Women are far far more picky then men. Men have to work for it so they are more then willing to compromise then women are who don't have to put in the same effort to get a date. The reason why men are single is because women have over inflated ego's, insane standards, and crappier character. What do women offer men other then sex? Nothing. Women take pride in not having any womanly "virtue" as it were, they cannot cook and have no intention of doing so even if they could, they don't clean and again have no intention of doing so, they are not nurturing or caring.
Meanwhile men still have to be strong, still have to be stoic, still have to do the phsyical labor, still have to be the breadwinner (even in our society that has forced males out of the educational system and thus out of higher paying jobs while catering to women so that now women out earn men yet still demand that men make more then them in order to date them)
In short women have demanded men be traditional but women have to be nothing at all, they can do what they want. Men are willing to compromise but women, who are catered to don't have to because they can get money from their jobs (which again, our system has pushed men aside and lifted women up instead of creating an equal playing field) or the government, they don't need a man for that (they just need him working to maintain everything but they can get what he can offer indirectly now). They don't need a man for protection, society and men do that for them. And when the woman's ego needs stroking (and for some women this is near constant), she can go to social media and post a picture and sad and desperate men will fight each other just for the chance to kiss her ass.
This is why we have men who are single in this day and age, because either they cannot find a woman of value, and/or because women have such over inflated ego's and sense of self worth (for various reasons) that they think they can always do better (even when they can't).
i go for personality, not body type and for me a personality will define who i end up with not the physical appearances...
for example... i prefer blonde's and redhead's, blue, green or grey eyes even hazel... size of body or boobs to me isn't important
but over the years i have ended up with brunettes, black haired women with eye colour that isn't of my preferences
even height has been different to my preferences
I prefer shorter than myself, I'm 5'9" and prefer women either 5'5" or under preferably shorter... but i've dated women 5'6", 5'8", 5'9" and even 5'10/11
however i am single not cos i go after body type or appearance but because of choice... I refuse to sleep around, won't get into any friends with benefits or ONS etc, and only go for committed relationships, and while i have made this known over the years, many i've spoken to over recent years have ignored and tried to scam me, or claim they want the same but later found out to not... or they claim they are local to me, when in reality are outside the country, wanting financial support or a free ticket into the country so until i meet someone worth my time and commitment i will remain single
Agree- for some, not all men. I highly doubt that's the case for all men. But for some? Absolutely!
I can attest that I've had guys tell me they loved my personality, intelligence, how sweet and nice I was, but I wasn't their "type." I didn't have the look they wanted, or I wasn't attractive enough to them to date- befriend, but not date or be sexually attracted to.
They liked me but not how I looked.
... and I respect that. It sucks but that's life.
You can't be with someone if there's no attraction there, so I can't judge people for feeling that way. However, I don't want to hear them whine and moan about how hard it is to find a date either.
Yeah. Many men who have single for a long time (if not forever) sound like children when they list reasons justifying their status. Reasons that usually include ‘I haven’t settled for anyone because I only date women who are x years younger than me, are beautiful, fit (but not too muscular). ambitious, dress in a certain manner, are well employed (but free on my days off and willing to start a family with me ASAP) and whom I click well with.
So they’re basically only open to dating or considering a woman who exists only in their mind. 🤣
Lol yeah, defs. Whenever these sorts of discussions come up with my boyfriend or friends in rl, the consensus often seems to be that should such guys actually meet a woman who checks all their requirements, what makes them think she’d ‘settle’ for him? 🤣
Sure, I am willing to admit that I'm single now because of my expectations (more or less), and also that I'm probably not worth it, for a woman that meets those expectations. I've tried lowering my standards, and that doesn't work, so here I am. All I can do is work on myself and try for what I want. If I fail, so be it.
I will add that people often hold higher expectations when they're single, but in reality, checking 70-80% of the boxes is good enough.
@TremorJay Yea, fair enough. It’s important to remember that a lot of the positive traits people in relationships have and singletons seek a partner with are often not there from the get go. People will usually work on improving things like communication, patience, or anything sexual after they’re actually in a relationship as remaining together will be the incentive.
I like your attitude about just shooting your shots and if you fail, at least you actually tried. 😎
@kaylaS91 I'm a guy who has really high expectations set for girls, unrealistic expectations. Those are excuses just to keep me single, but deep down inside I'm a player. I could go around breaking hearts and...😜. But I choose not to because people nowadays think of relationship as love, but love is something divine, and from my research relationship is not love in its divine form, it's just a cage, a trap. So, Yeah I'm single because I only date women who have boobs matched to perfection with equal measurements on both, not even a slight offset by the size of a hair.
" my point exactly yet these guys are completely grey, beer bellies, insecure, have no money, nor education". And it's lists of expectations like this that's why women are single lol If you have high expectations you better be bringing something to the table.
The "men" you described are not genuinely interested in finding a relationship, at all. The statement in question is not a "reason" they are single, it's merely a press release to justify the TRUE reason - and that is FEAR. When you are afraid of being in a relationship, the EASIEST thing to do is set forward of list of expectations that can never be met and call it your "standards". Then you can maintain that you are " really interested" in finding the right "one", but she just isn't out there.
So you've identified one method of avoidance, but the "reason", is FEAR, and the fear is based on insecurity. That's why men remain single... fears, primarily fear of failure, fear of inadequacy.
Wait, are you fucking with us? I feel like your fucking with us. Based upon multiple studies not only are women more shallow then men but substantially so. Women have height, look, and wealth requirements. According to a study done by OK Cupid they found that according to women 80% of men were "below average" which is mathmatically not even possible. They also found that women while placing a high value on status and wealth also put a high value on looks something men do not do. You also don't hear about men rejecting women for being to short or tall unlike women who always have this as a requirement. Studies also show that men actually don't care about a womans job or economic standing so your even wrong on that (but it does apply to women, women demand these things of men). So again, are you being sarcastic because everything you said is literally the polar opposite of reality.
Sure I could. But you wouldn't read them so why bother? You've already made up your mind so why should I waste my time giving you study after study if your just going to blow it off? It wouldn't be all that smart on my part now would it (and again, we both know your going to ignore them because every one like you does so why pretend to care)?
Bullshit, thats utter bullshit. You think this is the first time I've been through this? This happens literally every fucking day, multiple times a day, for what eight years now. No, your not interested in what it says, your interested in your views being right and anything that goes against it will be dismissed.
I am not wasting my time finding every source so feel free to claim they are all bias, or wrong, or what ever bullshit you feel you need to tell yourself to justify your beliefs.
Ok umm... one article (not a study but I read it anyway) just days that women place more importance on men’s attractiveness than they might initially think they would. The next day’s women place value on a mans level of education. The only study you actually posted says that ‘One explanation for the declines in marriage is the putative shortage of economically attractive partners for unmarried women to marry. ‘- so nothing about attractiveness in the slightest.
Except for the ones that openly stated attractiveness as you literally mentioned. Ten links, and you dismissed all of them. Hey, what did I say you were going to do again? I know I said something about this? Oh, yeah this is what I said you were going to do, "you wouldn't read them so why bother? You've already made up your mind so why should I waste my time giving you study after study if your just going to blow it off? It wouldn't be all that smart on my part now would it (and again, we both know your going to ignore them because every one like you does so why pretend to care)?"
Was I correct in that statement? Yes, yes I was because your ego is so incredibly fragile you cannot possibly own up to being wrong. Nope, to weak, to cowardly to ever fucking change your opinion. Like I said, utterly pointless. Multiple studies, pointing out how height matters, how attractiveness matters, how education and wealth matters, how women stated 80% of men are below average in attractiveness, a mathmatically impossibility, the graphs and charts detaling all of this etc. and you are so utterly pathetic you can't even admit you were wrong. Maybe thats why no one wants you, not because their picky but because your just mentally weak? Just a guess though. I fucking despise weakness.
Posting 10 links does not equate to 10 studies. Reddit/yourtango/lipstickalley/theguardian or fucking reddit is like claiming mytakes on on GaG is as reputable as an actual study carried out by accredited PhDs.
I read the links you scrounged together but they are not fucking studies. You're making yourself look even worse.
Yeah, except they linked to studies, also linked the other studies. I told you out right from the very begining you were going to pull this shit. I'm not wasting my fucking time sorting through all of that bullshit, spending an hour or more to find the exact studies, to weed out any possible sources of "bias" that you would claim, because it doesn't fucking matter. I stated you were going to ignore it and you did. Your fragile ego couldn't handle the idea that you were wrong, you just wanted to wallow in self pity and hate on men and tell yourself how fucking better you were because vagina so no amount of data was ever going to change your mind. They show the stats, they state the sources, your just a dip shit who is to weak to own up to being wrong. Female fragility at its finest.
Then I think it goes both ways, men and women. Overall I think people like what they like and aren't so willing to date outside that preferences, not saying it's wrong, it's just how it is with some
Yes. Their values are very shallow and immature. For example, I asked the guy I was seeing recently what is he looking for in the woman that he would be in a relationship with, and these were his answers: "To vibe well with his friends", "To have confident body movements" and "That sex is mind blowing". I vibed well with his friends, I assume I had confident body movements (whatever that means) and then when we had sex - he ghosted me. Haha. I guess it wasn't mind blowing for him, so nothing else mattered.
Honestly, I'm single because I don't know what the hell love is. Even the ones who married are getting divorced, what happened to the love between them? Was it even love between them? If anyone could explain to me what real love is, I'd appreciate it.
There are several factors in what makes or breaks a relationship... And there are men who put to much importance on how a woman looks...
But I feel like most people care more about how a person acts and it's less about trying to find a high standard in appearance and more about not falling below the minimum...
An example being me... I don't care how she looks as long as her personality is a good match for me... As long as I don't find her specificly unatractive.
I mean if you include that.. then every one has a line that they won't cross as far as unatractive... And in that regards yes... On some level every one is looking to match personality and body... But I don't think it's as big a reason for men being single as you think
Strongly disagree. There's a multitude of reasons why men are single and each one might be different and it's best not to generalize. Most men aren't the perverted monsters that girls perceive them as such as in that screenshot. Clearly she's been hurt before or doesn't view guys in a positive way.
this kind of works both ways but. looks are typically what get someone to talk to you in the beginning. however your personality and attitude. are what keep someone around long term.
so while many guys might want to date or sleep with a girl viewed as a 9 or 10. many don't often stay with them long term. because their most often to crazy to deal with.
which is why some guys end up dating a girl viewed as a 5, 6, 7 or 8. while she might not have the same looks. her personality and attitude make up for it. because they are more enjoyable to him. for long term relationships also looks tend to fade over time.
But the men I've rejected are more because they can't get their own act or life together. They're having enough trouble being adults on their own - being in an adult relationship would be too hard for them, and too troublesome for me to bother with them.
There are 7 billion people on the planet. The chances of there not being a single female out there who a man is both physically attracted to and has emotional comparability with is profoundly unlikely. Same for women. Some are more selective than others, myself included, but it doesn't mean we won't find what we're looking for. I guess the picture you posted is mostly true for more selective people, but there is also the fact that some just don't want to be in a relationship for personal reasons.
I have made the same observation as the girl in the post, however, it isn't the limiting factor or "bottleneck", if you will, as to why I'm single at the moment. Up until now, it was because I was not satisfied with my appearance, and right now, it's just quarantine. However, once quarantine is over and I start dating, the low supply of women who have both good bodies and good personalities, might very well become the new limiting factor. But it's not impossible... just rare.
I agree with it partially This could also be turned around towards women and it wouldn't be any less true The problem with these kind of questions is making it THE REASON why something is or isn't... Men won't settle down until they WANT to settle down, in American society that seems to be being pushed farther out. Women friendzone men that would make good husbands because he's not EVERYTHING she wants a man to be. etc. etc.
It sounds logical, since people usually only get to know those of the opposite sex that they are attracted to physically in the first place. It's hard to get to know someone on such a deep level for their personality. Sure, you make some friends here and there, but also being friends and taking it to another level is pretty hard, and people fear losing their friendship
That's a good question and something to really look at I like your choice of words but for me I look at the person within first but when looking at everything we do look for characters to but for me I'm single because I am addicted to work and I need to really stop or slow down doing side jobs and maybe your right because I have meant girls on line and gave been naughty and the characters,,, they play maybe that's what I'm looking for
I wouldn’t categorize all men into that statement so I would disagree. I’m sure there are men out there that prefer women of a certain build but I think it’s unfair to say all men are this way. If a man thinks your body isn’t to his liking and that’s his into reasoning for not being with you, then he’s not worth your time. A man who truly wants you won’t care about your size/shape.
This isn't completely untrue, as most women who are very good looking have horrible personalities and generally only like evil men.
But also a lot of men nowadays don't want to get married because women nowadays aren't loyal. Women nowadays just change their man when the get bored or when they need an upgrade. Even married women with children often divorce their men ( 70% of divorces are initiated by women, in the usa for example).
Men realize that they also lose out once a divorce happens, while women get a good cut usually. So there isn't much benefit in marriage. This also extends to a lesser extend to all relationships.
Everyone has there perspective... In in today's era, rate of intolerance, inconsideration, ego and unnecessary importance to superficial appearance, psychological issues and pathetically higher expectations has increased... so even many couples out there aren't happy with their partners... They don't leave their partners just because of the fear of being alone... So coming back to the question, these are some of the few problems for guys/gals being alone...
Could be true for some. Overall tho I don't think men's standards are that high. Whenever any dating site reveals stats to the public it is almost always revealed that men swipe/message at a much higher rate than women do. OK cupid released once that women rated 80% of men as ugly while men rated women according to a bell curve.
So I just don't buy the claim that men's standards are higher than women's. At the very least we are equally as shallow.
I think its more so because they get more pussy when single and rather not commit to just one until they burn out and decide to settle down... not all men of course
Well a lot of women I've met whether they're good looking or ugly have bad attitudes. So... No I don't think that's true.
Besides just because you have "good character" that's no excuse to let your body go to hell. She can be the nicest person in the world, but if she's extremely overweight to the point I can't even wrap my arms around her. Then yeah she's definitely not the one for me.
And don't get me started with women. I think they're way more shallow than men.
What does this even mean? This doesn't make any sense.
We are NOT attracted to fat women. Women, think of fat women as short, ugly and fat guys, who are poor, wear glasses and have an unkempt neckbeard and wears a my little pony shirt. Yeah, this is how we see fat women. REPULSIVE!!! Even if he's a listener and open up to you and cares about you. The eyes are in for a big psychological pain.
Maybe some guys are like that. Can't really say the same for everyone. Personally for me, it's that I find very few people intellectually attractive and that's the only thing I'm usually worried about.
Some of ther times I've been rejected fror some normal and very silly reasons.
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No more than women. I don't know why women b*tch. All they need is not look like a complete sloth. You'd think guys were asking for the world. Women's expectations are much higher. As a guy not only do you have to be attractive and in shape. But you have to have the preferred genes she's looking for, that could be muscles, hair, jawline, broad shoulders, all this plus you need an education to HER liking an income to her liking. Oh, and just know you will be judged by every failed relationship SHE'S ever had. And this is just a sample, i could keep going about their demands. Let's face it "love" very seldom enters the picture with women.
I would always want to be single just because women become vicious when they leave taking everything leaving you without a penny, or even clothes on your back, and then still demand to have the option of cutting your throat in the middle of thousands of onlookers in public while yelling how shitty the gy is in his last dying moment. No thanks single is better because then my life is still mine and she can leave bitter and hurt with only what she brought in.
most men want us women to do everything for them while the men become - fat , lazy , ignorant , smelly , toothless , abusive and mean to women ! however , we women will not do it so these men will have to their dirty work themselves ! thanks
I hate to disagree with you uptowngirl i would say that 30 percent of men fall into that category another 30 percent feel that they can't get a girl and the majority are simply whores especially if they are what is known as"a lady's man" that type will take home a different woman every night of the year that's my brother by the way
Most men, while having standards, will still date women that aren't models. I myself have dated women with amazing personalities that weren't exactly lookers, but they don't need to be. I'd rather have a smart and nice woman with a bit of a belly on em over a really hot but stupid one.
People that lump men/women into a single reason or categorize them a specific way when it comes to relationships have no clue about the opposite sex. All it says to me is that they're damaged and got hurt by the opposite sex, so now they trying to figure out why it hasn't worked out for them instead of looking in the mirror.
I think the"main" reason is that women tend to date up the dominance heirarchy, or moreso, they're opposed to dating down.
I don't blame them, but that's the way it is for men. What you have is a Pareto distribution where (very roughly) the bottom 40% of men are simply left behind.
Men and women both have many things to offer, in terms of a relationship. However, there are the BIG things that are of the highest priority. For men it's typically providing safety and security, and of course you can provide more of that if you're wealthy. For women, it's typically the ability to bear and mother a child. Most women can do that.
So, and I hope this is making sense, because it's not meant to be sexist, but women's value in a relationship is mostly inherent and given, while a man's value in a relationship has to be earned. It's really not surprising that men are single, and there's really nothing we can do as a society. Men have to do their best as individuals and that's it.
Women that say this sort of thing just like to blame men for having preferences and forget about the fact that there are women out there that are physically unappealing and also have terrible personalities.
Its not much different than the incels that go "IF ONLY WOMEN WOULD STOP GOING AFTER CHAD AND JUST GO AFTER NICE MEN LIKE ME!!!"
Can't relate, I've only been single when I had enough of needless drama and such. Most man are single because they're too scared to walk up to girls to start a conversation. People do have unreasonable expectations but this is the reason why most girls are single, guys will settle for less than they wish they had and still love it will all of their heart.
Lol i like chicks with phat asses but see thats not something im asking or expecting for cause 9/10 a girl with a phat ass is a big hoe i gotta hit n quit cause she get to much attention for it and i been attracted to skinny chicks but i always find them to be liking and dating weirdos so i just smash them all
I'm single. The only body type I'm after is not an obese or anorexic person. Other than that, as long as she is an amazing person, I would dater, no matter what body type she has.
Strongly disagree. Some men don't want relationships. Others may not know hwo to appoarach women correctly or with confidence. This post generalizes men. Which is not true
i disagree. "good characters" are rare. ugly chicks are as unlikely to have a fitting character. that's what the struggle is about. that's like the classical male "the good guys are in your friendzone" argument. it's nonsense.
technology make people are just become lazier and spoiled compared on past , many guys prefer easy way like wanking to porn than put effort to approach girls
Men vary just as women do... Not everyone is marriage material. Not everyone are mature and respectful enough to be honest and avoid leading people on. There are lying women and lying men.
Men always wanted a supermodel when looks aren't important what is inside is
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No. Honestly it's because I, as a man look at the population of women and I'm not interested at all. I'm not being mean but women today don't make a man think "Hey I should get married and have kids".
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Nope,, women have to meet a bunch of standards including body type for me. And it's hard go find a women of my race who checks of those boxes. Also I like being single and j dont wanna settle down right now maybe in 12- years
I think this is quite often true but not always. Inner and outer beauty are totally independent, and some would say each is rare enough on its own. What are the odds of finding them together?
I've seen lots of guys with all different shapes of women. I'm not saying we aren't visual and want porn star bodies for gfs. But espeically younger gens intellect and stuff in common is important.
No, probably because many just don't want to deal with the increasing amount of shit men have to deal with and they don't want to potentially fall with a crazy that could ruin their life.
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