not popular (Psalm 12:8)!
So sad but true!
Yes. Most women dress and act and are sluts. Unfortunately I believe that disqualifies a woman from marriage. And so there is nobody to date and everyone to hook up with. And maybe I could be more flexible and understanding of mistakes but as a wealthy man and how divorce is, I cannot take a risk on a woman who is not of the strongest moral character.
Well... In my country is the oposite. Only guys that want to be free and not to commit. And jerks that are egocentric and narcisistic and dont pay attention or know how to give love. A lot of girls too have started not to care also. So its dificult to find someone.
What country?
Portugal
My opinion of the question, (Why are some many decent people single nowadays?) is, that so many decent people are single nowadays, because they just broke it off with someone, that apparently, was an jack ass and refuses to be in a relationship with someone like that. They would rather be single until the right person comes along! Whenever that might be.
So what? People don't need to hook up and have children. The pill saved women from huge social consequences and higher wages with ability to buy a car gave people tremendous freedom. What is a decent person anyhow? We all have our frailties and contradictions.