Do you guys think dating for men in nowadays is unfair & not equal?

[myNameIsProfile]

Notice nowadays when dating a lot of these girls want the world and giving very little back in return (if not anything at all).

Starting to wonder if there's any point of dating seriously anymore?

Yes, it's not fair for guys

No, it's equal and fair for guys

[MCheetah]

Literally only women and Chads would say dating is "equal and fair for guys" as women get flooded with attention from dozens of simps daily to the point they're not even grateful for it.

All you need to do is watch this video and see how even mediocre-looking women think of the attention they get from men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlokoFmleU

[Anonymous]

I never got this impression of women wanting the world while giving nothing in return. Where did you get this idea from?

What I think it's a bit "unfair" is that men are expected to give the first move, at the same time where sexual harassment and catcalls happen on a daily basis, and women sometimes complain being approached. In a situation like this, shy guys like me are screwed, it's like walking on eggshels.

Aside from that, I didn't notice anything, and I might even be creating irrational fears inside my head.

[aliali8]

dating is only unfair for guys who have nothing to offer. For guys that are well educated, decent looking, have stable jobs , dating should be easy. Many women nowadays have their own careers where we can support our own kids which is why we don't have to settle for a man. We can uphold our standards rather than to date a guy who is not good enough.

Work on yourself or your personality, then love will come to you naturally.

[myNameIsProfile]

When you say for guys that have nothing to offer I agree with you?

I probably should've change the title to serious dating (like leading to marriage or kids or something, not casual lol), my bad 😅🤣

I don't have problems getting girls or dating it's just I'm noticing a lot of these girls I'm seeing of late and also what I see in social media don't have good qualities I admire in a women as well as having weird toxic warped mindsets about men.

Also (since that you're saying it) I'm noticing a lot of these women with that "I don't need a man" type attitude... why? Unless you mean it interms of stability I'm guessing?

I agree that women don't need men to help them do things like money and stuff, but in a serious relationships (not hookups) that mindset is very selfish and negative to have, especially if me and the girl had a kid together, we're supposed to be a unit, one.

That is basically the problem I'm seeing with these proticular girls nowadays were they love to take more then they'll gives back in a relationship, that's why I created this question about if it's really fair for guys, seems one-sided nowadays to me, and wanted to get other peoples perspective to see how others feel about it (especially the woman's side), it's pretty interesting getting other people's opinions about topics like this, helps you understand how different people from around the world think.🙂

A man and women doesn't need each other, but when kids come into the picture, I think both are needed to give that kid a stable life in my opinion.

[aliali8]

My point is, if you can't get a girl , then that means you need to work on yourself. Whether if its income, education, or personality or character. Because no matter how much men like to complain, we live in a very modern world today where women do not need men to survive. If a woman is not attracted to you, then she is just not attracted to you. Because if she is attracted to you, she would show interest in you. You CAN'T FORCE her to like you.

And for women who say "I don't need a man", why are you still talking to her if she says she doesn't want a man? ARE YOU TRYING TO FORCE HER TO GET A MAN?

Why don't you look at yourself first instead of constantly criticizing women?

[natured]

What do you consider in GIVING BACK? Because honestly if you expect a girl to give you sexual pleasures just because you bought her a pizza then it's stupid... but if you do everything and she doesn't give a damn about you then she does not deserve you. IT ALL DEPENDS WHAT !!!

[myNameIsProfile]

Nah that is silly, we don't need to mac after I take her Chuck E cheese. 🍕

Lol I mean in a serious kind of relationship (like leading to marriage) not casual dating, like if you do your role as a man is considered to do in society (be the main provider, making sure the kids and the woman are good like having clothes to wear (for the kids), money for food in the house as well as the house and any other thing a guy is expected to do)

But the woman doesn't hold her end of the bargain (nurturing the kids and teaching them, cooking as well as cleaning the house, looking after her man when he comes back from work aka being plesent, not giving him a hard time and so on).

If I'm doing all my roles and would look bad in society if I don't fulfil every one of them, how comes it's OK for a women to half-ass her side and not be looked at as bad. Don't think it's fair to be honest.

Also I get that it's not the 60s anymore and maybe in a situation if she has to work herself and deal with stress at work which will then make her miserable at home and take it out on you, or be to tired to do her share.

But then what is the point of a serious relationships for a guy if he's doing all his role's along with some of her role's and get little back, might as well just casual date, hope you understand what I mean. Not coming at this topic like I'm complaining, just one of those things were you just think, I wonder if there's any point going through it.

[natured]

Honestly if this si something you are going through personally, then i suggest you to talk to her. Because if she is the one staying home doing NOTHING then i think it's fair what you are pretending... But you have to understand that now the "ROLES" in a relationship / marriage should not be falling into the OLD SCHOOL category. BOTH MEN AND WOMEN WORK, BOTH WORK HARD, both can provide both can make sure the kids get educated, BOTH CAN CLEAN THE HOUSE. It's very normal to share the duties and roles, i'm not saying that you are wrong I JUST DON'T agree with the "MAIN PROVIDER" is the "MAN" thing because it's NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE, unless some women choose that path, which I have no problem with.

[myNameIsProfile]

She won't be staying in the home doing nothing, she'll be at home looking after her kids and her house whilst I work and cover everything financially... what so bad about that, please explain?

Remember, once house work is done and kids is at school she can do whatever a normal person can do lol.

Never said that's what I wanted, just using it as an example to show that men are expected to be "old school" whilst women can do whatever they want and not be looked down on by society.

Would you say that it's OK for a man to make the same amount as the woman in the relationship?

Would you as a woman be OK with marrying a guy with the same earnings as you?

If you are, then wouldn't it be fair that every financial expense that you and your husband has that's in relation to the house, bills, etc... be 50/50.

By the way I don't mind having a 50/50 relationship were I help with doing 50% of the cleaning and house work, but that means it's only fair that she is 50/50 with the bills and money as well, no double standards were I help you with the cooking cleaning and paying a large majority of the bills whilst you just do half of the cleaning cooking etc...

Just to let you know (just incase you don't) I'm not coming at this question with bitterness or aggression (it's more so curiosity on how people view relationships and a chance to understand different females & males perspectives on this as well as giving a prospective maybe some people didn't know), it's just a interesting topic with people online, no need to take it personally it's just a post on the Internet lol 😅

Thanks for your take on this question tho 😃👍(no sarcasm).

[natured]

I think you want to 100% calculate everything, i don't think it should be calculated on HOW MUCH HE OR SHE DOES, as long as they Both do. I just cannot agree with being a stay at home mom and asking my husband for money in order to go buy myself PADS FOR MY PERIODS... it's utterly stupid according to me given the opportunities that both genders have now. Some days there is a 50/50, some days a 20/80, some days a 0/100, but as long as the couple loves each other and understands each other and respects each other why even bother CALCULATING EVERYTHING?
You seriously expect your working woman even if she gains as much as you to pay bills equaly? Or vice versa... I don't think that these things should be measured, but enjoyed, valuated and cherrished.

[aliali8]

@mynameisProfile

In our modern era, women Work jobs and nurture their children. Because reality is, most faimlies in america CANNOT AFFORD TO SURVIVE ON ONE INCOME. Furthermore, an increasing number of girls are encouraged to go to school / college and pursue careers. If a woman makes very good money as a mother, there is a very high chance she will not drop her job just to stay home and take care of the kids

And here's another secret that will burst your bubble:

A mom is only busy at home when the children are very young. Once the children hits school age, she will have nothing to do most of the day. She will be bored sitting at home watching tv most of the time while her kids are away at school

[bamesjond0069]

Its fair. We get to bang all the girls and never do pesky thing like commit or spend much money on them. And they get ugly and undesirable in their 30s and we can pull girls till we can't get it up anymore. Seems like we have the better deal by a long shot.

[NoLookingAtSoleil]

It doesn't seem fair to anyone - but there is no certainty it ever was.
Women worry a tremendous amount, and expect infidelity/are very sensitive to a man even paying attention to another woman. They prefer you grab them and stick with them from the get go.
Men are kind of forced to split attention between at least work and private life - how to keep a woman glued to you and get work done, I am trying to figure out.

[OutWestBandit]

lol - American culture is so jacked.
women can put a single line on an app and get dozens of messages within minutes.
ladies choice - literally with just a picture.

guys have to hussle to get attention.

[DCooper]

It's fair as long as you avoid putting more into someone than she's worth. Yeah, that usually means putting nothing in and getting nothing out. Better than wasting time and energy on a bad bet though.

[iseekpinetrees]

It all depends on who you date and the types of people they are. If you date a shitty person you get a shitty partner.

[Synikal]

I can't choose either. Either you don't want to work to build yourself up to a man or want it handed to you. Have standards as they obviously will and work on the man you yourself want to be. Attract the vibe. Don't claim it.

[myNameIsProfile]

Did you read the description by any chance?

I agree with you 💯%

I'm talking about in prospective of an individual that has built and worked on myself both physically, mentally as well as career wise, understand if you want something it can't just be handed to you.

But when I date nowadays, there's a lot of these type of girls that are expecting a lot of things with out putting in the work. Do you get what I'm saying?

I'm trying to say if you do everything right in your role as a man for the relationship and she barely (or not even) pushes her wait in the relationship as a woman then what's the point of committing to that? You think that's fair?

Obviously you can move on and find another girl but if you start slowly seeing more and more girls with this kind of mindset behaving like this that's when I get concerned for the future.

[Dchrls78104]

More like playing Russian roulette hoping to win one of the cars being driven at a demolition derby (if there's still even such a thing).

[DCooper]

Haha ! If you "win", you get to rent that puniti that's been wrecked from the front, the back, and both sides, overheated, and left there dripping fluids from both ends. And then she isn't even yours; it's just your turn. So don't be wasting your time trying to fix that shit up :p

[Anonymous]

Either get in shape
Get money

Or wait til all the women from 18-29 are used up and ran through and are baby mamas and sleep with them.


Or find the 1 good girl in a pool or whores

[MCheetah]

"Pool"? More like the f*cking Pacific Ocean. 😂

[Opinion Owner]

@MCheetah u a fool man lol

[DevylasArsaukas76]

people really need to be taught about there being no guarantees these days, millennials grew up thinking they can have whatever they want, newflash life doesn't always cater to your desires

[Anonymous]

Kind of yeah. But it helps if you have qualities women in general want

[hellacray]

When was it ever fair?

[JesseJayNeak]

It has always been unfair