Why are some older unmarried folks so picky?

[nelly83]

I've seen quite a few single 38 yr old guys who are still so picky at their age while they complain that everyone is married with kids at their age. Do they realize that dating options will decrease as they get older?

Or is it the sense of entitlement the same reason why they are still single at the late age of 38?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Entitlement. People feel like they deserve the best and its fine to desire the best but as you age, you have to become realistic at this point. Age 38 isn't old but it isn't young 25 neither; so be realistic and pretty much you're going to have to settle for what you can get at that age unless you have lots of money to get a beautiful looking woman.

[ask4any]

That's why they are unmarried. Too picky!

[Apope16]

They are pickt. Thats why they are single. As you get older you become more aet in your routine. Less flexible

[Truthatanycost]

I'm older and still turned down the girl half my age (I prefer to remain single). When I was in my 20's, I had much less options and interest. Now that I'm older, I've been asked out by girls in their 20's, 40's, 50's and a few younger. My dating options have increased as I've gotten older. You just can't see it because it rarely works the same for women, so it's very difficult to see it from a male perspective. Obviously this won't be the case for every guy, but I bet it is for many.

[nelly83]

Dating options do not increase as you get older. You just like to believe that cus you are afraid of the Truth

[Truthatanycost]

Dating options do not increase as you get older when you are female. But as I said, you cannot see it from the male perspective. I don't understand your comment about being afraid. I am perfectly content, with, or without a partner. Life is a blessing period.

[Truthatanycost]

Did you get rejected by an older guy?

[nelly83]

I don’t know. 30s is when many guys grow bald or grow white hairs. It’s possible a guy can still look better at 30-32 but 35 is when a guy starts turning old and ugly. That’s why I don’t date guys over 32

[Truthatanycost]

To any man that understands nutrition and the body, there is no need to worry about balding, wrinkles or weight gain. But if a guy does not understand this, the yes, he will look bad.

Ageing at the most basic level is simply collagen depletion. Just by addressing that single thing, you can knock at least 5 years off your age, even at your age. Balding is often due to imbalanced androgen / hormones. Correct those and hair comes back etc etc. It's all about looking after yourself as you age.

[nelly83]

You can only look after yourself to a certain extent. You can’t make a 48 yr old look 26.

[Mikeilito]

Smart man getting married just fucks up a good time you had!! Its like waking someone up in the middle of a wet dream you never get it back!

[Truthatanycost]

You completely underestimate what is possible with the human body. If that 48 year old does everything required, from at least the age of 25-30 then he can look significantly younger, anywhere from 10+ years younger.

If I were to ask you how much collagen, organic sulfur and iodine you had in your diet yesterday... if you cannot answer than you are ageing much faster than you need to be...

[Truthatanycost]

@Mikeilito Yes, not being married also reduces stress which is part of what keeps you more youthful. And once you start to appreciate all areas of life, the little daily miracles all around, then it starts to take on a whole new form. Ha I just remembered this woman was asking me why I wasn't married, and she tried to sell it to me. At the end of the conversation she asked for my contact details. How could she not realize that doing so wasn't helping her sales pitch?

[nelly83]

A five-year age gap statistically means you’re 18% more likely to divorce (versus just 3% with a 1-year age difference), and that rate rises to 39% for a 10-year age difference and 95% for a 20-year age gap. Partners from different generations may have different cultural reference points and values, and polar opposite tastes in music and film, and even friends, and also have different approaches to their sex life, says Fran Walfish, Beverly Hills psychotherapist and panelist on “Sex Box,” a forthcoming We TV relationship therapy show. “Sex drive goes up for women in middle age, but sexual function decreases for men.”

www.google.com/.../18DF915A-69BD-11E4-BF0C-187229AF9EE3

If old men were so adept at keeping young , this wouldn’t have happened

[Mikeilito]

He’s right nelly it’s true the only reason you oh you don’t read much about it it’s not a dating thing out in open, young girls don’t want young they want older mature responsible if you look at the past 2 generations men are not responsible or mature lazy and bad providers oh media

[Mikeilito]

Media and television are only that reality is women want men an there are no more but us gentlemen from the past

[Dchrls78104]

If you think that because a guy is older he should accept whatever garbage comes his way, you need some awakening. EVERYONE is entitled to his choices, his preferences; age should have absolutely no bearing on the pursuit of happiness; and NO ONE should accept second best or take that level of unhappiness within him to the grave. You appear to be seriously mistaken.

[ItalianGuy2021]

Exactly why have those kinds of regrets?

[nelly83]

What makes you think that you would have more dating options at 40 compared to 32? You simply cannot afford to be picky when you don’t have Enough to pick from

[Dchrls78104]

You seem to be suggesting that as a person ages he should lower his standards and desperately seek a partner. Women in my country have lost their lives or had their children molested who have followed such reasoning which in fact merits an examination of the head and a serious reality check.

[nelly83]

How do you pick when you have no options? Most 35 yr olds have no friends , very limited social circles compared to back when they were in their 20s. Everyone around their age is married

[ItalianGuy2021]

There are plenty of options bars, apps and yes we have plently of friends at our age. Coworkers and others we meet too.

[nelly83]

@ItalianGuy2021 you don’t have many friends at your age. Because you have substantially lost a good portion of them when they got married in their 30s. Most folks your age are not partying or going out to clubs or socializing anymore. A lot of older folks tend to go to work then go home and go out 7 percent of the time. And few young people are willing to date someone 15-25 years their senior

[ItalianGuy2021]

Says you I got plently of friends who are married and I still see them. As far as younger girls being hard to find luckily I look about 30 years old. I am not wasting my time on some used up ho in her 40s.

[nelly83]

@ItalianGuy2021 you probably get to see your married friend 1 time every 3 months when they have the time for you. And you probably don’t have any best friends either cus people in their 30s tend to naturally grow distant from their friends. Most younger women are also looking for a life partner to spend life with some old man. I wouldn’t date a 43 yr old regardless of how young he looks. I’m not interested in becoming a nanny to you at the age of 45. And I’m not interested in getting re married cus my elderly husband cannot satisfy me in bed anymore.

[nelly83]

@ItalianGuy2021

A five-year age gap statistically means you’re 18% more likely to divorce (versus just 3% with a 1-year age difference), and that rate rises to 39% for a 10-year age difference and 95% for a 20-year age gap. Partners from different generations may have different cultural reference points and values, and polar opposite tastes in music and film, and even friends, and also have different approaches to their sex life, says Fran Walfish, Beverly Hills psychotherapist and panelist on “Sex Box,” a forthcoming We TV relationship therapy show. “Sex drive goes up for women in middle age, but sexual function decreases for men.”

www.google.com/.../18DF915A-69BD-11E4-BF0C-187229AF9EE3

[ItalianGuy2021]

Yea and smoking is likely to kill someone but a lot of smokers live to be 100. I know a girl she was like 26 and married a guy who was around 50 and they are happy with kinds and have been together for 20 years. If you don't wanna date an older man then don't but other girls are going to do what they want.

[nelly83]

@ItalianGuy2021 90 percent of younger women are not interested in dating older men unless you can manage to look way younger than your age. And Chances are , she will only divorce you as time goes on. Studies have proven the larger the age gap, the higher chance of divorce

[ItalianGuy2021]

Well lucky I look way young for my age then.

[ItalianGuy2021]

@nelly83 How did statistics work out when they said the Coronavirus was gonna kill millions? Lol statistics are BS. Fake BS created by a bunch of salty older women probably.

[nelly83]

@ItalianGuy2021 these statistics make sense tho. would you as a 43 yr old be able to stay married to a 60 yr old? I doubt it.

You can’t stay spend a life time with a man whose life is already more than half over. And no woman will be interested in being a nanny more than a wife by the time she hits 49. Sorry. Divorce is imminent. Nobody gets married knowing that she will have to get re married in 20 years. why buy an old car that has broken down twice instead of a new one?

[ItalianGuy2021]

I am a guy there is a difference there are plently of 20 year gap relationships. I think maybe a long term relationship with an 18 year or something would not be realistic but still fun while it lasts. When you talk about an old car not working anymore that is a woman over 30 lol. Guys age way better why you think 70 and 80 yr old guys still star in movies as the main star? Older guys and younger girls go together.

[nelly83]

@ItalianGuy2021 what I meant by old car not working is:

If I marry an old guy, he’s gonna sexually underperform can’t satisfy me in bed when I hit my sexual prime. Men underperform in sex as they get older. Their sperm quality as declines with age. The car is breaking down. And eventually I will have to pay a huge price of becoming a NANNY at the age of 48. Just like I have to pay for huge expenses for car repairs.
Then you’re gonna die which means I will have to pay for another wedding to get re married. In car terms , i will simply have to buy a new car when the old second hand car breaks down

Yea sure you can have kids at 50 but do I really want your kids at your age? Just wait till your kid comes out fucked up by your ancient sperm.

I don’t want to have to divorce 15 years down the road cus I’m a 43 yr old married to a 60 yr old.
Anyone who marries a much older man is dumb and doesn’t have a good head on her shoulders. Just wait till she gets unhappy 10 years in.

[Anonymous]

too funny!!!

95% of men know how big a lie this is. your average woman rejects men 50 times as many times as an average man rejects a woman.

especially older, heavy women who demand Brad Pitt while rejecting men for being chubby while she weighs 75 pounds more than he does.

Never forget

Supermodel

fat-shamed loser

yeah we are the shallow ones

[nelly83]

I don’t know how you can be picky when you’re 45 plus. Haha

[Opinion Owner]

never said I was

95% of men aren't... but 98% of women are, no matter their age or weight

that good enough or will I have to make it even easier for you to understand it?

[nelly83]

I don’t find 48 yr old men attractive regardless of whatever you have to say,

[RandD4Ever]

Omfg you really are completely dumb and completely fucking clueless. Do us a favor and don't make anymore stupid questions. Can you do us all that favor please. And just a quick fyi people who are older and single it's because they were in previous bad unhealthy very toxic and even abusive relationships that didn't work out where they got strung along cheated on hurt manipulated abused mentally emotionally cheated on and almost physically abused by their ex's. So before you make stupid questions or comments like these just shut your trap for a few seconds and do some actual hard thinking

[I-am-a-nobody]

I was 34 when I married, so I guess I was one of the picky ones.
My goal as a teen was to be married at 23, but after waiting another 10 years, I wasn't about to settle. I got more picky through the late twenties and only wanted extremely high quality. I got it, marrying an intelligent, fun morally excellent woman 9 1/2 years younger than myself. We were both a lot more mature then most couples and it's been great the last 20+ years.
I know it's not "fair" but it is the women at age 38 who have fewer options. Guys in their 30s still have plenty of options, though I think they they should settle down at some point. Settle down, yes, settle for less, no.

[nelly83]

Guys in their early 30s have plenty of options but not guys in their mid to late 30s

[I-am-a-nobody]

@nelly83
The median age for first marriage is almost 30 in the US.
www.census.gov/.../ms-2.pdf
I can't believe things fall off a cliff within 5 years of the median!

Believe me, as someone who doesn't believe in sex before marriage. I wish everyone could get married before 25, but the abundance of people unfit for marriage at age 25 makes it difficult. Large numbers aren't fit for marriage at any age. (ha ha)
Better to be picky and have something that lasts. I know this is tough on women biologically. It's not "fair", but maybe mature women in their early twenties should marry men in their early thirties instead of wasting their time trying to get one of the few mature men in their early twenties.

[nelly83]

I think you’re just spewing around lies. No woman in her early 20s wants to get married. We all are dating boyfriends that are around our age. None of us want full blown commitment while so young. This is the reality we live in. Quit dreaming that 20 yr old girls lust over 39 yr old guys.,

[I-am-a-nobody]

@nelly83
I'm not spewing lies. Just seeing reality. At 34, I married a 25 y. o. (who is still my honey and I want no other by the way). My brother, who is one year older and not near as good looking as me, married a girl about 11 years younger. I realize that's a small sample, but it happens all the time.

The girls in their early twenties might date around and "have fun", but when they hear the old biological clock ticking, they, at least sometimes, end up with a guy who is in his mid to late thirties.

[nelly83]

The average age to get married is late 20s to early 30s. And most couples are less than 10 years apart. So don’t go lying and talking about 21 yr old girls dying to marry 35 yr olds. 95 percent of us do not want commitment at such a young age. 95 percent of us won’t give you a single chance unless you still look younger than your age.

[nelly83]

You’re just trying to make yourself feel better by talking about the 5 percent of 25 yr olds who get married. 95 percent of us in our early 20s do not want to get married. So go fuck off. And 98 percent of my peers are dating guys around our age, people we meet at college and from our social circles.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@nelly83
OK, Nelly, no need to cuss me out.
Honestly, I wish you the best.

[Obtuse]

Dating options have only expanded with age in my experience. You don't need mainstream appeal. Of course, George Clooney might average like a 3/10 -- but he's not gonna have such a hard time because a sufficient enough minority will place him much, much higher. You only need cult appeal. A 45-year old who can deliver a most well-articulated and experienced lecture will invite fans.

[Mikeilito]

Nelly yiu talk about attraction that older you wouldn’t sleep with well from the looks of most the boys today the ones who spent most of their youth behind a screen in the bedroom and really still do can’t compare they don’t own a fit bone in there body and what they know sexually is what they’ve read we’ve lived and done it I can stand next to any 30 20 something and blow him out the water physically. Easy!

[Obtuse]

I think so as well and that's been my experience anyway. If a guy is sufficiently sociable and experienced with women, I think for most guys it gets easier with age rather than harder. Of course, there might be some girls who have zero interest in older guys physically, but I don't think that's so important because there's another group who are interested and the older guy can more easily talk to them and charm them typically.

[beldath]

The dating pool obviously shrinks the older we get, at least if we want someone our own age. We learn from our experiences what we should avoid now, and that lowers the choice rate even more.
I've always been anti drinking, smoking, drugs, and tattoos. Im not religious either. My choices my age are next to nil. If I want to waiver on them, I'll have someone, but I won't be happy.

[AynonOMouse]

In my experience dating options increased quite a bit as I got older. Women in their 30s have a lot less options when it comes to relationships, but men often have more options. And I think plenty of them that are single and picky is because they have always been picky and that is why they stay single for longer periods of time than others.
I'd rather be single for long periods of time than have low standards and end up with lots of bad relationships/bad experiences like most people do.

[nelly83]

Most guys dating options are the biggest in late 20s to early 30s. 35/36 is when men’s dating options noticeably decline as he is exiting his prime

[Liam_Hayden]

People get more picky when they get older because experience teaches them a lot of things they cannot accept, thus eliminating a lot of incompatible people.

And I am not sure that their options actually decrease as they get older. Lot of women their age and younger get divorced, and despite Hollywood fantasies, a lt more 50 year old men can date women in their 30's than 50 year old women who can find willing dating partners in their 30's. For example, my uncle is 54 and his current girlfriend is around 35.

[nelly83]

Most couples are less than 10 years apart. I think you’re just trying to make yourself believe in lies so you can feel better.

[coffeewithcream]

Sounds like they have it pretty good.
They are at the age when their married friends will lose their house to their ex-wife as well as half the rest of their savings and shit and be saddled with child support payments.
While the old single guy will have a good life, his former married friends will end up living in their car.
Picky is good.

[MangoB83]

It’s a way they can reconcile being single when in reality they’re just losers (just kidding).
Really, most people just get picky with age and are less afraid to show it. But once they’re in a relationship or married they couldn’t care less because they’re focused on the relationship

[Mikeilito]

Nelly the ages your talking about is the gen of my son. Millennials and I had to walk away from his thinking of life they all are nuts and the new generation X is it I’ve read they are a worse spinoff of yours, the millennials, so if yiu look up the generations not down it you’ll find bliss!

[MangoB83]

@Mikeilito Heh heh. Who’s Nelly?

[KrakenAttackin]

Ha! Now this is ripe. A woman calling men out for being "picky". To answer your question directly, older men are "picky" because they can be. The demographics begin to change once a woman hits age 25 and trend downward from there.

Also, whey are many men still single at age 38? Why shouldn't they be? Many men have realized that the "juice isn't worth the squeeze" when it comes to women.

A single man can do what he wants, when he wants, how he wants. As a recently divorced guy I had forgotten the freedom that comes with being single, and it is amazing! I am in no hurry to date.

[nelly83]

Do you realize most 30 something year old guys have little to no daring action at all? I know a lot of 30 something year old guys. They just go to work then go home. No parties , no friends cus their peers are married off.

[nelly83]

I have many 30 something year old guy friends which is how I know. Many of them have little to no social circles compared to back then when they were in their 20s. Many of them find it hard to find dates.

[KrakenAttackin]

These men are doing exactly what they want to do. You mention that these men 'have no friends because their peers are married off", what does this say about women? Once married she clamps down and doesn't allow him to see his old friends, which is really shitty.

Don't feel badly for these men, they are fine. They likely have their hobbies, are saving money, and living on their own terms.

[nelly83]

They don’t have hobbies or friends or social circles. All single 30 yr olds do is go to work, go home, never go to night clubs , no interest in partying or socializing , Boring life. they’d be lucky if they have more than 2 close friends at that point. Lack of social circle and lack of partying and going out is the reason why so many 30 yr olds don’t have the same dating action as they once did in their 20s

[KrakenAttackin]

At 24, how many 30+ year old men could you possibly know?

[nelly83]

I know quite a few men in their 30s and it’s really none of your business how I have come to know them. Most single folks in their 30s do not have the social life or dating options as they once had in their 20s. Everyone is married off , social circles have come to be almost non existent , they don’t have the energy to party or go to clubs anymore. It’s really funny how men like to overplay their options at 38. Men do not have options at that age unless you can still look hot like you’re 28-32. And as they hit their late 30s, even more of their peers will end up being married so their social circles will even be more limited. Every year that you aren’t married in your 30s, your chances of being single forever increases.

[nelly83]

By the time most men hit 35 , they are out their prime. 34 is when they noticeably start aging with white hairs and slight wrinkles. Some men even grow bald by the time they hit 31. Aging is no joke.

There are very few men who can still look great by 35. 36 is when 95 percent of men exit their prime. by 38- 40, all of them look like shit

[KrakenAttackin]

Also, adults quickly outgrow the "night club, party" scene, which is a scene for 20 something kids.

[KrakenAttackin]

@nelly83 Just stop. You can't possibly compare aging of men to women. Women's physical appearance falls off a cliff after age 30. You will be there before you know it and your mirror will show you first-hand how the "wall" and the "cliff" work. You can scream "Patriarchy", "Misogyny", even "racist"!! But guess what, your mirror won't care.

[nelly83]

What makes you think men’s looks don’t fall off the cliff? Men look best 26-32. Some men go bald by 31. Baldness is what makes 30 something year old men look unattractive. And it’s extremely common for guys to go bald or balding at that age. I actually ended an friends with benefits with a 35 yr old cuz his signs of aging was just progressing too fast like crazy. He looks like he’s losing his hair , his skin is uneven and old , one of his eyes is drooping lower than the other , his balls are sagging by the month.

I just wasn’t attracted to him anymore so I ended it. And I attend lots of social events , I met all sorts of people at various ages. Just happens that I am not attracted to most guys in their 30s. Out of every ten 30 something yr old guys , only 2.5 would be still hot.
There is a reason why I don’t date guys over 32.
It’s quite arrogant how men overglorify women’s aging but don’t realize they are getting ugly as they age too. Nobody likes baldness or white hairs or wrinkles.

[nelly83]

It’s quire funny how you can’t take it when I tell you that I don’t find you attractive but yer you are quick to criticize older women.

[KrakenAttackin]

"I wasn't attracted to him anymore so I ended it". What you did was liberate this poor fellow. You are as shallow as the shallow end of the kitty pool. Keep on with you illusions and don't bother to listen to me. Father time will teach you all the lessons you need to know.

[nelly83]

Shallowness is part of human nature. Same reason why you shit on older women. The older you get , the more you get shitted on. So don’t be surprised if I tell you that I’m not attracted to sone guy your age. And if you have extra baggage such as kids , even a 35 yr old woman wouldn’t want you.

[KrakenAttackin]

You are missing the point. My life's focus is not about attracting awful women like you! Life is not supposed to be one giant fuck-fest, which is something women your age seem to not understand. And while you are having your decade long fuck-fest, the best parts of life are passing you by.

When you are 40+ without kids or a husband all you will have is a shitty job and memories of the guys you banged in your 20's. This is your destiny. Enjoy.

[nelly83]

I’m not the one who is 40 and still single. I’m not the one who is 40 and still begging for a woman’s acceptance. So don’t tell me that I will only end up like you: single , 40 years old, talking about how all women are dreadful.

There was nothing dreadful about my comment. It is only you who doesn’t want to admit that men age too and lose their attractiveness too. All of you assholes think you look amazing until you’re 60. I don’t see why you would act all victim when you found no problem criticizing older women.

You are living proof certain people cannot Mature with age and cannot take what you like to dish out.

[mattmanyah2]

Women have a biological clock (menopause) that limits their ability to have kids and increases their need to mate earlier... Men can have kids in their 90s can't... It's 2 different realities... Men over 50 are more likely to have a baby with complications though.

[VIVANT]

Not everyone even wants kids and yeah women are having kids in their 40s

[nelly83]

The older a man gets , the higher chance of kids being born fucked up. A 60 yr old can have kids but no smart woman would want them

[mattmanyah2]

I agree with both of you I'm just pointing out there's major difference... And of course not all people want kids but it is your bodies reasoning for attraction... Men don't like women boobs and wide hips because they look nice... Their body puts chemicals into the brain because she's more likely to have a healthy baby and be around (and healthy) to take care of it... It's the same reason the mass of women like in shape guys with broad shoulders if we were dropped into the 16th century they would be more able to find food and defend the shelter... And I am by no means saying this is the end all be all of attractions but attraction is partially biologically driven.

[nelly83]

Well young women are not attracted to white hairs or baldness because it’s a sign that a man is not strong virile and masculine anymore. We girls like six pack abs , muscular men, no wrinkles or signs of aging , a full head of hair.

[nelly83]

Talk about me preferring an old man to defend me than a young man

[nelly83]

I will be the one defending the old man.

[mattmanyah2]

Lol your putting some words into my mouth I agree with you... The reason why some women date way older men is for the financial security the food has already been brought in...

[nelly83]

There’s no reason why a young woman would want to date a man she doesn’t want to have sex with or have no Romantic attraction to , unless she is absolutely broke and needs money.

If that’s the type of girl that you want then go for it

[mattmanyah2]

I ain't saying that is my want. I am saying that a lot of sexual selection is driven by nature and that nature is unfairly nicer to men which leads woman to date older men as a common occurrence... I date women older and younger than me it's not the end all be all.

[nelly83]

I think you are just desperate to believe that all of us younger women are attracted to old men. We are not. I just ended an friends with benefits with a guy that’s 34 because his signs of aging was just getting out of control. 33/34 is the age where the baldness , weight gain, wrinkes come out. I think it is massively overblown by the patriarchal media that men look better into their 30s. 80 percent of men look like crap by the time they hit 34/35. Men look best 25-32

[mattmanyah2]

I don't believe that all women are desperate I actively try to help people not to be desperate because I don't want to see them used. I think you are making some unfair judgements of me.

[nelly83]

Well it’s just my observations. Men in their mid 30s really aren’t as hot as they like to claim

[coffeewithcream]

Why do you worry about it?
Why not just stay in your lane?

[mattmanyah2]

@coffeewithcream It's the right thing to do. I'd try to stop a robbery I've stopped women from being beat. I help people that are broke down on the side of the road. My end career goal is to run an orphanage. My house has been home to the homeless... Jesus cammands christians to love their neighbors as their selves I don't do it perfectly I don't always try but is something I aim for... Why not do these things because my dad's been robbed my aunt's been beat I've been broke down I lost a daughter my uncle was homeless... If more people act like Christ and stop acting like Christians this world might be a place all people want to live in I know what it's like to hold a gun to your head and debate pulling the trigger. My list of good things in life was short one was a person gave me a piece of gum and it's something that pops in my head a lot I don't know people's mental state I know being used can push people over the threshold. Sorry for the life story. Lol

[TonyBologna25]

At 38 years old, a mans dating value is pretty high. A woman’s dating value tends to decrease after 30. My dad and all of the older men in my life said that they got the most attention from women after 30. I believe it. My boss is 38 and just married a hot 26 year old. I think they become more picky because they have more options and have more money than guys who got married and had kids at a young age.

[nelly83]

That’s not true for the most part. Most couples have less than a 10 yr age difference. Many guys go bald and develop white hairs by 35. I’m 24 and the oldest I’ll date is 32. Any older , he’s out of his prime

[TonyBologna25]

I strongly disagree lol. Just based on my social circle and all of the people I know, it’s the opposite. Even my girlfriend is attracted to men in their mid to late thirties. This is also backed by a lot of reputable studies. White hairs and balding isn’t always bad news. If the guy works out, maintains a muscular physique, and shaves his head- he will look even more masculine. Even the older I get, the more attention from women I get. You’re entitled to your opinion, but it’s just that. Literally everyone I know and socialize list sees and experiences the opposite of what you’re saying.

[nelly83]

Most couples are less than 10 years apart. Just remember that

[nelly83]

There will definitely be some women who like old men but not most of them. Most girls around my age date guys under 30. This is most of us

[TonyBologna25]

Sure, but just because they don’t have an intimate relationship, doesn’t mean there still can’t be attraction. Also- all of the men in my family married much younger women.

[TonyBologna25]

I disagree. High value women tend to go after men who are older based on what I’ve seen.

[nelly83]

There is a difference between older men and old men. I like old men, age 26-31/32. I don’t like 38 yr olds or 48 yr olds. I like my men to still look strong , virile, healthy, and masculine. No wrinkles, no saggy wrinkly balls, no baldness , no fat older guys.

[nelly83]

I like older men, but OLD MEN. Old men definitely are not as strong healthy and virile as younger men.

[TonyBologna25]

It really depends because I know a lot of men in their late 30s that have more muscle maturity and lower bodyfat than fairy ass 20 year olds lol. A 20 year old still has a boyish body. A man who’s been lifting for 15-20 years has a mans body that exudes testosterone and masculinity. Most men in their 30s have the money and discipline to take care of their health. Some wrinkles showcase rugged wisdom in men. Also, all balls are wrinkly 😂

[TonyBologna25]

oh, and I saw your comment on being bald is a sign of weaker genetics and not being as strong. It’s actually quite the opposite. Men of high testosterone tend to bald the most. Men of higher counts of estrodial and lower counts of testosterone are typically the ones with full heads of hair in their 40s and 50s

[nelly83]

Guys look their best 25-32. Any older than that is baldness, or balding , gaining weight, wrinkles starting to appear, balls dropping lower and lower

Nobody cares about how much money you have If I don’t want to have sex with you.

[TonyBologna25]

Male models and actors statistically peak after they hit 30. So you can have your opinion, but most of the world disagrees with you.

[nelly83]

Well in most of the world , couples are less than 10 years apart. On average most couples are 2-5 years apart. Very few 26 yr olds married to 40 yr old men. Sorry

[TonyBologna25]

www.google.com/.../...-better-with-age-3828862.php

[TonyBologna25]

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[nelly83]

There are many biased false links on the internet who just say what they wanna say to make themselves feel better. If older men got all the women, then why are most couples 2- 5 years apart? Why aren’t most couples 10-20 years apart?

[nelly83]

Biologically women like guys who can defend and protect her and her off spring. This is why women like strong guys with abs , young , virile , strong and fast.

This is why we are not attracted to old men. Baldness weight gain wrinkles do not signify you are healthy and strong

[TonyBologna25]

almost all of the majority of studies claim the same thing that I just linked. Only few from less than reputable sources claim otherwise. Dating requires emotional connection, and someone who’s older would have a hard time relating to someone who’s younger. Just a different phase of life. That doesn’t mean that they’re less desirable or attractive though. Not all attraction aspires towards a long term monogamous relationship

[nelly83]

Yea well just because you’re a balding 40 yr old, face full of wrinkles, or have a head full white hair attracted to a young 24 yr old woman, it doesn’t mean she wants you.

Young women are biologically not designed to be attracted to white hairs or weak older men.

[TonyBologna25]

Men are better providers when they’re older which women are very attracted to. Better provider equates to a stronger and quality partner. Also, most men I work with that are in their mid to late thirties are not all fat lol. Most of my neighbors are in better shape than most 20 year olds and look great.

[nelly83]

Nobody cares about how much money you have if i don’t want to have sex with you. No woman will marry a guy she has absolutely no physical attraction to unless she’s broke.

Most of us women nowadays can make our own money. We all have careers and there are more college educated women than men. We don’t need to marry an ugly old man for money.

And a gold digger really isn’t an ideal wife for most guys. Unless you like gold diggers

[TonyBologna25]

But women actually do care about being able to provide a stable and nice life for her and the future kids. Having a lot of money showcases desirable and attractive traits on a biological level. Women might be educated, but they don't earn more than men. Men are biologically more suited to work longer hours to provide. Women can, but they are not naturally inclined to the way men are. This has been proven. You also seem to operate in extremes, and I don't think that's a good foundation to base your reality off of. Just because a man is established, and in his late thirties, doesn't mean he's just an old fat guy who's balding and unattractive lol. That's not the case.

[coffeewithcream]

An opinionated 24-year-old pissed off at picky 38-year-old men.
You sound like a prize.

[nelly83]

Hmmm but most men in their mid 30s ARE balding , developing wrinkles , gaining weight. Very few guys in their mid to late 30s look good. VERY FEW

But the thing is women like guys that look good and also have money. No woman is interested in a 60 yr old man even if he does have money.
A mans age and looks matters. I don’t want to have fucked kids with some 60 ancient sperm either.

[nelly83]

@coffeewithcream umm not really. Some old men on here simply can’t accept that I don’t like white hairs or baldness or fat guys , or wrinkles

[nelly83]

I certainly would feel bad for a woman who is so broke that she needs to marry some guy that she doesn’t want to have sex with just so that she can survive.

[nelly83]

But I wouldn’t need to marry for money because I have money. Why not marry a guy who I feel comfortable looking at, doesn’t have ugly saggy balls and someone who is young , strong , fast , better sperm?

[coffeewithcream]

That's not what your question is.
Your question is bitchy and gossipy.
You're a woman to be avoided.
A 38-year-old woman is twice my age, and I'll bet there are a lot of them who are a far better woman than you'd ever be.

[nelly83]

@coffeewithcream it’s not creepy at all. You just don’t like it cus you are offended I am not attracted to old grandpas

[TonyBologna25]

Most of my colleagues are in this age bracket and aren’t fat or unattractive. Sure, some are, but most look pretty good. Even looking back at pictures of my dad or my grandpa- they looked pretty good around this age. I don’t know what kind of reality you’re living in, but thirties is pretty prime which me and everyone I’ve ever known would agree upon. You act is if 33 is just when you become hideous lol. It’s not the case.

[TonyBologna25]

I don’t think we’re personally offended. I think we just disagree with you because we see something entirely different in our personal lives.

[nelly83]

I think you just like to make yourself believe in lies that men look better as they approach 40.

I’ve never met a man who took pride in getting old. Many of them love it when people tell them that they look younger than their age, I’ve known many dudes in their 30s. Many don’t even want to state their age by the time they hit their mid 30s.

[TonyBologna25]

See, I’m actually taking any bias out of this equation. My girlfriend is actually 31 years old, and I’m younger. But logically speaking, we are outliers. I have no desire to convince myself of a delusion because I feel bad about aging. My life is becoming better and better with age thus far, so I got no room for complaints.

Every man that’s ever been in my life has taken pride in their wisdom. My dad who’s now 60 is getting a little scared, but he’s never once tried to pride himself on youth lol. He’s a mans man and he has a lot of life experience and prides himself on it. I’ve never seen a man pride himself on innocence and boyish traits. Not once in my life. I don’t meet these men who are 32 fat and ugly and over the hill. Every 30-35 year old I know is enjoying life and absolutely killing it.

I also don’t understand how we have such different experiences. I live in CA in a upper middle class neighborhood. I got a big family, and big social circle. Work as a part time cop, and full time engineer. So I think it’s safe to say that I’m well rounded experiencing all different walks of life.

I’m curious to know what demographic and life you live. I mean, there is a huge disparity in what’s being claimed. Are you living in a blue or red state? What’s your socioeconomic bracket? What age range of people do you associate with? Your claims are outrageous to me. I just don’t meet the people you’re describing.

[TonyBologna25]

I actually brought this up with a coworker today. My coworker is a man who’s 47 and used to be a huge stud fellow bodybuilder. First generation from El Salvador. The man is still ripped as hell today. I asked him when he thinks a mans prime is. He said 28-40. That’s when he had the most women hitting on him. Even asked my dad and he said the same thing. Going to ask my uncle, and I’m pretty sure he’ll reply the same.

Also- from personal experience, the older I get, the more and more women give me attention. Mostly younger women either at the gym or DMing me on insta. I’m turning 27 in July. But even in my bodybuilding prime in my early twenties, I never got this kind of attention. Well- I got sexual attention from average women, but now I’m getting attention from higher quality women. Women who I never even thought would talk to me are now making themselves so available and it’s mind blowing to me.

I’m not sharing this to brag, but rather explain my experience. My life is becoming better and better with age. I’ve honestly never been so happy and satisfied with my life until recently. I’m not dreading age, and I’m actually excited for the future because I’ll get to accomplish more things I want to. My goals are massive and most would find them ridiculous, but that shit keeps me fired up on the daily man. I’m excited to see where I’m at in 10 years. I’m planning to be 10x more successful than I am right now. You’re barking up the wrong tree by claiming I’m afraid to age.

My dad told me growing up that once you hit your thirties, the cards are going to reverse and you’ll notice the men start to get more options than women around this time. He was totally right from what I’ve seen so far.

[nelly83]

I don't know Why you’re constantly obsessed about outliers. 80 percent of men look like crap by the time they hit 35. Of course there are exceptions such as people who have the genes to still look hot at 34. I’ve seen them but they do not represent most guys in general.
I have seen some guys look their best at 22-28.
I’ve seen some women who look hotter at 45 than at 25. There are guys who look better at 60 than their entire lives.
But these are outliers. It’s uncommon and really isn’t worth the obsession.

Let’s talk about the general population instead

[nelly83]

A lot about how you age is based on your genes. But generally from my experience, noticeable signs aging tends to starts showing at 33 and onwards. people age rapidly as every year passes by in 30s. By the time theyre 35, they typically already look like crap. By 36, a man is obviously out of his prime. I’ve seen some guys who can still manage to look good at 38 but it’s quite uncommon.

For some folks , I can already see their hair thinning at age of 31.

[TonyBologna25]

I don’t see this at all though. At 35, most men look great. All of my neighbors are in this age bracket and they look better than most 20 year olds. I think if you like shit by as early as 35, you’re an outlier

[TonyBologna25]

Literally everyone I know would completely disagree with you. This is why I’m curious to know the kind of people you associate with

[nelly83]

of course you would disagree, you’re afraid of the truth. Tons of men get bald as they hit their mid 30s, it’s a very common thing. Unless going half bald is something you’re attracted to, then you won’t be more attractive.

There are plenty of older women who think that there are plenty of attractive women in their 30s. Same reason why you would say balding men look better.

[nelly83]

I come from NYC, the largest city in the world with one of the biggest populations.

[TonyBologna25]

Me telling you that I’m not rendering bias, and explaining to you my life circumstances- that is going to be completely ignored so that you can validate your point? Am I just lying? I mean, if you’re not even going to render the possibility of me telling the truth in a scenario in this discussion, then that tells me my words are meaningless to you no matter what they are, and there’s not point in my furthermore continue if this conversation.

[nelly83]

Yea well , I live in NYC , the biggest City in the world , along with the biggest, most diverse populations. I meet people on a constant basis where at bars, social events and I’ve online dated for years here. Just pointing out my honest observations. I know what I’m seeing and I have no reason to lie.

[Lynx122]

Dating options don't decrease for guys 40 is like peak SMV for guys. It only decreases at like 50 - 60.

[nelly83]

Total lies

[Lynx122]

It's facts

[nelly83]

It’s only true if baldness weight gain and wrinkles are sexy to you

[Mikeilito]

I’ll let you in on something, you can look like your not a day past 20 till you hit 50 and then like a light it turns on you start to see the aging process and nothing will stop it for women it’s worse sagging falling lines dark spots and circles, hair etc you can’t stop and if you were a sun worshipper its 10 fold, you can slow it down to a certain point then all those anti aging creams throw em out, by 60 something your a drooping, drooling mess, nothing will stop it then but death and at that age it’s any day now? Unless your rich and can start the expensive saves early your doomed! And that’s not to mention the cognitive damage and memory loss making you an idiot ! Welcome to old age and for some of you it’s going to be here sooner than you think! Make the most out of the tine you got it will be your biggest regret If you don’t!

[nelly83]

@Mikeilito women actually have more chance of staying young because women use a ton of skin care products and spf under the sun which is the main cause of skin aging. Men never wear spf or care for their skin. Many women nowadays look way younger than their age

[Mikeilito]

You have good points old data unless their Cher or J:lo etc,50 the age it will drop or begin to speed Up, and me. Do care about my skin I grew up in 70s and 80s a surfer. As much as we could get to it being 10 likes from Huntington Beah I was in sun all the time I had sisters wound tell me bout skin , even then they knew but no idea the full damage I’m 52and took care of always and one day 50 and noticed sagging as much as I tried could slow it but damage done sun spots are the hardest but sagging catching up and all I’ve read woman once start, it hits them hard, Legs, butt, chest neck they lack muscle of men, once aging starts better have. Money for lifts but the shit drs outweigh and you hear and see horror story’s and another expensive thing trey use is fillers that hide lines by reducing. Shadows I call smoke and mirrors and the price of so called aging creams waste of money will give sine help during the day for few hrs that’s it! If you spend time tanning buy good indoor tanning cream avoid sun and tanning beds they do as much damage! Just don’t buy into the stars Crap their career is there face and body and trust me once out of shower without Thier majuc they will show thier age look at the ones that are no longer in spotlight Darren Hannah etc I saw her yesterday my god I didn’t know it was her! 5 yes ago she still looked like a model it’s all smoke and mirrors an illusion if you want, save creams for better things like jerking off!!! 😂

[Mikeilito]

Well lost by that tine realize what a woman is and the majority of that is evil look who did the serpent corrupt in the garden? Right Eve ! So men lie me learned what Adam didn’t that day in the garden the only thing a woman is good for is being? I won’t say to many

[nelly83]

@Mikeilito I like older guys too but I don’t like old guys. I like guys 26-32 not 36-45

[nelly83]

@Mikeilito what makes you think just I want an older guy, it means I like 50 yr old men? no grandpas please. No bald fat uncles either

[Mikeilito]

83 who said you did? For the record Have been a bodybuilder all my life slows down sone but I can guarentee you find 10 boys you know I’ll beat 8 on agility and possibly all 10 on a shirt off? Not bad for a Gramps you I doubt could keep up with me in a fuck off!!! Lol easy joking!😘

[slatyb]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=benuh8ETkwo

[In_Trance]

dating options don't decrease as you get older; they stay the same. the big number that you perceive is available when you're young is an illusion. You realize that most of those aren't possibilities at all.

[nelly83]

Well when 85 percent of your social circle is married then yes you have less daring options. You also get uglier as you age

[In_Trance]

Also not true. Women, generally speaking prefer older men. Men like older women; hence the term "cougar".
Your social circle is typically not where you find dating options. You need to look outside.

[nelly83]

Umm.. I like older men too. 26-32. But I just don’t like old men like 40-65.

[In_Trance]

Yup, that's fine. But that's just you. Lots of women would argue that guys in that age range are immature and don't have their shit together. So, you're not entirely wrong…. but you can't generalize.

[nelly83]

I can generalize that 90 percent of women like older men but not OLD men

[nelly83]

I don’t need to date a 38 yr old guy in order to find a man that’s not immature. Plenty of mature 27-32 yr olds

[In_Trance]

You do what works for you, just like everyone else. Old is a perception. A floating target.

[nelly83]

Of course it’s a perception. A 24 yr old would think a 38 yr old is old. A 35 yr old wouldn’t think 38 is old

[genericname85]

well them being picky is the reason they are older and unmarried xD

[ItalianGuy2021]

Not in my case I don't look my age at all I can get younger girls the problem is a lot of them got kids too which I do not want.

[NewZion]

@italianguy2021 Amen to that brother! No wife, happy life!